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Ok, now i agree fire Andy Reid (2 Viewers)

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you give up 200 yds rushing, havent stopped the saints all year, and you punt to them with only 2 TO's left. That has to be one of the worst decisions i've ever seen in 25 years of watching foosball.

i defended him earlier this year, but not after that

 
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I am still in shock over the absolute stupidity over that call... I almost cannot believe I witnessed such a moronic, suicidal call in my entire life.

 
i wish i was back in philly tonight so i could hear 610 rip into AR...once again, AR gets out coached in a big game. can we just make him the GM so his choking doesnt cost the eagles any more games

 
Terrible decision. Couldn't stop the run all day on defense... but converted several long passes on offense.

You do the math.

 
I was shaking my head when I saw the punting unit come on the field. Worst case is they fail to convert, but that still gives them a chance to hold the Saints to a FG and get the ball back (down by 6). And you just completed a 15 yard pass (that was called back) so how do you punt? Horrible call. McAllister was averaging 7 yards a carry at this point. No way do I give the ball up. I try a hard count, some trickery, and run 15 yard pass plays to TRY and win this game.

 
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Absolutely shocking decision. Garcia had completed a long pass downfield on the 4th down play that was negated by a penalty so they clearly had a shot to convert even if it was going to be difficult. The bottom line is the Saints had run it down the Eagles' throats all game long so there was no reason to believe the defense could hold them. Reid had to go for it on fourth down and I'm astonished that he chose to punt. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

 
The sad part of all of this is that AR is a great coach when it comes to drafting, evaluating talent, designing plays, etc, etc, etc... For some reason, it seems like in the 4th quarter of big games, he is possessed by the spirit of Rich Kotite. You'd think a guy who obviously is that good at eating wouldnt choke as much as he does.

ETA: 4th and 20 freaking 6 anything is possible when you have the ball

 
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Garcia did not complete a long pass down field. That play never occurred apparently. It was a false start, that means the play is instantly stopped ... oh wait

 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.

 
I'm guessing 90% of the viewing audience KNEW the game was over when Reid decided to punt.

Top 5 in Worst Calls of All-Time.

 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Sure he did...but where did that get the eagles? Just more traditional Philly Phalse Hope. Tony Dungy was a great coach too, but the Bucs never won anything til they got rid of him. I say give him one more year to prove his idiocy, s***can him, and then hire Cowher.
 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Sure he did...but where did that get the eagles? Just more traditional Philly Phalse Hope. Tony Dungy was a great coach too, but the Bucs never won anything til they got rid of him. I say give him one more year to prove his idiocy, s***can him, and then hire Cowher.
After calming down from the loss you will see what a good job Reid did this year. Be careful what you wish for, because who they get to replace him could be worse than you think.
 
I'm guessing 90% of the viewing audience KNEW the game was over when Reid decided to punt.Top 5 in Worst Calls of All-Time.
Closer to 99% Unbelievable that he punted the game away.Andy goes for it there and does not make it..How could you question it with only two TOs left?
 
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Here's my question...

WHY did he go for it on 4th and 21 against the Packers in the playoffs a few years ago, but not today?

Remember that Packers game... that was awesome.

 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Sure he did...but where did that get the eagles? Just more traditional Philly Phalse Hope. Tony Dungy was a great coach too, but the Bucs never won anything til they got rid of him. I say give him one more year to prove his idiocy, s***can him, and then hire Cowher.
After calming down from the loss you will see what a good job Reid did this year. Be careful what you wish for, because who they get to replace him could be worse than you think.
No, i'm pretty calm right now and if you search for the fire AR post from when McNabb went down, i was defending AR. But, its just very obvious to me right now that the Eagles will always be pretty good, but not great under AR. I would trade AR for Cowher or Jeff Fisher any day of the week
 
I didnt like the series of play calls when the eagles had a second and one the last time the were down near the goal line, and had to settle for a field goal. They tried to get fancy with a screen to westy, and a bootleg right that got snuffed out pretty easily by the Saints D. Just ram it straight ahead and get the first down. I think that is what really hurt them.

 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Sure he did...but where did that get the eagles? Just more traditional Philly Phalse Hope. Tony Dungy was a great coach too, but the Bucs never won anything til they got rid of him. I say give him one more year to prove his idiocy, s***can him, and then hire Cowher.
:thumbup: ;) :lmao: Why? So we can wait 15 years for Cowher to bring one home? It was a dumb call...probably AR's worst call since he was the coach in Philly. But I'll tell you this...No other coach in Philly history, and quite possibly no other coach in the NFL today, EVEN GETS PHILLY INTO THIS GAME after what they went through this year.
 
Here's my question...WHY did he go for it on 4th and 21 against the Packers in the playoffs a few years ago, but not today?Remember that Packers game... that was awesome.
The funny thing about that is the goat from that game was Sherman for punting when he should have ran.
 
