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[Leroy Hoard]

Love the Doug Fist~her move

Furr-bush got fisted.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Loved the Guillen HR trot. Sticking up for his own. And I don't really care what any Angels say. It could lend toward team unity in Detroit's clubhouse and I like that.

 

[whoknew]

I had no problem with the bunt. It was fine.

I also had no problem with what Guillen did. He wouldn't have done that if Weaver hadn't acted like a punk when Maggs hit his HR.

And then Weaver throws at Avila's head - that's such a punk move. Overall, Weaver is a punk.

 

[Greco]

I'll be shocked if this team is in first next Monday.

Color me shocked.

 

[Limp Ditka]

So Leyland said Weaver was mad because he thought Maggs was showing him up, even though we all know Maggs doesn't do that. He was watching to see if the ball was staying fair. Yeah Raburn as a defensive replacement over Boesch is strange and that's the second time he's done it this week.

I was not Maggs it was Guillen. He posed for a bit, then as he was staring at Weaver he stuck his arm out to drop his bat and then started a sideways gallup/shuffle down the baseline. A lot of talking back and forth on that too. I probably would have plunked the next guy too, but not thrown one head high.

The Guillen thing is what finally led to fireworks. But Weaver first got mad and started chirping after the Maggs homer. Magglio was watching to see if it would stay fair and Weaver took exception to it. That was the initial incident.

Watched them go over it on MLBN, they were all over Weaver getting all nuts about Maggs, who did a whole lot of nothing. Big deal, he leaned to see if it was going to be fair. Relax Weaver.Loved the Guillen HR trot. Sticking up for his own. And I don't really care what any Angels say. It could lend toward team unity in Detroit's clubhouse and I like that.Aybar's bunt was bush. Come on Scoscia, you're better than that....go get your pitcher his pacifier and play the game like men.

All of you unwritten rule #####es need to mouth it. It was obvious that it was done to piss them off, but that bunt got them back in the game. That's why they are out there, to win games.

Is that you Jered? Stop embarrassing the once proud California Angels Organization. ::rally monkey::

Hey! I also like V in the dugout after the inning yelling out to Aybar telling him he's getting one in the back next time

 

[Greco]

Hey! I also like V in the dugout after the inning yelling out to Aybar telling him he's getting one in the back next time

He should have hit him to lead off the 8th.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Hey! I also like V in the dugout after the inning yelling out to Aybar telling him he's getting one in the back next time

He should have hit him to lead off the 8th.

Warnings were given and he's tossed if he does that. Can't do that when it's your no-no going.There really wasn't an opportunity for V to retaliate that inning.

 

[Greco]

Hey! I also like V in the dugout after the inning yelling out to Aybar telling him he's getting one in the back next time

He should have hit him to lead off the 8th.

Warnings were given and he's tossed if he does that. Can't do that when it's your no-no going.There really wasn't an opportunity for V to retaliate that inning.

no-no's are overrated. team first. avilla should have charged the mound and verlander should have plunked aybar.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Watched them go over it on MLBN, they were all over Weaver getting all nuts about Maggs, who did a whole lot of nothing. Big deal, he leaned to see if it was going to be fair. Relax Weaver.Loved the Guillen HR trot. Sticking up for his own. And I don't really care what any Angels say. It could lend toward team unity in Detroit's clubhouse and I like that.Aybar's bunt was bush. Come on Scoscia, you're better than that....go get your pitcher his pacifier and play the game like men.

I won't defend Weaver but the Tigers aren't free of blame in this one.Aybar did the right thing getting on base. It was a close game and they could have easily come back to win.

 

[igbomb]

Magglio is a kindly old man for whom even jogging is dangerous so he needed to wait until he was sure it was fair.

Weaver is a crybaby and a punk who threw a temper tantrum because for the first time this year he was only the second best pitcher on the field. Avila should have steamrolled him and rubbed his face in the dirt.

Guillen is a jerk and should never have strutted like he did. Just take the high-road, put your head down, and jog around the bases. Especially when it is just the second homerun of your year.

Verlander is a beast on the mound, but not a very good fielder.

I really, really hope these two teams face each other in the ALCS. Extremely unlikely, but man would it be fun.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Magglio is a kindly old man for whom even jogging is dangerous so he needed to wait until he was sure it was fair.

