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How long can Scherzer keep winning with a 4.68 ERA? One of the most fortunate pitchers in the majors so far.
Actually with his .333 BABIP, I'd say he is one of the least fortunate pitchers in the majors.ERA is not a good indicator because a lot of what is included in that 4.68 number is three really bad starts. Bottom line with Scherzer and the same conversation we had a year ago is his location. If he has good location, he's borderline elite. If he doesn't, he stinks.
 
How long can Scherzer keep winning with a 4.68 ERA? One of the most fortunate pitchers in the majors so far.
Actually with his .333 BABIP, I'd say he is one of the least fortunate pitchers in the majors.ERA is not a good indicator because a lot of what is included in that 4.68 number is three really bad starts. Bottom line with Scherzer and the same conversation we had a year ago is his location. If he has good location, he's borderline elite. If he doesn't, he stinks.
:goodposting: Scherzer's first 10 starts: 63.1 IP, 21 ER, ERA a shade under 3.00. His last 3 starts have been awful. He was lights out before those last 3 starts.As of this post, he has pitched 7 innings tonight, allowed 1 run on 4 hits, 2 walks, 4 K's and a very efficient 101 pitches. Hopefully his bad starts are behind him.
 
How long can Scherzer keep winning with a 4.68 ERA? One of the most fortunate pitchers in the majors so far.
Actually with his .333 BABIP, I'd say he is one of the least fortunate pitchers in the majors.ERA is not a good indicator because a lot of what is included in that 4.68 number is three really bad starts. Bottom line with Scherzer and the same conversation we had a year ago is his location. If he has good location, he's borderline elite. If he doesn't, he stinks.
:goodposting: Scherzer's first 10 starts: 63.1 IP, 21 ER, ERA a shade under 3.00. His last 3 starts have been awful. He was lights out before those last 3 starts.As of this post, he has pitched 7 innings tonight, allowed 1 run on 4 hits, 2 walks, 4 K's and a very efficient 101 pitches. Hopefully his bad starts are behind him.
I hope so too but this is the Mariners.
 
How long can Scherzer keep winning with a 4.68 ERA? One of the most fortunate pitchers in the majors so far.
Actually with his .333 BABIP, I'd say he is one of the least fortunate pitchers in the majors.ERA is not a good indicator because a lot of what is included in that 4.68 number is three really bad starts. Bottom line with Scherzer and the same conversation we had a year ago is his location. If he has good location, he's borderline elite. If he doesn't, he stinks.
:goodposting: Scherzer's first 10 starts: 63.1 IP, 21 ER, ERA a shade under 3.00. His last 3 starts have been awful. He was lights out before those last 3 starts.As of this post, he has pitched 7 innings tonight, allowed 1 run on 4 hits, 2 walks, 4 K's and a very efficient 101 pitches. Hopefully his bad starts are behind him.
I hope so too but this is the Mariners.
True, but I feel much better based on how he looked with his command. When he walked a couple to lead off the third it seemed like more of the same, but he was sharp before and after that. Hopefully he made some tweaks that will give him confidence going into his next start.
 
How long can Scherzer keep winning with a 4.68 ERA? One of the most fortunate pitchers in the majors so far.
Actually with his .333 BABIP, I'd say he is one of the least fortunate pitchers in the majors.ERA is not a good indicator because a lot of what is included in that 4.68 number is three really bad starts. Bottom line with Scherzer and the same conversation we had a year ago is his location. If he has good location, he's borderline elite. If he doesn't, he stinks.
A great outing for him. :thumbup: Interesting stat, I wasn't that familiar with how BABIP was used. Perhaps the .333 BABIP is more reflective upon just how bad Detroit's Defense is.
In baseball statistics, Batting average on balls in play (abbreviated BABIP) is a statistic measuring the percentage of plate appearances ending with a batted ball in play (excluding home runs) for which the batter is credited with a hit [1]. BABIP is commonly used as a red flag in sabermetric analysis, as a consistently high or low BABIP is hard to maintain - much more so for pitchers than hitters. Therefore, BABIP can be used to spot fluky seasons by pitchers, as those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely high can often be expected to improve in the following season, and those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely low can often be expected to regress in the following season. A normal BABIP is around .300, though the baseline regression varies depending on the quality of the team's defense (e.g. a team with an exceptionally bad defense could be expected to yield a BABIP of .315) as well as the pitching tendencies of the pitcher (for instance, whether he is a groundball or flyball pitcher).[2][3] The equation for BABIP is:where H is hits, HR is home runs, AB is at bats, K is strikeouts, and SF is sacrifice flies.
 