Every coach makes bad gaming strategy decisions. I don't know why. It should be easy. But they do. Andy Reid is much better than most. He is one of the top coaches in the NFL, and pound for pound is still in the top half.

 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Sure he did...but where did that get the eagles? Just more traditional Philly Phalse Hope. Tony Dungy was a great coach too, but the Bucs never won anything til they got rid of him. I say give him one more year to prove his idiocy, s***can him, and then hire Cowher.
:thumbup: ;) :lmao: Why? So we can wait 15 years for Cowher to bring one home? It was a dumb call...probably AR's worst call since he was the coach in Philly. But I'll tell you this...No other coach in Philly history, and quite possibly no other coach in the NFL today, EVEN GETS PHILLY INTO THIS GAME after what they went through this year.
You're kidding right? JJ is the reason the Eagles went 5-0 down the stretch. The offense did barely enough to win most of those games. It was the improved D that got most of those W's. As for AR being the best in philly history...well, isnt that like being the best US Soccer player ever? who cares.
 
I'm just glad I'm not a Philly fan. I can't recall the last time I witnessed such stupidity by a head coach. Just about every person watching the game knew it was a grave error to punt there. I'm trying to think of the last time someone made such a stupid decision.

Anyone help me with this? When is the last time someone made such a stupid decision in their life? I'm still cracking up about this one.

 
I think that Andy Reid gets a bit overwhelmed at crunch time and that punting was a huge mistake. I also think that he has trouble putting teams away... ( but I did criticize Payton in NO for the same thing....as he seemed to be more concerned with running down the clock with 8+ in the fourth and up by 3 instead of trying to score again). That being said, he wasn't even supposed to win this game.....

 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Sure he did...but where did that get the eagles? Just more traditional Philly Phalse Hope. Tony Dungy was a great coach too, but the Bucs never won anything til they got rid of him. I say give him one more year to prove his idiocy, s***can him, and then hire Cowher.
:wub: :kicksrock: :sadbanana: Why? So we can wait 15 years for Cowher to bring one home? It was a dumb call...probably AR's worst call since he was the coach in Philly. But I'll tell you this...No other coach in Philly history, and quite possibly no other coach in the NFL today, EVEN GETS PHILLY INTO THIS GAME after what they went through this year.
If my math is correct you have not won a superbowl in the last 15 years. Granted Reid did do a good job this season with the his star QB down. But to say you would not want cowher over Reid is tough on the eyes. And this comming from a Steeler hater.
 
Gotta love the irony of a Philly fan calling for Andy Reid's head to hire Bill Cowher.

If the Rooney family would have fired Cowher when he couldn't bring home a title the first decade he was in Pitt...the Steelers probably would not have won the title last year. Andy Reid is a great NFL head coach and deserves more time to get a trophy to the Philly faithful. It's not easy after a playoff loss but quit eating your own and realize what a great organization he has helped build. Eventually he will win a title for you.

 
Gotta love the irony of a Philly fan calling for Andy Reid's head to hire Bill Cowher.If the Rooney family would have fired Cowher when he couldn't bring home a title the first decade he was in Pitt...the Steelers probably would not have won the title last year. Andy Reid is a great NFL head coach and deserves more time to get a trophy to the Philly faithful. It's not easy after a playoff loss but quit eating your own and realize what a great organization he has helped build. Eventually he will win a title for you.
you are obviously not a philly fan, or from philly, or close to anyone from philly. He's just good enough to give false hope to the fans. In 2-3 years, McNabb will be over the hill (if not next year), their D will be WAY past its prime, if its not already, and Westbrook will be 30. And then its right back to the normal M.O. for a philly sports team...just ask the flyers....or sixers...or phillies
 
I didnt like the series of play calls when the eagles had a second and one the last time the were down near the goal line, and had to settle for a field goal. They tried to get fancy with a screen to westy, and a bootleg right that got snuffed out pretty easily by the Saints D. Just ram it straight ahead and get the first down. I think that is what really hurt them.
VERY :goodposting: You are correct sir!This is where the Igles truly lost the game. If they hadn't gotten cute they would have had a 1st and goal inside the 5. They SHOULD HAVE taken the lead and perhaps won the game. Horrible play calling by Philly. I guess you can always play the what if game, but IF the Igles have the lead and IF Bush still fumbles that HB pitch in the last 3-4 minutes...Well, IF that happens then now we'ld be talking about Bush's choke job instead of Andy Reid's.
 
