Dickies
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Sounds like a terrible way to liveHell, I'm a marathon runner, and sometimes I feel that same way...
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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶♂️ (1 Viewer)
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not personally aware of a single runner that enjoys a significant percentage of their runs. It's a means to an ends - physically and mentally. Looking through my training logs I really only identified one six week stretch I would call 'zen.' Even the high effort workouts came naturally. But we're talking one six week stretch within the better part of a decade.Hell, I'm a marathon runner, and sometimes I feel that same way...
I'm not enjoying my current self imposed diet while I'm forced not to run (eating whatever I want is why I run), but it is kinda refreshing to take a break from running. It's gonna get old at some point, but I'll worry about that when I get there.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Monday works for me.
Do we want to do the original 2015 version or a different one? This one suggests Camp is a little more difficult if that's what we want, but I would be fine with any of them
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
My wife and I are going to do 30 days with Adriene soon. But don't wait on me (us). We're having work done on our house starting next week and I don't think either of us want to be doing (bad) yoga when there's a bunch of workers in our house.
kevzilla
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i've done 1000 pushups in the last 10 days. that's kinda cool.
i could possibly double up my yoga and start with y'all. i'm on day 11 of the first one. i do like, that they are getting a little harder, but would love to do longer ones
i could possibly double up my yoga and start with y'all. i'm on day 11 of the first one. i do like, that they are getting a little harder, but would love to do longer ones
The Flying Turtle
Footballguy
I just finished Day 11 too. I am liking it so far, except for days that seem too easy. I am a novice at best, but still want some challenge.
Overall keeping up with the walking and starting to eat better again (3 days with no junk food for snacks). Weight is slowly going back down but we are renting a house at the beach next week so all bets are off.
gruecd
Footballguy
That seems like a terrible shame.
There are a lot of good reasons for running. Maybe you're trying to get away from an insurance salesman. Maybe you're late to an appointment. Maybe it's World War II and you just kidnapped a Nazi general and you have to get him to the other side of Crete in order to escape.
The best reason, though, is simply because you enjoy it.
I generally don't like running, personally, so I rarely do it. I do enjoy walking...
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Dickies
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I can honestly say I have never had a bad time running to Crete with a captured Nazi general during World War II
krista4
Footballguy
You choose. One that's a little more difficult than the first is good, but really I'm down with anything.
kevzilla
Footballguy
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
I defer to the wisdom of the group. If we go the harder route I’ll likely just have to modify a decent bit. Slightly worried about an old wrist injury that’s been acting up but I think it will be fine.
Did the next day of the rowing program earlier. Still enjoying how the workouts make me change it up versus just rowing steady for 30-40 minutes. Going to do an ad-hog row tomorrow then I think is another 1k challenge I’ll do Saturday or Sunday.
bostonfred
Footballguy
She has a couple of videos for yoga for the wrists if you think that might help. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice.
I tried day 1 of camp today and will report back after a couple more. So far it's similar but with one of those planks where you bring your knee to your chest and hold. I dont think that showed up until day 7 of the original 30.
I am also ok doing the original 30 again. Would be fun to see how it goes now that I'm not completely confused what she's asking me to do.
I like ads but not enough to try ad hog rowing.
I have been mixing up my runs like that recently, if I start and just can tell im not up for a 40 minute slog, I'll do a bunch of quarter to half mile intervals and stop and walk in between. Or today I didn't have much time so I warmed up, ran at my "normal" pace of 6mph for a while then went my faster pace of 7 or 7.5 mph for a few mintues but instead of walking I go back to running my normal pace, then do a few more fast minutes and back to normal pace. Another day I might be watching a good movie and just dial it way back to MAF pace like 5.3 or 5.4. I am not training for anything except a healthy life after 40 so if my knees hurt or I don't feel great then #### it. Live to fight another day.
krista4
Footballguy
The first time I did Yoga with Adriene, I started a week or two later than I'd hoped because I was waiting for a friend who wanted to join me virtually (and never did). It did not occur to me at the time to ask a bunch of dudes in the Otis thread if they wanted to do it with me. 
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Otis
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The first time I did Yoga with Adriene, I started a week or two later than I'd hoped because I was waiting for a friend who wanted to join me virtually (and never did). It did not occur to me at the time to ask a bunch of dudes in the Otis thread if they wanted to do it with me.
Otis
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Yoga is all about modifying it, to you.
I have to tweak anything that involves a complete knee bend. Especially with weight on it.
While everyone is relaxing in child’s pose, I’m just trying to get another millimeter of bend in my reconstructed knee. Gasping for breath, sweating balls. But I want to break up the scar tissue. I could just chill on my stomach. And sometimes I do.
Watch the downward dogs on your wrist. Everything else should be fine
MAC_32
Footballguy
They're lying. They love their own unique benefits derived from running, but no runner enjoys all of their runs. Which ones they enjoy and which ones they don't depends on a variety of factors they may or may not be aware of.
