Offseason LT trade value thread (1 Viewer)

[comfortably numb]

There was a lot of good talk in the LT 08 dropoff thread.

I wanted to gage the off season value of LT.

As I think this may be the year that LT is a wild card for most people as a top pick.

Many people will have a bad taste after his last couple of games in the playoffs.

Some may pass him up even at 1.2, with some talk of SJAX and Peterson going ahead of him.

So from a dynasty perspective I wanted to see what people were getting/giving for LT this offseaon.

Please post any trades involving LT.

LT owners will you be looking to deal him, thinking the drop off is coming?

LT seekers, are you smelling a chance to pick up LT as cheap as possible in the last few years?

 

[Riffraff]

Please post any trades involving LT.

Trade occurred November 17th. Dynasty league, 14 teams. Non PPR.Taylor, Fred JAC RBTomlinson, Ladainian SDC RBWright, Dwayne BUF RBPorter, Jerry OAK WRforBarber, Marion DAL RBJohnson, Rudi CIN RBGinn Jr., Ted MIA WR

 

[Banger]

Please post any trades involving LT.

Trade occurred November 17th. Dynasty league, 14 teams. Non PPR.Taylor, Fred JAC RBTomlinson, Ladainian SDC RBWright, Dwayne BUF RBPorter, Jerry OAK WRforBarber, Marion DAL RBJohnson, Rudi CIN RBGinn Jr., Ted MIA WR

wow. That's just awful.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

got one in the works now

LT &

reggie brown or vjackson

for

Gore

S.Smith (car)

Dallas Clark

and #4 overall

 

[comfortably numb]

Please post any trades involving LT.

Trade occurred November 17th. Dynasty league, 14 teams. Non PPR.Taylor, Fred JAC RBTomlinson, Ladainian SDC RBWright, Dwayne BUF RBPorter, Jerry OAK WRforBarber, Marion DAL RBJohnson, Rudi CIN RBGinn Jr., Ted MIA WR

Thanks,Wow, seems low for LT, albeit I am not very high on barber

 

[Banger]

Please post any trades involving LT.

Trade occurred November 17th. Dynasty league, 14 teams. Non PPR.Taylor, Fred JAC RBTomlinson, Ladainian SDC RBWright, Dwayne BUF RBPorter, Jerry OAK WRforBarber, Marion DAL RBJohnson, Rudi CIN RBGinn Jr., Ted MIA WR

Thanks,Wow, seems low for LT, albeit I am not very high on barber

To me it wouldn't make sense to trade him for less than a top 5 rb (which I don't consider Barber to be) and a top wr, plus maybe a bit more. I don't consider Barber a top 5 back and Rudi isn't worth much more than Taylor at this point. Tedd Ginn, who knows?

 

[humphrp]

I am an LT owner and have been approached with the following trade.

I trade LT

I receive 1.01 and Ben Rothlisberger.

I do think that it is the time to start thinking hard about offers for LT. He still has a few good years in him but I'm not sure if much more than that. I see some Barry Sanders in him (might be that I am reading a book on Sanders and am a fan of both) and wonder if he could one day walk away. This trade is the only one that I have out that intrigues me. It gives me youth at QB and RB as I would use 1.01 for McFadden as a replacement for LT.

 

[moderated]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

 

[moderated]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

 

[Banger]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

agreed Gore has like what one good season? horrible line, another new OC.LT is worth alot more than moderated thinks

 

[flat_earth]

LT/Caddy for MJD/Colston. 12 Team, PPR Dynasty.

 

[moderated]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

agreed Gore has like what one good season? horrible line, another new OC.LT is worth alot more than moderated thinks

LT is worth a lot less than his owners think.So his true value probably lies in between.

 

[moderated]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

Straight up i'd take LT as well, but no one in their right mind would give Gore + top 10 WR + top 10 TE + top 5 rookie pick. That's absurd.

 

[Anjin-san]

not to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

I'm assuming you mean WITHOUT Delhomme.Even then, look at the splits for Smith last year:Weeks 1,2,15-17 (full games from Delhomme and Matt Moore): 37 receptions, 528 yards, 5 TDs (prorated over 16 weeks you get 118/1,690/16)Weeks 3-14 (Delhomme for part of week 3, garbage at QB the rest of the time): 50 receptions, 474 yards, 2 TDsDelhomme is only 33. He should be good for a couple more years. Moore seems to be an adequate backup. Smith is easily a top 10 WR in '08 I think. It's really underestimated just how bad David Carr and a 45-year old Testaverde are.That said, I think Smith makes the trade completely lopsided. LT for Gore/Clark/1.4 is fair I think.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

Straight up i'd take LT as well, but no one in their right mind would give Gore + top 10 WR + top 10 TE + top 5 rookie pick. That's absurd.

he didnt take it yet, still working on it

 

[duece2626]

not to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

not to mention Steve Smith withOUT Delhomme is practically worthless

fixed.love the typo police around here

 

[Banger]

got one in the works nowLT &reggie brown or vjackson for GoreS.Smith (car)Dallas Clarkand #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/valuenot to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

Straight up i'd take LT as well, but no one in their right mind would give Gore + top 10 WR + top 10 TE + top 5 rookie pick. That's absurd.

