**Official YANKEES 2009 Thread** (1 Viewer)

[Righetti]

remember when joba used to throw hard? Anyway this is pathetic

 

[Mr. Pickles]

remember when joba used to throw hard? Anyway this is pathetic

"A+"

 

[flysack]

I turn off the TV in disgust after the first inning.

I come back, Joba has thrown 12 strikeouts.

What happened out there? Did his mom stop by with a pick-me-up?

 

[Finless]

2009Red Sox 4Yankees 0

Several decades of being also-rans make these little victories more important to you guys. I get it.

In our lifetime outside of the late 90's run, what have the Yankees done? You have to reach all the way back to the 70s. Lately they spend double what the closest team spends and they finish in 2nd or 3rd....in the division. Keep coasting on championships from 50-60 years ago.

Outside of the past 5 years, what have the Red Sox EVER done?You do know that this team has won 10 division titles since 1996, right? Of course you did. Like someone else has said, please bring something to the discussion in the future. Your act is beyond tiresome.

Act? The Yankees haven't done anything in 9 years. The Yankees and Sox matched up pretty evenly in the 80's I think the Sox might have actually done better. The 90's the Yankees owned and the oughts the Sox own. So there's 3 decades for you. What's the act

 

[Raider Nation]

Girardi needs to go. This team is absolutely sleepwalking.

Maybe we'll finish above the Orioles.

 

[wilked]

Sloba with the 10-pump fist pump to secure the loss...

http://nysuperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/...a-fist-pump.jpg

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

This post game presser with Girardi is just painful, he sounds like he's getting grilled by senate subcommitte and he is guilty!

 

[cobalt_27]

Girardi needs to go. This team is absolutely sleepwalking.Maybe we'll finish above the Orioles.

I'm not sure when people are going to figure out this group of Yankees is simply not a very good team. They have no heart and marginal talent across the board. We'll get our fraud back in a week or two, and it will still be a pile of poo.Girardi's not pushing the right buttons, but let's not act like this team could be managed much better. He's only got the players dealt to him. The outfield and bullpen are dreadful.

 

[blackjack23]

Joba was filthy last night after the first inning. I really dont know what happened in the first. That was the most dominant performance by a Yankee in the last few years and we still lost the game. The bullpen is dreadful. Ive said it before and Ill keep saying it. They arent gonna win #### with that bullpen. The lineup will be fine once ARod, Posada, and Nady come back and Tex starts hitting. The rotation will be fine once CC and AJ pitch like they are capable. Im really not worried about that. But how many games is this dreadful bullpen gonna blow and how many insurance runs are they gonna give up in close games. This is sickening. Now I know what it mustve felt like for Mets fans last year. Its hard for me to blame Cashman for the bullpen though cuz they were very good last year and most people thought it was a strength of the team. I really do think you can build a bullpen by throwing darts at a dartboard sometimes.

 

[blackjack23]

Girardi needs to go. This team is absolutely sleepwalking.Maybe we'll finish above the Orioles.

Good news is TB started slow as well and I dont see any other team really competing for the WC this year.

 

[blackjack23]

remember when joba used to throw hard? Anyway this is pathetic

remember when joba used to throw hard? Anyway this is pathetic

"A+"

Yeah he was throwing 89 mph fastballs in the first inning and then all of a sudden in the rest of the game he was throwing 95 mph fastballs with a wicked changeup and slider. He had all 4 pitches working after the 1st and thats why I LMFAO at people who wanna put him in the bullpen. He has a 2.85 ERA as a starter in his career (5th best among ML pitchers since June 08).

 

[Alias]

Joba looked strong last night

 

[Green and Gold]

I understand the desire to see a silver lining in a loss, but be careful about too much Joba excitement going forward. He still has pitch count problems, so he'll be relying on the bullpen to not blow any leads he might get. He was painting very well with his breaking stuff last night after the first inning, but nibbling is part of the reason he rarely sees the 7th inning.

