Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (3 Viewers)

[Otis]

Thanks GB.  Honestly, haven’t been too hungry.  So far it hasn’t been very difficult.  If anything, the little grogginess, alcohol withdrawal I suspect, has been weird.  Also I’m now hitting, as of last night, high energy phase.  That’s when, because I’m not stuffing my fat face and medicating with alcohol, and my body isn’t bogged down and exhausted processing all that crap, I suddenly have tons of energy, want to stay up later, and even in bed at night keep waking up and don’t sleep great.  It’s not a terrible thing and it passes to some degree, but as I recall from my other health kicks, I should maintain this extra energy going forward, which isn’t a bad thing at all....

 

[kevzilla]

Anybody try yoga in steel-toed boots? Asking for me.

 

[Otis]

PS today I could even stand on the tops of my feet for the entire time (floating dead cat or whatever tf she calls it) and stayed up on side planks for most of the time (she’s there explaining and I find myself getting frustrated like SHH just start counting breaths I’m dying here).

 

[DA RAIDERS]

PS today I could even stand on the tops of my feet for the entire time (floating dead cat or whatever tf she calls it) and stayed up on side planks for most of the time (she’s there explaining and I find myself getting frustrated like SHH just start counting breaths I’m dying here).

  that's the worst!!  she's sitting there, explaining what to do...meanwhile, i've been in chair pose for a minute already.  as deep as i can go.  

 

[kevzilla]

Anybody try yoga in steel-toed boots? Asking for me.

She's so sweet, and she goes "just rolllll up on your toes" and I just rolllll up on my toes and everything goes white. When I can focus again, she's moved on like nothing happened.

 

[bostonfred]

"Alternate nostril breathing" sucked.  It was dumb and made my nose run like crazy.  Then lots and lots of lunges, with her veering at one point into talking about a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, which was annoying.  Then crow.  If yoga studios were open, I might go into one and have them put me in crow pose to see what I'm doing wrong.  She kinda started to do a step-by-step but then didn't finish that, so I still felt lost.

I dont know of the breathing helped, but your warning helped, because I brought tissues up next to my mat. 

I didn't realize how much work she was going to have us do in those lunges and how long we would be holding them. That was harder than I thought.  I like how you used to find her getting distracted by the sand butterfly adorable, but now you're like damn it Andrea shut up about the turtles and let me put my ####### arms down. 

I am excited to say I did my best crow ever and was actually up there for a second or so.  The big change came when I put my hands at shoulder width/pushup width instead of putting them too close together.  

If I understand correctly, the things you want are a big flat base from your hands, your wrists and forearms making two columns straight in the air, full width of your shoulder or even wider. Your knees should be up into your armpit/bicep area, but it's really your shins that are going to sit on the flat back of your arm, just inside where your shoulders are. So the weight of your knees is on your upper arms and your arms are pressing straight down the vertical forearm so the only strength is keeping your wrists tight and your legs from falling off your arms, but the majority of your weight is held up by your bone, not muscle. 

I might not be understanding correctly though. I am not a yoga instructor and this is not yoga advice. Consult your doctor before beginning this or any exercise program. 

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

for me, my knees are just below my triceps.

That's where my elbows are, but I guess everyone's different.

 

[bostonfred]

Day 3 of 65 complete. Good treadmill session, chicken, broccoli and cauliflower for dinner,lots of water and ready for an early night. Hit my protein goal and pretty good with fiber and fat but under my target by about 350 calories.  This isn't something I want to do long term but I feel like I'm still burning through some of my reserves from my maintenance days so I'm not getting super hungry.  I think I know my body well enough to switch back to eating my full complement of calories when it is time but I want to be careful to get enough calories while I'm exercising. Tomorrow would be a pushups day but I will see how I feel.  When I started I was getting plenty of calories and all the protein I needed but it's dangerous to gain muscle while cutting weight and I am not in a hurry. The yoga and running are plenty, and I might take the kid for a hike tomorrow if the weather is nice. 

@Otis @belljr @SWC how are we doing?

 

[krista4]

I dont know of the breathing helped, but your warning helped, because I brought tissues up next to my mat. 

I didn't realize how much work she was going to have us do in those lunges and how long we would be holding them. That was harder than I thought.  I like how you used to find her getting distracted by the sand butterfly adorable, but now you're like damn it Andrea shut up about the turtles and let me put my ####### arms down. 

