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Osama Bin Laden DEAD (MERGED THREAD) (1 Viewer)

Question for Doctor Detroit and/or others closer to the action: Would getting Al-Zawahiri (or however that fat Egyptian doctor spells his name) be a more significant blow? From what little I know, it seems like he's been the power behind the throne, and while OBL was essential for raising money and being the face of AQ, Al-Zawahiri seems to be the "brains" of the operation.

TIA

 
'Red Forman said:
'Arizona Ron said:
Great job Obama :thumbup:
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:lmao: He didnt do ####..
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he begs to differ.
And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.
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'Doctor Detroit said:
'bueno said:
Am I the only one who wonders where Osama's bodyguards were? I can't fathom only five people killed: Osama, his son, a human shield and two couriers. Seems strange to me there weren't more people there to defend him.
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Operational security footprint maybe. The less people, the better. He couldn't leave the compound so I guess I don't understand why he wasn't bunking with a family or two. I would imagine he had done that before so as to make it seem like the compound was normal, ho hum. Some conversations in the Pakistan thread about this very thing. In the end he probably got to the point where he thought if the U.S. caught up with him, they were gonna kill him if there were 500 people there. I think more information will come out, maybe about where he has been the past ten years. I think watching that trail would be fascinating.
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It better involve some ####### caves!
 
President Obama personally chaired a half-dozen National Security Council meetings on the extremely classified intelligence in recent weeks, U.S. officials said, culminating in his Friday orders to proceed with the operation that killed Bin Laden.

Awesome & Win.

 
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.

 
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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I understand where you're coming from here, but this really is a major victory/accomplishment for us as a nation. I don't think people are being inappropriate in viewing it that way.
 
'Red Forman said:
'Arizona Ron said:
'Red Forman said:
'Arizona Ron said:
Great job Obama :thumbup:
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:lmao:He didnt do ####..
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Clinton started going after Bin Laden during his years in office and Obama finished the job. Clearly Bush didn't take Bin Laden as serious as Clinton and Obama.
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Clinton let him go! Do your homework! SA had him, and asked Clinton if we wanted him, and Clinton said.., NO!
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So Clinton let him go, but Obama didn't do anything in killing him. That's really what you're going with?
 
'IvanKaramazov said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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I understand where you're coming from here, but this really is a major victory/accomplishment for us as a nation. I don't think people are being inappropriate in viewing it that way.
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I agree. With both of you. It's kind of a lowering of standard to cheer for someones death. But I can't help but blink back the tears. Raw emotion of seeing that human piece of garbage disposed of. We all should remember 9/11 and put in the taped documentaries and books. Feel the power of the beaten down, ashen police officers and firefighters. Relive the pain. And then tell me you don't feel tears of joy that Bin Laden is dead. No one is celebrating in the streets, but if this is what justice feels like, well it feels damn good! And I won't apologize to anyone for feeling that way.
 
Interesting.... From CNN:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/?hpt=T1

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/?hpt=T1http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/?hpt=T1A U.S. government official tells CNN that DNA matching is underway on the samples from the body of Osama bin Laden. The matching has not been completed, but there are photographs of the body with a gunshot wound to the side of the head that shows an individual that is not unrecognizable as bin Laden.No decision has yet been made on whether to release the photographs and if so, when and how.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/?hpt=T1
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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/?hpt=T1 :mellow:

ETA:

It seems the 2am blog report explains how they came to the conclusion it is bin laden:

Updated, 2:31 a.m. ET] U.S. officials said they used facial imaging and other methods to identify the body of Osama bin Laden.

One official said it was clear to the assault force that the body matched bin Laden's description, but they used "facial recognition work, amongst other things, to confirm the identity."

A senior national security official said that they had multiple confirmations that the body was bin Laden, saying they had the "ability to run images of the body and the face."

