***Officialish Detroit Tigers Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[scrumptrulescent]

And no one can hate this deal.

BULL####!!!!

:finger:

Here's to you....rest of the division

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Word around the campfire is Cabrera is down 20+ pounds and is looking ripped. We'll see in a few weeks.

 

[Eephus]

Word around the campfire is Cabrera is down 20+ pounds and is looking ripped. We'll see in a few weeks.

The best shape of his careerTM

 

[Greco]

Word is he's in two piece shape

 

[Gopher State]

Great move by Mr I. Should have the division wrapped up before football starts again!

Yept, the Tigers are the "Dream Team" of MBL

 

[whoknew]

I watched a little of the press conference today.

I don't see why the Tigers would keep Inge on the team.

Assuming a 12 man pitching staff, the roster looks like:

Avila

Laird

Cabrera

Fielder

Raburn

Peralta

Kelly

Santiago

Dirks

Jackson

Boesch

Young

That leaves one spot open. Why keep a declining defensive 3B that can't hit? Kelly can easily play 3B when Cabrera doesn't.

 

[meeka]

Word around the campfire is Cabrera is down 20+ pounds and is looking ripped. We'll see in a few weeks.

There is a picture of him and Hanley from Hanley's twitter account out there that has Miggy looking pretty trim. We will see soon enough once spring training opens up.

 

[igbomb]

I watched a little of the press conference today.I don't see why the Tigers would keep Inge on the team.Assuming a 12 man pitching staff, the roster looks like:AvilaLairdCabrera FielderRaburnPeraltaKellySantiagoDirksJacksonBoeschYoungThat leaves one spot open. Why keep a declining defensive 3B that can't hit? Kelly can easily play 3B when Cabrera doesn't.

With Raburn now at 2B and Young slated to see a lot of time at DH, I wouldn't be surprised if Inge gets squeezed in favor of an outfielder.

 

[Ilov80s]

Rob Neyer wrote the following in his blog today (or yesterday) about Magglio's contract:

"Magglio ... well, that one didn't work out too well. That one didn't work out too well at all."

What a weird thing to write. I don't know of any Tiger fan or (I'm guessing) executive that would complain a bit about Magglio's time in the D. Sure the last year wasn't good - but overall? Magglio was a great Tiger.

Completely ridiculous statement. Magglio was one of the best signings the Tigers ever made. Even his roughest year, last year, wasn't a disaster. If Prince works out as well as Magglio I'll be thrilled.

Magglio finished 2nd in the MVP voting, was a 2x all star, won a batting title, hit .300 in 5 of his 7 seasons and hit the walk off HR to win the ALCS. That was a good signing.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

***Official Texas Rangers 2012 Thread***Only Fluff talk here, for TRUE baseball talk, visit the Detroit thread

 

[Da Guru]

Rob Neyer wrote the following in his blog today (or yesterday) about Magglio's contract:

"Magglio ... well, that one didn't work out too well. That one didn't work out too well at all."

What a weird thing to write. I don't know of any Tiger fan or (I'm guessing) executive that would complain a bit about Magglio's time in the D. Sure the last year wasn't good - but overall? Magglio was a great Tiger.

Completely ridiculous statement. Magglio was one of the best signings the Tigers ever made. Even his roughest year, last year, wasn't a disaster. If Prince works out as well as Magglio I'll be thrilled.

Magglio finished 2nd in the MVP voting, was a 2x all star, won a batting title, hit .300 in 5 of his 7 seasons and hit the walk off HR to win the ALCS. That was a good signing.

Maggs first and last seasons he had injury issues but when healthy Maggs produced. Very good signing by the Tigers.

 

[AmosMoses]

 

[AmosMoses]

"Having a roster with 3 catchers and 6 DHs is the new Moneyball"

-Nate Silver

Still, do you not sign him?

 

[Premier]

How many games before they move Miggy to DH? Do they even attempt to open the season with him at 3B?

 

[meeka]

How many games before they move Miggy to DH? Do they even attempt to open the season with him at 3B?

