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He should have Scherzer pitch the 25th and Fister pitch the 26th so the pitching lineup is ready with plenty of rest for the playoffs. I would pitch Fister second but that is not how it is going to play out. He could probably let Fister start on the 27th and still have his 5 days off before game 3. But either way, that needs to be the Tigers rotation for the playoffs.

 
Nine game left and the Tigers are up 1 game with the tiebreaker over Texas.

We have

2 @ Royals

4 O's

3 Tribe

They have:

3 @ A's

3 M's

3 @ Angels

One more Verlander, two more of the other four starters. They look like they are playing to get homefield and hope they continue playing that way although a few games where guys are resting is fine. Just don't rest everyone the same damn game Jimmy.

 
'jon_mx said:
No mention of Verlander getting #24 today? 8 innings, three hits, no runs, 6 K's. 17 straight scoreless innings. Just another day at the office. And Valverde got #46. 3 games behind the Yankees and 1 game ahead of the Rangers for home field advantage.
It's all good! Interesting match-ups in the east. Yankees-Rays have seven games against each others. I won't waste brain cells trying to figure out what all could happen ...better that Detroit keeps winning some games and, hopefully, giving some guys some rest.Great job by Verlander again. 25 wins would be sweet ...26 and he'd be getting into some pretty rare air.
He is only starting one more time.
Yup, setting up for the 9/30 Game 1, with 5 days rest twice in a row:Sun, 9/18 at Athletics W 3-0 89-64 Verlander (24-5)

Tue, 9/20 at Royals 8:10p Penny (10-10)

Wed, 9/21 at Royals 8:10p Scherzer (14-9)

Thu, 9/22 Orioles 7:05p Fister (9-13)

Fri, 9/23 Orioles 7:05p Porcello (14-9)

Sat, 9/24 Orioles 7:05p Verlander

Sun, 9/25 Orioles 1:05p

Mon, 9/26 Indians 7:05p

Tue, 9/27 Indians 7:05p

Wed, 9/28 Indians 7:05p
I'll be there Saturday :thumbup:
 
Leyland was on with Mike Stone this morning.

Stone asked about the strong second half after the last few seasons. Leyland said he did nothing different this year than he has done his whole career. Had no idea why the team faltered the last few years other than running into hot teams at the wrong times.

About MVP, Leyland said he is firm in his stance that pitchers should not be elgible for MVP and that the CY Young is the pitchers MVP.(someone said that here before) That being said given the rules the way they are Verlander is without a doubt the frontrunner for AL MVP.

Said Guillen pulled his calf muscle and has no idea what the timeframe will be on him.

Asked to look ahead and "if" the Tigers make the WSC what is he going to do with V-Mart in NL parks. In his best Leyland he said I know but am not telling you.

Asked about is Fister is #2 going into the playoff and stated he has not decided as of yet. Stone thinks that if Tigers are in Comerica Max might get the start, away Fister.

Stone asked about the pressure and Leyland as he always says "Pressure is having five mouths to feed and not enough money to feed them. This is fun.

 
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'Da Guru said:
Leyland was on with Mike Stone this morning.

Stone asked about the strong second half after the last few seasons. Leyland said he did nothing different this year than he has done his whole career. Had no idea why the team faltered the last few years other than running into hot teams at the wrong times.

About MVP, Leyland said he is firm in his stance that pitchers should not be elgible for MVP and that the CY Young is the pitchers MVP.(someone said that here before) That being said given the rules the way they are Verlander is without a doubt the frontrunner for AL MVP.

Said Guillen pulled his calf muscle and has no idea what the timeframe will be on him.

Asked to look ahead and "if" the Tigers make the WSC what is he going to do with V-Mart in NL parks. In his best Leyland he said I know but am not telling you.

Asked about is Fister is #2 going into the playoff and stated he has not decided as of yet. Stone thinks that if Tigers are in Comerica Max might get the start, away Fister.

Stone asked about the pressure and Leyland as he always says "Pressure is having five mouths to feed and not enough money to feed them. This is fun.
Well, I'll at very least state that Leyland has much better persepective than me.
 