I feel pretty sad that people think Joba's start was the most dominant performance from a Yankees pitcher in the last couple years. It wasn't even considered a quality start. It's a real insult to some great games pitched by Wang, Petite, and even Mussina once in awhile in the last few years. Do you really value 12 strikeouts in 5.2 innings of work more dominant than 8 or 9 innings of shutout ball with 5 or 6 strikeouts? Or is it really just the future that you're excited about, when Joba can put it call together, rather than this game?

 

[blackjack23]

I understand the desire to see a silver lining in a loss, but be careful about too much Joba excitement going forward. He still has pitch count problems, so he'll be relying on the bullpen to not blow any leads he might get. He was painting very well with his breaking stuff last night after the first inning, but nibbling is part of the reason he rarely sees the 7th inning.I feel pretty sad that people think Joba's start was the most dominant performance from a Yankees pitcher in the last couple years. It wasn't even considered a quality start. It's a real insult to some great games pitched by Wang, Petite, and even Mussina once in awhile in the last few years. Do you really value 12 strikeouts in 5.2 innings of work more dominant than 8 or 9 innings of shutout ball with 5 or 6 strikeouts? Or is it really just the future that you're excited about, when Joba can put it call together, rather than this game?

8 outs in a row were due to strikeouts (and 12 out of the last 14 outs). He had all 4 of his pitches working (4 Ks on fastballs, 3 on changeups, 3 on sliders, 2 on curves). Thats one of the more dominant games by any pitcher this season (minus Greinke).

 

[Alias]

I was at a bar drinking heavily and would not have been able to put as much analysis into Joba's performance last night he still looked real good to me, but here is a post from SOSH detailing a lot of the called strikes:

Any time a guy gets 9 called K's in a game, you have to wonder whether the ump had something to do with it.The strange thing is that for the most part, Mike Dimuro did a great job. He missed just 4-6 pitches with Sox pitchers on the mound, evenly divided (2 Big Gift, 1 Small Gift, 1 Small Squeeze, 2 Big Squeeze, hereafter 2 - 1 - 1 - 2), maybe the lowest total I can ever remember in games I've looked at.The Yankees other than Joba were 2 - 1 - 3- 1, also a very good and balanced job. Melancon not only was never squeezed, he got one big gift. The only glitch came after he crapped the bed, when Dimuro squeezed Robertson once big and twice small with Bailey up and the bases loaded and two outs in the 9th. No doubt that infuriated all the Yankee fans whose memories went back less than three innings.Because Joba had a totally different strike zone. It started in the second when Jason Varitek was called out on three pitches, not one of which was close to being a strike. Bay in the 3rd and Drew in the 4th were also called out on pitches that weren't strikes, Drew should have been walked on a 3-1 pitch in the 6th (and was legitimately called out on the next pitch), and the 0-1 pitch to Ortiz in the 3rd was also a gift. In all, Joba had a 5 - 2 - 0 - 0 breakdown in a game where everyone else combined for 4 -2 - 4- 3.It might be understandable if Joba had started painting and the strike zone gradually expanded as Dimuro started giving him the benefit of the doubt. But that's not what happened.The way I'd sum up Joba's performance was that he had 12 K's, 7 of them unassisted.

 

[blackjack23]

The ump had a very wide strikezone last night. I cannot disagree there.

 

[Darth Cheney]

I was at a bar drinking heavily and would not have been able to put as much analysis into Joba's performance last night he still looked real good to me, but here is a post from SOSH detailing a lot of the called strikes:

