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whoknew said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Can you think of any teams that would trade us a bunch of prospects then sign Max to a 5/125? Would Seattle? Cubs? Angels? I just don't know, seems like it would have to be Max for a current OFer and maybe a prospect or two but it would have to be to a team that needs an ace, and has the money/desire. Would the Yankees do it? I doubt it and I don't think their system can afford to be giving away good players at the minor or major league level.


Agree Castellanos needs to be at 3B. Best scenario for him is a LF platoon next year and then play some 3B throughout the season to stay sharp. That's why a Kubel-type guy makes a lot of sense.
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Fair point. Maybe the Dodgers? They seem to spend money like its going out of style. They have any prospects? Or how about Texas? They need pitching.

I really just want the Tigers to sign Max forever because he's awesome.
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I doubt Texas would be a player in the Scherzer trade market. I know there's no such thing as too much pitching, but starting pitching is not really what the Rangers are lacking. They need a big COF bat and a decent DH. Maybe if they have to trade one of the 5 guys below to get a COF bat then they could be in the market for another starter... but if they do that they might not have the pieces to land someone like Scherzer at that point and have to settle for signing a middle/bottom rotation type guy...

Projected starting rotation for Texas next year Darvish (under control through 2017), Holland (2018), Harrison (2018), Ogando (2016), Perez (2019).

 
Absolutely NOT on Dusty.

I don't normally like having guys who've never managed/coached, but Dave Martinez (TB Bench Coach) and Ausmus would be good candidates.

 
Dombrowski has known since September 7th that Leyland was going to step down. Given this and the fact Leyland will stay in the organization, I think Lloyd will get the gig.

Dombrowski is going to be the commissioner IMO, unless Condi Rice somehow convinces the biggest boy's club in the world that a woman should be out front. Next year is it, window closes and this team gets broken into little pieces.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Dombrowski has known since September 7th that Leyland was going to step down. Given this and the fact Leyland will stay in the organization, I think Lloyd will get the gig.

Dombrowski is going to be the commissioner IMO, unless Condi Rice somehow convinces the biggest boy's club in the world that a woman should be out front. Next year is it, window closes and this team gets broken into little pieces.
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Not so sure...at the presser DD said the all the coaches contracts have expired and that he would not stand in the way of them finding new employment.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Dombrowski has known since September 7th that Leyland was going to step down. Given this and the fact Leyland will stay in the organization, I think Lloyd will get the gig.

Dombrowski is going to be the commissioner IMO, unless Condi Rice somehow convinces the biggest boy's club in the world that a woman should be out front. Next year is it, window closes and this team gets broken into little pieces.
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He looks like a commissioner :wub:

 
11 reasons baseball will miss Jim Leyland

#8 is :moneybag:

I'll miss Leyland, he really did a great job in Detroit and was the right man for the job. What he did in 2006 as we look back, was incredible. That team didn't have a ton of talent outside of Kenny, JV the rookie, Maggs and IRod but they brought good baseball back to Detroit after so many years of Randy Smith and ####ty managers.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
11 reasons baseball will miss Jim Leyland

#8 is :moneybag:

I'll miss Leyland, he really did a great job in Detroit and was the right man for the job. What he did in 2006 as we look back, was incredible. That team didn't have a ton of talent outside of Kenny, JV the rookie, Maggs and IRod but they brought good baseball back to Detroit after so many years of Randy Smith and ####ty managers.
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I think all baseball fans of Detroit will miss Leyland. Leyland is the only manager many people know since many fans have only jumped on since 2006. Heck of few of my friends can`t even name who managed before Leyland because the interest was so low. I really think when Jim came here in 2006 he thought it would be a nice 2 year gig with a team he always wanted to manage..then retire to Perrysburg. All of sudden Maggs is healthy, Verlander comes on the scene, Carbrera.young pitchers and the Tigers are winning. 2 years turned into 8 very good years.

At the presser it seemed like all the other stuff other than the baseball part was wearing Jimmy out.

 
For all the #####ing, Leyland did a bang up job. He put Detroit baseball into relievance. 1989-2005 were Lionesque years for Detroit Tigers baseball. Four 100+ loss seasons. Outside of Cecil Fielder having a few good years, what else positive was there really to remember?