The national security official would not confirm if DNA testing was performed.
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'Raiderfan32904 said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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I understand where you're coming from here, but this really is a major victory/accomplishment for us as a nation. I don't think people are being inappropriate in viewing it that way.
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I agree. With both of you. It's kind of a lowering of standard to cheer for someones death. But I can't help but blink back the tears. Raw emotion of seeing that human piece of garbage disposed of. We all should remember 9/11 and put in the taped documentaries and books. Feel the power of the beaten down, ashen police officers and firefighters. Relive the pain. And then tell me you don't feel tears of joy that Bin Laden is dead. No one is celebrating in the streets, but if this is what justice feels like, well it feels damn good! And I won't apologize to anyone for feeling that way.
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Umm, yeah, they are.
 
From Peter King's MMQB...

News of NFL draft takes a backseat to news of bin Laden's death

Peter King

SI.com

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- The NFL can wait. Osama bin Laden is dead.

Amazing sitting here in the early hours of this morning, after hearing President Obama announce the death of al Qaeda kingpin Osama bin Laden, the man we've been trying to find for almost 10 years, ever since the plot to fly planes into buildings changed our way of life on Sept. 11, 2001. Ten years. And what an eerie end. While the world was following the Royal Wedding in England on Friday, Obama was giving the orders to have Navy Seals swoop into the bin Laden compound and take out bin Laden at all costs. The attack, on Sunday, took 44 minutes from start to finish, CNN reported, and ended with the Seals carrying bin Laden's body out with them.

It was fascinating to be up all night and to see and feel the upshot of it. Reporter Jim Forman of KING5-TV in Seattle was on a Delta flight with TV and Internet and sent this tweet at 11:18 p.m.: "9/11 widow on my flight. In tears. Comforted by entire cabin. Life altering event to see.'' College campuses and city streets erupted in celebration; a photo from Penn State showed thousands in downtown State College. The front page of this morning's Chicago Sun-Times floated around Twitter, a close-up of bid Laden's face, with the word "DEAD'' across the bottom.

Smarter people than I will write today about what it means. I don't have anything deep on that, other than this: We kept our word. We said we were going after bin Laden and wouldn't stop until we found him. It took a decade, but we did it, and I'm so proud of the men and women who have done their part to defend our country and find bin Laden.

It's really been a remarkable 10 years, years that changed our lives. I don't just mean by how much of a pain air travel's become either. I mean, and not to be corny, we've gained (I think) more of an appreciation for living in this country. I was living in New Jersey on Sept. 11, 2001, 15 miles from Ground Zero, when the first Twin Tower went down. I got in the car and sped to the New Jersey Blood Center in West Orange, 10 minutes from my house. There was a line a city-block long winding out of the building already to give blood that, alas, was never needed. Talk about getting goose bumps.

A few days later, my daughter Mary Beth, a sophomore on the Montclair High field hockey team, and I went in search of American flag patches to put on all frosh, JV and varsity field hockey jerseys. None in Jersey. But we found a dank, tiny sewing shop in Chinatown, in Manhattan, and picked up 150 flags patches for the uniforms. On the way back to the car, for no reason and for every reason, Mary Beth said, "I love America.'' Talk about getting goose bumps.

Mayor Giuliani was asking citizens to please support the restaurants of the city, because people were afraid to come into the city, fearful of another attack. So my wife and I organized a party of 16 to come into the city 10 days after the attack for dinner at Carmine's in midtown. At the table next to us were 15 Buffalo firefighters, all taking vacation time to work at Ground Zero. When they rose to leave -- they paid for nothing that night -- one person at our table started clapping. Then we all did. Then we stood. Then the entire restaurant stood, clapping and whistling and slapping the firefighters on the back. A few of them dabbed at their eyes. Talk about getting goose bumps.

In 2005, on my training-camp trip through the Midwest, I met Mike McGuire, the Army first sergeant, at a baseball game in St. Louis. We just happened to be sitting next to each other, struck up a conversation, and found he was home on leave from finding and disarming improvised explosive devices in Iraq. Whoa.

"Aren't you scared?'' I asked.

He said he tried not to think of that. He had 30 men to be mother-hen to in his platoon. Amazing guy. We watched the game, marveled at Pujols, exchanged contact information, and said goodbye. Two days later, I opened the paper and read about 14 Marines dying in an IED explosion in Iraq. I called McGuire and asked about the 14 dead Marines; when he reads things like that, is he scared for his safety?

