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hard to do when Netflix only gives them 10 episodes per season..
Most shows have 16 or more per season so writers here need to cram as much as they can, which can at times cost character development.
8-10 episodes per season seems to be the norm for most of the shows I watch. Think we got 16 for the last season of Breaking Bad but that really was two seasons (5a and 5b) much like Game of Thrones. 
Interesting.. For shows like BB, Ozark, Saul, Fargo I'd very much want 16.. That is 4 a month.. Start in October, take December off as Mid season break, then finish up January and February..
My line is no tv show should have more than 60 episodes. If I see a show on Netflix or whatever with 96 episodes there’s no chance I start. They don’t have that much story.
I pretty much just watch dramas. Haven’t watched a sitcom in decades other than curb on and off.
I really, really like the show, and find it entertaining, but I'm conflicted on how good it really is. Likely, because of what you mention here.
Not to be completely contrarian, but I think Ben's story arc has been one of the most fascinating, by far. The finale will show you that the story is going to line up more with what you're expecting, but I loved episodes 7-9 this season.
It’s not a great show in the sense of all-timers like BB, Sopranos, Mad Men etc. It’s a very solid B+ and maybe the last two seasons will move it up. But season 1 and 2 were just ok. Last two episodes of 3 were about as good as tv gets though imo.
hard to do when Netflix only gives them 10 episodes per season..
Most shows have 16 or more per season so writers here need to cram as much as they can, which can at times cost character development.
Seems pretty clear to me. She stole from him and instead of laying down and dying or entering into a blood feud, he rationally talked his way out of danger and manipulated her whole family the way she does. He showed how he thrived surrounded by much more dangerous people by using his brain. I think she admired that, while still wanting to kill him for the money at that time. But then, to take it a step further, he actually put trust in her, gave her responsibility and a "real job", and paid her real money to do it. He gave her a reason to think about a future that wasn't just B&E's and petty criminal gains. He showed her loyalty and allowed her to keep climbing the ladder, giving positive reinforcement but still encouraging her to figure things out on her own. That's a powerful thing to give someone scrabbling for respect who's never had a real opportunity to rise above the muck before.pollardsvision said:
They've always lived modestly. In the pilot episode he pulled together 8 million dollars in 24 hours by liquidating their investments, but you'd never have known that was in their reach based on their house and car. No different now.
On its own I don't disagree, and the actor playing Ben was unquestionably great but I just really had trouble with him dominating the second half of the season. It really felt like two different shows to me.
I'm new to the thread so forgive me if this has been posted already - that character getting so much screen time and him continuing to make mistakes was necessary to make it believable that Wendy would sign off on him getting whacked.
Ugh I hate when that happens. Sorry man. It's been a little while since it released though, it's wild that you felt comfortable being in this thread at all.Soulfly3 said:
no worries... wife and I are both "essential" workers, thus work 8-4 still mon-fri.... so we stick to our 1 episode per night rule (of any show)
I never watched this before until five days ago. Watching 2-4 episodes per night. I'm on 2.3 tonight. Waking up to some wicked dreams . LOL
my bad back and attention span have basically capped me at a 1hr tv show/night.
nelson would've been dead if he botched the job w ben. we saw nelson 20-30ft away from ben. armed.
Why would Nelson not have killed him? I would absolutely hate a swerve like that.
The call would have been made by the cartel in that they were siding with the Byrdes over Helen.
Her ok wasn't needed, they were already after him. She gave him up, which probably factored into them siding with them over Helen regardless.
I agree that Wendy giving Ben up likely factored into the decision to side with the Byrdes. But Ben was such a huge liability, I can't imagine the cartel letting him survive.
No need for it IMO. I hope the writers don't try to over think this. His story arc was just right.
Exactly, Ben was making it out of that episode alive. Whether it was Nelson doing it in quiet manner or the cartel blowing him up in front of the casino, he was going to die.