Any time a guy gets 9 called K's in a game, you have to wonder whether the ump had something to do with it.The strange thing is that for the most part, Mike Dimuro did a great job. He missed just 4-6 pitches with Sox pitchers on the mound, evenly divided (2 Big Gift, 1 Small Gift, 1 Small Squeeze, 2 Big Squeeze, hereafter 2 - 1 - 1 - 2), maybe the lowest total I can ever remember in games I've looked at.The Yankees other than Joba were 2 - 1 - 3- 1, also a very good and balanced job. Melancon not only was never squeezed, he got one big gift. The only glitch came after he crapped the bed, when Dimuro squeezed Robertson once big and twice small with Bailey up and the bases loaded and two outs in the 9th. No doubt that infuriated all the Yankee fans whose memories went back less than three innings.Because Joba had a totally different strike zone. It started in the second when Jason Varitek was called out on three pitches, not one of which was close to being a strike. Bay in the 3rd and Drew in the 4th were also called out on pitches that weren't strikes, Drew should have been walked on a 3-1 pitch in the 6th (and was legitimately called out on the next pitch), and the 0-1 pitch to Ortiz in the 3rd was also a gift. In all, Joba had a 5 - 2 - 0 - 0 breakdown in a game where everyone else combined for 4 -2 - 4- 3.It might be understandable if Joba had started painting and the strike zone gradually expanded as Dimuro started giving him the benefit of the doubt. But that's not what happened.The way I'd sum up Joba's performance was that he had 12 K's, 7 of them unassisted.

I think that SOSH is the best website to go to for unbiased Yankee/RedSox information.

 

[Green and Gold]

I understand the desire to see a silver lining in a loss, but be careful about too much Joba excitement going forward. He still has pitch count problems, so he'll be relying on the bullpen to not blow any leads he might get. He was painting very well with his breaking stuff last night after the first inning, but nibbling is part of the reason he rarely sees the 7th inning.I feel pretty sad that people think Joba's start was the most dominant performance from a Yankees pitcher in the last couple years. It wasn't even considered a quality start. It's a real insult to some great games pitched by Wang, Petite, and even Mussina once in awhile in the last few years. Do you really value 12 strikeouts in 5.2 innings of work more dominant than 8 or 9 innings of shutout ball with 5 or 6 strikeouts? Or is it really just the future that you're excited about, when Joba can put it call together, rather than this game?

8 outs in a row were due to strikeouts (and 12 out of the last 14 outs). He had all 4 of his pitches working (4 Ks on fastballs, 3 on changeups, 3 on sliders, 2 on curves). Thats one of the more dominant games by any pitcher this season (minus Greinke).

I guess we'll just have to disagree there. I just don't feel 4.2 good (great) innings = a dominant game. Maybe a dominant half game. He certainly was painting the corners very well, and some of those breaking balls were just filthy. He was having great success throwing a ton of breaking balls, then the fastball painted on a corner for the K. But no matter what way you slice it, he still gave up 4 runs and only lasted 5.2 innings.

 

[Sammy3469]

I understand the desire to see a silver lining in a loss, but be careful about too much Joba excitement going forward. He still has pitch count problems, so he'll be relying on the bullpen to not blow any leads he might get. He was painting very well with his breaking stuff last night after the first inning, but nibbling is part of the reason he rarely sees the 7th inning.I feel pretty sad that people think Joba's start was the most dominant performance from a Yankees pitcher in the last couple years. It wasn't even considered a quality start. It's a real insult to some great games pitched by Wang, Petite, and even Mussina once in awhile in the last few years. Do you really value 12 strikeouts in 5.2 innings of work more dominant than 8 or 9 innings of shutout ball with 5 or 6 strikeouts? Or is it really just the future that you're excited about, when Joba can put it call together, rather than this game?

8 outs in a row were due to strikeouts (and 12 out of the last 14 outs). He had all 4 of his pitches working (4 Ks on fastballs, 3 on changeups, 3 on sliders, 2 on curves). Thats one of the more dominant games by any pitcher this season (minus Greinke).

I guess we'll just have to disagree there. I just don't feel 4.2 good (great) innings = a dominant game. Maybe a dominant half game. He certainly was painting the corners very well, and some of those breaking balls were just filthy. He was having great success throwing a ton of breaking balls, then the fastball painted on a corner for the K. But no matter what way you slice it, he still gave up 4 runs and only lasted 5.2 innings.

None of that really matters...the only numbers that really did were the 96mph he was throwing in the 5th and 6th...that's the first time he's been up there since his injury last year.

 

[Bogart]

You boys enjoying Big Tex?

Don't worry, he will start hitting when it no longer matters.