No mention of Verlander getting #24 today? 8 innings, three hits, no runs, 6 K's. 17 straight scoreless innings. Just another day at the office. And Valverde got #46. 3 games behind the Yankees and 1 game ahead of the Rangers for home field advantage.
It's all good! Interesting match-ups in the east. Yankees-Rays have seven games against each others. I won't waste brain cells trying to figure out what all could happen ...better that Detroit keeps winning some games and, hopefully, giving some guys some rest.Great job by Verlander again. 25 wins would be sweet ...26 and he'd be getting into some pretty rare air.
He is only starting one more time.
Yup, setting up for the 9/30 Game 1, with 5 days rest twice in a row:Sun, 9/18 at Athletics W 3-0 89-64 Verlander (24-5)

Tue, 9/20 at Royals 8:10p Penny (10-10)

Wed, 9/21 at Royals 8:10p Scherzer (14-9)

Thu, 9/22 Orioles 7:05p Fister (9-13)

Fri, 9/23 Orioles 7:05p Porcello (14-9)

Sat, 9/24 Orioles 7:05p Verlander

Sun, 9/25 Orioles 1:05p

Mon, 9/26 Indians 7:05p

Tue, 9/27 Indians 7:05p

Wed, 9/28 Indians 7:05p
Ah, good observations. I should have thought that through. But this looks perfect for JV. It will be interesting to see when the four playoff teams and home field advantages get resolved ...and who, then, can rest some arms.
 
Man, its huge to stay in the #2 slot and get home field advantage. And if they do that - I'm definitely rooting for Boston to hold off TB right now. Boston's pitching is a mess.

 
Fister is scheduled to pitch next Tuesday so it seems as though Scherzer is gonna be the game 2 starter regardless of where that game is. Maybe that'll change (Tuesday is actually one extra days rest for Fister), but I would tend to think the rotation stays the way it is.

On who we should play, they just haven't had much luck vs the Red Sux in recent past. They have Beckett, Lester and two ok starters so I think that series has no clear advantage especially with Boston's speed. I think New York is the better match-up but that would mean starting on the road, which I do not want. Tigers played very well vs Tampa this year and it would be two hot teams squaring off and that would be a fun series. I'm not going to wish for anything, but I also don't think Boston is necessarily the best match-up for them.

 
DETROIT -- The statue of the late Ernie Harwell is looking good again.A worker from a Michigan foundry re-attached a new pair of glasses Tuesday to the white bronze statue of Harwell that stands inside Comerica Park in downtown Detroit. Someone had ripped the original eyeglasses off the statue.No one knows exactly when they were broken off or who did it, but stadium officials alerted the company behind the work earlier this summer that the glasses were missing, said sculptor Lou Cella of the Fine Art Studio of Rotblatt-Amrany outside Chicago."Ernie wore pretty delicate glasses, at least during the age we depicted him," Cella said. "We initially made them as durable as we could. If somebody wants to go all out and rip the things off, they can just do it."Harwell, a baseball announcing legend, died in May 2010 at the age of 92. Cella met with Harwell while the piece was being created."I couldn't say enough good things about him," Cella said.He said he anticipated "what might go wrong" as he was working on the statue."In the case of the glasses, you're making a choice between other ways that are much more durable, but you sacrifice aesthetic appeal," he said, adding that it is not unusual for vandals or overzealous fans to break off pieces of statues.A microphone on a piece in Chicago memorializing Harry Caray also has been broken off."There is no way to protect such a thing like this. The only way is to educate the public," said Omri Amrany, co-founder of the Rotblatt-Amrany studio.
Whoever did this deserves a shoe print on their face.
 
DETROIT -- The statue of the late Ernie Harwell is looking good again.A worker from a Michigan foundry re-attached a new pair of glasses Tuesday to the white bronze statue of Harwell that stands inside Comerica Park in downtown Detroit. Someone had ripped the original eyeglasses off the statue.No one knows exactly when they were broken off or who did it, but stadium officials alerted the company behind the work earlier this summer that the glasses were missing, said sculptor Lou Cella of the Fine Art Studio of Rotblatt-Amrany outside Chicago."Ernie wore pretty delicate glasses, at least during the age we depicted him," Cella said. "We initially made them as durable as we could. If somebody wants to go all out and rip the things off, they can just do it."Harwell, a baseball announcing legend, died in May 2010 at the age of 92. Cella met with Harwell while the piece was being created."I couldn't say enough good things about him," Cella said.He said he anticipated "what might go wrong" as he was working on the statue."In the case of the glasses, you're making a choice between other ways that are much more durable, but you sacrifice aesthetic appeal," he said, adding that it is not unusual for vandals or overzealous fans to break off pieces of statues.A microphone on a piece in Chicago memorializing Harry Caray also has been broken off."There is no way to protect such a thing like this. The only way is to educate the public," said Omri Amrany, co-founder of the Rotblatt-Amrany studio.
Whoever did this deserves a shoe print on their face.
:goodposting: The one time I'd hit somebody with glasses.
 