Who knows. I think they do.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

How many games before they move Miggy to DH? Do they even attempt to open the season with him at 3B?

Oh he's gonna get a lot of games at DH regardless. I think they try him at 3B, then try him at LF too. I wish they would just tell him he's playing LF and put him out there. They seem like they have this issue every year with Inge, VMART, Guillen, Sheffield, etc, etc, etc. Logically the guy would be ok in LF so I think that's where you put him but Miggy wants to play 3B so they are gonna give him a shot there. But there is no reason they shouldn't want to keep VMART and that guy is going to be a DH on this team given all that has happened. So they need to play Miggy in the field going forward and IMO that place is LF. Again, if Manny can do it so can Miggy who is a better athlete. Leyland said he thinks Miggy has one of the best arms in baseball. That is an exaggeration but Miggy's arm is probably above average at 3B. But as we all know the concern is him actually getting to the ball. His glove and arm are at least average if not above average, but his range is bad to abominable.

 

[jon_mx]

I actually think he will be OK at 3rd. His glove is solid. 3rd base is more about quickness than speed, well except for bunts. The Tigers aren't going to win many games with defense, but that was true last year too.

 

[the moops]

I actually think he will be OK at 3rd. His glove is solid. 3rd base is more about quickness than speed, well except for bunts. The Tigers aren't going to win many games with defense, but that was true last year too.

I think OK is his ceiling. I dont think he will be a huge embarrassment, but the chances of him being an average defensive 3B is slim. And that may be OK. There are many ways to win baseball games. And having Cabrera playing the field while having another bat DH is most likely a very good way to win ball games

 

[Premier]

I actually think he will be OK at 3rd. His glove is solid. 3rd base is more about quickness than speed, well except for bunts. The Tigers aren't going to win many games with defense, but that was true last year too.

Off the top of my head he was like -30 runs there last time he played the position. That's like 5 wins he's costing the team right there. That was also 3.5 years and 40 pounds ago. He would be, by far, the worst defensive third baseman in the game. Maybe the worse defensive player period. No way they run him out there.

 

[MAC_32]

Leyland will give Miggy every opportunity to play 3rd in Spring Training. If it's not working he'll adjust. As long as Castellanos is on the team Miggy will be destined for LF eventually, but the Tigers will do everything they can to keep Inge out of the every day lineup. If Miggy gets 3rd I doubt Inge breaks camp with the team. If it fails the Tigers have plan B in-house and can blah-toon Inge and Kelly.

I was initially worried about this deal as images of 2008 danced in my head, but since that meltdown already occurred after a big off season I think we'll benefit from it this year. Now my only concern is our x factor is Jhonny Peralta. Who I have never trusted. Get in his head, Jimmy. We need him.

 

[Kubes]

:doublefinger:

 

[igbomb]

I actually think he will be OK at 3rd. His glove is solid. 3rd base is more about quickness than speed, well except for bunts. The Tigers aren't going to win many games with defense, but that was true last year too.

Off the top of my head he was like -30 runs there last time he played the position. That's like 5 wins he's costing the team right there. That was also 3.5 years and 40 pounds ago. He would be, by far, the worst defensive third baseman in the game. Maybe the worse defensive player period. No way they run him out there.

He played something like 15 games there in 2008 to generate those numbers. Talk about a small sample size. The two years preceding that season, he was a -4 to -5 run third basemen. Not good, but not terrible either. If he can post a -10 now, that would be a decent tradeoff.

 

[Da Guru]

I was listening to The Ticket yesterday and the whole show was on how Inge is not happy with the Fielder signing and what is role will be, and he won`t be "The chipper Inge" that everybody is used to seeing. Inge has some major league balls for even opening his mouth..the guy is dam lucky just to be on any MLB roster..let alone whining about playing time. The Tigers should release Inge right now and just go with Kelly at third on the days Cabrera is not playing.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I was listening to The Ticket yesterday and the whole show was on how Inge is not happy with the Fielder singing and what is role will be, and he won`t be "The chipper Inge" that everybody is used to seeing. Inge has some major league balls for even opening his mouth..the guy is dam lucky just to be on any MLB roster..let alone whining about playing time. The Tigers should release Inge right now and just go with Kelly at third on the days Cabrera is not playing.

