Nothing for certain, but it seems it will be well into May before we see Fister start for the Tigers. As has been painfully obvious of late, starting pitching has become a sore point. Considering the weak division, take all the time he needs to be ready, but Fister is an essential component to the Tigers if there is going to be any hope at winning some payoff series. IMO, the fourth most important Tiger on the roster.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
I don't have any data, but just based off following the game it seems if pitchers try to return from core injuries in less than 6 weeks something bad usually happens. If he's back before the last half of May I'll be concerned.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
fixedI hope we aren't going to see two months of bad Max like last year, he sucks.
If VMart makes it back in late August, that gives you the best 3 thru 6 lineup in baseball..
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Sox and Indians aren't exactly rolling over yet, though. Sox getting some great pitching (Peavy, Humber), have a great atmosphere with Ozzie gone, and even Dunn is contributing regularly. We had our chance to at least tie up the game in the 8th last night until 2 Ks with Cabrera and Fielder on base. :sigh:
Doctor Detroit
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Why not start Below tonight? Wilk is like the 12th best starter in the system, no reason to run him out there again. If nothing bring up Crosby for a start. Oof.
Doctor Detroit
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The Wilk/Weber dynamic duo doing damage tonight. 
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
They should be taking their act to the minors.The Wilk/Weber dynamic duo doing damage tonight.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Below continues to pitch well.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
you guys are in serious trouble when it comes to the starting rotation. Fister better get back and quick.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Very true. Need Max to step up with a few good starts.
Doctor Detroit
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Fister will be back and Porcello will be fine. Max is always awful at the beginning of the season and Smyly has been good.White Sux can't hit, no need to worry anyway. 
Doctor Detroit
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Terrible. On the bright side they were 12-17 last year and it all worked out fine.
Off to New York, I'll be there with them!
Off to New York, I'll be there with them!
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
The sweep stinks but this may brighten your day....
Doctor Detroit
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The sweep stinks but this may brighten your day....
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Detroit BA .244White Sox BA .249
Doctor Detroit
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So are you trying to make the case that over the course of the year the White Sux will have a better OPS than the Tigers? Would you like to put money on it?Detroit BA .244White Sox BA .249
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Really wasn't commenting on the White Sox bats until you derailed the conversation.So are you trying to make the case that over the course of the year the White Sux will have a better OPS than the Tigers? Would you like to put money on it?Detroit BA .244White Sox BA .249
D in the D
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Right now the White Sux pitching is better than the Tigers pitching. Whether it will be like that as the season progresses, I don't know. Sale is underrated, Humber now very overrated and the rest we've discussed (Peavy being an ace does change the complexion of the team). But you have a guy in your neighborhood in Chicago that is a better pitcher than Adam Wilk, that is not good. With Smyly, Turner and Crosby I think they can bridge the gap but if this is a close race at the trade deadline (which I think it will be), I can see the Tigers trading for a 5th starter. This is with or without the rookie bunch being good. Max just can't be trusted, I thought he would grow up and match his mind with his stuff but it has yet to happen. Porcello? Porcello should be good, I still think this is his bust out year despite the last two outings.Really wasn't commenting on the White Sox bats until you derailed the conversation.So are you trying to make the case that over the course of the year the White Sux will have a better OPS than the Tigers? Would you like to put money on it?Detroit BA .244White Sox BA .249
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Let's keep an eye on a new but important stat: WPAID
(Winning Percentage After Inge Dump)
(Winning Percentage After Inge Dump)
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Don`t feel too bad. Inge is still get paid 5.5 million for this season.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
What.........the...........F?
whoknew
Footballguy
More to it:The Tigers are in New York ahead of a weekend series with the Yankees, and it sounds like it didn't take Delmon Young much time to find some trouble. According to the Post, Young was arrested and charged with third-degree assault after shoving a man to the ground early this morning.
The Post's source says Young was "highly intoxicated" and was taken to the hospital to get sober before being taken to a police station. He remains in custody, so I probably wouldn't pencil him in tonight's lineup.
Update, 10:20 a.m.: The Free Press reports that Young will be charged with aggravated harassment hate crime. Says an NYPD detective, "Basically, there was an incident at the hotel (and) some anti-Semitic remarks."
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
whoknew
Footballguy
I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.Where is he going?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I agree..cut bait right now.I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.
Doctor Detroit
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Oh boy
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I don't understand this thinking at all. The man is on the hook for just one year. He was excellent last year after they got him. Unless it's personal preference, I don't get why you'd want him released.Inge's release made so much sense to me it wasn't funny. Delmon's would not.I agree..cut bait right now.I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.
