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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (4 Viewers)

Alright dammit.  Birthday and Super Bowl in the books.  I am now officially 43.  I weighed in this morning at 198.2    Which is great and it sucks.  Great in that my weight has normally been between 210 and 220 for my adult life.  Sucks in that I'm stuck here between 195 and 200 for a couple months.  

I am going to focus on simply logging every single thing I eat and staying under 40 carbs per day.  My problem has been that I've been doing lazy keto.  Not Keto.  So I need to track it.  On the other hand, my workouts and strength have increased.  I'm doing a modified stronglifts program.  Instead of squats I am doing a bodyweight progression.  You think you are strong?  Try shrimp squats.  I am doing 5x5 progression on those now, and I am getting closer to not assisting me with a chair.  

Bench numbers on a bowflex aren't even close.  Apparently I am benching 260.  Riiiiiight.  More like 135-150 I'm thinking.  

My daughter did just win a three month YMCA membership too.  So I will be adoptining the straightforward stronglifts routine soon.  The one exercise I can't really mimic at home is the deadlift.  

 
Sabertooth said:
Alright dammit.  Birthday and Super Bowl in the books.  I am now officially 43.  I weighed in this morning at 198.2    Which is great and it sucks.  Great in that my weight has normally been between 210 and 220 for my adult life.  Sucks in that I'm stuck here between 195 and 200 for a couple months.  

I am going to focus on simply logging every single thing I eat and staying under 40 carbs per day.  My problem has been that I've been doing lazy keto.  Not Keto.  So I need to track it.  On the other hand, my workouts and strength have increased.  I'm doing a modified stronglifts program.  Instead of squats I am doing a bodyweight progression.  You think you are strong?  Try shrimp squats.  I am doing 5x5 progression on those now, and I am getting closer to not assisting me with a chair.  

Bench numbers on a bowflex aren't even close.  Apparently I am benching 260.  Riiiiiight.  More like 135-150 I'm thinking.  

My daughter did just win a three month YMCA membership too.  So I will be adoptining the straightforward stronglifts routine soon.  The one exercise I can't really mimic at home is the deadlift.  
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Shrimp squats are good but don't really work the same chain as a back squat.  I've always heard them called skater squats as they were really first popularized by Tony in the P90x series.  

If you have a bad lower back and can't do some of the bigger lifts it's a good option.  If you can't manage a skater then just do a bulgarian split squat.  It's for all intent the same movement and easier to execute and add weight to.

5x5 to me is the ultimate cutting routine.  I literally cannot eat enough to keep weight on doing that program.  It gets to the point that I quit 5x5 because I am literally sick of eating and pooping all day long.  

 
culdeus said:
Shrimp squats are good but don't really work the same chain as a back squat.  I've always heard them called skater squats as they were really first popularized by Tony in the P90x series.  

If you have a bad lower back and can't do some of the bigger lifts it's a good option.  If you can't manage a skater then just do a bulgarian split squat.  It's for all intent the same movement and easier to execute and add weight to.

5x5 to me is the ultimate cutting routine.  I literally cannot eat enough to keep weight on doing that program.  It gets to the point that I quit 5x5 because I am literally sick of eating and pooping all day long.  
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When you cut, what does your macro split look like?  My main goal is cutting another 30 lbs of fat from my frame.  What would you recommend in terms of exercise and macro for the next 90 days for me.  You seem like pretty much the smartest fitness dude on here tbh and I value your opinion.  

The reason I've done the bodyweight progression is lack of gym membership and time.  I am focusing on killing credit card debt out of my life for good and every nickel is going towards that.  I figured the bodyweight legs progression was  a decent approximation of the squat.  Not perfect but to be honest I am more interested in the release of hormones triggered by the squats.  

 
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Sabertooth said:
When you cut, what does your macro split look like?  My main goal is cutting another 30 lbs of fat from my frame.  What would you recommend in terms of exercise and macro for the next 90 days for me.  You seem like pretty much the smartest fitness dude on here tbh and I value your opinion.  
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Workout routines are going to vary greatly by your experience level and other factors.  5x5 or SS are always going to be my first choice to suggest for damn near anyone.  If you have extra time you can do accessories on the off days or cardio on the off days until it gets so heavy that you need the rest day.  Once you have to deload on squats twice IMO you need to make a change.  To what depends on your time budget and how far you got on 5x5.