Fister is scheduled to pitch next Tuesday so it seems as though Scherzer is gonna be the game 2 starter regardless of where that game is. Maybe that'll change (Tuesday is actually one extra days rest for Fister), but I would tend to think the rotation stays the way it is.On who we should play, they just haven't had much luck vs the Red Sux in recent past. They have Beckett, Lester and two ok starters so I think that series has no clear advantage especially with Boston's speed. I think New York is the better match-up but that would mean starting on the road, which I do not want. Tigers played very well vs Tampa this year and it would be two hot teams squaring off and that would be a fun series. I'm not going to wish for anything, but I also don't think Boston is necessarily the best match-up for them.
Leyland is pitching both Schezer and Fister today to give him the extra time to decide who will be his #2.
 
Fister is scheduled to pitch next Tuesday so it seems as though Scherzer is gonna be the game 2 starter regardless of where that game is. Maybe that'll change (Tuesday is actually one extra days rest for Fister), but I would tend to think the rotation stays the way it is.On who we should play, they just haven't had much luck vs the Red Sux in recent past. They have Beckett, Lester and two ok starters so I think that series has no clear advantage especially with Boston's speed. I think New York is the better match-up but that would mean starting on the road, which I do not want. Tigers played very well vs Tampa this year and it would be two hot teams squaring off and that would be a fun series. I'm not going to wish for anything, but I also don't think Boston is necessarily the best match-up for them.
Leyland is pitching both Schezer and Fister today to give him the extra time to decide who will be his #2.
Interesting decision. So Fister will pitch Monday for fantasy purposes. Porcello Friday, Verlander Saturday, Scherzer Sunday, Fister Monday, Penny Tuesday and I guess Porcello again Wednesday. Also no Miggy tonight. We need the A's to beat up Texas thte next two nights and get a lead back. Would be nice to go into that last series up two games for homefield.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'igbomb said:
Fister is scheduled to pitch next Tuesday so it seems as though Scherzer is gonna be the game 2 starter regardless of where that game is. Maybe that'll change (Tuesday is actually one extra days rest for Fister), but I would tend to think the rotation stays the way it is.On who we should play, they just haven't had much luck vs the Red Sux in recent past. They have Beckett, Lester and two ok starters so I think that series has no clear advantage especially with Boston's speed. I think New York is the better match-up but that would mean starting on the road, which I do not want. Tigers played very well vs Tampa this year and it would be two hot teams squaring off and that would be a fun series. I'm not going to wish for anything, but I also don't think Boston is necessarily the best match-up for them.
Leyland is pitching both Schezer and Fister today to give him the extra time to decide who will be his #2.
Interesting decision. So Fister will pitch Monday for fantasy purposes. Porcello Friday, Verlander Saturday, Scherzer Sunday, Fister Monday, Penny Tuesday and I guess Porcello again Wednesday. Also no Miggy tonight. We need the A's to beat up Texas thte next two nights and get a lead back. Would be nice to go into that last series up two games for homefield.
I wouldn't be surprised if Leyland switched Fister and Scherzer for their next start. I think that may have been part of the reason for combining their starts today. Or he could double them up again, give someone else a spot start, and give himself the luxury of waiting until the last minute to decide who is playoffs #2 and not run the risk of anyone starting on short rest.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'igbomb said:
Fister is scheduled to pitch next Tuesday so it seems as though Scherzer is gonna be the game 2 starter regardless of where that game is. Maybe that'll change (Tuesday is actually one extra days rest for Fister), but I would tend to think the rotation stays the way it is.On who we should play, they just haven't had much luck vs the Red Sux in recent past. They have Beckett, Lester and two ok starters so I think that series has no clear advantage especially with Boston's speed. I think New York is the better match-up but that would mean starting on the road, which I do not want. Tigers played very well vs Tampa this year and it would be two hot teams squaring off and that would be a fun series. I'm not going to wish for anything, but I also don't think Boston is necessarily the best match-up for them.
Leyland is pitching both Schezer and Fister today to give him the extra time to decide who will be his #2.
Interesting decision. So Fister will pitch Monday for fantasy purposes. Porcello Friday, Verlander Saturday, Scherzer Sunday, Fister Monday, Penny Tuesday and I guess Porcello again Wednesday. Also no Miggy tonight. We need the A's to beat up Texas thte next two nights and get a lead back. Would be nice to go into that last series up two games for homefield.
I wouldn't be surprised if Leyland switched Fister and Scherzer for their next start. I think that may have been part of the reason for combining their starts today. Or he could double them up again, give someone else a spot start, and give himself the luxury of waiting until the last minute to decide who is playoffs #2 and not run the risk of anyone starting on short rest.
I'd bet money he is making sure he covers all his bases so he can start Scherzer at home no matter whether we start at home or on the road.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'igbomb said:
Fister is scheduled to pitch next Tuesday so it seems as though Scherzer is gonna be the game 2 starter regardless of where that game is. Maybe that'll change (Tuesday is actually one extra days rest for Fister), but I would tend to think the rotation stays the way it is.On who we should play, they just haven't had much luck vs the Red Sux in recent past. They have Beckett, Lester and two ok starters so I think that series has no clear advantage especially with Boston's speed. I think New York is the better match-up but that would mean starting on the road, which I do not want. Tigers played very well vs Tampa this year and it would be two hot teams squaring off and that would be a fun series. I'm not going to wish for anything, but I also don't think Boston is necessarily the best match-up for them.
Leyland is pitching both Schezer and Fister today to give him the extra time to decide who will be his #2.
Interesting decision. So Fister will pitch Monday for fantasy purposes. Porcello Friday, Verlander Saturday, Scherzer Sunday, Fister Monday, Penny Tuesday and I guess Porcello again Wednesday. Also no Miggy tonight. We need the A's to beat up Texas thte next two nights and get a lead back. Would be nice to go into that last series up two games for homefield.
I wouldn't be surprised if Leyland switched Fister and Scherzer for their next start. I think that may have been part of the reason for combining their starts today. Or he could double them up again, give someone else a spot start, and give himself the luxury of waiting until the last minute to decide who is playoffs #2 and not run the risk of anyone starting on short rest.
I'd bet money he is making sure he covers all his bases so he can start Scherzer at home no matter whether we start at home or on the road.
Completely agree. But since it's unlikely that we know early next week whether the Tigers will be home or road, he may have to double them up again to be sure.
 
