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Pacman DROPS appeal after 2nd private meeting with Goodell (1 Viewer)

"I think it was a little bit harsh," Jones said. "I expected the suspension, but for a whole year for a guy that hadn't been charged with nothing? I really didn't agree with it. But for the most part, I'm taking it like a man. I'm going to appeal it. We'll see what the future brings."

that's funny...

edited to add: they should only suspend him for 8 games for conduct detrimental to the league and 2-4 games for stupidity !

 
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Considering he hasn't been charged with anything I think it's a bit ridiculous.

That being said, PacMan clearly needs a message sent to him so I don't mind all that much.

 
LINK: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2837173

Frankly, I agree here. I think he should have been suspended, but the year was too harsh...Now, if he gets in trouble again: Hit him with a year.
Oh yes, the 17th or whatever time will be the one that breaks the camel's back. This thug earned this. Don't give me that lawyer talk that he hasn't officially been accused of anything. He'll get caught doing another crime within the next calendar year. Is there really a reason to belive otherwise? He has tainted the Titans and the NFL bad enough. He deserves 2 years, not just 1, but this will do.
 
"Any appeal would be heard and decided by Goodell."

Hmmmm doesn't bode well for Mr Jones.

 
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depending on the legal aftermath of the "make it rain" fiasco which left a security guard paralyzed, the NFL suspension could be the least of his worries... but if that turns bad, he'll be the best press corner/return artist for the mean machine...

 
he needs to take the suspension and start getting his issues fixed so by week 10 he can get the suspension lifted. I would ust take my punishment. He would look better by doing so.

 
This kid just doesnt get it. You would think someone would have hit him upside the head by now.
Just like the Duke Kids did not get it???? In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. O wait we are not due to the media coverage and how they want to have the story playout.
 
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After hearing his appeal, Goodell ought to increase the penalty to 20 games.

 
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This kid just doesnt get it. You would think someone would have hit him upside the head by now.
Just like the Duke Kids did not get it???? In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. O wait we are not due to the media coverage and how they want to have the story playout.
You gotta be kidding. Ask the guy who is gonna spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair and see what he thinks.
 
This kid just doesnt get it. You would think someone would have hit him upside the head by now.
Just like the Duke Kids did not get it???? In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. O wait we are not due to the media coverage and how they want to have the story playout.
:goodposting: Whatever.The NFL is a career. He is making his “employer” look like crap. They removed him from his position for awhile. Are they harsh with their sentencing? You bet. And I am glad to see it. This boy is nothing but trouble. I am sick of players (not just in the NFL) taking advantage of the privilege of playing professional sports (something we would all love to do). “It’s the media damn-it”Yeah, okay.Also, there is a slight difference in your analogy of PacMan and the Duke players.
 
Considering he hasn't been charged with anything I think it's a bit ridiculous.
This kid just doesnt get it. You would think someone would have hit him upside the head by now.
Just like the Duke Kids did not get it???? In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. O wait we are not due to the media coverage and how they want to have the story playout.
He didn't get the suspension just for the Vegas incident. He got it for the 10 arrests since he entered the league, the at least two times he's made a plea deal and the at least one time he's violated his probation. The Vegas incident was just the final straw.
 
This kid just doesnt get it. You would think someone would have hit him upside the head by now.
Just like the Duke Kids did not get it???? In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. O wait we are not due to the media coverage and how they want to have the story playout.
Just because Al Sharpie and Jesse Jackson won't apologize doesn't mean those guys did it. We all know Adam Jones did it because of his 10+ arrests. Who gets arrested 10 freakin' times? Prisoners, that's who.
 
He gets paid like a CEO of a major corporation. He is the face of the franchise he plays for (unfortunately, not in a good way). He hangs out in titty bars showering strippers with dollar bills. He hangs out with criminals.

I think his employer has the right to expect that he avoids situations that would have the appearance of impropriety. As an example, don't drink and drive if you are working for the NFL. Not don't drive intoxicated, but simply don't consume alcohol and drive. Another example, don't loan your vehicle to others if you have any inkling they use drugs. Just maybe they are going to leave behind gifts in the ash tray.

He is not a self-employed rapper, he has someone he has to answer to.

My opinion, he is not a football player that plays at being a thug. He is a thug that plays at being a football player.

 
He and Henry probably are the "poster boys" but that's because they put their mugshots into this mess to begin with. Completely ignoring the fact that his actions led to the NFL's reaction seems to be pretty much what Adam has done for a long time. His actions have consequences he needs to wake up to that fact.