(Warning: Broscience) If I'm trying to bulk I eat carbs all day long, if I'm trying to cut I eat carbs only in the 2 hour window before/after lifting.  

5x5 and SS are both cutting routines in my mind because they are total body every day.  You can cut on splits and bulk on 5x5 but nutrition has to be on point and I'm not able to manage it.    

If at home and you have dumbells and a bench and no heavy equipment and need a video to watch then I always point people to sagi's stuff on beachbody.  

 
Have you looked into Ketogains at all?  I guess the beauty of the keto diet to me is the lack of hanger.  I just don't get do a point where I need food immediately.  Of course the tradeoff is the bore of eating meat and cheese all the time.  

 
Sabertooth said:
Alright dammit.  Birthday and Super Bowl in the books.  I am now officially 43.  I weighed in this morning at 198.2    Which is great and it sucks.  Great in that my weight has normally been between 210 and 220 for my adult life.  Sucks in that I'm stuck here between 195 and 200 for a couple months.  

I am going to focus on simply logging every single thing I eat and staying under 40 carbs per day.  My problem has been that I've been doing lazy keto.  Not Keto.  So I need to track it.  On the other hand, my workouts and strength have increased.  I'm doing a modified stronglifts program.  Instead of squats I am doing a bodyweight progression.  You think you are strong?  Try shrimp squats.  I am doing 5x5 progression on those now, and I am getting closer to not assisting me with a chair.  

Bench numbers on a bowflex aren't even close.  Apparently I am benching 260.  Riiiiiight.  More like 135-150 I'm thinking.  

My daughter did just win a three month YMCA membership too.  So I will be adoptining the straightforward stronglifts routine soon.  The one exercise I can't really mimic at home is the deadlift.  
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Did you try any of the plateau hacks we talked about?

 
Sabertooth said:
Have you looked into Ketogains at all?  I guess the beauty of the keto diet to me is the lack of hanger.  I just don't get do a point where I need food immediately.  Of course the tradeoff is the bore of eating meat and cheese all the time.  
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I would call my diet basically Primal from the Mark Sisson approach.  85/15 more or less.

B: 2 Eggs some berries a meal replacement shake - Maybe 1000 calories total here with 55-60gP and 20gC some fat.

L: Varies, can be leftovers from dinner or a big *** salad. More than a pound of veg, some lean protien or fish and dressing. - Maybe another 800cals

S: Often take another meal replacement shake after a workout - 600cals up to 2000 cals if really pushing

Dinner 1: Eat with kids whatever they are having, green veg, lean protein, beans, rice etc - 600 cals

Dinner 2: Eat with wife later usually protien with veg, or soup, or stir fry veg only - another 500 cals

Booze - Maybe a glass of wine or 2 - whatever 300ish

Try to range in the 3500-4500 cals a day might push to 6000 if I can, but never can hit it.

Currently weigh at 172@~13%. Goal is 185@16% then back to 175 at 11%. 

 
culdeus said:
I would call my diet basically Primal from the Mark Sisson approach.  85/15 more or less.

B: 2 Eggs some berries a meal replacement shake - Maybe 1000 calories total here with 55-60gP and 20gC some fat.

L: Varies, can be leftovers from dinner or a big *** salad. More than a pound of veg, some lean protien or fish and dressing. - Maybe another 800cals

S: Often take another meal replacement shake after a workout - 600cals up to 2000 cals if really pushing

Dinner 1: Eat with kids whatever they are having, green veg, lean protein, beans, rice etc - 600 cals

Dinner 2: Eat with wife later usually protien with veg, or soup, or stir fry veg only - another 500 cals

Booze - Maybe a glass of wine or 2 - whatever 300ish

Try to range in the 3500-4500 cals a day might push to 6000 if I can, but never can hit it.

Currently weigh at 172@~13%. Goal is 185@16% then back to 175 at 11%. 
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How tall are you?

 
culdeus said:
I would call my diet basically Primal from the Mark Sisson approach.  85/15 more or less.

B: 2 Eggs some berries a meal replacement shake - Maybe 1000 calories total here with 55-60gP and 20gC some fat.

L: Varies, can be leftovers from dinner or a big *** salad. More than a pound of veg, some lean protien or fish and dressing. - Maybe another 800cals

S: Often take another meal replacement shake after a workout - 600cals up to 2000 cals if really pushing

Dinner 1: Eat with kids whatever they are having, green veg, lean protein, beans, rice etc - 600 cals

Dinner 2: Eat with wife later usually protien with veg, or soup, or stir fry veg only - another 500 cals

Booze - Maybe a glass of wine or 2 - whatever 300ish

Try to range in the 3500-4500 cals a day might push to 6000 if I can, but never can hit it.