That's a lot but it depends on rosters, rules, etc.

 

[switz]

Please post any trades involving LT.

Trade occurred November 17th. Dynasty league, 14 teams. Non PPR.Taylor, Fred JAC RBTomlinson, Ladainian SDC RBWright, Dwayne BUF RBPorter, Jerry OAK WRforBarber, Marion DAL RBJohnson, Rudi CIN RBGinn Jr., Ted MIA WR

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Team AAA gave up Maroney, Laurence NEP RB;Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR;Gates, Antonio SDC TE; rookie pick 8

Team BBB gave up Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB;Clark, Dallas IND TE

~~~~~~~~

10 team league, 1/2 ppr for WRs/TEs only

Fitz has 2 yr contract, Maroney 3 yr

I think Team AAA overpaid, but not insanely. Maroney can be a RB1 or a RB3, who knows? Fitz is money, as is Gates... but pick 8 is a WR, and I think rookie WRs are totally hit and miss. It's hard to give a max contract to a rookie WR that had a typical mediocre rookie season.

ETA: LT has probably been the most traded stud in my league. He's been on 6 or 7 teams, some of them more than once. Crazy.

 

[duece2626]

not to mention Steve Smith withOUT Delhomme is practically worthless

fixed.love the typo police around here

Typo police? I thought you were serious!!

 

[mozzy84]

got one in the works now

LT &

reggie brown or vjackson

for

Gore

S.Smith (car)

Dallas Clark

and #4 overall

Who in the world would give up that much for LT?Gore is arguably as valuable straight up, and then someone is going to throw in a top 10 WR, top 10 TE, and the #4 rookie pick.

This would be one of the worst trades i've seen in some time.

ssshhhhh Im working on itand Gore isnt anywhere near LT's class/value

not to mention Steve Smith with Delhomme is practically worthless

due to LT's age and wear and tear i don't really think he is clearly more valuable than any of the top 5-6 guys anymore. Personally i'd rank him a hair over Gore for dynasty purposes.Obviously you feel it's a great trade for you, but i highly doubt the other party will do that deal.

LT/garbage for Gore/Steve Smith/Clark/+ a guy like Mendenhall or Felix Jones. If the other party does it i'd rank it among the worst 5 dynasty trades i've ever seen (assuming this is a respectable dynasty league), and that's saying a lot since i've seen some doozies.

As an LT owner, there's no way I trade him straight up for Gore.

Straight up i'd take LT as well, but no one in their right mind would give Gore + top 10 WR + top 10 TE + top 5 rookie pick. That's absurd.

he didnt take it yet, still working on it

he not completely wasted yet?

 

[Val Rannous]

I've been considering making an offer (in a keep 3 league, not dynasty) of LT for an additional player protect spot (which would be assigned to MJD) and the #1 overall pick in the draft (which would probablly be Darren McFadden)

Val

 

[NorrisB]

this trade just happened in a league where no ppr to rbs but ppr to wrs start 2 rbs 3wrs 1 flex

LT

2nd rounder about 20th overall

Colston

McGahee

I think the LT seller won that one

 

[fantasyplayer]

I've been considering making an offer (in a keep 3 league, not dynasty) of LT for an additional player protect spot (which would be assigned to MJD) and the #1 overall pick in the draft (which would probablly be Darren McFadden)Val

As an LT owner, that's the type of deal I'm trying to do in my Keep 4 league. I'm targeting Addai, Lynch or MJD and a first round pick.

 

[hitmenssharpshooters]

8 team Keeper

Keep 2 Veterans and 1 Rookie(previous draft)

I have LJ,LT,Jamal Lewis,Laurence Maroney and B Edwards to consider.

I traded LT and Greg Olsen(rookie) for M Lynch and 2007 rookie draft pick 1.04(rookie draft is during NFL draft in April).

This means I could keep LJ,Maroney/Edwards/J Lewis and M Lynch

as opposed to

LT/LJ/Greg Olsen

Trying to shake it up a little..also a little bit worried about age/recent injury/wear.

 

[JPeso]

Do you guys state to everyone he is available on a league message board-type thing? Or send out your own offers?

Would you take Gore/Palmer for LT, even if you have Hass, Favre, Delhomme at QB?

 

[Gravity]

I was offered Westbrook+Owens for LT/Garbage in a dynasty league.

I thought long and hard...but passed

 

[Arm Chair Express]

I got W. Parker and the 1.1 rookie pick for him.

 

[KellysHeroes]

seems like a great yr to go after him...

 

[VaCatFan]

Trade in a 14 team dynasty league around week 9/10

Vince Young, LT2

for

Marshawn Lynch, James Jones, 2008 pick 1st rounder (became pick 7), 2008 pick 1st rounder (became pick 13), and 2008 2nd round pick (became pick 27)

 

[Banger]

Do you guys state to everyone he is available on a league message board-type thing? Or send out your own offers?Would you take Gore/Palmer for LT, even if you have Hass, Favre, Delhomme at QB?

always look at other teams rosters and shoot out emails, ask what they're looking for, inquire about guys. It might not result in a deal right then but nearly every year feelers I send out on a few players I like end up resulting in trades weeks later (often after said player has had 2-3 average games).

 

[bigmurd]

I sent Rice, Palmer and 1.03 for LT2, Alex Smith and 2.02 (12 team ppr).

I have TO and Andre Johnson heading up my WR core and ADP and LT2 as RB's 1 & 2 - couldn't resist the prospect of that.