Beyond the bonus calories @Zasada hit on a big reason I do it - I love the way I feel after a run. Exercise is my mid day recalibration and mine is either running or lifting.
So why do I run vs other forms of exercise? Time. Running became a major part of my lifestyle when I didn't have much of it. I had little people at home, a normal job, and 2 or 3 side jobs. The days of rec sports, 2 hours at the gym after work, morning long bike rides, and day hikes were over. Adapt or die. So my priority every day (or night) was to find a window to run. Whenever I found it I'd throw my running clothes on, get it done, then get back to whatever that day asked of me. I'd try to find a couple larger windows per week to do a good lift, but in between running was the only thing that worked for me. Running is a flexible and efficient activity - it can be done in almost any conditions at any time. 11 pm bike rides or laps in the pool aren't options, but pavement pounding in the neighborhood is.
But beyond that I also saw running as a potential sustainable habit once I found more time. I sure didn't enjoy running late at night or on interrupted infant sleep, but life wasn't always going to be that way. When I found more time would I run more? And that's exactly what happened. I went from trying to grind out a few miles per week without injuring myself nor getting fat to an endurance runner. A 40 mile week with 2-3 lifts mixed in is now just a new normal. I foresee a day in which I may stop running so damn much. My body may dictate so. But it isn't in the near future. I have more time than I did 7-9 years ago but those activities I did before kids still require too much of it. So I'm gonna keep running. Even though I don't always enjoy actually doing it.
bostonfred
Footballguy
You might be surprised. I tried my first yoga class in my late 30s, told the instructor I'd never done it before, fat and dressed in regular gym clothes with no mat or anything, just thought I'd try. I was able to do the balance poses well enough that she thought I was lying because the other suburbanites were all tipping over. But the most common pose, downward facing dog, was super hard for me because I didnt have the arm strength and I had a big beer gut. I didn't love it and never went back. I did a couple yoga videos in between randomly with my wife, then did my second ever yoga class a little before the coronavirus stuff. That was it before I started Yoga with Adriene. She's a very good teacher for newbies and she doesn't push you to do more than you can or should.
One thing I really like is that instead of telling you how to make a particular movement easier, a lot of times she'll tell you how to make it harder if you are more experienced and want the challenge. It sucks feeling like you have to take the easy option. It's much different to just not take the hard option. But as I got better at it I definitely did more of the harder options and felt like i was doing awesome.
It also helps that she talks like a twenty something who doesn't take herself super seriously. She stumbles over her words sometimes or makes awkward jokes and quickly says just kidding, and it's part of her charm.
You guys turned me on to Yoga with Adrienne (never thought I would hear the term "Love Cave" during a yoga workout) and while I have enjoyed it as a change of pace I wanted to share something slightly different. I began doing DDP Yoga (or DDPY, as he prefers to call it) about 5 years ago. It's yoga-ish with traditional poses combined with some rehab and isometric movements. Anyhow, I lost 40 pounds the first 8 months I did it and have lost close to 70 in total (and kept it off), most of it without making any substantial changes to my diet. It's done wonders for my knees and back and I highly recommend it to anyone. I still do it 5 times a week along with some weight training and feel better at 44 than I did at 25.
Here's the initial testimonial that got me hooked - https://youtu.be/qX9FSZJu448 . It's not free (he has an app with a monthly subscription or you can order DVDs) but you can try the app for free for 7 days and see what you think. It's been great for me.
Here's the initial testimonial that got me hooked - https://youtu.be/qX9FSZJu448 . It's not free (he has an app with a monthly subscription or you can order DVDs) but you can try the app for free for 7 days and see what you think. It's been great for me.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
I remember you or someone else mentioning this awhile back. Maybe if the 30 days go well will graduate to this. Love the idea of getting in the type of shape yoga promotes.
Row today pretty solid. Goal of 1:30 on a 500m eventually.
NutterButter
Footballguy
When I saw that link, I just knew it had to be that video. I never heard of DDP yoga prior to watching that (still haven't done it), but what a great story. I have that saved with my youtube account and watch it from time to time.
And congratulations on the weight loss.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Losing 140 lbs in 10 months doesn't sound healthy. I definitely understand the excitement and the mobility gains are awesome but that's a scary pace.
Otis
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
Tonight I felt like I want to go back to keto-ish. Just something that would limit the carbs. Because basically every bad thing I eat would be prevented if I did that. And I remember from past experience that after I do that for a few days I start to have tons of energy and lose the cravings for sugar and potato chips and junk. Mrs O keeps convincing me it’s somehow bad for my heart, but then again strolling around with this unnecessary 30lbs probably is no treat for my heart either.....
Do I need pizza and chips? No. No sir; I do not.
Do I need pizza and chips? No. No sir; I do not.