Currently weigh at 172@~13%. Goal is 185@16% then back to 175 at 11%. 
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Culdeus can't stuff his face fast enough and we have some folks in here trying to live on 1.5K calories/day.

Sometimes life just isn't fair.

 
Honestly I'm just exhausted to work out regularly anymore.

M- Thursday are a variation of this

leave my house at 6am - get home 5pm (includes commute and the 30 minutes) I get for lunch.  

Pick daughter up from school. Rush through dinner/start homework - to get to practice anywhere from 6-7 ending at 8 to 9.

By the time I get home - I just want to relax for an hour before bed.  

IS THAT SO WORNG?!$?!@?$!@$?

Plus my body is beat to death from my younger years and not properly having injuries heal/rehab.

I'm not making excuses - I just don't/can't work out like I used to anymore.

 
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belljr said:
Honestly I'm just exhausted to work out regularly anymore.

M- Thursday are a variation of this

leave my house at 6am - get home 5pm (includes commute and the 30 minutes) I get for lunch.  

Pick daughter up from school. Rush through dinner/start homework - to get to practice anywhere from 6-7 ending at 8 to 9.

By the time I get home - I just want to relax for an hour before bed.  

IS THAT SO WORNG?!$?!@?$!@$?

Plus my body is beat to death from my younger years and not properly having injuries heal/rehab.

I'm not making excuses - I just don't/can't work out like I used to anymore.
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What do you do during her practice?

 
belljr said:
Run them.

I am head coach in bball

Assistant in softball.

Once spring hits we are down to just softball 4 days a week
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Participate in them.  Run with the girls... do calisthenics... pushups, situps, jumping jacks... doesn't have to be much at first.

 
Keerock said:
Participate in them.  Run with the girls... do calisthenics... pushups, situps, jumping jacks... doesn't have to be much at first.
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I do :)

Then I catch for 30 minutes.  Squating

I'm not a complete slob.  

 
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7:25am - 2 egg whites, blueberries, coffee

10:15am - apple

12:25pm - 4oz chicken breast, carrots

2:25pm - 15 almonds

6:15pm - 4oz salmon, kale salad (dry), grapes

10:05pm - 23 oreos, half gallon of ice cream 

 
belljr said:
Honestly I'm just exhausted to work out regularly anymore.

M- Thursday are a variation of this

leave my house at 6am - get home 5pm (includes commute and the 30 minutes) I get for lunch.  

Pick daughter up from school. Rush through dinner/start homework - to get to practice anywhere from 6-7 ending at 8 to 9.

By the time I get home - I just want to relax for an hour before bed.  

IS THAT SO WORNG?!$?!@?$!@$?

Plus my body is beat to death from my younger years and not properly having injuries heal/rehab.

I'm not making excuses - I just don't/can't work out like I used to anymore.
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One thing I love about my job. They have a gym and I go during my lunch break everyday

 
shadyridr said:
One thing I love about my job. They have a gym and I go during my lunch break everyday
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We have one also. I should start.   But it's a tight window to get there workout -shower and be back in my 30 minutes.

Yes, i have to clock my time - i mean it's not super strict but I can't take an hour without making it up later

 
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I was on a boy's ski weekend for the last 6 days.  A lot of drinking and eating.  270.8 this am.  Not bad considering.

 
belljr said:
Honestly I'm just exhausted to work out regularly anymore.

M- Thursday are a variation of this

leave my house at 6am - get home 5pm (includes commute and the 30 minutes) I get for lunch.  

Pick daughter up from school. Rush through dinner/start homework - to get to practice anywhere from 6-7 ending at 8 to 9.

By the time I get home - I just want to relax for an hour before bed.  

IS THAT SO WORNG?!$?!@?$!@$?

Plus my body is beat to death from my younger years and not properly having injuries heal/rehab.

I'm not making excuses - I just don't/can't work out like I used to anymore.
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Get up at 5:00, workout until 5:40, done.

Let's Go!

 
belljr said:
We have one also. I should start.   But it's a tight window to get there workout -shower and be back in my 30 minutes.