 
So how much is a team's success a function of the manager, and how much is having player talent? How much impact do baseball managers have vs. other major sports? :popcorn:

 
tri-man 47 said:
So how much is a team's success a function of the manager, and how much is having player talent? How much impact do baseball managers have vs. other major sports? :popcorn:
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I don't think anyone has figured out a way to measure that. I suspect baseball managers have less influence than say, football coaches. I mean - with baseball, you kind of just let them play.

Having said that - where I think Leyland excelled was off the field. He seemed great at handling the media, handling all the egos, managing people, etc.

 
jon_mx said:
For all the #####ing, Leyland did a bang up job. He put Detroit baseball into relievance. 1989-2005 were Lionesque years for Detroit Tigers baseball. Four 100+ loss seasons. Outside of Cecil Fielder having a few good years, what else positive was there really to remember?
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Too be fair, most of the #####ing came at the end. Fans know what he did, that really isn't in question.

 
whoknew said:
tri-man 47 said:
So how much is a team's success a function of the manager, and how much is having player talent? How much impact do baseball managers have vs. other major sports? :popcorn:
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I don't think anyone has figured out a way to measure that. I suspect baseball managers have less influence than say, football coaches. I mean - with baseball, you kind of just let them play.

Having said that - where I think Leyland excelled was off the field. He seemed great at handling the media, handling all the egos, managing people, etc.
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Listening to his presser I think that is the part that wore him out.

What is all this Brad Ausmus talk I have been hearing on The Ticket?

 
Da Guru said:
whoknew said:
tri-man 47 said:
So how much is a team's success a function of the manager, and how much is having player talent? How much impact do baseball managers have vs. other major sports? :popcorn:
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I don't think anyone has figured out a way to measure that. I suspect baseball managers have less influence than say, football coaches. I mean - with baseball, you kind of just let them play.

Having said that - where I think Leyland excelled was off the field. He seemed great at handling the media, handling all the egos, managing people, etc.
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Listening to his presser I think that is the part that wore him out.

What is all this Brad Ausmus talk I have been hearing on The Ticket?
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apparently Vegas has made Brad Ausmus the favorite to be the next manager of the Tigers.

sheesh

 
Yet another former catcher & also manager for Israel's World Baseball Classic team.

"Though Ausmus was not drafted until the 48th round of the 1987 draft, he played in MLB longer than any of the 1,150 players drafted ahead of him."

 
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When driving yestersay I was listening to ESPN radio and they were talking MLB and the Tigers-Sox and futures of both teams.

Of course Fielder was brought up. I was not following the Fielder FA status because I thought there is no way the Tigers would want him with Miggy at 1B. It id early Febuary and Fielder had not signed. It seems at that point the price would go down, not up. They were saying that no team offered Fielder more than a 5 year deal in thw 100 range due to concerns about his weight and body type or whatever, They said the Rangers were the only other team that had serious interest..but that was at the 5 year max and around 100. How did it get to 9 years 212 bidding against yourself?

I know hindsight is 20-20 but Beltran would have been a very nice 2-3 option if they were only looking for a bat to replace Victor.

 
Because Illitch wanted Fielder and what rich old men want, rich old men get. Everyone was shocked by the signing and although I still consider Fielder a premium bat, his playoff performances have been atrocious. He does deserve a lot of the credit for Miguel Cabera's numbers these last two years though.

He is the worst 1Bman in the league though, which makes him hard to watch day in and day out. Hopefully he loses some weight in the offseason, even 20-25 pounds. Fattest vegan ever.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Because Illitch wanted Fielder and what rich old men want, rich old men get. Everyone was shocked by the signing and although I still consider Fielder a premium bat, his playoff performances have been atrocious. He does deserve a lot of the credit for Miguel Cabera's numbers these last two years though.

He is the worst 1Bman in the league though, which makes him hard to watch day in and day out. Hopefully he loses some weight in the offseason, even 20-25 pounds. Fattest vegan ever.
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True, people forget that being the Tiger's GM means everything either goes thru the owner or sometimes is even his idea.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Da Guru said:
whoknew said:
tri-man 47 said:
So how much is a team's success a function of the manager, and how much is having player talent? How much impact do baseball managers have vs. other major sports? :popcorn:
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I don't think anyone has figured out a way to measure that. I suspect baseball managers have less influence than say, football coaches. I mean - with baseball, you kind of just let them play.