How long can Scherzer keep winning with a 4.68 ERA? One of the most fortunate pitchers in the majors so far.
Actually with his .333 BABIP, I'd say he is one of the least fortunate pitchers in the majors.ERA is not a good indicator because a lot of what is included in that 4.68 number is three really bad starts. Bottom line with Scherzer and the same conversation we had a year ago is his location. If he has good location, he's borderline elite. If he doesn't, he stinks.
A great outing for him. :thumbup: Interesting stat, I wasn't that familiar with how BABIP was used. Perhaps the .333 BABIP is more reflective upon just how bad Detroit's Defense is.
In baseball statistics, Batting average on balls in play (abbreviated BABIP) is a statistic measuring the percentage of plate appearances ending with a batted ball in play (excluding home runs) for which the batter is credited with a hit [1]. BABIP is commonly used as a red flag in sabermetric analysis, as a consistently high or low BABIP is hard to maintain - much more so for pitchers than hitters. Therefore, BABIP can be used to spot fluky seasons by pitchers, as those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely high can often be expected to improve in the following season, and those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely low can often be expected to regress in the following season. A normal BABIP is around .300, though the baseline regression varies depending on the quality of the team's defense (e.g. a team with an exceptionally bad defense could be expected to yield a BABIP of .315) as well as the pitching tendencies of the pitcher (for instance, whether he is a groundball or flyball pitcher).[2][3] The equation for BABIP is:where H is hits, HR is home runs, AB is at bats, K is strikeouts, and SF is sacrifice flies.
Range (zone rating) is gonna play a role but not to the tune of .33 or more. Plus if you look at the rankings Verlander is near the top (.227), and Porcello and Penny are near the the middle (.284 and .277). I'm not a BABIP lover because luck is too big of a factor, but Scherzer's number is an outlier to the point that you realize it can't continue that way. When Scherzer is pitching well it's hard to get good swings on him so that .333 number is even more of an outlier over the course of the season.
 
Woman celebrates her 104th birthday at Tigers game

By Elisha Anderson, Detroit Free Press

Mary Johnson's 104th birthday celebration in May at Comerica Park was rained out just like the Tigers game she was supposed to attend. But a month later the sun shone at the ball park, the people closest to Johnson gathered and surprises abounded.

Among them: Tigers great Al Kaline, one of Johnson's favorite players, visited her and signed baseballs.

"I'm so glad to have met you, Mary Johnson. Happy birthday," she recalled him telling her Sunday.

Her wish to see Comerica Park finally came true. "It's beautiful. I couldn't say another word," she said from a suite, provided by the Tigers.

The day started when a limo picked her up in Royal Oak and took her to the game. "She was totally surprised — biggest smile on her face," said Steve Eick, a friend who has been watching out for Johnson for more than a decade.

Johnson clapped her hands and smiled when her name and a birthday greeting popped up on the scoreboard during the sixth inning. The Seattle Mariners won 7-3, but not even a Tigers loss could dampen the day.

"I've never had a celebration like this before in my life," Johnson said.

Johnson said she woke Sunday morning feeling good, but her blood pressure was high.

She attributed it to how excited she was about the day. She was off to watch the Tigers play at Comerica Park for the first time to celebrate her birthday, which was May 10.

The faithful Tigers fan knows all about the game. It's been part of her life since she was a child. She played baseball with the boys when she was 5 or 6, growing up in Kentucky.

A friend recalled how, later in life, Johnson couldn't be bothered during a game.

"She wouldn't answer her telephone if a Tigers game was on," former neighbor Audrey Jackson said.

Before the game started Sunday, Johnson had the chance to meet one of her favorite players: Al Kaline. She shared a story about the last time she saw a game in person. The year was 1936.

"She's awesome," Kaline said. "She's so sharp."

He spent 15 to 20 minutes with her and signed baseballs for Johnson and her friends. Johnson said she plans to put hers near her bed at the Sanctuary at Alexander in Royal Oak, where she keeps the baseball Willie Horton signed and gave her when he visited her in May.

"It's just amazing the shape she's in," said Tigers president and general manager Dave Dombrowski, after chatting with Johnson.

Before the day was over, Johnson made a live appearance on TV when she was interviewed by Fox Sports Detroit.

Johnson was surrounded by about 20 people, including the Eick family. Johnson worked for Steve Eick's godparents for 30 years as a housekeeper, and when she retired, they watched after her. Before he passed away, Cliff Brown asked his godson to take care of Johnson. Now a member of the Eick family visits her nearly every day. Eick planned the 104th birthday celebration after Johnson told him that was what she wanted this year.