Yes, i have to clock my time - i mean it's not super strict but I can't take an hour without making it up later
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I would make up the time later.  You could get a solid workout done in 45 minutes and only have to stay at work for an extra 15 minutes. 

 
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DocHolliday said:
I would make up the time later.  You could get a solid workout done in 45 minutes and only have to stay at work for an extra 15 minutes. 
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Yeah - a couple more years and it will be way easier.  I'm on kid pickup and as it is now we barely get to practice on time.  I'll have to try to get here earlier and make it up on the front end

:thumbup:

 
AcerFC said:
How do you do this
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Multiple ways, but it's pretty much trail and error. Track the calories of what you eat for 2-4 weeks when you're not dieting, try and keep your activity/workouts/exercise consistent, and track your weight. Then find the daily average. If your weight stays the same that's your TDEE. If lose weight, increase your daily calories by 100 and track your weight again until it stays stable for two weeks. If you gain weight, do the opposite. 

The other way is to use one of those calculators to get a starting point for how many calories you can consume and again use trail and error until you find a stable weight. 

From there when you want to lose weight just subtract 500 (though I usually start at -200 and increase the deficit when weight stalls) and if you want to gain weight you guys are pros at that.

The more muscle you build the higher your TDEE becomes. That's why I recommend pumping iron. You get to eat more compared to people who purely do cardio unless you're into running marathons.

 
Felt like I had an okay week. Though had the in-laws in town this weekend. Went out to eat and had bread for the first time in a month. Also first time to have pizza (spinach and broccoli pizza). Also, I have an elbow injury, so I am unable to lift until it gets better. Been running and biking though. 1 hour on the treadmill today.

Week 4 Weigh In:

Starting Weight: 212.0

Last week: 197.0

This Week: 197.4

Lost: +0.4

 
Having a very rough day today mentally so I wanna eat junk. Luckily I've been good all day and so I had room for brownie batter donut from dunkin donuts. So worth it. 

 
shadyridr said:
Having a very rough day today mentally so I wanna eat junk. Luckily I've been good all day and so I had room for brownie batter donut from dunkin donuts. So worth it. 
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My treat today was 5 pretzel M&M's.  I'll have 5 tomorrow and 5 Thursday.  Living on the wild side...

 
belljr said:
We have one also. I should start.   But it's a tight window to get there workout -shower and be back in my 30 minutes.

Yes, i have to clock my time - i mean it's not super strict but I can't take an hour without making it up later
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C'mon, 30 minutes for lunch?

 
Mission accomplished.  252 Fri to 259 Sun to 250 today.  Two 1000 cal days combined with 1h40m jog yesterday and one hour HIIT class and one hour cardio today.  If I don't #### up, I should break the 250 mark next week.

Week 5 Weigh In

Starting Weight: 278.6
Last Week: 253.2
Current Weight: 250.6
Week Lost: 2.6 lbs
Total Lost: 28.0 lbs
Total % Lost: 10.0%

@Sand

Also you missed my weigh in last week.

 
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BassNBrew said:
Also you missed my weigh in last week.
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Or maybe I just ignored it to piss you off.  :P

BTW folks I'm all updated.  Been a crazy few days with kids, PT, work, etc.  All of which generally suck (thought the kid is doing good, so no complaints).\

Didn't even weight myself yesterday, so I weighed in today after a bike spin.  Holding steady at 187 or so.  Given the last couple weeks no complaints.

 
Summer is coming. My wife looks fantastic. I look like a Volkswagen she could hide behind if we take fire. 

Let's go do this. 

 
Otis said:
Summer is coming. My wife looks fantastic. I look like a Volkswagen she could hide behind if we take fire. 

Let's go do this. 
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Otis is up early, he hears something, not quite sure what it is, ah, it's the sweet, seductive, siren call of the iron.

Or Oats is up to throw down some McGriddles and hash browns as he works his way from Volkswagen to Land Rover. 

Let's go!

 
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Sand said:
Or maybe I just ignored it to piss you off.  :P

BTW folks I'm all updated.  Been a crazy few days with kids, PT, work, etc.  All of which generally suck (thought the kid is doing good, so no complaints).\

Didn't even weight myself yesterday, so I weighed in today after a bike spin.  Holding steady at 187 or so.  Given the last couple weeks no complaints.
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Thanks,

BTW, I mentioned it a while back, but there is an error in the Biggest Weight Loss section in the formulas for 4th and 5th place.

 
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