**Packers 9-3-1 at Broncos 11-2**(+1, 42.5) 4:25 (3 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

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GO!

 

[travdogg]

A battle of 2 teams in the mix for the #1 seed, but both strike me as not as good as their records. I feel more strongly about Denver in that regard. I think the Packers D makes life tough for the Broncos offense and expect this to be a strong Micah Parsons game. I've liked how often the Packers are lining him up inside, as another wrinkle to the defense.

For Green Bay, Christian Watson is playing his best football post-ACL tear. GB moves their WRs around a ton, so I don't expect Surtain to be locked onto him, and I think anytime its Watson v Moss, they'll take that shot. I'd bet on another TD, even if its maybe a quieter day yardage wise. I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Packers-28
Broncos-14

The AFC is going through New England.

 

[Stoneworker]

I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Denver defense allows the fewest rushing ypc in the NFL

 

[travdogg]

I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Denver defense allows the fewest rushing ypc in the NFL

They are tied for 1st in NY/A against the pass, I would rather attack the Broncos D on the ground if I were Matt LaFleur, was my point.

 

[Stoneworker]

I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Denver defense allows the fewest rushing ypc in the NFL

They are tied for 1st in NY/A against the pass, I would rather attack the Broncos D on the ground if I were Matt LaFleur, was my point.

Fair enough. But you also said "Jacobs could hit some big runs." Why would you believe that against a run D giving up 3.7 ypc on the year?

 

[travdogg]

I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Denver defense allows the fewest rushing ypc in the NFL

They are tied for 1st in NY/A against the pass, I would rather attack the Broncos D on the ground if I were Matt LaFleur, was my point.

Fair enough. But you also said "Jacobs could hit some big runs." What does that imply?

That I think they'll wear them down a bit, and while he won't be consistently gaining yards, he could break a couple big ones, just off volume.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Denver defense allows the fewest rushing ypc in the NFL

They are tied for 1st in NY/A against the pass, I would rather attack the Broncos D on the ground if I were Matt LaFleur, was my point.

Fair enough. But you also said "Jacobs could hit some big runs." Why would you believe that against a run D giving up 3.7 ypc on the year?

Yeah, you're being nice here, that was a backtrack.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Packers D is the heartbeat of the team and if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock, even just the really really bad ones the pass rush will become even more lethal, we'll see if the refs have the stomach for it. Still hurts losing Wyatt, but they're good enough to overcome without too much drop off. I'm officially in the Keisean Nixon fan club. He's not perfect, but I love the way he plays. The guy is a dog.

Offense continues to be efficient. It's a very solid unit and Love still doesn't get the respect he probably deserves. The guy really is playing at a high level. Jacobs put the team on his back to close the game out last week, but he's still not right. Wilson popped up on the injury report with an illness, but if he's good this afternoon i hope he gets a little more run to try and let Jacobs heal up for next week and for the playoff run. Watson is reborn and I'm here for it, another week closer to a full gas Reed, Musgrave caught that pass last week and i hope he keeps making the most of his opportunities.

Packers 24

Broncos 17

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Packers D is the heartbeat of the team and if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock, even just the really really bad ones the pass rush will become even more lethal, we'll see if the refs have the stomach for it. Still hurts losing Wyatt,

I mean, maybe let the game play out before the excuses come out.

It's like, I'm calling a non-call hold on Bonitto now, maybe even TWO, gosh darn it all!

Good luck dude. We'll see how Love does, it's his time now, no excuses.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Packers D is the heartbeat of the team and if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock, even just the really really bad ones the pass rush will become even more lethal, we'll see if the refs have the stomach for it. Still hurts losing Wyatt,

I mean, maybe let the game play out before the excuses come out.

It's like, I'm calling a non-call hold on Bonitto now, maybe even TWO, gosh darn it all!

Good luck dude. We'll see how Love does, it's his time now, no excuses.

Absolutely no excuses made here. Parsons is a beast and he does just fine against bear hugs, headlocks, double and triple teams. If you don't think he's being mugged beyond what is normally called we can agree to disagree, but it hasn't slowed him much and i don't expect it will today either. Would be nice to see the blatant holds called is all and it would make a lethal pass rush that much better

What excuses for Love? My comment is that he's playing great and not getting the respect he deserves. I'm certainly not making an excuse there either.

Good luck to you today aswell. Truthfully I don't know much and Denver outside of highlights. Looking forward to seeing what one of the AFCs best brings against one of the NFCs.

Edit. The website is wonky and i got cut off, but the end of the quote about Wyatt wasn't an excuse either, but a compliment to the D not skipping a beat. The part you quoted cut that off and maybe that wasn't intentional either, but definitely not an excuse.

 

[Jppaul]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Lol ..

Another week another big Broncos game against one of the NFLs top teams. Broncos are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.