Definitely some of us.  Several times a session she's just blabbing on and I'm wondering if I'm still supposed to be holding my breath in or if I can exhale.

Congrats on your crow!

 

[krista4]

Also, I just ate four cookies and hate myself now.  I'll drown my sorrows and self-loathing in wine.

 

[Otis]

Day 3 of 65 complete. Good treadmill session, chicken, broccoli and cauliflower for dinner,lots of water and ready for an early night. Hit my protein goal and pretty good with fiber and fat but under my target by about 350 calories.  This isn't something I want to do long term but I feel like I'm still burning through some of my reserves from my maintenance days so I'm not getting super hungry.  I think I know my body well enough to switch back to eating my full complement of calories when it is time but I want to be careful to get enough calories while I'm exercising. Tomorrow would be a pushups day but I will see how I feel.  When I started I was getting plenty of calories and all the protein I needed but it's dangerous to gain muscle while cutting weight and I am not in a hurry. The yoga and running are plenty, and I might take the kid for a hike tomorrow if the weather is nice. 

@Otis @belljr @SWC how are we doing?

Good day BF, keep it up. 
 

Another good day here. No alcohol. Ate very healthy. Just went a little wild with a couch snack and ate some triple 0 greek yogurt.  Going to bed soon. 
 

I didn’t get to row today, day got away from me, but did my yoga. Thought about rowing this evening but feeling tired and figure I’ll just plan to row in the morning.  Work gets progressively less crazy each day the rest of the week, so should be easier to double up rowing and yoga for a few days. 
 

Have I mentioned I haven’t had a drink since Saturday??

 

[Otis]

Also, I just ate four cookies and hate myself now.  I'll drown my sorrows and self-loathing in wine.

You savage. 

 

[eaganwildcats]

Update: tweaked something in the lower back today I think. Pretty brutal - what an annoying twist of fate. Hopeful ibuprofen solves my ills. 

This solved itself but spooked me pretty good staring down another 13 hours in the car so took it relatively easy during the rest of ‘vacation’. Kept the diet on the rails and was highly active each day so will be curious what the scale has in store for me tomorrow. Been doing push-ups and will probably get back on the rower here soon. Might be throwing in the towel on the yoga. 

 

[Otis]

This solved itself but spooked me pretty good staring down another 13 hours in the car so took it relatively easy during the rest of ‘vacation’. Kept the diet on the rails and was highly active each day so will be curious what the scale has in store for me tomorrow. Been doing push-ups and will probably get back on the rower here soon. Might be throwing in the towel on the yoga. 

 

Come on GB!  But glad you’re gonna be rowing again at least. 

 

[Otis]

My middle of the night insomnia thought: have I irreparably destroyed my body through the past 20 years of drinking far too much alcohol far too often? 

 

[bigbottom]

Hey healthy people and people getting healthy! Consider going for a run (or walk) anytime during September to support Childhood Cancer Awareness month. In addition to taking part in a great cause, you’ll get a race medal and shirt.  
 

Chance for Hope Going Gold Fun Run Signup: https://runsignup.com/Race/TX/Anytown/Chanceforhope

 

[Steve Tasker]

I dont know of the breathing helped, but your warning helped, because I brought tissues up next to my mat. 

I didn't realize how much work she was going to have us do in those lunges and how long we would be holding them. That was harder than I thought.  I like how you used to find her getting distracted by the sand butterfly adorable, but now you're like damn it Andrea shut up about the turtles and let me put my ####### arms down. 

I am excited to say I did my best crow ever and was actually up there for a second or so.  The big change came when I put my hands at shoulder width/pushup width instead of putting them too close together.  

If I understand correctly, the things you want are a big flat base from your hands, your wrists and forearms making two columns straight in the air, full width of your shoulder or even wider. Your knees should be up into your armpit/bicep area, but it's really your shins that are going to sit on the flat back of your arm, just inside where your shoulders are. So the weight of your knees is on your upper arms and your arms are pressing straight down the vertical forearm so the only strength is keeping your wrists tight and your legs from falling off your arms, but the majority of your weight is held up by your bone, not muscle. 

I might not be understanding correctly though. I am not a yoga instructor and this is not yoga advice. Consult your doctor before beginning this or any exercise program. 

Generally yes, you want to get the knees as far up into the armpits as possible.  Here's a pretty good animated gif.