Gotta love the irony of a Philly fan calling for Andy Reid's head to hire Bill Cowher.If the Rooney family would have fired Cowher when he couldn't bring home a title the first decade he was in Pitt...the Steelers probably would not have won the title last year. Andy Reid is a great NFL head coach and deserves more time to get a trophy to the Philly faithful. It's not easy after a playoff loss but quit eating your own and realize what a great organization he has helped build. Eventually he will win a title for you.
you are obviously not a philly fan, or from philly, or close to anyone from philly. He's just good enough to give false hope to the fans. In 2-3 years, McNabb will be over the hill (if not next year), their D will be WAY past its prime, if its not already, and Westbrook will be 30. And then its right back to the normal M.O. for a philly sports team...just ask the flyers....or sixers...or phillies
No, I am not. After a playoff loss it is difficult to see what good things are going on with your team (trust me, I was a fan on the other end of that 4th and 26th play).Look no further than your man Cowher. His team that lost in the Super Bowl to the Cowboys featured Pro-Bowlers Dermontti Dawson (ol), Kevin Greene (lb), Carnell Lake (db), Greg Lloyd (lb), Yancey Thigpen (wr) and Rod Woodson (db) as well as Neil O' Donnell at QB. How many of these players were there last year for the Super Bowl win?My point is great coaches and organizations are more important than any one player. Andy Reid is an asset to the Eagles and firing him would be a big mistake.
 
you give up 200 yds rushing, havent stopped the saints all year, and you punt to them with only 2 TO's left. That has to be one of the worst decisions i've ever seen in 25 years of watching foosball.i defended him earlier this year, but not after that
BS. Defense has to make the stop. A run up the middle 3 times in a row, you knew it was coming and they couldn't stop them. I honestly think punting, getting the ball back and trying to get the fg will work more times than a 4th and 15. They opted to go against the onskide kick against the pats in the superbowl and got the ball back, and that wasn't exactly a great rushing defense either. This is after the fact over reaction, the fact that it's even debatable makes sure it's not the sorst decision in 25 years. It couldn't be because Payton pitched the ball to Bush and they fumbled. That was beyond bad. Navy did it against BC in a bowl game this year, and it was an incredibly bonehead move. Multiply that x100 for making that decision in an NFL Playoff Game.
 
Here's my question...WHY did he go for it on 4th and 21 against the Packers in the playoffs a few years ago, but not today?Remember that Packers game... that was awesome.
I'm guessing the game would have been sealed with a punt, which wasn't the case tonight.Also he didn't have FredEX anymore
 
This game not withstanding, I think Reid was very instumental in keeping the ship afloat when McNabb went down. They could have packed it in, but Reid kept the troups believing they could win. Kudos to Reid's coaching this year IMO.
Very True, I don't think any other coach or system gets this team into the playoffs post Mcnabb injury. Let's hope Mcnabb comes back healthy next year, because their offensive philosphy changed dramatically after his injury. If they call the runs and have a more balanced philosophy again next year, Mcnabb and the Eagles should have a very succesful season
 
I'm guessing 90% of the viewing audience KNEW the game was over when Reid decided to punt.Top 5 in Worst Calls of All-Time.
Closer to 99% Unbelievable that he punted the game away.Andy goes for it there and does not make it..How could you question it with only two TOs left?
I'm not an Eagles fan, I don't care about them in any way, my playoff fantasy team is stocked with Saints so I wanted them to win...and even I was bothered by that decision. Your team never showed any ability to stop McAllister and in a best case scenario you get the ball back with no timeouts and about a minute left. Why punt the ball? They played their hearts out all game, converted a few big plays, just made a 4th-and-10 that was called back, the Saints D wasn't doing anything special, Garcia has the ability to run, your RB is a great pass-catcher and it's crunch time on the road. YOU ALREADY HAVE THE BALL! Why give it away and hope to get it back?Really, I didn't get it then, and I don't now. All I can say is that it's a pressure situation and if they had gotten the ball back, maybe he'd look like a genius. I guess that's your best chance to keep it a FG game. He really is a good coach. But that was definitely a questionable call.
 
Typical Eagles game this season. The game comes down to a couple of pivotal plays, most of which go in the other team's favor.

I thought the game was over when Reid elected to kick the field goal down 27-21. Inside the 10, I say go for it. At worst, the Saints have lousy field position and a good defensive stand gets the Eagles favorable field position. The Saints were moving the ball too well to settle for a FG.

The plays that crushed me were the fumble we couldn't recover at midfield and a really weak looking illegal contact on Dhani Jones that negated a sack. That and I thought Jamaal Brown could have been called for holding on almost every play I saw.