Tigers need to get Fister signed to a multi-year deal, but his price tag has to be rising really fast. Probably 10 times plus what he is making now.

 
Tigers need to get Fister signed to a multi-year deal, but his price tag has to be rising really fast. Probably 10 times plus what he is making now.
Fister is currently under team control through 2015. He doesn't even hit his first year of arbitration until 2013. That means he'll make roughly $450K next year and the Tigers need not rush to sign a long-term deal. If he is lights out again next year, they may want to buy out his arbitration years, but they'd be silly to jump the gun.
 
Tigers need to get Fister signed to a multi-year deal, but his price tag has to be rising really fast. Probably 10 times plus what he is making now.
Fister is currently under team control through 2015. He doesn't even hit his first year of arbitration until 2013. That means he'll make roughly $450K next year and the Tigers need not rush to sign a long-term deal. If he is lights out again next year, they may want to buy out his arbitration years, but they'd be silly to jump the gun.
:goodposting:
 
Right now the Tigers would host the wildcard team game 1 since they own the tiebreaker vs Texas (6-3 season series).

If the Tigers slip behind Texas the Tigers would open in Yankee Stadium.

 
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Right now the Tigers would host the wildcard team game 1 since they own the tiebreaker vs Texas (6-3 season series).If the Tigers slip behind Texas the Tigers would open in Yankee Stadium.
And Leyland's cutting Max short and throwing Fister in relief?Talk about succeeding in spite of someone.
 
It worked out well last night and Leyland will probably pull this trick one more time, but who is going to pick up the extra starts, Al Al?

 
It worked out well last night and Leyland will probably pull this trick one more time, but who is going to pick up the extra starts, Al Al?
Turner is listed as the starter tonight but skipper has been quoted as saying Al will pitch tonight, maybe another combo start?
 
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Ok, little diatribe here....

I don't care what the Tigers do between now and next Wednesday as long as they are still playing hard. If they go 3-3 and the Rangers go 4-2, so be it. I don't think we want to play anyone in particular, I think we just want someone to not want to play us. That team isn't Boston IMO, I think they have something to prove and I really do believe they have the best line-up in baseball. Beckett is gonna deal, Lester is pretty damn good and the rest are not much worse than the Tigers can offer. No disrespect to the Yankees or Rangers either, but the Tigers would be underdogs against both and both have a bit to protect as defending AL champs and $210 million Goliath.

Sure it would be nice to see the first two games in Detroit on a Friday and Saturday no less, but I'm not wishing for anything. I think the Yankees or Rangers are slightly better match-ups for the Tigers even if the Red Sux look the worst right now. All four teams can hit, but the team that pitches the best wins the AL and I think the Tigers can be that team. But they need to either split on the road or sweep at home to get through IMO, and I like my chances to split better on the road. May sound crazy, but I think it's true in a five game series. Now Boston in a seven game series? Yeah I like that a little better.