"Mostly I read about how it happened and try to learn something about how to stop it,'' he said. "If I think about the victims, well, that doesn't help me do my job.''

Goose bumps, again.

In 2008, I accompanied a USO group of players to Afghanistan. I'll never forget flying from Kazakhstan, north of the country, over the northeastern area of Afghanistan into Kabul. Seventy, eighty, a hundred miles of mountainous, treacherous, untouched, snowy terrain. On and on we flew. "Do you think Osama's down there, somewhere, hiding?'' I wondered. One of the pilots said he might be, so they had to keep looking. And then meeting the Army Ranger snipers late one night in some barracks in Kandahar, staying up very late hearing the story of how they mowed down 75 Taliban forces on their most recent sortie. When Mike Rucker and Luis Castillo went back to their room, they lay in their bunks and talked excitedly about the night.

"The way they're excited to talk to us is the way we're excited to talk to them,'' said Rucker. "I wish I could do what they're doing, but I can't. I'm like a fan around those guys.''

"You see how intrigued they were by us?'' said Castillo. "How cool is that? The way they talk about being in a gunfight and just doing their jobs without panicking ... amazing.''

"If I didn't play football, I always knew the military was an option,'' said Rucker. "Now I know how much I would have loved it. Ask the guys on my team -- every time they do a flyover before the game, you can see how emotional I get.''

"Priceless,'' Castillo said in the dark, before drifting off to sleep. "That was a priceless night.''

Goose bumps.

It's been a decade none of us will forget. This morning doesn't bring a happy ending, exactly. It brings some new world that we can't be sure of yet, because clearly al Qaeda will be furious over bin Laden's death and we'll have to deal with renewed threats. But we did what we said we'd do, and that's always a good thing. I hope the families of the 9/11 victims in Manhattan and elsewhere have a better day today than they've had in years.
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'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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I understand where you're coming from here, but this really is a major victory/accomplishment for us as a nation. I don't think people are being inappropriate in viewing it that way.
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I agree. With both of you. It's kind of a lowering of standard to cheer for someones death. But I can't help but blink back the tears. Raw emotion of seeing that human piece of garbage disposed of. We all should remember 9/11 and put in the taped documentaries and books. Feel the power of the beaten down, ashen police officers and firefighters. Relive the pain. And then tell me you don't feel tears of joy that Bin Laden is dead. No one is celebrating in the streets, but if this is what justice feels like, well it feels damn good! And I won't apologize to anyone for feeling that way.
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Umm, yeah, they are.
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I felt this way at first, like "celebrating" was wrong or weird but then I remember all the jackoffs in the middle east out celebrating after the WTC attacks. F-em.Part of me also feels good that we aren't "so p.c." that we still have these emotions in us.

 
'Jefferson the Caregiver said:
'Christo said:
'Limp Ditka said:
'Rayderr said:
'Limp Ditka said:
Killed a week ago by a US Bombing.....
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Figures Obama would delay this news until it has the most political benefit to him.
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10:30 on a Sunday Night? :confused:
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:lmao:
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To be fair, Celebrity Apprentice was airing at that time.
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Just trying to stick it to Trump....though he must not really "know his enemy" or he'd know no one really watches Trump any more. Big whiff by Obama here.
 
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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Well goofy college hippies rub me the wrong way... That said... i have no problem celebrating his death. In fact, im throwing a cookout/party to celebrate it this weekend.
 
'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Umm, yeah, they are.
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Not here. Must be a local thing.
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This is what I'm referring to. Nobody's dancing on the streets outside my office right now or anything.
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I would expect some sort of celebration. And there will always be some Yeeay-hoos that will go over the top (accho..teaparty..choo) guzendheit. But at least we don't have flag burning parties and molotov coctail riots like they do over there when they blow up our skyscrapers.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Umm, yeah, they are.
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Not here. Must be a local thing.
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This is what I'm referring to. Nobody's dancing on the streets outside my office right now or anything.
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I would expect some sort of celebration. And there will always be some Yeeay-hoos that will go over the top (accho..teaparty..choo) guzendheit. But at least we don't have flag burning parties and molotov coctail riots like they do over there when they blow up our skyscrapers.
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You think the Tea Party is going to be having over the top celebrations because their sworn enemy killed their other sworn enemy?
 