I think it really depends on where you're starting from. If you're only 20 pounds overweight to begin with, losing 140 pounds in 10 months should be extremely worrisome. But if you're at least 140 pounds overweight, I see no inherent issue with that pace. It's less than 0.5 pounds a day, which is generally the minimum pace you'd expect on an ultra-healthy, medically supervised fast.
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It has been a total game changer for me. I even got my wife hooked, who always swore yoga was "sleepy time stuff" and not real exercise. She finally gave in once the pandemic started - she had been battling some pain in her hip - and she is now a convert. She hasn't had any hip pain in almost 2 months and has lost 10 pounds of her own.
Otis
Footballguy
Can someone link up this Adrienne yoga thing? (it on YouTube or something?). And what day are we starting this?
Really tempted to sue this to prompt me into crazy excellence mode. Row in the morning; yoga in the afternoon; keto diet. Oh man. Oh man oh man.
Really tempted to sue this to prompt me into crazy excellence mode. Row in the morning; yoga in the afternoon; keto diet. Oh man. Oh man oh man.
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
It's on YouTube. Just search "30 day yoga with Adriene". You'll be treated with some serious eye candy (and a very cool, sweet woman).
Dickies
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
It’s the booze, my brother. Nothing else.
Not preaching. I’m in the same boat. I exercise like a loon, so I can get away with drinking too much. I eat really well. The only time I don’t, is when I’m hungover. Gotta seriously control how often that happens. Never would be great...working on it.
Otis
Footballguy
Are we starting this Adriene thing today, since it’s August 1, and do the full month? Or we starting Monday for 30 days?
I’m going to do low carb, IF, with rowing and yoga, for 30 days. For realz. I’m pretty sure Hollywood will be calling in a month. “How did you get such sweet abs? WHAT IS YOUR SECRET”
I’m going to do low carb, IF, with rowing and yoga, for 30 days. For realz. I’m pretty sure Hollywood will be calling in a month. “How did you get such sweet abs? WHAT IS YOUR SECRET”
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's impressive and I'm jealous. I like strength training that doesn't involve weights plus I have heard pushups can really trim the tummy and develop a 6-pack sometimes.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Seriously, almost none of the hard work we do on walks, runs, bikes, weights, etc...you need to have the 2nd element which is watching what you eat. I have a difficult time going more than a couple days without a beer or drink and that's just for starters, the food I can keep in check as long as I am not getting together with others. So in this current environment many of us are in, little easier right now to distance from everyone.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Greetings everybody once again,
-Today we have a Hurricane off shore here along Jupiter where we expect to get some of the brunt of this...however it creates a beautiful environment outside right now where you mix clear skies for a few minutes and then fast moving outer bands creating shade and not much rain, so I jumped out this morning to get August kicked off.
-4 Miles in 50:00, "Eat it Harvey"(Die Hard), I got a true runner's high today and ran at least 3/4 of those 4 miles to get my time around where I want. I'd like to go 3Mi/36Min but 4/50 will do just fine. I sat down for 10 minutes outside afterwards on my steps, the ground was moving in a way I'm not used to, light headed, RUNNER's HIGH...I actually teared up a little bit when I was done and my wife asked if I was crying, I just let a lot of emotions I've been holding on to, I just let them go and I've never run for so long at one time without stopping, it's an incredible feeling.
I walked and cycled a lot of miles in Apr, May and June. July, however has been up and down. Mostly trying to eat out again has been a real challenge. Trying to get back to making most of my meals with a few exceptions.
The last week or two with travel and the rest I haven't been checking in as much, not just in this thread but many others and I've opted to not watch news to the point things happen and I am surprised where others say "Oh you didn't see that on the news"...and I'm OK with that. It upsets me, all of it right now and it's better if I just focus on myself as best I can.
Thank you everyone, I wouldn't be able to post all these new accomplishments in my health if not for the support of so many of you.
-I had a field day at Nordstrom Rack running thru the 34 inch waist section and pushing myself to buy Large vs XL which I still like to get because they are very roomy but my wife says I should wear things that are fit and cut better...Ted Baker, what a shirtmaker if you've never had one of these on. I used to HATE going to a department store because nothing ever fit right. And I do this not to brag but to share that occasionally you must remind yourself of why you do some of this. I have redone a lot of my clothes and closet and parted with things that no longer fit so I don't allow myself mentally to think I'm going back to the old MOP.
-On board for meditation and yoga, I truly need it or I'm going to have a stroke or heart attack.
Cheers!
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Last night we went to HH and I had a couple Mai Tai but I was home by 7, asleep by like 9 and wide awake by 5-6 this morning. I can't drink alcohol in that form every day although I can pop a couple light beers several nights in a row.
I agree booze adds weight but many days I have a light breakfast, much larger lunch and then in the evening it's a couple light beers and some snacks like hot air popcorn with no butter, probably no appealing to everyone but you can eat a lot of it with not much downside.
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