 
Typical Eagles game this season. The game comes down to a couple of pivotal plays, most of which go in the other team's favor.I thought the game was over when Reid elected to kick the field goal down 27-21. Inside the 10, I say go for it. At worst, the Saints have lousy field position and a good defensive stand gets the Eagles favorable field position. The Saints were moving the ball too well to settle for a FG. The plays that crushed me were the fumble we couldn't recover at midfield and a really weak looking illegal contact on Dhani Jones that negated a sack. That and I thought Jamaal Brown could have been called for holding on almost every play I saw.
I tried to tell all the mo fo's on this board, Saints are for real and deserve credit. I read all this nonsense of fixed games and all that #### and think it is alot of bull####. Eagle fans take the loss with dignity. The Eagles played a good game but came up short. Give credit where credit is due and get ready (while you watch the Saints next week) for next year. I believe even more. Geaux Saints. PS. If the games were fixed they were fixed by a computer or something, you just dont FIX 16 games and a Divisional matchup without anyone noticing.The HOT TEAM has been cooled for at least 8 months. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH (posted in other thread)
 
I don't know why that decision was so shocking to people. It's been apparent for quite some time that Reid is one of the worst, if not THE worst, clock management coaches in the entire league. The Sports Guy hit the nail on the head when he said that Andy Reid should hire somebody just to be a clock management guy and stand next to him all game for these type of decisions.

Reid does a lot of things really well, but his clock management is terrible. At least Garcia has helped that aspect a bit when he has played though. McNabb calls a lot of timeouts early in halves when he sees something he doesn't like in the defense or he gets confused by the defense. It's not uncommon for the Eagles to get into the 4th quarter with just one timeout remaining. And Andy Reid with just one timeout if the game is close is like asking an average 3 year old to do Calculus.

 
Here's my question...WHY did he go for it on 4th and 21 against the Packers in the playoffs a few years ago, but not today?Remember that Packers game... that was awesome.
I'm guessing the game would have been sealed with a punt, which wasn't the case tonight.
You are correct. If the Eagles had punted in that GB game, the game was over. GB could have ran the clock out. He had to go for it then. As for last night, horrible decision. The percentages were low either way, but you had to at least give your offense a chance. Not picking up any yards on 2nd or 3rd down is what ultimately killed that drive. No way should Reid be fired, though.
 
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80-48 regular season record

Eagles have gone to the playoffs 6 out of 8 seasons

8-6 in playoffs including a trip to the super bowl

Eagles lose on the road to the #2 seed in the NFC by 3 points without their starting QB

Yep, Reid should be fired. :goodposting:

 
80-48 regular season recordEagles have gone to the playoffs 6 out of 8 seasons8-6 in playoffs including a trip to the super bowlEagles lose on the road to the #2 seed in the NFC by 3 points without their starting QBYep, Reid should be fired. :yes:
:shock: This guy has brought you all to the playoffs virtually every year. How many other fans can say that of their team? The coorelations to Cowher are uncanny, but given enough shots in the playoffs, he's destined win a few for you. Just enjoy the ride. If you're having trouble, just go back to the years under Ray Rhodes with Rodney Peete as your QB. There. Better?
 
I hope he gets fired. Then I hope Al Davis can find an escape clause and recoup his soul from hell. Then, I would like to see Al Davis hire the Mormon coach and hark the herald angels sing.

I'd take AR as a head coach for my team any day.

 
80-48 regular season recordEagles have gone to the playoffs 6 out of 8 seasons8-6 in playoffs including a trip to the super bowlEagles lose on the road to the #2 seed in the NFC by 3 points without their starting QBYep, Reid should be fired. :unsure:
Couldnt agree more, the stupidity on this board baffles me some times. I really dont think its that horrible of a call. It is questionable for sure. However if you dont make it the game is over with out question. If you punt you at least have a chance with your two time outs and almost two mins on the clock. Prior to that call the Saints last two possessions resulted in a 3 and out and a fumble. The Eagles didnt lose this game because of AR's decision to punt, they lost the game because of 3 penalties that were crucial to the game. Ohh and Shawn Andrews watching the second half of the game from the hospital didnt help much either.
 
I don't know why that decision was so shocking to people. It's been apparent for quite some time that Reid is one of the worst, if not THE worst, clock management coaches in the entire league. The Sports Guy hit the nail on the head when he said that Andy Reid should hire somebody just to be a clock management guy and stand next to him all game for these type of decisions. Reid does a lot of things really well, but his clock management is terrible. At least Garcia has helped that aspect a bit when he has played though. McNabb calls a lot of timeouts early in halves when he sees something he doesn't like in the defense or he gets confused by the defense. It's not uncommon for the Eagles to get into the 4th quarter with just one timeout remaining. And Andy Reid with just one timeout if the game is close is like asking an average 3 year old to do Calculus.
:shrug: Best post in this thread, as an anti Eagle fan in the heart of Eagle country I have been telling all the people around my area this for years. He does a lot of things right but he also costs his team more opportunities and games then any other head coach with stupid moves. And all you giving cedit to Andy for the great job he did without McNabb, that was more Marty taking over the play calling and the defense stepping up then Reid. Reid would be an awesome GM, but he is lacking something as a coach.
 

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