Everything @The Longtime Lurker said could be said about Denver

 

[JohnnyU]

I know not many are recommending Love today, but the Broncos are good against the run too. I'm looking for a 24-21 type of game and I think Jordan Love gets at least two passing TDs. He probably has a floor of 15 pts, mid range of 18, and if you get 20+ treat it as gravy.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Lol ..

Another week another big Broncos game against one of the NFLs top teams. Broncos are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.



Everything @The Longtime Lurker said could be said about Denver

Denver fan base sounds fired up today!!! It's cute.

 

[Jppaul]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Lol ..

Another week another big Broncos game against one of the NFLs top teams. Broncos are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.



Everything @The Longtime Lurker said could be said about Denver

Packers fan base sounds fired up today!!! It's cute.

FIFY

 

[The Kerminator]

Micah Parsons hasn't received a holding call against him since week 3


@AdamSchefter


Green Bay’s Micah Parsons now has rushed the passer 307 times since the last time he got a holding penalty on a pass rush in Week 3, per ESPN’s ace researcher
@EpKap
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[Stoneworker]

It is amazing that the current #1 seed in the NFL...on a 10-game winning streak...playing at home where they haven't lost in 14 months...is an underdog

We'll see how that translates to the field but no doubt the Broncos will play with a massive chip on their shoulder

 

[chad in Indy]

I think Josh Jacobs (who seems like he's playing) could hit some big runs against a Broncos defense that's better against the pass than the run (though that may be changing with Greenlaw)

Denver defense allows the fewest rushing ypc in the NFL

They are tied for 1st in NY/A against the pass, I would rather attack the Broncos D on the ground if I were Matt LaFleur, was my point.

Fair enough. But you also said "Jacobs could hit some big runs." What does that imply?

That I think they'll wear them down a bit, and while he won't be consistently gaining yards, he could break a couple big ones, just off volume.

was really hoping they would rest Jacobs this week............

 

[renesauz]

Game of the day IMO. I expect Denver to win a close one at home. Something like 27-23

 

[My_Bench_Scores_More]

Is everyone starting Jacobs today?

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Packers D is the heartbeat of the team and if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock, even just the really really bad ones the pass rush will become even more lethal, we'll see if the refs have the stomach for it. Still hurts losing Wyatt,

I mean, maybe let the game play out before the excuses come out.

It's like, I'm calling a non-call hold on Bonitto now, maybe even TWO, gosh darn it all!

Good luck dude. We'll see how Love does, it's his time now, no excuses.

Absolutely no excuses made here. Parsons is a beast and he does just fine against bear hugs, headlocks, double and triple teams. If you don't think he's being mugged beyond what is normally called we can agree to disagree, but it hasn't slowed him much and i don't expect it will today either. Would be nice to see the blatant holds called is all and it would make a lethal pass rush that much better

What excuses for Love? My comment is that he's playing great and not getting the respect he deserves. I'm certainly not making an excuse there either.

Good luck to you today aswell. Truthfully I don't know much and Denver outside of highlights. Looking forward to seeing what one of the AFCs best brings against one of the NFCs.

Edit. The website is wonky and i got cut off, but the end of the quote about Wyatt wasn't an excuse either, but a compliment to the D not skipping a beat. The part you quoted cut that off and maybe that wasn't intentional either, but definitely not an excuse.

I was referring to this:

"if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock"

Um, nothing's happened yet and you're calling for a flag or two FOR Parsons, claiming they are going to put him in headlocks.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

As for my comment regarding Love having no excuses. It's just addressing your preconceived notions on excuses. Meant to be somewhat funny.

Look, Love has had forever to "develop". If the Denver D has their way with him, I don't want to hear how great the D was and it was on the road. If he's great, these are the games he wins now. No excuses.

 

[The Kerminator]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Packers D is the heartbeat of the team and if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock, even just the really really bad ones the pass rush will become even more lethal, we'll see if the refs have the stomach for it. Still hurts losing Wyatt,

I mean, maybe let the game play out before the excuses come out.

It's like, I'm calling a non-call hold on Bonitto now, maybe even TWO, gosh darn it all!

Good luck dude. We'll see how Love does, it's his time now, no excuses.

Absolutely no excuses made here. Parsons is a beast and he does just fine against bear hugs, headlocks, double and triple teams. If you don't think he's being mugged beyond what is normally called we can agree to disagree, but it hasn't slowed him much and i don't expect it will today either. Would be nice to see the blatant holds called is all and it would make a lethal pass rush that much better

What excuses for Love? My comment is that he's playing great and not getting the respect he deserves. I'm certainly not making an excuse there either.

Good luck to you today aswell. Truthfully I don't know much and Denver outside of highlights. Looking forward to seeing what one of the AFCs best brings against one of the NFCs.