 

[blackjack23]

You boys enjoying Big Tex? Don't worry, he will start hitting when it no longer matters.

He had a .467 BA and OPS over 1 for the Angels last year in the postseason. Did that not matter?

 

[Green and Gold]

I understand the desire to see a silver lining in a loss, but be careful about too much Joba excitement going forward. He still has pitch count problems, so he'll be relying on the bullpen to not blow any leads he might get. He was painting very well with his breaking stuff last night after the first inning, but nibbling is part of the reason he rarely sees the 7th inning.I feel pretty sad that people think Joba's start was the most dominant performance from a Yankees pitcher in the last couple years. It wasn't even considered a quality start. It's a real insult to some great games pitched by Wang, Petite, and even Mussina once in awhile in the last few years. Do you really value 12 strikeouts in 5.2 innings of work more dominant than 8 or 9 innings of shutout ball with 5 or 6 strikeouts? Or is it really just the future that you're excited about, when Joba can put it call together, rather than this game?

8 outs in a row were due to strikeouts (and 12 out of the last 14 outs). He had all 4 of his pitches working (4 Ks on fastballs, 3 on changeups, 3 on sliders, 2 on curves). Thats one of the more dominant games by any pitcher this season (minus Greinke).

I guess we'll just have to disagree there. I just don't feel 4.2 good (great) innings = a dominant game. Maybe a dominant half game. He certainly was painting the corners very well, and some of those breaking balls were just filthy. He was having great success throwing a ton of breaking balls, then the fastball painted on a corner for the K. But no matter what way you slice it, he still gave up 4 runs and only lasted 5.2 innings.

None of that really matters...the only numbers that really did were the 96mph he was throwing in the 5th and 6th...that's the first time he's been up there since his injury last year.

We were talking about whether Joba had the most dominant pitching performance, on May 5th, of any Yankee pitching performance in the last few years. This is where I disagree.Outside of his current lack of ability to last more than 5 and change innings, I think fans have to be excited after seeing evidence of his fastball hitting 95+ with good control, as well as all his breaking stuff.

 

[blackjack23]

I understand the desire to see a silver lining in a loss, but be careful about too much Joba excitement going forward. He still has pitch count problems, so he'll be relying on the bullpen to not blow any leads he might get. He was painting very well with his breaking stuff last night after the first inning, but nibbling is part of the reason he rarely sees the 7th inning.I feel pretty sad that people think Joba's start was the most dominant performance from a Yankees pitcher in the last couple years. It wasn't even considered a quality start. It's a real insult to some great games pitched by Wang, Petite, and even Mussina once in awhile in the last few years. Do you really value 12 strikeouts in 5.2 innings of work more dominant than 8 or 9 innings of shutout ball with 5 or 6 strikeouts? Or is it really just the future that you're excited about, when Joba can put it call together, rather than this game?

8 outs in a row were due to strikeouts (and 12 out of the last 14 outs). He had all 4 of his pitches working (4 Ks on fastballs, 3 on changeups, 3 on sliders, 2 on curves). Thats one of the more dominant games by any pitcher this season (minus Greinke).

I guess we'll just have to disagree there. I just don't feel 4.2 good (great) innings = a dominant game. Maybe a dominant half game. He certainly was painting the corners very well, and some of those breaking balls were just filthy. He was having great success throwing a ton of breaking balls, then the fastball painted on a corner for the K. But no matter what way you slice it, he still gave up 4 runs and only lasted 5.2 innings.

None of that really matters...the only numbers that really did were the 96mph he was throwing in the 5th and 6th...that's the first time he's been up there since his injury last year.

We were talking about whether Joba had the most dominant pitching performance, on May 5th, of any Yankee pitching performance in the last few years. This is where I disagree.Outside of his current lack of ability to last more than 5 and change innings, I think fans have to be excited after seeing evidence of his fastball hitting 95+ with good control, as well as all his breaking stuff.

He pitched 7 inning the last game. You also gotta remember hes on an innings limit this year.

 

[Oof!]

You boys enjoying Big Tex? Don't worry, he will start hitting when it no longer matters.