Doctor Detroit
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Never know with Leyland. Raburn/Dirks platoon maybe, more PT for Kelly as well.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
It would be pretty cool for this kid (no longer a kid) to experience some success in the majors, and boost a slumping team in the process.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
They need to get Rayburns bat going. I would like to see RR get some extra ABs.
whoknew
Footballguy
I disagree with this. He had a .298 OBP last year with the Tigers. That is awful. He is a hacker who is a butcher in the field. MUCH rather have a Dirks/Raburn LF platoon.'scrumptrulescent said:I don't understand this thinking at all. The man is on the hook for just one year. He was excellent last year after they got him. Unless it's personal preference, I don't get why you'd want him released.Inge's release made so much sense to me it wasn't funny. Delmon's would not.'Da Guru said:I agree..cut bait right now.'whoknew said:I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.'scrumptrulescent said:'whoknew said:
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
A Jewish panhandler?? Better get Tim to weigh in on this one.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
He is a hacker that put up 28 R's, 8 HR's, 32 RBI's, and a .274 average in 40 games with Detroit last year. 46 hits to 30 K's. I'll take that all day over a Raburn/Dirks platoon.You tell me how Raburn defensively or offensively is any kind of upgrade. The man had 2 hits yesterday which pulled him back into a triple digit BA.....before then it was .091. He is 6 for 47 so far this year and his OBP is a laughable .212.I disagree with this. He had a .298 OBP last year with the Tigers. That is awful. He is a hacker who is a butcher in the field. MUCH rather have a Dirks/Raburn LF platoon.'scrumptrulescent said:I don't understand this thinking at all. The man is on the hook for just one year. He was excellent last year after they got him. Unless it's personal preference, I don't get why you'd want him released.Inge's release made so much sense to me it wasn't funny. Delmon's would not.'Da Guru said:I agree..cut bait right now.'whoknew said:I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.'scrumptrulescent said:'whoknew said:
I have absolutely no idea why you'd want Dirks/Raburn every day over Delmon.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Miguel, talk to Delmon. He won't listen to us.'Doctor Detroit said:
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Raburn had a .297 OBP last year and Dirks a .296. Raburn is also horrendous defensively. Really none of them are great options.I disagree with this. He had a .298 OBP last year with the Tigers. That is awful. He is a hacker who is a butcher in the field. MUCH rather have a Dirks/Raburn LF platoon.'scrumptrulescent said:I don't understand this thinking at all. The man is on the hook for just one year. He was excellent last year after they got him. Unless it's personal preference, I don't get why you'd want him released.Inge's release made so much sense to me it wasn't funny. Delmon's would not.'Da Guru said:I agree..cut bait right now.'whoknew said:I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.'scrumptrulescent said:'whoknew said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
yikes
whoknew
Footballguy
Fair enough. They suck too.Raburn had a .297 OBP last year and Dirks a .296. Raburn is also horrendous defensively. Really none of them are great options.I disagree with this. He had a .298 OBP last year with the Tigers. That is awful. He is a hacker who is a butcher in the field. MUCH rather have a Dirks/Raburn LF platoon.'scrumptrulescent said:I don't understand this thinking at all. The man is on the hook for just one year. He was excellent last year after they got him. Unless it's personal preference, I don't get why you'd want him released.Inge's release made so much sense to me it wasn't funny. Delmon's would not.'Da Guru said:I agree..cut bait right now.'whoknew said:I am hoping that the Tigers will release him.'scrumptrulescent said:'whoknew said:
Gopher State
Footballguy
Detroit Tigers outfielder Delmon Young apologizes after arrest on harassment charge
Article by: HOWIE RUMBERG , Associated Press
NEW YORK - Detroit Tigers left fielder Delmon Young apologized to his team and fans Friday, just before getting arraigned on a hate crime harassment charge for a fight at his hotel during which police say he yelled anti-Semitic epithets.
Young posted a $5,000 bond at a brief hearing in Manhattan court and was released less than an hour before the Tigers' game against the Yankees. He faces a misdemeanor aggravated harassment charge that entails targeting someone for his or her religious beliefs. If convicted, he could face up to a year in jail.
Wearing a dark suit, Young said nothing during his arraignment.
In a statement, however, Young said: "I sincerely regret what happened last night." He apologized to the Tigers owners and organization, his teammates, family and Detroit fans.
"I take this matter very seriously and assure everyone that I will do everything I can to improve myself as a person and player," Young said.
General manager Dave Dombrowski did not discuss Young's arrest before the game. Tigers spokesman Brian Britten said Dombrowski would talk after he resolved several issues.
Young's jersey hung in his locker in the visitor's clubhouse at Yankee Stadium and his helmet was in the dugout rack Friday afternoon before the Tigers were to play the Yankees, but he was not in the lineup.
"My lineup's up," manager Jim Leyland said tersely when asked if he had to rethink his batting order for the game.
The Tigers arrived in New York at 10:30 p.m. Thursday after their plane sat on the tarmac for 2 hours, 15 minutes in Detroit, according to Leyland.
Around 2:30 a.m., Young was standing outside of the Hilton New York. Nearby, a group of about four Chicago tourists staying at the hotel were approached by a panhandler wearing a yarmulke and a Star of David around his neck, according to police. After, as the group walked up to the hotel doors, Young started yelling anti-Semitic epithets, police said.