Guillen is a jerk and should never have strutted like he did. Just take the high-road, put your head down, and jog around the bases. Especially when it is just the second homerun of your year.

What does that say about Jeff Weaver's Brother? A cripple like Guillen jacks a no doubter to right. Maggs sounds like a senior citizen talking about playing with disrespectful youngsters.

“I don't hit many homers any more, so I wanted to make sure that one was going to stay fair,” Ordonez said. “I'm not going to try to show up anyone in this league. That's not me.”

But Weaver clearly didn't like Ordonez's hesitation to start running the bases and let him know about it.

“He was yelling at me to run faster,” Ordonez said. “So I told him that I'm old – that's as fast as I can run.”

 

[tri-man 47]

Verlander is a beast on the mound, but not a very good fielder.

True. He's now tied for the lead for pitchers (with Garza) with 5 errors. Five pitchers have 4.

 

[Greco]

Verlander is a beast on the mound, but not a very good fielder.

True. He's now tied for the lead for pitchers (with Garza) with 5 errors. Five pitchers have 4.

I would venture to guess most of those are from poor throws on pick off attempts. It's not that he can't field. It's that he can't throw to first so good.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

“He was yelling at me to run faster,” Ordonez said. “So I told him that I'm old – that's as fast as I can run.”

LOL

 

[Billy Bats]

As an outsider with no dog in the fight, Weaver and Guillen both overreacted. I have no problem with Weaver's message after Guillen's antics, that's on Guillen not Weaver.

And no issue with the bunt either, it's not like it was 7-0 and Adam Dunn bunting. It's part of aybar's game, and it rallied them for two runs an a chance to win. Good play. If V could trow to first it wouldn't be an issue but Aybar made something happen and gave his team a better chance to win.

 

[Apple Juice]

If Verlander gave up a home run and was barking at the guy who hit it, calling him a mother-f'er and acting like a psycho, I'd be embarrassed. I don't know if Guillen overreacted or not--he clearly wanted to blast one and rub Weaver's face in it--but Weaver started the whole thing and came unglued when somebody responded to him.

I don't wish Avila would have charged Weaver and beat the #### out of him, but I wouldn't have minded seeing it.

 

[igbomb]

Magglio is a kindly old man for whom even jogging is dangerous so he needed to wait until he was sure it was fair.

Guillen is a jerk and should never have strutted like he did. Just take the high-road, put your head down, and jog around the bases. Especially when it is just the second homerun of your year.

What does that say about Jeff Weaver's Brother? A cripple like Guillen jacks a no doubter to right.

It doesn't say anything about him. Guys run into one every now and then. In fact, Weaver has given up very few HRs this year. He's a whiny punk, but Guillen hitting one out doesn't mean that he now sucks.

 

[jon_mx]

A bit a trash talk.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Link

Tigers designate Purcey for assignment. But the bottom of this article caught my eye:

Note: Leyland said he's still trying to decide whether to pitch ace Justin Verlander in the series finale against Cleveland a week from Thursday. He could hold him until next day in Baltimore. But if he does that, there's no chance Verlander will face the Indians in Detroit the following weekend.

You have to be ####### kidding me. If he does not keep Verlander on schedule, he will miss Cleveland TWICE. That would be the stupidest thing he could possibly do.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Link

Tigers designate Purcey for assignment. But the bottom of this article caught my eye:

Note: Leyland said he's still trying to decide whether to pitch ace Justin Verlander in the series finale against Cleveland a week from Thursday. He could hold him until next day in Baltimore. But if he does that, there's no chance Verlander will face the Indians in Detroit the following weekend.

You have to be ####### kidding me. If he does not keep Verlander on schedule, he will miss Cleveland TWICE. That would be the stupidest thing he could possibly do.

I'm going to the three game series vs Baltimore and was doing the math on the way home. I figured I'd miss Verlander, now I guess i might not. Gotta think I miss him though. Purcey, that was an awful ####### trade.

 

[jon_mx]

Tonight's Lineup

A. Jackson CF

B. Boesch LF

M. Ordonez RF

M. Cabrera 1B

V. Martinez DH

J. Peralta SS

C. Guillen 2B

A. Avila C

W. Betemit 3B

Line up from a month ago

A. Jackson, CF

C. Wells, LF

M. Ordonez RF

M. Cabrera 1B

V. Martinez DH

J. Peralta SS

A. Avila, C

B. Inge, 3B

R. Raburn, 2B

I like the change.