But people saying the Tigers would roll the Red Sux (especially Tigers fans who two months ago were calling for the GM and Manager's ouster) are a bit off the mark IMO. They still have two very good starters and they have a seriously ridiculous line-up that can ruin the best pitching outing in a matter of minutes. I think with the Rangers you can pitch carefully to guys (like the Tigers) and the Yankees you can hope for a bad stretch. The 275 foot fence in Yankee Stadium gives me pause however, but they have to pitch to it also.

[*]Peralta looks pretty bad the past few weeks, expect a nice ALDS from him.

[*]Turner is 20 years old but he looks like he's in command out there. Two bad pitches tonight, the Adam Jones shot was a missle

[*]I miss Brennen Boesch, I really wish he was out in RF. He was sitting right next to Justin tonight though, they must be BFFs.

[*]VMART sliding into first base to try to beat out a duble play ball in a game like this, solidifies him as my second favorite Tiger. He's dreamy. :wub:

[*]Raburn is still a disaster in the field, regardless of where you put him.

[*]They need to rest Avila at least one more game, maybe two before the playoffs.

 
DETROIT -- Manager Jim Leyland pitched starters Doug Fister and Max Scherzer on Wednesday to line up his rotation for the playoffs. Now, the remainder of the rotation appears close to being set.Fister will be Detroit's Game 2 starter, with Leyland saying Thursday that where or who the Tigers played in the American League Division Series would not affect who would follow Justin Verlander in the rotation.Fister is 7-1 with a 2.02 ERA since joining the Tigers and has given up one earned run or fewer in his last seven starts.
Ok. So you are gonna have Max possibly pitching at Fenway? Ok, whatever. What do i know...
 
Playoff roster:

VMART

Avila

Cabrera

Santiago

Raburn

Peralta

Betemit

Inge

Young

Dirks

AJAX

Kelly

Maggs

Guillen

Verlander

Fister

Scherzer

Porcello

Schlereth

Coke

Benoit

AlAl

Valverde

Below

Pauley

Penny and Perry seem to be on the outside looking in, but Leyland hates Pauley so he'll find a way to leave him out. Guillen is likely because he can pinch hit, and if healthy you want him pinch hitting. If Guillen isn't healthy, I guess you go Santos because even though Leyland says VMART can catch...I'd rather have pine-riding insurance than the likes of Rhymes.

 
If tiger/o's game tonight is called due to rain and the rangers have a 1/2 game lead at seasons end, do they play a make up on the 29th?

 
Playoff roster:VMARTAvilaCabreraSantiagoRaburnPeraltaBetemitIngeYoungDirksAJAXKellyMaggsGuillenVerlanderFisterScherzerPorcelloSchlerethCokeBenoitAlAlValverdeBelowPauleyPenny and Perry seem to be on the outside looking in, but Leyland hates Pauley so he'll find a way to leave him out. Guillen is likely because he can pinch hit, and if healthy you want him pinch hitting. If Guillen isn't healthy, I guess you go Santos because even though Leyland says VMART can catch...I'd rather have pine-riding insurance than the likes of Rhymes.
Do they really need 7 relief pitchers? Seems like they could go with 6 and take an extra bat.
 
Good to see JV settle down last night, but too bad the Tigers lost the game. At least they bounced back for the win here on Sunday. Tough balancing act here - rest some guys (e.g., Avila), or play hard for home field advantage? I guess they take it day to day and see what shakes out.

 
I fail to see how Miguel Cabrera isn't garnering more MVP support.
True. I suppose an argument might be that other guys are contributing a lot as well ...but that's true for the NY and Boston candidates also. Cabrera has taken the batting lead! That'd be great if he holds it and wins the batting title. Verlander still holds a .240/.241 lead over Weaver for the ERA lead, from what I saw after their recent outings. Will Weaver pitch once more? They're 3 games out in the wild card. If they miss the playoffs, maybe they pitch him once more ...just to give him a shot at lowering the ERA.Boston needed a 14th inning win to hold their one game lead for the wild card. :popcorn:
 
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Given the mess with the wildcard playing either Boston or Tampa seems best because we will not be getting their #1 in games one or two. Then again both teams will be locked in to playoff baseball, which is nice for them. Still not gonna wish for anything in particular but I'm backing off not wanting Boston in particular.

Really hurt the Angels lost yesterday, they have less to play for vs Texas now. They'd have to win all three, hope Boston loses all three and Tampa loses two. Slim to none chance there.

 

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