He had a .467 BA and OPS over 1 for the Angels last year in the postseason. Did that not matter?

What on earth makes you think this team can make the playoffs?

 

[Oof!]

Teixeira up. Bases juiced. Two outs. Down by 3....

 

[Raider Nation]

You boys enjoying Big Tex? Don't worry, he will start hitting when it no longer matters.

 

[Oof!]

Oof! Look at that. A clutch hit.

 

[Raider Nation]

Just bring up the closers from A, AA and AAA. It couldn't get much worse at this point.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with.

You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

 

[Raider Nation]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

 

[cobalt_27]

I wonder where a guy like shady is these days...the one who always defends everything the Yankees do, regardless of ####### stupid it is.

This team is a joke.

 

[cobalt_27]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

Yankee Stadium was a dump, and they were filled to capacity last year. What's your point?You can't defend how idiotic the Yankees are these days. They build this gorgeous new stadium, and what do they do? Ensure that they put out a crap team on the field and charge outrageous prices to suck all the excitement out of the early part of the season before fans actually got to see the crap they put out there.

 

[Oof!]

Jesus Christ

 

[Raider Nation]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with.

You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

Yankee Stadium was a dump, and they were filled to capacity last year. What's your point?

How dare you. Do you also make fun of the Pope and Frank Sinatra?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

The Trop cost a billion less bucks.

 

[cobalt_27]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with.

You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

Yankee Stadium was a dump, and they were filled to capacity last year. What's your point?

How dare you. Do you also make fun of the Pope and Frank Sinatra?

Yes.

 

[Sammy3469]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

The Trop cost a billion less bucks.

More like 1.25billion, but what's a couple of hundred million among friends.

 

[blackjack23]

I wonder where a guy like shady is these days...the one who always defends everything the Yankees do, regardless of ####### stupid it is.This team is a joke.

Ive been here all along momo. Why dont you try to keep up?

 

[blackjack23]

You boys enjoying Big Tex? Don't worry, he will start hitting when it no longer matters.

He had a .467 BA and OPS over 1 for the Angels last year in the postseason. Did that not matter?

What on earth makes you think this team can make the playoffs?

Im a Yankee fan and Im not gonna give up in May

 

[blackjack23]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

It really is depressing what this organization has done to ruin this franchise

 

[blackjack23]

OK its sickening how the Yankees keep finding ways to lose. Yesterday they get shut down by Sonnanstine until Teix gets a huge bases clearing 2B off Howell to tie the game. Mariano dominates in the 9th and for some strange reason the moron of a manager we have doesnt bring Mo back out for the 10th. HE HASNT PITCHED IN 6 DAYS! Anyway, Coke gives up a HR to Pena on a pretty decent pitch and Tex strands a runner on 3rd with 1 out in th bottom of the 10th on a 2-0 fastball right down the middle. Not to mention that Pena was safe on that infield grounder in the 9th and it wouldve been bases loaded with 1 out (not that it matters cuz we cant get runners in from 3rd anyway). This teams just keeps finding ways to lose close games. Thats what happens when your bullpen sucks and you cant hit in the clutch.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I was fortunate enough to go to my first game at the new Yankee Stadium last night

A few stadium comments: It is big, clean and extremely well done. You have the feel of being in the old stadium, but that it had been overhauled. I would say similar to how you would feel if they actually did do a major overhaul on the old stadium. Keeping the dimensions down the line the same with the same fence size and color makes you feel at “home.” I can also see where the fence line does not curve, but rather it goes straight across in right center. I believe this makes the right center field fence shorter than in the past. I will check on this as some people have said this, but others have said they used the same dimensions. My eye says there are differences and specifically in the right center power alley. Finally, the big screen is absolutely phenomenal. As a closet videophile I was blown away at the enormous size and crystal clear picture; I have never seen anything like it. The overhangs being set back instead of more on top of the field would appear to be less intimidating to the opposition and also keep the fans voices farther away. Of course, adding in all the empty seats down low and the Yanks will have less of a home field advantage, specifically, the people who can afford the now 50% off seats at $1250 are probably not the most rabid fans.