It's important to remember in yoga that everyone's body is different.  Some things are going to be easier than others, and some things will never be achievable for some people.  It's all about being comfortable with your own personal growth.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Also, I just ate four cookies and 

And? I've been taking stock in Haagan Daaz of late, those little individuals they sell are addictive. At least it's a measured serving, I would destroy a Quart if i bought that size. Salted caramel and coffee are my favs. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Good day BF, keep it up. 
 

Another good day here. No alcohol. Ate very healthy. Just went a little wild with a couch snack and ate some triple 0 greek yogurt.  Going to bed soon. 
 

I didn’t get to row today, day got away from me, but did my yoga. Thought about rowing this evening but feeling tired and figure I’ll just plan to row in the morning.  Work gets progressively less crazy each day the rest of the week, so should be easier to double up rowing and yoga for a few days. 
 

Have I mentioned I haven’t had a drink since Saturday??

I was never a yogurt person until the Mrs started bringing in Skyr and once you try any of the lowfat options they have like the one I linked you will never go back. No guilt and I was surprised to learn yogurt is a great protein option. They're close to $2 a piece so they ain't cheap but they're damn good. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hey healthy people and people getting healthy! Consider going for a run (or walk) anytime during September to support Childhood Cancer Awareness month. In addition to taking part in a great cause, you’ll get a race medal and shirt.  
 

Chance for Hope Going Gold Fun Run Signup: https://runsignup.com/Race/TX/Anytown/Chanceforhope

Mrs and I work in fundraising, I remember how this impacts you personally. Also, while the current pandemic put the brakes on a potential opportunity in Texas, we are still hopeful to do some work with the Driscoll Children's Hospital hopefully in 2021. 

I got the itch to do a virtual 5k after I finished 3 miles the other day. I'm sure you don't have to live in Texas to participate. Thanks for posting this 

 

[bostonfred]

I was never a yogurt person until the Mrs started bringing in Skyr and once you try any of the lowfat options they have like the one I linked you will never go back. No guilt and I was surprised to learn yogurt is a great protein option. They're close to $2 a piece so they ain't cheap but they're damn good. 

If you like that, try Noosa - they have a salted caramel that I get for dessert once in a while and their blueberry is awesome.  

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If you like that, try Noosa - they have a salted caramel that I get for dessert once in a while and their blueberry is awesome.  

Just FYI...4x fat, twice the amount of sugar half the amount of protein...you did say dessert. But I'll try them, I've seen them all over the stores. Skyr just arrived at Publix down here, prior you had to go to Sprouts or Whole Foods. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

My middle of the night insomnia thought: have I irreparably destroyed my body through the past 20 years of drinking far too much alcohol far too often? 

The Body heals. I was 250-300 lbs for a good chunk of my life after the age of about 21. 

Wine and alcohol has been linked to some healthy attributes especially daily wine so you don't have to be a total straight arrow. 

What's happened to you to get to this point you are at right now, that's not nearly as important as how you see yourself moving forward. Can you go back to being 18 or 21? No you cannot. Can you make healthy choices and live a healthy lifestyle and reverse some of the damage? I believe you can and when I look around at guys my age, some are in better shape but many are in worse shape. I just went for my physical and got a clean bill of health, I take mo medications or prescriptions to be precise. 

Build on the positive, three beautiful children. Build on what you have accomplished? My notes say attorney, that's a pretty respectable level to succeed in life by most definitions. Build on what you have built. If your oldest is about 9-10 years old, you likely have had the same lady and friend for at least the last decade. Lot of men never able to make it a few years, so you know you are stable person and you're going to do the right things just like you've done your entire life. 

Now stop feeling sorry for yourself and ROW ROW ROW!!!

 

[bostonfred]

Hundredpushups.com update - today I was supposed to do 120 pushups with sets of 22, 30, 20, 20, then 28. I got through the 22 with no problem, but struggled on the 30, finished the next 20, and then part way through the next 20 I could just tell if I pushed it any more something was going to pop. Took a little extra rest, started the 4th set over and did all 20, then took a couple more minutes and did the final 28. I don't feel confident in moving up after today, but I did it.  I'll repeat week 3 day 3 before moving up to week 4.

Tomorrow would be a pushups day but I will see how I feel. 