The only thing I don't get is Ordonez is by far the least productive hitter this year in the lineup and he continues to bat third.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Link

Tigers designate Purcey for assignment. But the bottom of this article caught my eye:

Note: Leyland said he's still trying to decide whether to pitch ace Justin Verlander in the series finale against Cleveland a week from Thursday. He could hold him until next day in Baltimore. But if he does that, there's no chance Verlander will face the Indians in Detroit the following weekend.

You have to be ####### kidding me. If he does not keep Verlander on schedule, he will miss Cleveland TWICE. That would be the stupidest thing he could possibly do.

I'm going to the three game series vs Baltimore and was doing the math on the way home. I figured I'd miss Verlander, now I guess i might not. Gotta think I miss him though. Purcey, that was an awful ####### trade.

Sizemore is batting .237 with no power and a bunch of strikeouts. It's not like we gave anything up.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Link

Tigers designate Purcey for assignment. But the bottom of this article caught my eye:

Note: Leyland said he's still trying to decide whether to pitch ace Justin Verlander in the series finale against Cleveland a week from Thursday. He could hold him until next day in Baltimore. But if he does that, there's no chance Verlander will face the Indians in Detroit the following weekend.

You have to be ####### kidding me. If he does not keep Verlander on schedule, he will miss Cleveland TWICE. That would be the stupidest thing he could possibly do.

I'm going to the three game series vs Baltimore and was doing the math on the way home. I figured I'd miss Verlander, now I guess i might not. Gotta think I miss him though. Purcey, that was an awful ####### trade.

Sizemore is batting .237 with no power and a bunch of strikeouts. It's not like we gave anything up.

That's fine. He could be in Toledo working on his game in hopes he still might pan out since the Tigers are so shallow at 2B in the system. Better than having a crappy middle reliever eating up space.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Pauley says two outs

 

[jon_mx]

Not a fan of the way Leyland is using the bullpen in this game. Should have let Scherzer pitch into the seventh. Then could have let Paula and Coke pitch a bit longer. Now warming up Valverde in a non-save situation in the 8th. This game has become a disaster.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Benoit was awful. Allowed 3 runs with 2 homers and a walk to allow Texas to tie it up 5-5 and more importantly Scherzer didn't get the win for my fantasy team.

Huge hit to deep right center in a driving rain by Boesch in the bottom of the 8th to get the lead back.

Two errors in a row by Cabrera then Peralta with 2 outs to give the Rangers a chance. Credit Papa Grande to get his 29th save out of 29 opportunities.

Crime of the night, Benoit gets the win.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Jon>it certainly was a save situation.

I knew they were gonna win this game, weird. After Napoli hit that HR I told my buddy they would win, but Benoit sucked. Even after the two errors (and the missed call) in the ninth I was sure. Maybe it's the Rangers, Tigers have always done well vs the Rangers as long as I can remember. It doesn't make sense this season, but still.

Brennan ####### Boesch, guy is climbing my charts. That was an awesome at bat, five pitches before the first ball and then welcomed one of the best relievers to the AL with a HR. Prior to that HR, Adams had allowed four homers in the past two years of work.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Benoit was awful. Allowed 3 runs with 2 homers and a walk to allow Texas to tie it up 5-5 and more importantly Scherzer didn't get the win for my fantasy team.

No, not more importantly. Your fantasy team is more important than your baseball team?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Btw, co Mvp's were Avilla who had 3 RBI's and a home run to deep right center and of course Boesch who was 3 for 4 with the game winner off newly acquired Adams for the Rangers.

Looking forward to seeing Fister pitch tomorrow against a good hitting Rangers club.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Just kidding DD! I enjoyed sitting in my garage and listening to the game on the radio, watching the rain come down and having a cigar.

Although I'm a little salty at Benoit for blowing that Scherzer win.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Just kidding DD! I enjoyed sitting in my garage and listening to the game on the radio, watching the rain come down and having a cigar.Although I'm a little salty at Benoit for blowing that Scherzer win.

Whew, thought you were serious. Yeah I listen to teh radio cast every night myself, always preferred baseball on the radio.Got get'em Fister!!!!!!