Wednesday’s game. Girardi did it again with bullpen. He might have pulled Joba one batter too soon, but I understand the big picture and I was OK with that. But, when Veras is pitching well and you are in the 7th inning in a 1 run game we need to ride our guys when they are doing well. Veras gets 2 outs and more important was looking good doing so and he gets pulled for Coke who gets 2 outs and then was pulled. Think about this, one run ball game and you will need at least 6 more outs and there is a good possibility of extra innings, now what do you do? I said this before and I will say it again, I believe we have very good arms in the pen, but they are very inconsistent. Therefore, riding the hot hand is more important than matching up. Keep in mind that I am a very big supporter of matchups as players clearly have huge swings when you look at platooning advantages, but with this team, riding the hot hand is more important. The matchup game works better with consistent pitchers, or specialists. It was a very poor job by Girardi to pull 2 relievers who were throwing well with so much time left in a close game.

Thursday’s game – Man, we are just missing…we can’t catch the break or get the little things done to win. Texiera gets one of the biggest hits of the year clearing the bases with 2 outs to tie the game, but we can’t get him in. We fail to hit with runners in scoring position time and time again. Texiera has a great chance to get Damon in from 3rd with 1 out and a 2-0 count and he pops up to shallow right. That was extremely frustrating! Tex needs to come through there as they were in trouble. 2-0 count, infield in and our number 3 hitter should be an 80% chance of getting that runner in from 3rd. It wasn’t mean to be.

I need to point out the tough break we had when Pena hit the ball to short and beat the throw to first base. That was a huge bad call against us and most likely would have been a win for us.

Jeter and Swisher have been struggling

Melky and Matsui have been doing well

Molina has made weaker throws the last few games, I hope he is OK.

Our pitchers still need to be more aggressive. Burnett had 80 pitches thrown after about 4 innings yesterday. THROW STRIKES!

At least Boston got beat and it was by Pavano and we now know that the Red Sox titles were all tainted by the chetaing manny Ramirez

 

[Raider Nation]

Bad news: This team stinks.

Good news: We won't have to look at the "Girardi pose" ( ) in the dugout next year.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

That the new Yankee Stadium took away one of sport's true homefield advantages and there are no fans in the first 25 rows. I thought that was obvious to all literate people. Your point about the Trop is silly. I never once claimed it was a great stadium. Stop being stupid, thanks.

 

[Raider Nation]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

That the new Yankee Stadium took away one of sport's true homefield advantages and there are no fans in the first 25 rows. I thought that was obvious to all literate people.

Baseball has the smallest HFA in all of major sports. HTH.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with. You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

That the new Yankee Stadium took away one of sport's true homefield advantages and there are no fans in the first 25 rows. I thought that was obvious to all literate people.

Baseball has the smallest HFA in all of major sports. HTH.

So you don't think old Yankee Stadium was a pretty big advantage for the team? I imagine you would be one of the few saying that.

 

[Raider Nation]

Quite the homefield advantage you guys have there now. Nobody in the first 25 rows and only the ghosts of Phil Coke to deal with.

You would almost think Red Sox fans built that place or something.

The TROP is a dump and was empty until late September. Your point?

That the new Yankee Stadium took away one of sport's true homefield advantages and there are no fans in the first 25 rows. I thought that was obvious to all literate people.

Baseball has the smallest HFA in all of major sports. HTH.

So you don't think old Yankee Stadium was a pretty big advantage for the team? I imagine you would be one of the few saying that.

How big was their HFA from '89-'92? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees_seasonsWant to know which teams have a home field advantage? Good teams.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

Nice, a completely random 4-year (out of 80+) data sample.

 

[Raider Nation]

Nice, a completely random 4-year (out of 80+) data sample.

They had bad teams those years. Get it? Why didn't their immense HFA allow them to go 71-10 each of those years.But seriously Corky, they're losing games at home now strictly because the seats behind home plate are empty.

 

[Limp Ditka]

8 more jacks in Coors East tonight.