Panthers restructure DeShaun Foster's contract. (1 Viewer)

[Rev]

He resuctured his 2007 pay for $750,000 (+ $1.5 million roster bonus + $2 million "signing" bonus) most likely they told him he would be cut if he didn't sign.

You don't understand the salary cap if you think that. Most likely Foster knew signing the deal wuld ensure he was with the team another year. Not because they "held a gun to his head" but because the deal would make it more difficult financially for them to cut him this year.Think about it... if they cut him, he's have another job immediately, with the number of teams needing a running back. Buffalo, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, all would be quick to sign him if he was cut. And in most of those places, he'd walk in as the starter.

I can't think of a single team upon which Foster would be a shoe in to start. Minnesota and Green Bay have Taylor and Morency, Oakland has Rhodes and Jordan, Cleveland has Droughns, all of whom have looked better than Foster, IMO. I suppose you could make a case for Buffalo and Tenn, but I wouldn't assume he would automatically start over A Train or LenDale White. And, we're assuming that those teams don't draft a RB, which is probably not a fair assumption.

 

[KellysHeroes]

He resuctured his 2007 pay for $750,000 (+ $1.5 million roster bonus + $2 million "signing" bonus) most likely they told him he would be cut if he didn't sign.

You don't understand the salary cap if you think that. Most likely Foster knew signing the deal wuld ensure he was with the team another year. Not because they "held a gun to his head" but because the deal would make it more difficult financially for them to cut him this year.Think about it... if they cut him, he's have another job immediately, with the number of teams needing a running back. Buffalo, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, all would be quick to sign him if he was cut. And in most of those places, he'd walk in as the starter.

ummmm... is that what I said

 

[Traders2001]

He resuctured his 2007 pay for $750,000 (+ $1.5 million roster bonus + $2 million "signing" bonus) most likely they told him he would be cut if he didn't sign.

You don't understand the salary cap if you think that. Most likely Foster knew signing the deal wuld ensure he was with the team another year. Not because they "held a gun to his head" but because the deal would make it more difficult financially for them to cut him this year.Think about it... if they cut him, he's have another job immediately, with the number of teams needing a running back. Buffalo, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, all would be quick to sign him if he was cut. And in most of those places, he'd walk in as the starter.

ummmm... is that what I said

You forgot Atlanta as a team needing a RB.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Foster would not restructuring the contract if he thought he was still going to be carrying the bulk of the workload IMO.

 

[David Yudkin]

Foster would not restructuring the contract if he thought he was still going to be carrying the bulk of the workload IMO.

Let's try this again . . .Foster gets THE SAME amount of money either way. In fact, it HELPS his cause because they now gave him way more money UP FRONT as a bonus then if it were paid in weekly salary checks. Again, he did not restrutcure AT A REDUCED RATE, which is what happens for people that will be going from a starter to a backup.Case in point. The Patriots wanted to acquire Randy Moss. They couldn't fit his salary under the salary cap. Tom Brady "restructured" his contract by converting deferred money and salary into a bonus to make salary cap space to sign Moss. Does that mean Brady is going to become a backup because he "renegotiated?"Foster freed up some 2007 cap space for the Panthers. That's it. But now if the Panthers want to release him they would take a much bigger cap hit.Face it, Foster's role does not change by him simply changing the accounting of his salary/bonus.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Foster would not restructuring the contract if he thought he was still going to be carrying the bulk of the workload IMO.

Let's try this again . . .Foster gets THE SAME amount of money either way. In fact, it HELPS his cause because they now gave him way more money UP FRONT as a bonus then if it were paid in weekly salary checks. Again, he did not restrutcure AT A REDUCED RATE, which is what happens for people that will be going from a starter to a backup.Case in point. The Patriots wanted to acquire Randy Moss. They couldn't fit his salary under the salary cap. Tom Brady "restructured" his contract by converting deferred money and salary into a bonus to make salary cap space to sign Moss. Does that mean Brady is going to become a backup because he "renegotiated?"Foster freed up some 2007 cap space for the Panthers. That's it. But now if the Panthers want to release him they would take a much bigger cap hit.Face it, Foster's role does not change by him simply changing the accounting of his salary/bonus.

"The jerk store called last night and they're running out of you."

 

[David Yudkin]

Foster would not restructuring the contract if he thought he was still going to be carrying the bulk of the workload IMO.

Let's try this again . . .Foster gets THE SAME amount of money either way. In fact, it HELPS his cause because they now gave him way more money UP FRONT as a bonus then if it were paid in weekly salary checks. Again, he did not restrutcure AT A REDUCED RATE, which is what happens for people that will be going from a starter to a backup.Case in point. The Patriots wanted to acquire Randy Moss. They couldn't fit his salary under the salary cap. Tom Brady "restructured" his contract by converting deferred money and salary into a bonus to make salary cap space to sign Moss. Does that mean Brady is going to become a backup because he "renegotiated?"Foster freed up some 2007 cap space for the Panthers. That's it. But now if the Panthers want to release him they would take a much bigger cap hit.Face it, Foster's role does not change by him simply changing the accounting of his salary/bonus.

"The jerk store called last night and they're running out of you."

Williams very well may win the starting job outright in Carolina (or he may inherit it when Foster gets hurt again). All I'm saying is that Foster helping the team free up some salary space is not an example of why Williams will be the starter this year.What I find interesting (and this likely has nothing to do with you), is that in circumstances when players DO take a huge paycut, sometimes people view that as a team's endorsement of that player. Most recently, this pertains to Droughns in New York. The Giants got him to renegotiate and take half as much money with the only way for him to recoup any of the money would be by meeting performance bonuses (which he likely will not ever see). Yet some people are saying that he will be the starter for the Giants. I don't see why someone would agree to take a huge pay cut unless they were told that they would not be a full time player.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Foster would not restructuring the contract if he thought he was still going to be carrying the bulk of the workload IMO.

Let's try this again . . .Foster gets THE SAME amount of money either way. In fact, it HELPS his cause because they now gave him way more money UP FRONT as a bonus then if it were paid in weekly salary checks. Again, he did not restrutcure AT A REDUCED RATE, which is what happens for people that will be going from a starter to a backup.Case in point. The Patriots wanted to acquire Randy Moss. They couldn't fit his salary under the salary cap. Tom Brady "restructured" his contract by converting deferred money and salary into a bonus to make salary cap space to sign Moss. Does that mean Brady is going to become a backup because he "renegotiated?"Foster freed up some 2007 cap space for the Panthers. That's it. But now if the Panthers want to release him they would take a much bigger cap hit.Face it, Foster's role does not change by him simply changing the accounting of his salary/bonus.

"The jerk store called last night and they're running out of you."

Williams very well may win the starting job outright in Carolina (or he may inherit it when Foster gets hurt again). All I'm saying is that Foster helping the team free up some salary space is not an example of why Williams will be the starter this year.What I find interesting (and this likely has nothing to do with you), is that in circumstances when players DO take a huge paycut, sometimes people view that as a team's endorsement of that player. Most recently, this pertains to Droughns in New York. The Giants got him to renegotiate and take half as much money with the only way for him to recoup any of the money would be by meeting performance bonuses (which he likely will not ever see). Yet some people are saying that he will be the starter for the Giants. I don't see why someone would agree to take a huge pay cut unless they were told that they would not be a full time player.

Agreed

 

[KellysHeroes]

1 year later... it happens; Foster is gone

 

[Chunky Soup]

1 year later... it happens; Foster is gone

Couldn't you have just posted in the other thread? Or did you want everyone to see how sweet you really are?