Edit. The website is wonky and i got cut off, but the end of the quote about Wyatt wasn't an excuse either, but a compliment to the D not skipping a beat. The part you quoted cut that off and maybe that wasn't intentional either, but definitely not an excuse.

I was referring to this:

"if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock"

Um, nothing's happened yet and you're calling for a flag or two FOR Parsons, claiming they are going to put him in headlocks.

No it's a reference to last week's game

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Another week another big Packer game against one of the NFLs top teams. Packers are again at their best as they have been all year against good competition with a national audience. Frustrating as they continue to play to the level of their competition, but as the playoffs approach competition only gets stiffer so it's becoming a good problem as the soft part of the schedule is long gone.

Packers D is the heartbeat of the team and if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock, even just the really really bad ones the pass rush will become even more lethal, we'll see if the refs have the stomach for it. Still hurts losing Wyatt,

I mean, maybe let the game play out before the excuses come out.

It's like, I'm calling a non-call hold on Bonitto now, maybe even TWO, gosh darn it all!

Good luck dude. We'll see how Love does, it's his time now, no excuses.

Absolutely no excuses made here. Parsons is a beast and he does just fine against bear hugs, headlocks, double and triple teams. If you don't think he's being mugged beyond what is normally called we can agree to disagree, but it hasn't slowed him much and i don't expect it will today either. Would be nice to see the blatant holds called is all and it would make a lethal pass rush that much better

What excuses for Love? My comment is that he's playing great and not getting the respect he deserves. I'm certainly not making an excuse there either.

Good luck to you today aswell. Truthfully I don't know much and Denver outside of highlights. Looking forward to seeing what one of the AFCs best brings against one of the NFCs.

Edit. The website is wonky and i got cut off, but the end of the quote about Wyatt wasn't an excuse either, but a compliment to the D not skipping a beat. The part you quoted cut that off and maybe that wasn't intentional either, but definitely not an excuse.

I was referring to this:

"if we can get a hold or two called when Parsons is in a headlock"

Um, nothing's happened yet and you're calling for a flag or two FOR Parsons, claiming they are going to put him in headlocks.

You're reading that one wrong. It was in reference to last week and previous weeks. But if he's in a headlock today i do hope it's called.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

As for my comment regarding Love having no excuses. It's just addressing your preconceived notions on excuses. Meant to be somewhat funny.

Look, Love has had forever to "develop". If the Denver D has their way with him, I don't want to hear how great the D was and it was on the road. If he's great, these are the games he wins now. No excuses.

There were no excuses. It was light hearted about the season so far, I'm not even sure i mentioned much about today's game. Gonna move on from this since I'm not even sure what it's about.

Enjoy the game, enjoy the holidays. GO PACK GO!!

 

[Harry Frogfish]

This is an UNDER.

 

[Snoopy]

There was just a pre-game fight.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Great drive. Love looking sharp so far today. Happy to get points.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Jacobs!!! Wow

 

[sho nuff]

Incredible catch by Jacobs

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Great game so far. Two really good teams.

 

[Stoneworker]

Vance Joseph gonna turn up the heat in the second half

 

[Stoneworker]

Total horsesh*t call on Moss. Completely changed the game

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Nice to see Jacobs getting going heading into the end of the season.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Anytime a team gets a whiff of we’re #1, down they go

 

[Gjallarhorn]

First time watching Denver this year. Pretty rough looking so far. Defense looks very, very mid. A lot of guys running wide open. Give up a lot of huge plays.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I thought about benching Jacobs for Chuba because of the matchup against Denver, briefly… Glad I didn’t. I will never be able to predict this crazy game.

 

[Desert_Power]

Wow, Surtain

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

First time watching Denver this year. Pretty rough looking so far. Defense looks very, very mid. A lot of guys running wide open. Give up a lot of huge plays.

They’ve been scary good all year. This is definitely a flukey outlier.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Well that sucks. Watson hurt is just brutal

 

[irish eyes]

Well that sucks. Watson hurt is just brutal

Made of glass.

 

[Insein]

Oof. Parsons non contact knee injury.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Parsons down non contact. That's terrible to see. Wow

 

[karl.Racki]

That was brutal to watch.. My God.. Prayers for Micah

 

[karl.Racki]

Parsons walking to the lockeroom is a good sign?

 

[Guss]

Packers will never win a thing with Lafleur as their coach, he just does not have what it takes to lead a team to a championship

Love also for that matter, he just is not good enough, makes mistakes that over rule any good he does

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Parsons walking to the lockeroom is a good sign?

Not necessarily. Players can typically walk on a torn [insert ligament here] - imma say it’s neutral at best.

 

[irish eyes]

Wow, Lafleur must be blind. Nice waste of a timeout.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Love is just a choke looking for a job in close games. Because wtf.

 

[Insein]

Going for it wasn't bad. That play call was terrible though

 

[Willy]

Stupid going for it on 4th there. Though I suppose they think the defense has the game under control.