 

[jon_mx]

When I posted it was 5-5 end bottom of 7 and he was already warming up. Yes it became a save situation when they scored.

 

[Apple Juice]

Scherzer has perhaps gotten some undeserved wins this year, but he got shafted tonight. Very pleased with his last three outings.

Boesch was an animal tonight. Not just the incredible at-bat and home run, but he was a beast on the basepaths. He should have been out by a mile on the first run of the game but he flew around third like a demon and made a hell of a slide to break up the throw. Also stole a bag on a botched hit and run.

I wouldn't take Boesch out of the line-up the rest of the year, I don't care if a lefty is on the mound or not. He does fine in the outhfield. Provides speed, power and a healthy OBP at the top of the line-up. Love Boesch.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I wouldn't take Boesch out of the line-up the rest of the year, I don't care if a lefty is on the mound or not. He does fine in the outhfield. Provides speed, power and a healthy OBP at the top of the line-up. Love Boesch.

Agree. He has a .837 OPs vs righties coming into tonight, and an .801 OPS vs lefties so unless they are facing Sabathia or Cliff Lee, I think you leave him in. Also why not shift Maggs to LF and have Brennan in RF? Still don't get that.ETA: Actually .807, not .801. Sorry.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't know why I have a problem replying to posts from my Smart Phone but to comment on the post above on the lineup change compared to a month ago, it is a vast improvement.

Wilson Betemit has played well and even clutch in some 2 out situations. The obe thing that lineup is missing is speed outside of Jackson. The Tigers do hit into a lot of double plays and Leyland will have to gamble a bit more on running to stay out of those DP's.

In regards to Mags batting 3rd, I don't have a problem with it. I think he's played better since his return from injury and does a great job hitting to the opposite field when we need it. If he struggles, there are people we can put in there but it's nice to have some real depth in the lineup.

 

[Greco]

still not getting knee deep in the hoopla

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Benoit was awful. Allowed 3 runs with 2 homers and a walk to allow Texas to tie it up 5-5 and more importantly Scherzer didn't get the win for my fantasy team.

Huge hit to deep right center in a driving rain by Boesch in the bottom of the 8th to get the lead back.

Two errors in a row by Cabrera then Peralta with 2 outs to give the Rangers a chance. Credit Papa Grande to get his 29th save out of 29 opportunities.

Crime of the night, Benoit gets the win.

That's an understatement. I was there last night in middle of the action. Got Stubhub seats in the front row of section 102 bleachers. Was just a few seats down from the Avila HR scrum that went on.Fun fact for you all. Last night the same guy who ended up with Avila's HR, also somehow got the Boesch homer in the 8th as well. Somehow the ball must have bounced over pretty far because the Boesch homer didn't come into the stands all that close to us. To the guy's credit, he handed the Boesch HR to a little girl sitting just ahead of him.

Anyway, Benoit heard plenty of boos on his way to the dugout. That was a pretty awful showing.

Scherzer looked awesome, and actually efficient early on, then as usual he struggled and bloated his pitch count in the 4th and 5th innings. After the 6th he had a pitch count of 98. They could have sent him back out. Max drives me nuts. He's so wildly inconsistent. He cruised through the first 3 innings with 32 pitches, then labored through 66 more pitches in the next 3 innings. His innings average per game probably hovers around 6, when it should be a full inning more. Maddening sometimes.

Boesch is a #######g animal. And he's a good kid too. I hope he never sells his Bronco.

ETA: Jackson has been, and was again brutal at the plate. But I'd have to guess he saved a run or 2 on catches he made last night. Makes it look easy running down potential line drive gappers.

 

[tri-man 47]

Btw, co Mvp's were Avilla who had 3 RBI's and a home run to deep right center and of course Boesch who was 3 for 4 with the game winner off newly acquired Adams for the Rangers.Looking forward to seeing Fister pitch tomorrow against a good hitting Rangers club.

The best I can do here in Chicago is follow the game on-line. Thankfully I "missed" the 8th inning and the blown lead. It was then good to see the White Sox game get called, and then for Boston to get the late win over Cleveland. The Chicago Tribune today was in the "time to give up and dump veterans" mood.Definitely looking forward to Fister.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Jackson has been, and was again brutal at the plate. But I'd have to guess he saved a run or 2 on catches he made last night. Makes it look easy running down potential line drive gappers.