It was not clear whom Young was yelling at, but he got into a tussle with the Chicago group, and a 32-year-old man was tackled and sustained scratches to his elbows, according to police and the criminal complaint.
Both Young and the group went inside the hotel, and at some point, police were called, and Young was arrested, police said. Young was first taken to a hospital because he was believed to be intoxicated, police said.
Defense attorney Daniel J. Ollen said accounts of the fight have varied. He said there was video, which he hasn't seen, that showed someone in other group of people said something to Young before the scuffle.
"He clearly reacted to something that was said to him," Ollen said.
Joe Torre, Major League Baseball's executive vice president for baseball operations, visited with Leyland during batting practice but would not speak to the matter.
"We can't comment because we're still gathering information," Torre said.
Young went 0 for 3 with a walk in a 5-4 loss to the Seattle Mariners on Thursday. He is hitting .242 with one home run and five RBIs, is signed to a one-year contract for $6,725,000 and can become a free agent after the season.
In 2006, Young was suspended for 50 games without pay by the International League for throwing a bat that hit a replacement umpire in the chest. Young, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2003 amateur draft, was ejected in the first inning after taking a called third strike. He lingered in the batter's box, walked away and then threw his bat end over end at the umpire, hitting him in the chest.
The Tigers called up Brad Eldred from Triple-A Toledo after Detroit's sixth loss in seven games on Thursday. Eldred was hitting .388 with 13 HRs and 35 RBIs in20 games for Toledo and Leyland indicated that he would see significant time as the designated hitter.
Young is due back in court May 29.
well at least the big D is sorry
Article by: HOWIE RUMBERG , Associated Press
NEW YORK - Detroit Tigers left fielder Delmon Young apologized to his team and fans Friday, just before getting arraigned on a hate crime harassment charge for a fight at his hotel during which police say he yelled anti-Semitic epithets.
Young posted a $5,000 bond at a brief hearing in Manhattan court and was released less than an hour before the Tigers' game against the Yankees. He faces a misdemeanor aggravated harassment charge that entails targeting someone for his or her religious beliefs. If convicted, he could face up to a year in jail.
Wearing a dark suit, Young said nothing during his arraignment.
In a statement, however, Young said: "I sincerely regret what happened last night." He apologized to the Tigers owners and organization, his teammates, family and Detroit fans.
"I take this matter very seriously and assure everyone that I will do everything I can to improve myself as a person and player," Young said.
General manager Dave Dombrowski did not discuss Young's arrest before the game. Tigers spokesman Brian Britten said Dombrowski would talk after he resolved several issues.
Young's jersey hung in his locker in the visitor's clubhouse at Yankee Stadium and his helmet was in the dugout rack Friday afternoon before the Tigers were to play the Yankees, but he was not in the lineup.
"My lineup's up," manager Jim Leyland said tersely when asked if he had to rethink his batting order for the game.
The Tigers arrived in New York at 10:30 p.m. Thursday after their plane sat on the tarmac for 2 hours, 15 minutes in Detroit, according to Leyland.
Around 2:30 a.m., Young was standing outside of the Hilton New York. Nearby, a group of about four Chicago tourists staying at the hotel were approached by a panhandler wearing a yarmulke and a Star of David around his neck, according to police. After, as the group walked up to the hotel doors, Young started yelling anti-Semitic epithets, police said.
It was not clear whom Young was yelling at, but he got into a tussle with the Chicago group, and a 32-year-old man was tackled and sustained scratches to his elbows, according to police and the criminal complaint.
Both Young and the group went inside the hotel, and at some point, police were called, and Young was arrested, police said. Young was first taken to a hospital because he was believed to be intoxicated, police said.
Defense attorney Daniel J. Ollen said accounts of the fight have varied. He said there was video, which he hasn't seen, that showed someone in other group of people said something to Young before the scuffle.
"He clearly reacted to something that was said to him," Ollen said.
Joe Torre, Major League Baseball's executive vice president for baseball operations, visited with Leyland during batting practice but would not speak to the matter.
"We can't comment because we're still gathering information," Torre said.
Young went 0 for 3 with a walk in a 5-4 loss to the Seattle Mariners on Thursday. He is hitting .242 with one home run and five RBIs, is signed to a one-year contract for $6,725,000 and can become a free agent after the season.
In 2006, Young was suspended for 50 games without pay by the International League for throwing a bat that hit a replacement umpire in the chest. Young, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2003 amateur draft, was ejected in the first inning after taking a called third strike. He lingered in the batter's box, walked away and then threw his bat end over end at the umpire, hitting him in the chest.
The Tigers called up Brad Eldred from Triple-A Toledo after Detroit's sixth loss in seven games on Thursday. Eldred was hitting .388 with 13 HRs and 35 RBIs in20 games for Toledo and Leyland indicated that he would see significant time as the designated hitter.
Young is due back in court May 29.
well at least the big D is sorry
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