But she had to wait for her present after rain delayed the game she planned to see last month.

Johnson ate a hot dog topped with mustard Sunday and joined in with some of the 31,572 people in attendance during the seventh-inning stretch.

"Take me out to the ball game. Take me out with the crowd," she sang from a suite overlooking the stadium.

One of her favorite parts of the day: seeing the players on the field throwing the ball.

"It's just so much fun to see her with that big smile," said Terri Eick, Steve Eick's wife.

Audrey Jackson's husband, Bert Jackson, who also attended the game, lived near Johnson for almost four decades. Johnson didn't have any children. Close friends such as Jackson, 74, watched out for her, helping with errands and driving her to appointments.

He eventually moved and rented his house to a family member with one stipulation: "You got to look out for Mary," he said.

The tenant, Robin Tillman, cut Johnson's grass in the summer and shoveled snow in the winter.

"She's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet," Tillman said.

Life at the nursing home, where she has lived for about eight months, has changed a little bit since the media attention.

"Every morning I go down to breakfast, everybody in the dining room bows," Johnson said, laughing.

If she has it her way, she just may ask for a repeat of Sunday for her next birthday.

"This is really a dream that came true for Mary," Steve Eick said.

classy move by the Tigers :thumbup:

 
My daughters friend got arrested last night. They had first row seat behind the Tampa dugout..when they scored the winning run this kid jumped down and ran through the Ray dugout and came out the other side and back in his seat..the whole crowd was slapping him five and nothing happened at first then my daughter said 7-8 security and cops dragged him out.

After detaining him for 15 minutes they let him go...what an idiot!

 
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DETROIT -- Magglio Ordonez isn't in the Detroit Tigers' lineup in his second game back from the disabled list, replaced in right field by Andy Dirks, as his team plays the Cleveland Indians in the 7:05 p.m. opener of a three-game series which will decide first place in the American League Central.

Manager Jim Leyland opted to make one of the Tigers' leading stars into a platoon player for one night, based on right-handed batters carrying a .194 average against Indians starter Justin Masterson. Left-handed batters hit .314 against Masterson.

Masterson will open in the series in a pitching showdown against Detroit ace Justin Verlander, who will have this lineup behind him, which does not include regular shortstop Jhonny Peralta, who gets a night off for rest:

1. Austin Jackson, CF

2. Don Kelly, 3B

3. Brennan Boesch, RF

4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B

5. Victor Martinez, DH

6. Andy Dirks, LF

7. Alex Avila, C

8. Ramon Santiago, SS

9. Ryan Raburn, 2B
If anyone wonders why Leyland gets criticized so much, it's decisions like this. First place is on the line and he sits Peralta to REST him? You have to be kidding me.
 
Masterson is murder on righties (.518 OPS) and Ramon is hot right now, that's probably why.

Verlander plunked Santana already, we'll see if this gets chippy. :popcorn:

 
This just in!:

Alex Avila is taking ground balls at third base! He will likely get a few games there when the Tigers play in National League parks coming up. Interesting, maybe Leyland is actually an evil genius. :mellow:

 
This just in!:Alex Avila is taking ground balls at third base! He will likely get a few games there when the Tigers play in National League parks coming up. Interesting, maybe Leyland is actually an evil genius. :mellow:
Avila played 3rd in college before switching to catcher.
MLB line shots>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college line shotsI like the idea though, stick him in there for three ABs and then bring in Kelly. Can't be worse than Raburn.
 
Good call on raburn, four men stranded already. Why not Danny Worth tonight?

Verlander is evil tonight, his change-up has the Indians guessing.

 
Too early to mention it yet
I don't think it matters. He goes out there every time thinking he can do it, and right now he has a chance. I forget who was saying he was a two pitch pitcher a couple of years ago, but that certainly isn't even close to the case now (really wasn't then either). An effective change-up with a 99 mph four-seamer and a 94mph two-seamer, is devastating. Oh, and his curve is among the best in the game. Good luck, he's the best pitcher in baseball.
 
Too early to mention it yet
I don't think it matters. He goes out there every time thinking he can do it, and right now he has a chance. I forget who was saying he was a two pitch pitcher a couple of years ago, but that certainly isn't even close to the case now (really wasn't then either). An effective change-up with a 99 mph four-seamer and a 94mph two-seamer, is devastating. Oh, and his curve is among the best in the game. Good luck, he's the best pitcher in baseball.
The changeup tonight is absurd. How can anyone hit it?
 