Even Denny Mclain has something to say to Ingeenny McLain held up an autographed photo of Brandon Inge and showed it to his audience."This was Brandon Inge's last photo before he began whining about his playing time," McLain announced.The former Tigers pitcher drew laughter from 300 guests who attended the Madonna University baseball team's fundraiser Saturday. Inge lost his shot to start last week when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million contract; he will play first base and Miguel Cabrera will move to third.Inge has not commented publicly since the signing was announced, but Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Inge is "not the happiest camper." Before the Fielder signing, Leyland said Inge would platoon with Don Kelly, but Inge responded by saying he was preparing to be the full-time third baseman for the Tigers.McLain said Inge should be excited because the Tigers are a bigger threat to win a title.McLain held the Inge photo up and tossed it to the floor."It's the first time he's hit something in two years," McLain said, to more laughter."This is a wonderful deal," McLain added of the Fielder signing. "You can never be upset about getting a guy that drives in 100 runs and you are a backup to the best hitter in baseball. Now you've got (Fielder) and Cabrera, and it doesn't matter who you put in front or in back of them, they are going to be better hitters because of these two. I suspect Miggy won't be Brooks Robinson at third base, but neither was Brandon Inge."I'd rather have a guy who bats over .300 and drives in 100 runs who boots a few balls or doesn't get to some than a guy who hits .190 and is not contributing offensively in a major way. I would make that trade every day."terry.foster@detnews.com

 

[Da Guru]

I was listening to The Ticket yesterday and the whole show was on how Inge is not happy with the Fielder signing and what is role will be, and he won`t be "The chipper Inge" that everybody is used to seeing. Inge has some major league balls for even opening his mouth..the guy is dam lucky just to be on any MLB roster..let alone whining about playing time. The Tigers should release Inge right now and just go with Kelly at third on the days Cabrera is not playing.

Even Denny Mclain has something to say to Ingeenny McLain held up an autographed photo of Brandon Inge and showed it to his audience."This was Brandon Inge's last photo before he began whining about his playing time," McLain announced.The former Tigers pitcher drew laughter from 300 guests who attended the Madonna University baseball team's fundraiser Saturday. Inge lost his shot to start last week when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million contract; he will play first base and Miguel Cabrera will move to third.Inge has not commented publicly since the signing was announced, but Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Inge is "not the happiest camper." Before the Fielder signing, Leyland said Inge would platoon with Don Kelly, but Inge responded by saying he was preparing to be the full-time third baseman for the Tigers.McLain said Inge should be excited because the Tigers are a bigger threat to win a title.McLain held the Inge photo up and tossed it to the floor."It's the first time he's hit something in two years," McLain said, to more laughter."This is a wonderful deal," McLain added of the Fielder signing. "You can never be upset about getting a guy that drives in 100 runs and you are a backup to the best hitter in baseball. Now you've got (Fielder) and Cabrera, and it doesn't matter who you put in front or in back of them, they are going to be better hitters because of these two. I suspect Miggy won't be Brooks Robinson at third base, but neither was Brandon Inge."I'd rather have a guy who bats over .300 and drives in 100 runs who boots a few balls or doesn't get to some than a guy who hits .190 and is not contributing offensively in a major way. I would make that trade every day."terry.foster@detnews.com

Love it..

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I was listening to The Ticket yesterday and the whole show was on how Inge is not happy with the Fielder singing and what is role will be, and he won`t be "The chipper Inge" that everybody is used to seeing. Inge has some major league balls for even opening his mouth..the guy is dam lucky just to be on any MLB roster..let alone whining about playing time. The Tigers should release Inge right now and just go with Kelly at third on the days Cabrera is not playing.

