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[Swing 51]

So is Benoit getting all of the saves?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Great to see VMart continuing his strong hitting.

So DD: There's a family at my church that I'm close to. Dad, mom, and 7 y.o. son are all very avid Sox fans. The 7 y.o. and I have been buddies for years, and now that he's a bit older, we rib each other a bit about the Sox and the Tigers. They all know I'm close to completing a doctoral degree (final stages of the dissertation), and mom called her son over after church today so he could tell me the nickname he has come up with for me - "Dr. Detroit." My first thought was "D_D20," but I would have seriously confused the young boy trying to explain that one.

Haha, awesome. Congrats on completing your doctorate, I thought about it but it just isn't in me.

 

[MAC_32]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else. I actually hope Verlander is hurt, some sort of explanation for how he is pitching would be good. Is he hiding it? Location is the big issue and he seemed to be having release point problems two months ago but now who knows. Walking guys with the bases loaded, allowing no-doubter homers and not striking out guys is very troubling.

Been wary he's hiding an injury all year, he hurt his quad at the end of the last game before the All Star break too. If he needs a DL stint it needs to happen soon.

 

[jon_mx]

So is Benoit getting all of the saves?

Yes....it has been obvious for a while now. Leyland found his man and will ride him for the rest of the season unless he really screws up.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else. I actually hope Verlander is hurt, some sort of explanation for how he is pitching would be good. Is he hiding it? Location is the big issue and he seemed to be having release point problems two months ago but now who knows. Walking guys with the bases loaded, allowing no-doubter homers and not striking out guys is very troubling.

Been wary he's hiding an injury all year, he hurt his quad at the end of the last game before the All Star break too. If he needs a DL stint it needs to happen soon.

Can't teams force players to get MRIs and the like? I'd have to check with dparker but it seems like if you are compensating for an injury, it may cause damage to other things like shoulders and elbows.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

VMART starting to heat up.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else.

Took himself out of the game tonight, ####. This is a guy that plays 160 games a year, not good.

 

[jon_mx]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else. I actually hope Verlander is hurt, some sort of explanation for how he is pitching would be good. Is he hiding it? Location is the big issue and he seemed to be having release point problems two months ago but now who knows. Walking guys with the bases loaded, allowing no-doubter homers and not striking out guys is very troubling.

Been wary he's hiding an injury all year, he hurt his quad at the end of the last game before the All Star break too. If he needs a DL stint it needs to happen soon.

Not hiding anymore....

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else. I actually hope Verlander is hurt, some sort of explanation for how he is pitching would be good. Is he hiding it? Location is the big issue and he seemed to be having release point problems two months ago but now who knows. Walking guys with the bases loaded, allowing no-doubter homers and not striking out guys is very troubling.

Been wary he's hiding an injury all year, he hurt his quad at the end of the last game before the All Star break too. If he needs a DL stint it needs to happen soon.

Not hiding anymore....

He was talking about Verlander, not Cabrera.

 

[tri-man 47]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else.

Took himself out of the game tonight, ####. This is a guy that plays 160 games a year, not good.

The question is, why did they let him go back in the field in the bottom of the 5th? He had just batted that inning, they had a 3-0 lead with Scherzer pitching strong with a low pitch count, and Miggy clearly hurting (seemingly in a new spot ..maybe an oblique?). Nothing to be gained. They should have put Kelly in right then. It bugged me to see the perfect game lost due to a ground ball right by Miggy.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

CHIEF, IT'S MAX!!!!!!

 

[Dan Lambskin]

So no K-Rod

 

[Gopher State]

Cabrera's back is bothering him on top of everything else.

Took himself out of the game tonight, ####. This is a guy that plays 160 games a year, not good.

The question is, why did they let him go back in the field in the bottom of the 5th? He had just batted that inning, they had a 3-0 lead with Scherzer pitching strong with a low pitch count, and Miggy clearly hurting (seemingly in a new spot ..maybe an oblique?). Nothing to be gained. They should have put Kelly in right then. It bugged me to see the perfect game lost due to a ground ball right by Miggy.