 
LINK: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2837173

Frankly, I agree here. I think he should have been suspended, but the year was too harsh...Now, if he gets in trouble again: Hit him with a year.
Oh yes, the 17th or whatever time will be the one that breaks the camel's back. This thug earned this. Don't give me that lawyer talk that he hasn't officially been accused of anything. He'll get caught doing another crime within the next calendar year. Is there really a reason to belive otherwise? He has tainted the Titans and the NFL bad enough. He deserves 2 years, not just 1, but this will do.
The problem here is that there are many others in the league both past and present who have also "earned this" yet they did not receive the same punishment. I completely disagree with punishing people in different ways just to make a point. A big :loco: to the NFL on this whole issue.
 
LINK: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2837173

Frankly, I agree here. I think he should have been suspended, but the year was too harsh...Now, if he gets in trouble again: Hit him with a year.
Oh yes, the 17th or whatever time will be the one that breaks the camel's back. This thug earned this. Don't give me that lawyer talk that he hasn't officially been accused of anything. He'll get caught doing another crime within the next calendar year. Is there really a reason to belive otherwise? He has tainted the Titans and the NFL bad enough. He deserves 2 years, not just 1, but this will do.
The problem here is that there are many others in the league both past and present who have also "earned this" yet they did not receive the same punishment. I completely disagree with punishing people in different ways just to make a point. A big :loco: to the NFL on this whole issue.
New policies have to start somewhere, right? I would say if future situations where not handled in the same manor then that would be something to get worked about. I can't see how the NFL could justify going back in time and rehashing all those other situations.
 
I think Pac was going to to get suspended because he didn't report 2 of his arrests. It also didn't help that a police officer went on record after he found marijuana in Pac's possession....Vegas just proved he was a huge idiot. "Make it rain"... :useless:

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?...mp;provider=top

According to Mike Pruitt of the Fayette County (Ga.) Drug Task Force, when he arrested Jones and three others on charges of marijuana possession, Jones told him he wouldn't be able to pass a drug test at that time, but he'd be able to when he was tested by the NFL.

"He said, 'I know when I am going to get drug-tested, so I quit doing it,' " said Pruitt, who added, "I think the NFL needs a new drug policy."

It's hearsay, but the funniest thought I had...

Pac-Man Jones, Chris Henry, and Tank Johnson arguing over who inspired the new stricter code of conduct policy in the NFL. The Pac-Man standing up and saying on National TV "I'm the poster boy"...what a moron.

Nobody wants to be anywhere near that poster, and to be in the discussion should be a wake-up call.

Pac does not get it and playing the victim is idiotic, get a clue. Stay off TV, and away from reporters. If he would have brought his agent instead of security last night he would have kept his mouth shut and watched a fight. His own security can't protect him from himself.

 
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Considering he hasn't been charged with anything I think it's a bit ridiculous.

That being said, PacMan clearly needs a message sent to him so I don't mind all that much.
LHUCKS, I can't believe you and I almost agree on something...

Seriously, 10 arrests are media hype. Sure Pac is not Ned Flanders. He has been in trouble and has a temper.

Here are the arrests/allegations:

July 13, 2005: Jones is arrested & charged with assault and vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation (fight in which be broke a guy's necklace).
Feb. 6, 2006: Jones is arrested on a drug & obstruction charge. The drug charge is dismissed in January 2007. H will appear in court later this month to face the obstruction charges.
Aug. 25, 2006: Jones is arrested for disorderly conduct and public intoxication...accused of assault by Toya Garth, who says Jones spit in her face and she spit back. A judge sentences Jones six months probation provided he stays out of further trouble.
Oct. 26, 2006: Jones is cited for misdemeanor assault at Club Mystic, a Nashville nightclub, where he allegedly spits in the face of a female college student.
Feb. 19, 2007: Jones is present when an early morning brawl breaks out at Minxx Gentlemen's Club in Las Vegas. Three people are shot. Club co-owner Robert Susnar claims the shooter -- still at large -- acted on Jones' behalf. Jones denies this. No charges have been brought against Jones.All in all PacMan's rap record = assault/vandalism, alleged obstruction, spitting x 2, and the alleged Vegas Stripper Rain Man incident...

Chris Henry was arrested four times in a 14-month span between December 2005 and June 2006:

Marijuana possession (pleaded guilty)
Carrying a concealed weapon (pleaded guilty)
Providing alcohol to minor females
DUI (charge was reduced to reckless operation in a plea deal).So, when you compare what Jones has done vs Henry's record, does DOUBLE the punishment really wash here? :o I dont' think so... :mellow:

 
It looks like allot of the posters here are a dumb a Pac Mac.
I doubt it, there's always a couple people who will go on fishing trips. It's funny but we are forgetting Goodell has said that if Pacman is convicted of these crime(s) the punishment of 1 year may not be the end. If he is convicted of a felony I wouldn't be shocked if he's banned for life, perhaps Pacman should wise up and try and not piss off the NFL anymore, starting with dropping his feeble attempt at an appeal. What are the chances that Goodell is going to reverse it, I'd say none.
 