Tried the first set of 22. Went well. Second set of 30 I finished much better than last time.  Finished both sets of 20 no problem, although I did feel pretty cooked after the second 20. Took a little extra time before the last set of 28. Hit the wall at 22, and my knees dropped for a second, but got right back up and finished strong.  120 total pushups.

I thought to myself, there is no way I would have finished week 4 day 1 today, but then I looked at it and son of a ####### #####, it is 21, 25, 21, 21, 32.  120 total pushups again.  Week 3 jumped from 80 to 100 to 120, so I just assumed week 4 would start out hard like that. 

Oh well, I feel much more confident after repeating week 3 day 3, and I'll be ready to move to week 4 next time out. 

 

[bigbottom]

Mrs and I work in fundraising, I remember how this impacts you personally. Also, while the current pandemic put the brakes on a potential opportunity in Texas, we are still hopeful to do some work with the Driscoll Children's Hospital hopefully in 2021. 

I got the itch to do a virtual 5k after I finished 3 miles the other day. I'm sure you don't have to live in Texas to participate. Thanks for posting this 

That’s right!  Because this is a virtual event, you can participate from anywhere!

 

[SWC]

Day 3 of 65 complete. Good treadmill session, chicken, broccoli and cauliflower for dinner,lots of water and ready for an early night. Hit my protein goal and pretty good with fiber and fat but under my target by about 350 calories.  This isn't something I want to do long term but I feel like I'm still burning through some of my reserves from my maintenance days so I'm not getting super hungry.  I think I know my body well enough to switch back to eating my full complement of calories when it is time but I want to be careful to get enough calories while I'm exercising. Tomorrow would be a pushups day but I will see how I feel.  When I started I was getting plenty of calories and all the protein I needed but it's dangerous to gain muscle while cutting weight and I am not in a hurry. The yoga and running are plenty, and I might take the kid for a hike tomorrow if the weather is nice. 

@Otis @belljr @SWC how are we doing?

i biked 25 miles yesterday but did not get a walk in in the morning because it was pouring here i logged my food and came in like a thousand colories under today i already walked and swam for the second time in about a year and everything is feeling that right now so i guess thats good tonight i will bike because i am still shy of 600 kms for my strava august badgeroni take that to the bank bromigos 

 

[SWC]

My middle of the night insomnia thought: have I irreparably destroyed my body through the past 20 years of drinking far too much alcohol far too often? 

no you have not just get back on the horse and whip it back into high school shape take that to the bank broni loves chachi 

 

[Otis]

Rowed this morning (tough row, I only beat 2 of the 10 splits at 1:45, completely out of gas from there on out, great workout), day 24 of yoga in the midday, walks at the zoo in the morning and with the family again in the evening.  No alcohol.  Healthy food all day. 

 

[eaganwildcats]

Rowed this morning (tough row, I only beat 2 of the 10 splits at 1:45, completely out of gas from there on out, great workout), day 24 of yoga in the midday, walks at the zoo in the morning and with the family again in the evening.  No alcohol.  Healthy food all day. 

I went 0/10 on this day when I did it. I think it had me shooting for 1:35. 

 

[krista4]

Advanced Adriene today is advertised as being for abs and arms, but it felt like all-abs to me.  Good workout.  Today she let us know that counting is not really her thing.  If anyone's looking for some extra workout today, I recommend this - only ~27 minutes.  She said at the beginning and the end to feel free to do it a second time if you wanted.  I did not.

 

[bostonfred]

Advanced Adriene today is advertised as being for abs and arms, but it felt like all-abs to me.  Good workout.  Today she let us know that counting is not really her thing.  If anyone's looking for some extra workout today, I recommend this - only ~27 minutes.  She said at the beginning and the end to feel free to do it a second time if you wanted.  I did not.

I looked it over this morning after I did my pushups and got nervous when I saw the name, then when I saw the moves involved I just closed the tab and embraced denial until I saw your post just now. It looks like a good one. 

 

[krista4]

I looked it over this morning after I did my pushups and got nervous when I saw the name, then when I saw the moves involved I just closed the tab and embraced denial until I saw your post just now. It looks like a good one. 

It never felt too difficult but gave a good burn, for me at least.  The most uncomfortable part was the last move, which I'm certain will lead to my being sore tomorrow.

 

[bostonfred]

It never felt too difficult but gave a good burn, for me at least.  The most uncomfortable part was the last move, which I'm certain will lead to my being sore tomorrow.