Even Denny Mclain has something to say to Ingeenny McLain held up an autographed photo of Brandon Inge and showed it to his audience."This was Brandon Inge's last photo before he began whining about his playing time," McLain announced.The former Tigers pitcher drew laughter from 300 guests who attended the Madonna University baseball team's fundraiser Saturday. Inge lost his shot to start last week when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million contract; he will play first base and Miguel Cabrera will move to third.Inge has not commented publicly since the signing was announced, but Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Inge is "not the happiest camper." Before the Fielder signing, Leyland said Inge would platoon with Don Kelly, but Inge responded by saying he was preparing to be the full-time third baseman for the Tigers.McLain said Inge should be excited because the Tigers are a bigger threat to win a title.McLain held the Inge photo up and tossed it to the floor."It's the first time he's hit something in two years," McLain said, to more laughter."This is a wonderful deal," McLain added of the Fielder signing. "You can never be upset about getting a guy that drives in 100 runs and you are a backup to the best hitter in baseball. Now you've got (Fielder) and Cabrera, and it doesn't matter who you put in front or in back of them, they are going to be better hitters because of these two. I suspect Miggy won't be Brooks Robinson at third base, but neither was Brandon Inge."I'd rather have a guy who bats over .300 and drives in 100 runs who boots a few balls or doesn't get to some than a guy who hits .190 and is not contributing offensively in a major way. I would make that trade every day."terry.foster@detnews.com

yikes

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Someone should give Inge some Denny "background info", maybe they can turn this into an all out feud.

 

[igbomb]

I was listening to The Ticket yesterday and the whole show was on how Inge is not happy with the Fielder signing and what is role will be, and he won`t be "The chipper Inge" that everybody is used to seeing. Inge has some major league balls for even opening his mouth..the guy is dam lucky just to be on any MLB roster..let alone whining about playing time. The Tigers should release Inge right now and just go with Kelly at third on the days Cabrera is not playing.

Even Denny Mclain has something to say to Ingeenny McLain held up an autographed photo of Brandon Inge and showed it to his audience."This was Brandon Inge's last photo before he began whining about his playing time," McLain announced.The former Tigers pitcher drew laughter from 300 guests who attended the Madonna University baseball team's fundraiser Saturday. Inge lost his shot to start last week when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million contract; he will play first base and Miguel Cabrera will move to third.Inge has not commented publicly since the signing was announced, but Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Inge is "not the happiest camper." Before the Fielder signing, Leyland said Inge would platoon with Don Kelly, but Inge responded by saying he was preparing to be the full-time third baseman for the Tigers.McLain said Inge should be excited because the Tigers are a bigger threat to win a title.McLain held the Inge photo up and tossed it to the floor."It's the first time he's hit something in two years," McLain said, to more laughter."This is a wonderful deal," McLain added of the Fielder signing. "You can never be upset about getting a guy that drives in 100 runs and you are a backup to the best hitter in baseball. Now you've got (Fielder) and Cabrera, and it doesn't matter who you put in front or in back of them, they are going to be better hitters because of these two. I suspect Miggy won't be Brooks Robinson at third base, but neither was Brandon Inge."I'd rather have a guy who bats over .300 and drives in 100 runs who boots a few balls or doesn't get to some than a guy who hits .190 and is not contributing offensively in a major way. I would make that trade every day."terry.foster@detnews.com

Love it..

I can't stand Inge, but McLain is a much, much bigger piece of #### than Inge could ever dream of being.

 

[Gopher State]

Victor Martinez's knee injury is even worse than originally thought

By Steve Gardner, USA TODAY

Victor Martinez hit .330 with 12 homers and 103 RBI last season for the Detroit Tigers. However, he'll need two separate surgeries to repair damage to his knee and will miss the entire 2012 season.CAPTIONBy Brace Hemmelgarn, US PresswireAny speculation that Detroit Tigers designated hitter Victor Martinez might be able to recover from an offseason knee injury and return in time for the playoffs can officially be put to rest.

The Tigers have announced that Martinez underwent microfracture surgery on "both the medial and lateral meniscus in his left knee on Friday." In addition, Martinez will have a second surgery to reconstruct the ACL in that same knee sometime in the next six-to-eight weeks.