Maybe the league thought if the gave PAC-MAN 8 games that he would appeal and and get it reduced to 4 which is not very harsh for what he has done. I think they were thinking that if they suspended him for the whole year and he appealed which he is going to that it might get reduced to 8 or 10 games and that would be a worthy punishment, IMO.

 
Here are the arrests/allegations: July 13, 2005: Jones is arrested & charged with assault and vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation (fight in which be broke a guy's necklace).Feb. 6, 2006: Jones is arrested on a drug & obstruction charge. The drug charge is dismissed in January 2007. H will appear in court later this month to face the obstruction charges.Aug. 25, 2006: Jones is arrested for disorderly conduct and public intoxication...accused of assault by Toya Garth, who says Jones spit in her face and she spit back. A judge sentences Jones six months probation provided he stays out of further trouble.Oct. 26, 2006: Jones is cited for misdemeanor assault at Club Mystic, a Nashville nightclub, where he allegedly spits in the face of a female college student.Feb. 19, 2007: Jones is present when an early morning brawl breaks out at Minxx Gentlemen's Club in Las Vegas. Three people are shot. Club co-owner Robert Susnar claims the shooter -- still at large -- acted on Jones' behalf. Jones denies this. No charges have been brought against Jones.All in all PacMan's rap record = assault/vandalism, alleged obstruction, spitting x 2, and the alleged Vegas Stripper Rain Man incident...Chris Henry was arrested four times in a 14-month span between December 2005 and June 2006:Marijuana possession (pleaded guilty)Carrying a concealed weapon (pleaded guilty)Providing alcohol to minor femalesDUI (charge was reduced to reckless operation in a plea deal).So, when you compare what Jones has done vs Henry's record, does DOUBLE the punishment really wash here? I dont' think so
:fishy:
 
he needs to take the suspension and start getting his issues fixed so by week 10 he can get the suspension lifted. I would ust take my punishment. He would look better by doing so.
:fishy: I completely agree. Is Pac-Man a "poster boy"? Absolutely. It is high past time that the NFL send a message, and he's first in line to get it. NFL players need to start understanding that, strange as it may sound, they're not really hired to play football - they're hired to sell tickets. Playing football better than anyone else is certainly the special skill that allows them to do their job effectively, but let's not kid ourselves - their job is bringing in the $$$ to their multiple employers (including the NFL, their team owner and their sponsors). If it was just about playing football - if being a public "face" had nothing to do with it - then they wouldn't have their name on the back of the jersey. Being in the public eye is part of the job, and yes - sometimes, it is very, VERY hard... but that's why you're making millions of dollars. "Criminal activity" and "employment" are not tied hand-in-hand; just because you weren't found guilty by a legal court doesn't mean you're suddenly innocent in the court of public opinion. It may not be fair, but the NFL sells image - not conviction records.I think that Goodell did a perfect job of giving Pac-Man a chance to redeem himself, while still taking the long overdue hardline stance with the players; whether Pac-Man decides to take advantage of the situation, though, is entirely up to him.
 
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Why do people think he needs to be charged with anything? :fishy: this isn't the judicial system, they don't need a conviction to suspend him.

And I can't even conceive why somebody would bring the Duke lacrosse kids up. Absolutely nothing to do with this.

 
Not only does he deserve to be on the poster, but he should also be on the cover of EA's "NFL Thug 2008".

 
Maybe the league thought if the gave PAC-MAN 8 games that he would appeal and and get it reduced to 4 which is not very harsh for what he has done. I think they were thinking that if they suspended him for the whole year and he appealed which he is going to that it might get reduced to 8 or 10 games and that would be a worthy punishment, IMO.
Apparently, the whole process is somewhat of a sham as Goodell is judge, jury, executioner, and appellate judge. :lmao: I would not want to be a member of that system of "justice". :lmao:

 
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Maybe the league thought if the gave PAC-MAN 8 games that he would appeal and and get it reduced to 4 which is not very harsh for what he has done. I think they were thinking that if they suspended him for the whole year and he appealed which he is going to that it might get reduced to 8 or 10 games and that would be a worthy punishment, IMO.
Apparently, the whole process is somewhat of a sham as Goodell is judge, jury, executioner, and appellate judge. :goodposting: I would not want to be a member of that system of "justice". :goodposting:
Tell Pacman to go play in the Arena league then.
 