It was a good workout but I had zero left in the tank after my pushups this morning.  Can't do these on the same day.  When she said ok let's just do chataranga pushups ok now back to a pushup pose then had us do wide armed pushups and then said ok let's do one more set from plank pose and it was those plank toe taps I almost stopped the video.  There might have been tears when we finished and then she said ok let's do one more set. ####### miserable woman. Then she decided to start some new core exercises. Neat.  At one point I think she said you can do downward dog or child's pose but I couldn't hear her because I was already in child's pose sobbing quietly. 

I did a nice long walk with my kid today, and was deciding whether or not to run. This decided it for me. Day off from running, I still have some calories left over and no need to push any further. 

 

[bostonfred]

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ih4y2s/til_a_1992_study_looked_into_why_obese_people_who/

 

[kevzilla]

Apologies for not posting daily. What I'm doing now is a 30-minute walk at dawn, and Yoga for Complete Losers at lunch. Outlook: hopeful

 

[fred_1_15301]

Sorry haven't posted in several days.  On a family vacation in Maine staying in a remote place with barely any internet connection.  It's been awesome!  

Keeping up with Yoga.  Haven't been able to work in my body combats (that will restart on Sunday when I'm back home).  Been following the thread and proud of all of you

 

[krista4]

It was a good workout but I had zero left in the tank after my pushups this morning.  Can't do these on the same day.  When she said ok let's just do chataranga pushups ok now back to a pushup pose then had us do wide armed pushups and then said ok let's do one more set from plank pose and it was those plank toe taps I almost stopped the video.  There might have been tears when we finished and then she said ok let's do one more set. ####### miserable woman. Then she decided to start some new core exercises. Neat.  At one point I think she said you can do downward dog or child's pose but I couldn't hear her because I was already in child's pose sobbing quietly. 

I did a nice long walk with my kid today, and was deciding whether or not to run. This decided it for me. Day off from running, I still have some calories left over and no need to push any further. 

Oh yeah, I did forget to mention the side planks, too.

That last exercise was killer!

 

[krista4]

@bostonfred, I forgot to mention, she made a reference today to her "Empower" program, which I haven't looked at because I count on you to do the work for me, but it sounded like possibly a good option for us to turn to next, if people are looking for something more challenging.

 

[Otis]

Fred> we’re nearing the end of 30 days.  Is there another Adriene program or mash up that we could all do?  (Like, those of us who are still kind of noobs because we only have 30 days under our belt, but also you advanced yogis and krista who lives on cookies and wine and is struggling to not drop too far BELOW her goal weight?).

Want to make sure we have something on reserve to keep the momentum going.....

 

[bostonfred]

@bostonfred, I forgot to mention, she made a reference today to her "Empower" program, which I haven't looked at because I count on you to do the work for me, but it sounded like possibly a good option for us to turn to next, if people are looking for something more challenging.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8HYVhQKzZIIhlSmen9uMu1vVWaa1AlTv

I think this is it

Everything looks hard

I'm currently wallowing in self pity and questioning how much i care about my health really, maybe not the best time for me to talk about kicking it up another level 

 

[bostonfred]

Fred> we’re nearing the end of 30 days.  Is there another Adriene program or mash up that we could all do?  (Like, those of us who are still kind of noobs because we only have 30 days under our belt, but also you advanced yogis and krista who lives on cookies and wine and is struggling to not drop too far BELOW her goal weight?).

Want to make sure we have something on reserve to keep the momentum going.....

Working on it.  Would like to find a playlist or curate one from some of her previous segments. Probably needs to wait until I'm done pondering human frailty tonight. 

 

[krista4]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8HYVhQKzZIIhlSmen9uMu1vVWaa1AlTv

I think this is it

Everything looks hard

I'm currently wallowing in self pity and questioning how much i care about my health really, maybe not the best time for me to talk about kicking it up another level 

I wonder if in the next 30-day segment we could agree to take a one-day break after Day 10 and Day 20?  Would that help other people as much as it would help me?  Sometimes the daily requirement is a drag, and I've had to double-up twice.  Knowing there was a short break coming would be helpful.  I vow to do something physical on the "off" day, but would benefit from having a couple of opportunities not to drag myself out of bed first thing each morning for double-one-legged-dodo-cat-with-a-twist shape.