Would help extend miggys career if they would let him play 1st or DH once in while. Lots of bumps at 3rd

 

[jon_mx]

Makes no sense. You have to bench VMart or Prince. Ain't gonna happen

 

[jon_mx]

I think the Tigers will get Luke Gregerson in the next couple of days. Will be a good guy to use in the 7th and has some closer experience if need be, although very shaky there

 

[tri-man 47]

I was at the game last night. Once Porcello pitched out of that tough early jam, he was really sharp. I hated to see Al Al give up a couple of walks to start the ninth, leading to the loss of the shutout. The thing I noticed is: Perez is really athletic and really fast. He made an outstanding play at second to get to a grounder in the hole (but pulled Prince off the bag with his off-balance throw), and I thought he had a legit inside the park home run, though they gave the Sox an error for fumbling around a bit with the ball on the warning track.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I was at the game last night. Once Porcello pitched out of that tough early jam, he was really sharp. I hated to see Al Al give up a couple of walks to start the ninth, leading to the loss of the shutout. The thing I noticed is: Perez is really athletic and really fast. He made an outstanding play at second to get to a grounder in the hole (but pulled Prince off the bag with his off-balance throw), and I thought he had a legit inside the park home run, though they gave the Sox an error for fumbling around a bit with the ball on the warning track.

Perez is already better than Ramon, I'd keep Perez and send down Ramon when Infante gets back from rehab just for the upside.

 

[Annyong]

did i see Rondon throw a pitch 102 miles per hour?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Makes no sense. You have to bench VMart or Prince. Ain't gonna happen

VMART is gone after next season.

did i see Rondon throw a pitch 102 miles per hour?

Yes

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I was at the game last night. Once Porcello pitched out of that tough early jam, he was really sharp. I hated to see Al Al give up a couple of walks to start the ninth, leading to the loss of the shutout. The thing I noticed is: Perez is really athletic and really fast. He made an outstanding play at second to get to a grounder in the hole (but pulled Prince off the bag with his off-balance throw), and I thought he had a legit inside the park home run, though they gave the Sox an error for fumbling around a bit with the ball on the warning track.

Perez is already better than Ramon, I'd keep Perez and send down Ramon when Infante gets back from rehab just for the upside.

Yep. Perez also plays SS so I'm not sure it should even be a question. I think he needs more minor league experience and he needs more at bats, but he's a way better option than Santiago at this point in time as a utility IFer. Can be used as a pinch runner, plays both MIF positions, has great range and speed, etc.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Tigers announced (via Twitter) that they have signed Jair Jurrjens to a minor league contract. Jurrjens declined an outright assignment from the Orioles last week, electing free agency instead. He will join Triple-A Toledo on Friday.

The 27-year-old Jurrjens returns to the team that signed him as an international free agent back in 2003 after a lengthy stint with the Braves and a half season in the Orioles organization. Jurrjens was traded from the Tigers to the Braves along with Gorkys Hernandez in exchange for Edgar Renteria in 2007. From 2008-11 with Atlanta, Jurrjens pitched to a 3.34 ERA with 6.3 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 in 671 2/3 innings. He finished third in th 2008 NL Rookie of the Year voting and earned an All-Star berth in 2011.

Following a knee injury, however, Jurrjens has been unable to get his career on track. He's thrown just 55 2/3 innings at the big league level over the past two seasons, posting an unsightly 6.63 ERA. In 94 2/3 innings for Baltimore's Triple-A affiliate this season, Jurrjens posted a 4.18 ERA with 4.9 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

When do they sign Mike Maroth?

 

[teamramrod]

When do they sign Mike Maroth?

don't forget Bondy is available as well....

peace

 

[teamramrod]

The Tigers announced (via Twitter)

sigh.....what is wrong with the world...

peace

 

[teamramrod]

how many more games do we get to play the white suxs?

peace

 

[Doctor Detroit]

When do they sign Mike Maroth?

don't forget Bondy is available as well....

peace

 

[Doctor Detroit]

That's just terrific. You're up 6-1 going to the ninth and Putkonen gives up a homer to the first batter, then Coke comes in to face a lefty and allows a hit. Enter Benoit, awful.