Just a little nugget that hasn't been mentioned:

Jones was charged in February 2006 with felony obstruction of police. Fayette County prosecutor Scott Ballard said he has no intentions of dismissing the case that involved Jones biting an officer between his thumb and index finger.

I'm just curious how many people reading this forum have bit an officer?

 
Maybe the league thought if the gave PAC-MAN 8 games that he would appeal and and get it reduced to 4 which is not very harsh for what he has done. I think they were thinking that if they suspended him for the whole year and he appealed which he is going to that it might get reduced to 8 or 10 games and that would be a worthy punishment, IMO.
Apparently, the whole process is somewhat of a sham as Goodell is judge, jury, executioner, and appellate judge. :hey: I would not want to be a member of that system of "justice". :goodposting:
Well, you and all who agree with you are free not to play in the NFL. :goodposting:
 
He gets paid like a CEO of a major corporation.
No he doesn't.
He is the face of the franchise he plays for (unfortunately, not in a good way).
No he isn't.
He hangs out in titty bars showering strippers with dollar bills. He hangs out with criminals.
There's nothing wrong with either of these things. A large number of young men do this, too.
I think his employer has the right to expect that he avoids situations that would have the appearance of impropriety.
Well his employer has the right to draw up a contract that says this. Either way, this is irrelevant: his employer did not suspend him.
As an example, don't drink and drive if you are working for the NFL. Not don't drive intoxicated, but simply don't consume alcohol and drive. Another example, don't loan your vehicle to others if you have any inkling they use drugs. Just maybe they are going to leave behind gifts in the ash tray.

He is not a self-employed rapper, he has someone he has to answer to.
His employer is not suspending him.
My opinion, he is not a football player that plays at being a thug. He is a thug that plays at being a football player.
OK.
 
It is high past time that the NFL send a message, and he's first in line to get it. NFL players need to start understanding that, strange as it may sound, they're not really hired to play football - they're hired to sell tickets. Playing football better than anyone else is certainly the special skill that allows them to do their job effectively, but let's not kid ourselves - their job is bringing in the $$$ to their multiple employers (including the NFL, their team owner and their sponsors). If it was just about playing football - if being a public "face" had nothing to do with it - then they wouldn't have their name on the back of the jersey. Being in the public eye is part of the job, and yes - sometimes, it is very, VERY hard... but that's why you're making millions of dollars. "Criminal activity" and "employment" are not tied hand-in-hand; just because you weren't found guilty by a legal court doesn't mean you're suddenly innocent in the court of public opinion. It may not be fair, but the NFL sells image - not conviction records.I think that Goodell did a perfect job of giving Pac-Man a chance to redeem himself, while still taking the long overdue hardline stance with the players; whether Pac-Man decides to take advantage of the situation, though, is entirely up to him.
His employer isn't suspending him. Have you heard Bud Adams once say "Pac-Man Jones is not doing what I pay him to do; that is, sell tickets." I haven't.
 
Why do people think he needs to be charged with anything? :angry: this isn't the judicial system, they don't need a conviction to suspend him.
There's a big difference between what someone can do and what someone should do. Roger Goodell could suspend Tom Brady tomorrow for having really bad hair. Remember, he doesn't need a conviction to suspend him.But having the ability to do something doesn't mean you should do it. I don't think a policy that requires a conviction before a suspension is absurd at all. I'm not saying that's what the system should be, but I don't see anything terribly wrong with it, either.
And I can't even conceive why somebody would bring the Duke lacrosse kids up. Absolutely nothing to do with this.
You're smart enough to conceive it, so I think you're just playing devil's advocate here. If you ask people what Pac-Man did, most people would say "he did something in Vegas and I think he's got some minor drug and/or car violations." That's it. People don't really know what he did, and we certainly don't know what he did in Vegas. Well, no one knew what happened in the Duke LAX case, either, but the media and the public turned on them pretty quickly. In retrospect, we shouldn't have presumed them guilty with limited knowledge. Since most of us could care less whether Jones has a small amount of marijuana on his person or goes over the speed limit, the only thing most people have is the Vegas incident. And we have limited knowledge, making that a good comparison. Except the Duke lacrosse players come from very rich, white parents and are pretty smart, while Jones comes from abject poverty, both his parents died early, and by all counts, isn't very smart.
 
He hangs out in titty bars showering strippers with dollar bills. He hangs out with criminals.
There's nothing wrong with either of these things. A large number of young men do this, too.
you're joking, right?how many of these young men are role models?
I'm not joking. Do you really disagree with this? I have no idea what you mean by your second question. I also don't know who thinks Pac-Man Jones (or my friends who hang out in titty bars and with criminals) is a role model.
 

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