'Rayderr said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Umm, yeah, they are.
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Not here. Must be a local thing.
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This is what I'm referring to. Nobody's dancing on the streets outside my office right now or anything.
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I would expect some sort of celebration. And there will always be some Yeeay-hoos that will go over the top (accho..teaparty..choo) guzendheit. But at least we don't have flag burning parties and molotov coctail riots like they do over there when they blow up our skyscrapers.
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You think the Tea Party is going to be having over the top celebrations because their sworn enemy killed their other sworn enemy?
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Navy Seals are the tea parties sworn enemy. *Noted.

 
'Rayderr said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Umm, yeah, they are.
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Not here. Must be a local thing.
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This is what I'm referring to. Nobody's dancing on the streets outside my office right now or anything.
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I would expect some sort of celebration. And there will always be some Yeeay-hoos that will go over the top (accho..teaparty..choo) guzendheit. But at least we don't have flag burning parties and molotov coctail riots like they do over there when they blow up our skyscrapers.
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You think the Tea Party is going to be having over the top celebrations because their sworn enemy killed their other sworn enemy?
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No, because they are stupid rednecks.
 
'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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I understand where you're coming from here, but this really is a major victory/accomplishment for us as a nation. I don't think people are being inappropriate in viewing it that way.
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I agree. With both of you. It's kind of a lowering of standard to cheer for someones death. But I can't help but blink back the tears. Raw emotion of seeing that human piece of garbage disposed of. We all should remember 9/11 and put in the taped documentaries and books. Feel the power of the beaten down, ashen police officers and firefighters. Relive the pain. And then tell me you don't feel tears of joy that Bin Laden is dead. No one is celebrating in the streets, but if this is what justice feels like, well it feels damn good! And I won't apologize to anyone for feeling that way.
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Umm, yeah, they are.
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Obama probably sent them out to dance in order to mock the middle east countries when something bad happens to us. Let me go check Faux news to be sure. Hannity should have that script just about finished for tonight's broadcast. It's either that or ignore this news and focus on gas prices.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Rayderr said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Umm, yeah, they are.
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Not here. Must be a local thing.
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This is what I'm referring to. Nobody's dancing on the streets outside my office right now or anything.
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I would expect some sort of celebration. And there will always be some Yeeay-hoos that will go over the top (accho..teaparty..choo) guzendheit. But at least we don't have flag burning parties and molotov coctail riots like they do over there when they blow up our skyscrapers.
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You think the Tea Party is going to be having over the top celebrations because their sworn enemy killed their other sworn enemy?
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No, because they are stupid rednecks.
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This and the fact that they aren't going to support anything that this administration accomplishes.
 
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'Sinn Fein said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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:goodposting:
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IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. A :coffee: type response if you will. But I understand the celebration, though I don't really understand the audience celebrating. I get the soldiers, military etc. I understand those that lost loved ones in the tragedy. The rest, not so much. I for one am glad this chapter is closed, but I'm not jumping up and down out in the streets over it.
 
'The Commish said:
'Sinn Fein said:
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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:goodposting:
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IMO, I think the better way to go is act as if it's business as usual. A :coffee: type response if you will. But I understand the celebration, though I don't really understand the audience celebrating. I get the soldiers, military etc. I understand those that lost loved ones in the tragedy. The rest, not so much. I for one am glad this chapter is closed, but I'm not jumping up and down out in the streets over it.
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Americans haven't had much to cheer about lately. Who can blame people for celebrating good news for a change? I thought it was terrific.
 
'Tiny Dancer said:
Anybody else a little creeped out by all the celebratory stuff and the USA! USA! chants? I think it's great that the guy is dead and everything, but something about the way people have reacted is rubbing me the wrong way.
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This. And can the usual suspects (you know who you are) PLEASE knock off the gay-### partisan political slap-fight BS? I'm amazed some of you have the attention span to turn every thread you enter into an attack on (INSERT OTHER PARTY HERE). It's annoying. Grow up.
 
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