Having said that - where I think Leyland excelled was off the field. He seemed great at handling the media, handling all the egos, managing people, etc.
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Listening to his presser I think that is the part that wore him out.

What is all this Brad Ausmus talk I have been hearing on The Ticket?
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apparently Vegas has made Brad Ausmus the favorite to be the next manager of the Tigers.

sheesh
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I like it. He's smart - went to Dartmouth.

 
whoknew said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Da Guru said:
whoknew said:
tri-man 47 said:
So how much is a team's success a function of the manager, and how much is having player talent? How much impact do baseball managers have vs. other major sports? :popcorn:
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I don't think anyone has figured out a way to measure that. I suspect baseball managers have less influence than say, football coaches. I mean - with baseball, you kind of just let them play.

Having said that - where I think Leyland excelled was off the field. He seemed great at handling the media, handling all the egos, managing people, etc.
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Listening to his presser I think that is the part that wore him out.

What is all this Brad Ausmus talk I have been hearing on The Ticket?
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apparently Vegas has made Brad Ausmus the favorite to be the next manager of the Tigers.sheesh
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I like it. He's smart - went to Dartmouth.
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Ausmus would be the first Jewish manager since Larry Rothschild helmed the expansion Devil Rays

 
Tim Wallach might get it I guess, not sure what to think of that. I think this team could be the Anaheim Angels of Detroit next year hiring a guy with no major league managerial experience.

 
Detroit Tigers slugger Miguel Cabrera said he'll undergo surgery Tuesday in Philadelphia to repair a tear in his groin that limited his effectiveness during the playoffs.

"Those are decisions you have to make sometimes, if not it affects your future," Cabrera told ESPN Deportes' Enrique Rojas on Sunday. "If not, it could hurt your career and that's what I based my decision on. I consulted with the team and made this decision personally so I could keep playing with the team. I tried to [play hurt] to take advantage of the chance we had in the playoffs, because with so many good teams you never know when a chance like this will come along. It took me eight or nine years to get back in the playoffs and I wanted to be back there and help the team win."

Detroit media reported that the Tigers confirmed the news Sunday night.

Cabrera hit .348 with 44 home runs and 137 RBIs this season, but he was bothered for the last couple of months by a number of injuries. He batted .262 with two home runs in 11 postseason games. Detroit lost to Boston in the AL Championship Series.

Cabrera said he is focusing on making adjustments for next season.

"I don't know anything about the operation, I don't want to know the details, I just hope it heals fast. I am trusting that the doctors can fix the problem," he said. "I have a lot left in me."

General manager Dave Dombrowski said last week that Cabrera was checked by Dr. William Meyers in Philadelphia before the postseason. Cabrera agreed to see Meyers only after the team promised the third baseman he wouldn't be shut down.
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So McCLendon, Renteria, Ausmus and Wallach will all have interviews by tomorrow and Tory Lovullo will likely get one next week.

Since Lloyd interviewed for the Mariners job, and they haven't moved on that, it tells me that they are not sold on him being the manager.

If it's not Lloyd the other four are all pretty much the same. No MLB managerial experience, all highly regarded.

 
Looking forward to Miggy coming back strong. If JV has his form back and Max, Anibal, and Fister are a year older and wiser, it should be another great year, particularly if the team gets some early answers for the bullpen.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
So McCLendon, Renteria, Ausmus and Wallach will all have interviews by tomorrow and Tory Lovullo will likely get one next week.

Since Lloyd interviewed for the Mariners job, and they haven't moved on that, it tells me that they are not sold on him being the manager.

If it's not Lloyd the other four are all pretty much the same. No MLB managerial experience, all highly regarded.
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Tory Lovullo?

sheesh

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Doctor Detroit said:
So McCLendon, Renteria, Ausmus and Wallach will all have interviews by tomorrow and Tory Lovullo will likely get one next week.

Since Lloyd interviewed for the Mariners job, and they haven't moved on that, it tells me that they are not sold on him being the manager.

If it's not Lloyd the other four are all pretty much the same. No MLB managerial experience, all highly regarded.
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Tory Lovullo?

sheesh
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Salvatore Anthony "Torey" Lovullo.

 
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