 

[Otis]

I wonder if in the next 30-day segment we could agree to take a one-day break after Day 10 and Day 20?  Would that help other people as much as it would help me?  Sometimes the daily requirement is a drag, and I've had to double-up twice.  Knowing there was a short break coming would be helpful.  I vow to do something physical on the "off" day, but would benefit from having a couple of opportunities not to drag myself out of bed first thing each morning for double-one-legged-dodo-cat-with-a-twist shape.

I like it. All our bodies can use a rest here and there. 

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Oh yeah, I did forget to mention the side planks, too.

That last exercise was killer!

It was incredibly hard. Especially if you listened to what she saying. Feet barely move. Just lift/tilt your pelvis off the ground. Unbelievably difficult. 

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Fred> we’re nearing the end of 30 days.  Is there another Adriene program or mash up that we could all do?  (Like, those of us who are still kind of noobs because we only have 30 days under our belt, but also you advanced yogis and krista who lives on cookies and wine and is struggling to not drop too far BELOW her goal weight?).

Want to make sure we have something on reserve to keep the momentum going.....

Do the courage one that Fred is linking. There are a couple of hard, hour long ones,.  But you can do them. 

 

[DA RAIDERS]

@bostonfred, I forgot to mention, she made a reference today to her "Empower" program, which I haven't looked at because I count on you to do the work for me, but it sounded like possibly a good option for us to turn to next, if people are looking for something more challenging.

I’m doing it.  I need longer sessions. Are they longer?  

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8HYVhQKzZIIhlSmen9uMu1vVWaa1AlTv

I think this is it

Everything looks hard

I'm currently wallowing in self pity and questioning how much i care about my health really, maybe not the best time for me to talk about kicking it up another level 

Zip it chump. Step into you power and crush the next level. 

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I wonder if in the next 30-day segment we could agree to take a one-day break after Day 10 and Day 20?  Would that help other people as much as it would help me?  Sometimes the daily requirement is a drag, and I've had to double-up twice.  Knowing there was a short break coming would be helpful.  I vow to do something physical on the "off" day, but would benefit from having a couple of opportunities not to drag myself out of bed first thing each morning for double-one-legged-dodo-cat-with-a-twist shape.

Yogi’s choice.

I’ve had to double up twice, in the last week.  Today’s, in fact. It was brutal. Especially with 125 pushups in the mix. And I do my best, to do the hardest possible option. Every time.  My crow sucked today. 

 

[rockaction]

I know this is the place where we come and resolve to do better by our bodies and our health and I'd like to say that I was gifted an elliptical recently for my birthday. I can't wait to purchase and use it. I'll check in here to see all the funky stuff you guys are doing, but I really just want to get back to pre-COVID shape and beyond. It's been a rough stretch since April, and I think I've put on about fifteen-twenty pounds. I'd like that to end. Anyway, keep up the good work in your daily quest for good health. Even if generally silent, I'm an encouraged reader. Peace.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ih4y2s/til_a_1992_study_looked_into_why_obese_people_who/

This is why the Apps help so much. On a scratch pad it seems easy to flub but when you put in what you just ate as you go thru the day into these little phones, it's a major help. Granted, people can just not report or use the App and I stopped a month or two back and have had a much more challenging time maintaining what I lost. When I use the App and track closely I tend to drop the weight more steadily. 

Wanted to add that the report you reference did a lot of damage and spun many bad diet fads based on questionable people saying that exercise and eating a healthy diet of fruits and vegetables and lean proteins didn't help them lose weight. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I know this is the place where we come and resolve to do better by our bodies and our health 

That's the goal in general but I would say that a good chunk of the time we fail to hit our marks. I found the only way to get thru the crisis was to focus on myself and not others, I quickly discovered a lot of problem areas and have been going to town working on them. I think you will find that there are things mentally or mental road blocks that you will work thru and that will make things easier to navigate. 

I never ran in my life more than 50 yd sprint type stuff, the other day I finished 3 miles without a stop, that was a first. The rest would be ego centric so we'll skip that and I will simply say I've had great success and mostly because these guys don't put up with my bull#### and it's made me a better person overall. It's also kept me relatively sane thru this crisis we are all in. And I have a lot of work yet to be done, I still drink a little too often, still food binge periodically. Good Luck Rock, glad you're hear.