Putkonen needs to be sent down, bring Taco man back up. Coke needs to be sent to bag groceries at Meijers.

 

[tri-man 47]

Yeah, excepting Smyly and Benoit, our bullpen sucks. All sorts of 'fail' the last two games. Thankfully, it's the Sox, and we had enough of a lead to give the guys a shot to do something good without screwing up the wins. Good to see Perez adding a couple more hits.

 

[Kal El]

The Tigers announced (via Twitter) that they have signed Jair Jurrjens to a minor league contract. Jurrjens declined an outright assignment from the Orioles last week, electing free agency instead. He will join Triple-A Toledo on Friday.

The 27-year-old Jurrjens returns to the team that signed him as an international free agent back in 2003 after a lengthy stint with the Braves and a half season in the Orioles organization. Jurrjens was traded from the Tigers to the Braves along with Gorkys Hernandez in exchange for Edgar Renteria in 2007. From 2008-11 with Atlanta, Jurrjens pitched to a 3.34 ERA with 6.3 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 in 671 2/3 innings. He finished third in th 2008 NL Rookie of the Year voting and earned an All-Star berth in 2011.

Following a knee injury, however, Jurrjens has been unable to get his career on track. He's thrown just 55 2/3 innings at the big league level over the past two seasons, posting an unsightly 6.63 ERA. In 94 2/3 innings for Baltimore's Triple-A affiliate this season, Jurrjens posted a 4.18 ERA with 4.9 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9.

I like Jurrjens, but the injury issues are troubling.

 

[MAC_32]

The Tigers announced (via Twitter) that they have signed Jair Jurrjens to a minor league contract. Jurrjens declined an outright assignment from the Orioles last week, electing free agency instead. He will join Triple-A Toledo on Friday.

The 27-year-old Jurrjens returns to the team that signed him as an international free agent back in 2003 after a lengthy stint with the Braves and a half season in the Orioles organization. Jurrjens was traded from the Tigers to the Braves along with Gorkys Hernandez in exchange for Edgar Renteria in 2007. From 2008-11 with Atlanta, Jurrjens pitched to a 3.34 ERA with 6.3 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 in 671 2/3 innings. He finished third in th 2008 NL Rookie of the Year voting and earned an All-Star berth in 2011.

Following a knee injury, however, Jurrjens has been unable to get his career on track. He's thrown just 55 2/3 innings at the big league level over the past two seasons, posting an unsightly 6.63 ERA. In 94 2/3 innings for Baltimore's Triple-A affiliate this season, Jurrjens posted a 4.18 ERA with 4.9 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9.

I like Jurrjens, but the injury issues are troubling.

With Smyly entrenched in the bullpen we're down a legit swing man/6th starter. Hopefully that can be Jair. If long relief is needed because a starter sucked or we're deep into extra innings he can fit. Otherwise, mop up duty only until he proves otherwise.

Like the signing. I missed you, Jair!

 

[Da Guru]

Yeah, excepting Smyly and Benoit, our bullpen sucks. All sorts of 'fail' the last two games. Thankfully, it's the Sox, and we had enough of a lead to give the guys a shot to do something good without screwing up the wins. Good to see Perez adding a couple more hits.

Brian Wilson is holding auditions. Any other pitcher have a track record with 2 Tommy Johns?

 

[Kal El]

The Tigers announced (via Twitter) that they have signed Jair Jurrjens to a minor league contract. Jurrjens declined an outright assignment from the Orioles last week, electing free agency instead. He will join Triple-A Toledo on Friday.

The 27-year-old Jurrjens returns to the team that signed him as an international free agent back in 2003 after a lengthy stint with the Braves and a half season in the Orioles organization. Jurrjens was traded from the Tigers to the Braves along with Gorkys Hernandez in exchange for Edgar Renteria in 2007. From 2008-11 with Atlanta, Jurrjens pitched to a 3.34 ERA with 6.3 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 in 671 2/3 innings. He finished third in th 2008 NL Rookie of the Year voting and earned an All-Star berth in 2011.