The surgeries will prevent V-Mart from even beginning any baseball-related activities until the 2012 season is almost over.

Martinez suffered the injury when his right foot slipped during a sliding drill and his left knee buckled. "It's kind of like a sock in the gut. You have to be resilient. After you feel sorry for yourself for a day or two, you move on," Tigers president Dave Dombrowski said at the time.

The Tigers certainly did move on -- signing free agent first baseman Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million contract. Fielder will fill the offensive void by providing lineup protection for slugger Miguel Cabrera, but the Tigers' plan to field a defense with Fielder at first base and Cabrera moving to third base has been met with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Wow, didn't think Victor hurt his knee this bad, wishing him the best

 

[scrumptrulescent]

•Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski ruled out the possibility of playing Miguel Cabrera in left field, according to James Schmehl of MLive.com.

Detroit is saying 3B or bust. Rotoworld is saying Miggy will flop at 3rd and it will be a 1B/DH jobshare.

 

[Da Guru]

Victor Martinez's knee injury is even worse than originally thought

By Steve Gardner, USA TODAY

Victor Martinez hit .330 with 12 homers and 103 RBI last season for the Detroit Tigers. However, he'll need two separate surgeries to repair damage to his knee and will miss the entire 2012 season.CAPTIONBy Brace Hemmelgarn, US PresswireAny speculation that Detroit Tigers designated hitter Victor Martinez might be able to recover from an offseason knee injury and return in time for the playoffs can officially be put to rest.

The Tigers have announced that Martinez underwent microfracture surgery on "both the medial and lateral meniscus in his left knee on Friday." In addition, Martinez will have a second surgery to reconstruct the ACL in that same knee sometime in the next six-to-eight weeks.

The surgeries will prevent V-Mart from even beginning any baseball-related activities until the 2012 season is almost over.

Martinez suffered the injury when his right foot slipped during a sliding drill and his left knee buckled. "It's kind of like a sock in the gut. You have to be resilient. After you feel sorry for yourself for a day or two, you move on," Tigers president Dave Dombrowski said at the time.

The Tigers certainly did move on -- signing free agent first baseman Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million contract. Fielder will fill the offensive void by providing lineup protection for slugger Miguel Cabrera, but the Tigers' plan to field a defense with Fielder at first base and Cabrera moving to third base has been met with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Wow, didn't think Victor hurt his knee this bad, wishing him the best

Sliding drill?? That is even worse. I watched many a Tiger game last year and Victor does not go down very often.

 

[MAC_32]

•Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski ruled out the possibility of playing Miguel Cabrera in left field, according to James Schmehl of MLive.com.

Detroit is saying 3B or bust. Rotoworld is saying Miggy will flop at 3rd and it will be a 1B/DH jobshare.

That's the most likely scenario for this year. Next year Delmon Young is a free agent and the organization can re-evaluate Castellanos. If Victor comes back we could be looking at LF Miggy, 1B Prince, DH Victor, 3B Kelly/Castellanos (maybe a free agent place holder for the first couple months?).

 

[Leroy Hoard]

per the freep:

The Detroit Tigers reportedly are one of six teams “the most serious in negotiations” for Cuban defector Yoenis Cespedes.

ESPN baseball analyst and former major league general manager Jim Bowden tweeted Monday night that the Tigers are in the running with the Miami Marlins, Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox and Baltimore Orioles. The sixth team was unnamed by Bowden.

Bowden also tweeted that Cespedes, 26, is expected to travel to the U.S. in the next seven to 10 days for meetings with clubs.

Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski scouted the speedy outfielder in the Dominican Republic in December, but while the Tigers have been linked to him all along, their pursuit figured to have slowed after the team signed Prince Fielder for $214 million.