In a perfect world they could drop him down in the order, but who would lead off? Still have to put him out there in center every night, they need that defense.

 

[whoknew]

Jackson has been, and was again brutal at the plate. But I'd have to guess he saved a run or 2 on catches he made last night. Makes it look easy running down potential line drive gappers.

In a perfect world they could drop him down in the order, but who would lead off? Still have to put him out there in center every night, they need that defense.

Victor or Avila should lead off.

 

[jon_mx]

Detroit's 8th and 9th hitters are far more productive than their 1st and 3rd hitters.

 

[jon_mx]

7 good innings from Fister! He may not end up with the decision, but this is exactly what the Tigers ordered.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Detroit's 8th and 9th hitters are fair more productive than their 1st and 3rd hitters.

Ordonez is terrible. With the players in this lineup, it is ridiculous that he is still hitting 3rd. On a more positive note, Fister has been very impressive. They do have 3 runs and 8 hits, but they have 2 infield hits, a broken bat hit, and should only have 1 run. They have not hit the ball hard. He definitely knows how to pitch.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Why in the #### did Leyland put Coke in? He has been terrible and he pitches in the 8th inning...ridiculous.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Detroit's 8th and 9th hitters are fair more productive than their 1st and 3rd hitters.

Ordonez is terrible. With the players in this lineup, it is ridiculous that he is still hitting 3rd. On a more positive note, Fister has been very impressive. They do have 3 runs and 8 hits, but they have 2 infield hits, a broken bat hit, and should only have 1 run. They have not hit the ball hard. He definitely knows how to pitch.

And is officially the tallest Tiger ever.

 

[igbomb]

Detroit's 8th and 9th hitters are fair more productive than their 1st and 3rd hitters.

Ordonez is terrible. With the players in this lineup, it is ridiculous that he is still hitting 3rd. On a more positive note, Fister has been very impressive. They do have 3 runs and 8 hits, but they have 2 infield hits, a broken bat hit, and should only have 1 run. They have not hit the ball hard. He definitely knows how to pitch.

Don't get the hate for Maggs. He hasn't been wonderful, but he's hitting as an above average major leaguer since June. Sure he has limited power but he's getting on base and doesn't strike out much. Third may not be the spot for him, but he's far from the biggest anchor offensively.

 

[jon_mx]

Coke comes in and throws one pitch....

Then bring in Bonoit?...I guess he did not give up enough runs last night, they want to give him another opportunity.

Would have rather given Al Al a try here.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Detroit's 8th and 9th hitters are fair more productive than their 1st and 3rd hitters.

Ordonez is terrible. With the players in this lineup, it is ridiculous that he is still hitting 3rd. On a more positive note, Fister has been very impressive. They do have 3 runs and 8 hits, but they have 2 infield hits, a broken bat hit, and should only have 1 run. They have not hit the ball hard. He definitely knows how to pitch.

Don't get the hate for Maggs. He hasn't been wonderful, but he's hitting as an above average major leaguer since June. Sure he has limited power but he's getting on base and doesn't strike out much. Third may not be the spot for him, but he's far from the biggest anchor offensively.

He has 19 RBI in 225 ABs, on base percentage under .300, and no power. I can't even think of one reason to leave him 3rd.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Who doesn't love to watch a good Fister?

 

[igbomb]

Detroit's 8th and 9th hitters are fair more productive than their 1st and 3rd hitters.

Ordonez is terrible. With the players in this lineup, it is ridiculous that he is still hitting 3rd. On a more positive note, Fister has been very impressive. They do have 3 runs and 8 hits, but they have 2 infield hits, a broken bat hit, and should only have 1 run. They have not hit the ball hard. He definitely knows how to pitch.

Don't get the hate for Maggs. He hasn't been wonderful, but he's hitting as an above average major leaguer since June. Sure he has limited power but he's getting on base and doesn't strike out much. Third may not be the spot for him, but he's far from the biggest anchor offensively.

He has 19 RBI in 225 ABs, on base percentage under .300, and no power. I can't even think of one reason to leave him 3rd.

Since coming back from the DL, he has a .340 OBP, .285 AVG, good walk rate, low K rate. I agree has no power and would switch him and Avila in a heartbeat, but he is definitely not a horrible player.