Following a knee injury, however, Jurrjens has been unable to get his career on track. He's thrown just 55 2/3 innings at the big league level over the past two seasons, posting an unsightly 6.63 ERA. In 94 2/3 innings for Baltimore's Triple-A affiliate this season, Jurrjens posted a 4.18 ERA with 4.9 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9.

I like Jurrjens, but the injury issues are troubling.

With Smyly entrenched in the bullpen we're down a legit swing man/6th starter. Hopefully that can be Jair. If long relief is needed because a starter sucked or we're deep into extra innings he can fit. Otherwise, mop up duty only until he proves otherwise.

Like the signing. I missed you, Jair!

That's one of the few trades I thought DD screwed up on. Good to see he's back, and if he makes it back to the bigs, he could definitely help the pen.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Yeah, excepting Smyly and Benoit, our bullpen sucks. All sorts of 'fail' the last two games. Thankfully, it's the Sox, and we had enough of a lead to give the guys a shot to do something good without screwing up the wins. Good to see Perez adding a couple more hits.

I like Rondon, I think he's legit and he's worked through his issues unlike Al Al.

Brian Wilson is holding auditions. Any other pitcher have a track record with 2 Tommy Johns?

Not really. Joakim Soria is pitching after his second and he looks decent. Didn't work well for Jose Rios, even after the third and fourth ones (He had it five times IIRC).

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Yeah, excepting Smyly and Benoit, our bullpen sucks. All sorts of 'fail' the last two games. Thankfully, it's the Sox, and we had enough of a lead to give the guys a shot to do something good without screwing up the wins. Good to see Perez adding a couple more hits.

I like Rondon, I think he's legit and he's worked through his issues unlike Al Al.

Al Al could be a mental problem, he seems to be ultra-hyped or moody.

And also forgets sometimes whether he just got strike 3 or strike 2.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

ok, So Verlander blows now? WTF. letting this awful whitesox team pound him?

I wanted a sweep GD it

 

[Doctor Detroit]

They aren't wining the World Series with this Verlander, just sayin'.

 

[tri-man 47]

They aren't wining the World Series with this Verlander, just sayin'.

Meh ...Scherzer, Sanchez, Fister, Porcello. We've got our Big Four. Let Verlander take the Lincecum role.

 

[Da Guru]

Had Verlander not signed before the season started how much impact would his season (so far) have had on the Tigers willing to give the money that they did? Before todays start his numbers were still pretty good..not Verlander good but pretty good. After today his ERA will be over 4.

Would they have done the same? Would they still be talking extension? Would they lowball with a year left? Would they say lets see what happens and give Max the money? Do you think the Tigers wished they waited a year?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

They aren't wining the World Series with this Verlander, just sayin'.

Meh ...Scherzer, Sanchez, Fister, Porcello. We've got our Big Four. Let Verlander take the Lincecum role.

I'd still rank JV slightly ahead of Luke & Phil, but not by much.

 

[Wrigley]

MMMMMMCab back tonight?

 

[MAC_32]

JV's pitching hurt. It happened at the end of the Rangers game and he's not looked the same in his outings since the break. He needs a DL stint, now.

 

[tri-man 47]

Had Verlander not signed before the season started how much impact would his season (so far) have had on the Tigers willing to give the money that they did? Before todays start his numbers were still pretty good..not Verlander good but pretty good. After today his ERA will be over 4.

Would they have done the same? Would they still be talking extension? Would they lowball with a year left? Would they say lets see what happens and give Max the money? Do you think the Tigers wished they waited a year?

Interested to hear what other have to say on this, but I believe it would have had an impact. Scherzer coming into his own, Sanchez justifying his new contract, Fister pitching well, Porcello and Smyly showing good signs ...you have to wonder if they'd have made the big commitment with a solid fleet of arms and some seeds of doubt regarding JV. I hope JV and Prince are still leading the charge and earning their contracts several years from now.