 

[Gopher State]

The 2012 contract status of key players on the Detoit Tigers (as of Jan. 31):

AdviseAnalytics.com

Under contract

Player: 2012 salary

1B Prince Fielder: $23,000,000

1B Miguel Cabrera: $21,000,000

RHP Justin Verlander: $20,100,000

DH Victor Martinez: $13,000,000

RHP Jose Valverde: $9,000,000

OF Delmon Young: $6,750,000

RHP Joaquin Benoit: $5,500,000

3B Brandon Inge: $5,500,000

SS Jhonny Peralta: $5,500,000

RHP Max Scherzer: $3,750,000

RHP Rick Porcello: $3,100,000

RHP Octavio Dotel: $3,000,000

OF Ryan Raburn: $2,100,000

2B Ramon Santiago: $2,100,000

RHP Jacob Turner: $1,655,194

LHP Phil Coke: $1,100,000

C Gerald Laird: $1,000,000

IF Don Kelly: $900,000

Total: $128,055,194

Not in the yankee payroll league yet, but the Tigers are making progress

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Not in the yankee payroll league yet, but the Tigers are making progress

Did you know that the Twins had a higher opening day payroll than the Tigers in 2011? Tigers are still $80 million behind the Yankees.

 

[Gopher State]

Not in the yankee payroll league yet, but the Tigers are making progress

Did you know that the Twins had a higher opening day payroll than the Tigers in 2011? Tigers are still $80 million behind the Yankees.

I know DD Twins overspent on the M & M boys and they will pay for it for years. If Tigers win big worth every penny, I just not a fan of long term contracts for big $$$$$$$, no one will out do the Yankees, but the Tigers are spending a large amount of $$$ for a midwest team.

 

[Gopher State]

Justin Verlander featured in MLB 2K12 teaser video

By Scott Boeck, USA TODAY

The 2011 American League Cy Young and MVP winner follows Phillies' Roy Halladay (2011) and Rays' Evan Longoria (2010) as the cover athlete.

Justin Verlander helped lead the Tigers to the playoffs last season, going 24-5. CAPTIONBy Carlos Osorio, AP

When he found out about the decision in December, he tweeted: "Got an early xmas present from the team at @2ksports, @MLB_players and @MLB!"

He recently shot a teaser trailer to promote the game, which is expected to launch March 6 and be available for Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Nintendo Wii, PC, DS and PSP.

In the humorous video, Verlander controls the virtual Verlander as he takes on Los Angeles Angels' C.J. Wilson. He gives himself pep talk and describes himself as a tiger and ninja.

Verlander will not be in attendance for the games' launch party due to a scheduling conflict.

He and the Tigers report for the team's first pitchers and catchers workout on Feb. 20, his 29th birthday

 

[meeka]

With Cespedes in Oakland I guess we can move on. I think DD would have loved to add him, but 9 mil is a big number. I think the main reason I was hoping to add him is to open the door for moving Delmon. Oh well.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

 

[Greco]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

they hate me

 

[RnR]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

They're paying him anyway, why not let him kick around a few balls at 2nd before calling it a day?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

 

[SofaKings]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

And now he's the last player to report to camp.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

And now he's the last player to report to camp.

He should report to White Sux camp, we'd have an even bigger advantage.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

And now he's the last player to report to camp.

He should report to White Sux camp, we'd have an even bigger advantage.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

And now he's the last player to report to camp.

That sour little ##### has entitlement issues.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Inge to 2nd base? Wtf. He sucks why can't they just cut his ### and be done with him already?

And now he's the last player to report to camp.

That sour little ##### has entitlement issues.

I'd say he's entitled to a bus ticket to Toledo.

 

[Gopher State]

3B Miguel Cabrera will report to Spring Training at about 265 pounds, roughly 10 above what his goal is as he returns to third base for Detroit to make room for new 1B Prince Fielder. Manager Jim Leyland continues to endorse the move, saying, "The first time he makes an error, people are going to be shaking their heads," Leyland said. "Well, I won't be. I'm willing to live with it, unless it just gets to a point where it's not working." Leyland has been told Cabrera is at 265.

Wow, miggy at 265, he fit on my 27" tv screen

 

[scrumptrulescent]

my 27" tv screen

Whoa, high roller eh? No reason to brag.

 

[SofaKings]

Someone tried to tell me today that since he was the "elder statesmen" of the club, he should be allowed to go out on his terms. I almost threw up.