9 IP

0 Runs

2 hits

1 BB

1 Hit batter (pay back for Masterson hitting Cabrera earlier this year)

12 Ks

His change-up was off the charts good tonight and it almost makes me feel sorry for opposing hitters (Grady Sizemore :lmao: ). ++ four seam fast ball, ++ curve and then you face him on a night where his change-up had everyone hacking at pitches in the dirt. Oh, and this was a fairly big game as far as mid season games go and he was at his best. I said it two years ago, last year and I'll say it again now: there is not one player in baseball I'd trade him for.

 
This just in!:

Alex Avila is taking ground balls at third base! He will likely get a few games there when the Tigers play in National League parks coming up. Interesting, maybe Leyland is actually an evil genius. :mellow:
Avila played 3rd in college before switching to catcher.
MLB line shots>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college line shotsI like the idea though, stick him in there for three ABs and then bring in Kelly. Can't be worse than Raburn.
Avila has to be in the lineup for sure over Raburn.But got to be careful with Victor behind the plate, let's hope we don't run into any speedy teams.

Only other option I've heard is Miggs at 3rd & Victor at 1st. :shrug:

 
RedSox are bringing up Andy Miller. At 26 he may be finally maturing into a MLB pitcher. Nice to have that lineup hitting for you.

Andrew Miller pitched 5 1/3 innings on Tuesday night against Triple-A Charlotte and allowed one run on five hits with one walk and 10 strikeouts. He has a 2.47 ERA on the year and has allowed just seven earned runs with 30 strikeouts over his last 30 1/3 innings

 
This just in!:

Alex Avila is taking ground balls at third base! He will likely get a few games there when the Tigers play in National League parks coming up. Interesting, maybe Leyland is actually an evil genius. :mellow:
Avila played 3rd in college before switching to catcher.
MLB line shots>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college line shotsI like the idea though, stick him in there for three ABs and then bring in Kelly. Can't be worse than Raburn.
Avila has to be in the lineup for sure over Raburn.But got to be careful with Victor behind the plate, let's hope we don't run into any speedy teams.

Only other option I've heard is Miggs at 3rd & Victor at 1st. :shrug:
I had this exact thought when I read Leyland's quote. I think he is playing games with the media.

 
This just in!:

Alex Avila is taking ground balls at third base! He will likely get a few games there when the Tigers play in National League parks coming up. Interesting, maybe Leyland is actually an evil genius. :mellow:
Avila played 3rd in college before switching to catcher.
MLB line shots>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college line shotsI like the idea though, stick him in there for three ABs and then bring in Kelly. Can't be worse than Raburn.
Avila has to be in the lineup for sure over Raburn.But got to be careful with Victor behind the plate, let's hope we don't run into any speedy teams.

Only other option I've heard is Miggs at 3rd & Victor at 1st. :shrug:
The knock on Victor's defense is very overstated. He isn't great at throwing out runners, but he's not terrible either. And the impact a stolen base has on the game is pretty minor. He was a full-time catcher in the big leagues for seven years. I think he'll be okay.

 
The knock on Victor's defense is very overstated. He isn't great at throwing out runners, but he's not terrible either. And the impact a stolen base has on the game is pretty minor. He was a full-time catcher in the big leagues for seven years. I think he'll be okay.
Maybe they just have to match him with the right pitchers, I remember a couple games where he did not look good but the runners were getting big jumps too.
 
'Da Guru said:
Is it me or are the Tigers more fun to watch without Inge?
:goodposting: I wouldn't doubt we will be saying the same thing when Dirks gets time over Magglio soon.Singlio is back in the lineup again today while Dirks sits again. Sometimes I'd like to take Leyland's heaters and put them out on his leather face. :boxing:
 
'Da Guru said:
'Leroy Hoard said:
'scrumptrulescent said:
Sometimes I'd like to take Leyland's heaters and put them out on his leather face. :boxing:
Last time I saw a closeup of him it looked like someone beat you to the punch.
Give him a break..Leyland used to play goalie for a dart team.
I thought he got all of those marks from falling asleep with a cigarette in his mouth every night
 
Okay, somebody tell me why Smokey Leatherface feels the need to pull Boesch out of the end of every game? Boesch doesn't strike me as any less able to handle the outfield as Wells and Dirks are.

Do Boesch's violent swings cause him to get sleepy around the 8th inning?

 
Before I forget, I think trading Scott Sizemore was a mistake. He has hit at every level and just needed more time.

That is all.

 

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