Hopefully this isn't our future, but the Sox continue to talk about dumping salaries - Peavy, Dunn, maybe Rios, maybe more relievers (Crain, if he's healthy). This bodes well for the large number of games remaining against the Sox.

 

[Wrigley]

Had Verlander not signed before the season started how much impact would his season (so far) have had on the Tigers willing to give the money that they did? Before todays start his numbers were still pretty good..not Verlander good but pretty good. After today his ERA will be over 4.

Would they have done the same? Would they still be talking extension? Would they lowball with a year left? Would they say lets see what happens and give Max the money? Do you think the Tigers wished they waited a year?

Interested to hear what other have to say on this, but I believe it would have had an impact. Scherzer coming into his own, Sanchez justifying his new contract, Fister pitching well, Porcello and Smyly showing good signs ...you have to wonder if they'd have made the big commitment with a solid fleet of arms and some seeds of doubt regarding JV. I hope JV and Prince are still leading the charge and earning their contracts several years from now.

Hopefully this isn't our future, but the Sox continue to talk about dumping salaries - Peavy, Dunn, maybe Rios, maybe more relievers (Crain, if he's healthy). This bodes well for the large number of games remaining against the Sox.

Sox are 19 games under .500 and have a run differential of -65.........don't think DET should be worried about them(even with Dunn, Peavy, and Rios)

 

[Da Guru]

Had Verlander not signed before the season started how much impact would his season (so far) have had on the Tigers willing to give the money that they did? Before todays start his numbers were still pretty good..not Verlander good but pretty good. After today his ERA will be over 4.

Would they have done the same? Would they still be talking extension? Would they lowball with a year left? Would they say lets see what happens and give Max the money? Do you think the Tigers wished they waited a year?

Interested to hear what other have to say on this, but I believe it would have had an impact. Scherzer coming into his own, Sanchez justifying his new contract, Fister pitching well, Porcello and Smyly showing good signs ...you have to wonder if they'd have made the big commitment with a solid fleet of arms and some seeds of doubt regarding JV. I hope JV and Prince are still leading the charge and earning their contracts several years from now.

Hopefully this isn't our future, but the Sox continue to talk about dumping salaries - Peavy, Dunn, maybe Rios, maybe more relievers (Crain, if he's healthy). This bodes well for the large number of games remaining against the Sox.

I am not a fan of long term deals that take a player to the 36-40 year old range. The Tigers locked up Cabrera from 25-32 and hisory show that these are usually the most productive seasons of a players career. Of course Cabreras next deal will take him to the 36-40 area.

With Verlander turning 30 and going into this season still signed for two years is was a risk. I think Verlander knew the risk as well...that was why he was talking about "testing the market" with two years to go. Of course everybody including me was thinking..what he he goes 22-5 Ks a ton of hitters and wins another Cy Young.,...then he will never sign with a year to go. This was a game of high priced poker.

 

[Da Guru]

Just heard on MLB that Infante suffered a setback and there is no timetable for his return. Infante says that now he can`t walk without pain in the ankle.

 

[tri-man 47]

Just heard on MLB that Infante suffered a setback and there is no timetable for his return. Infante says that now he can`t walk without pain in the ankle.

Sorry, but ...good. I'd like to see more of what Perez can do.

And that's a very good assessment of JV's situation.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm the biggest Max fan out there, but great Max isn't what great Verlander is. Sorry, they need at least good Verlander to go far IMO.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

1st and third with one out, Ramon and his .161 average stroll to the plate. 3-2 count so they put the hit and run on, strike'em out/throw'em out. I blame Leyland for even having Santiago in the game, on the roster or in the upper Midwest.

 

[teamramrod]

this is why Cabby is MVP...look at us with out him. WAR, compare him to Santiago. has to be like 50

Trout and his fans can S k my

Peace

 

[teamramrod]

does any catcher get beat up more than Avila?

peace