I am banking on LT2 having 2 top 5 years left in the tank.

 

[Jedimaster21]

Do you guys state to everyone he is available on a league message board-type thing? Or send out your own offers?Would you take Gore/Palmer for LT, even if you have Hass, Favre, Delhomme at QB?

When you want to shop a player, it is always a good idea to make it public knowledge. I usually don't include my value of the player unless I want to get a deal done quickly and don't have time to negotiate. This strategy allows you to get multiple offers, and use them to create a bidding war on a player. It is like anything else you are selling...whether a car, house, or FF. Get as many offers as possible, and take the best one.

 

[bollocks28]

I think the real story of this thread is how much value people are placing on Colston...

I own both (LT and Colston) and if the other members of my league placed half as much value in Colston as some of you do he would most certainly have been traded long ago. Don't get me wrong I'm happy with Colston... just not THAT happy.

 

[crazy gadget]

Traded:

LT

Lee Evans

Received:

ADP

Gore

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Traded:LTLee EvansReceived:ADPGore

W.O.W.

 

[spec1alk]

 

[Mr. Black]

Trade happened on April 16th 2008. 12 Team Dynasty

Team A gave up Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB;Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB;Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE

Team B gave up Brees, Drew NOS QB;Johnson, Larry KCC RB; Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.04; Year 2009 Round 1 Draft Pick from Texas Boyz

I'm not high on L.J. or L.T. but I like the trade much better for Team A. I think L.T. is getting to that stage in his career when its time to start cutting some of his regular season touches trying to keep him fresh for the playoffs. I think the Chargers passing games will be better this year plus the backups will see a few more touches. i think this may be the year L.T. misses the top 5. Edit to add this is a non PPR league but TE's receive .5 per reception.

 

[kylechoffman]

I gave up LT, Foster and the 2.7 to the Gore owner for Jacobs, Calvin Johnson and the 1.2 back in march. I own D Williams and the 1.1 in the rookie. I held onto turner and sproles and we get pts for return yds, no pts for receptions.

 

[Gravity]

Seems a lot of LT for Gore trades.

Here's another:

Essentially LT for Gore+Late 1st round rookie

 

[faulkfan]

seems like a great yr to go after him...

This is also a great year to trade him.LT is at that magical point in his career where he holds a lot of value for his owners because he still has tread left on his tires. He is also a great value to those trading for him because his owners know his expiration date is closing in on us. I think that right now we'll see realistic trades for LT where the sides are closer in their assessment of what he is worth. Trading him can really produce a win/win situation, which doesn't happen much when a player of LTs caliber gets dealt.

 

[Lash]

LT

Plaxico

Croyle

for

Portis

Marshall

1.10

 

[Lash]

as for the rest of this thread...

LT>>Gore

 

[Buckna]

seems like a great yr to go after him...

This is also a great year to trade him.LT is at that magical point in his career where he holds a lot of value for his owners because he still has tread left on his tires. He is also a great value to those trading for him because his owners know his expiration date is closing in on us. I think that right now we'll see realistic trades for LT where the sides are closer in their assessment of what he is worth. Trading him can really produce a win/win situation, which doesn't happen much when a player of LTs caliber gets dealt.

I agree with this. Maybe in an odd league or 2 you can still get a king's ransom for LT, but in most you are going to have to take less that what some people consider "fair value." The days of getting 2 starting RB's plus a WR or QB in return are way behind. On the other side of the coin, if you are competing now, it's a good time to trade for LT to put your team over the top.I think LT may very well have another 3 to 4 top years in him, but there is a lot of risk. The moment he falters his value will plummet just like Shaun Alexander's did. If your team is not a competitor now and is mediocre to bad, I would be shopping him or at the start of the season when his value will go up a little bit.I traded him away in the only league I had him because I didn't have much around him, I limped into the playoffs last year as a wildcard and that was due to the strength of waiver wire guys like Derrick Ward and Grant helping to contribute to my squad.

 

[Spike]

Traded:LTLee EvansReceived:ADPGore

W.O.W.

What he said!

 

[massraider]

LTPlaxicoCroylefor PortisMarshall1.10

Love that deal for the Portis owner.

 

[spec1alk]

I gave up LT, Foster and the 2.7 to the Gore owner for Jacobs, Calvin Johnson and the 1.2 back in march. I own D Williams and the 1.1 in the rookie. I held onto turner and sproles and we get pts for return yds, no pts for receptions.

I think you sold a little low, but not much. Would have liked to see a better RB than Jacobs in the deal, but I think getting CJ2 was a good move.