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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Adam Vinatieri's father, Paul, said last night that his son wanted to remain with the Patriots in the worst way.
''He loved the fans there," the elder Vinatieri said from his home in South Dakota. ''They treated him so well. He'll never forget that, but the Colts treated him very well in their talks. They were straightforward and upfront and were able to get it done quickly with Adam, who really appreciated their interest in him."
Isnt the 2nd paragraph a little contradictory to the 1st paragraph?
I cant say it strong enough. ADAM, GO SCREW YOURSELF!!
''He loved the fans there," the elder Vinatieri said from his home in South Dakota. ''They treated him so well. He'll never forget that, but the Colts treated him very well in their talks. They were straightforward and upfront and were able to get it done quickly with Adam, who really appreciated their interest in him."
Isnt the 2nd paragraph a little contradictory to the 1st paragraph?
I cant say it strong enough. ADAM, GO SCREW YOURSELF!!
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Patriots sign RB Heath Evans
Len Pasquarelli
3/23/2006
The New England Patriots on Thursday re-signed running back Heath Evans to a one-year contract, ESPN.com has learned. Evans is a combination back, a runner with the physique of a fullback but the skill of a tailback, and he is most effective playing in a one-back formation.
Evans, 27, was a third-round choice of Seattle in 2001, and spent the first four seasons of his career with the Seahawks, before signing with Miami last spring. He was released by the Dolphins and signed with the Patriots, at a point when New England's backfield was decimated by injuries.
In 73 games, including four starts, Evans has rushed for 300 yards on 85 carries. With the Patriots in '05, he carried 52 times for 192 yards, appearing in 12 games and starting three of them.
http://sports.espn.go.com
Just the signing you Pat fans were waiting for
Len Pasquarelli
3/23/2006
The New England Patriots on Thursday re-signed running back Heath Evans to a one-year contract, ESPN.com has learned. Evans is a combination back, a runner with the physique of a fullback but the skill of a tailback, and he is most effective playing in a one-back formation.
Evans, 27, was a third-round choice of Seattle in 2001, and spent the first four seasons of his career with the Seahawks, before signing with Miami last spring. He was released by the Dolphins and signed with the Patriots, at a point when New England's backfield was decimated by injuries.
In 73 games, including four starts, Evans has rushed for 300 yards on 85 carries. With the Patriots in '05, he carried 52 times for 192 yards, appearing in 12 games and starting three of them.
http://sports.espn.go.com
Just the signing you Pat fans were waiting for
nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots | Team makes inquiry about Moulds
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:50:15 -0800
Nick Cafardo, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots have made an informal initial inquiry about Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds, who has been given permission to seek a trade after he wouldn't take a cut in pay.
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:50:15 -0800
Nick Cafardo, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots have made an informal initial inquiry about Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds, who has been given permission to seek a trade after he wouldn't take a cut in pay.
nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots | Team agrees to terms with S. Neal
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:13:27 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports sources said the New England Patriots have agreed to terms with one of their own free agents, OL Stephen Neal (Patriots), on an undisclosed contract.
Patriots | Team agrees to terms with T. Brown
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:12:54 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports sources said the New England Patriots have agreed to terms with one of their own free agents, WR Troy Brown (Patriots), on an undisclosed contract.
More on Brown: Patriots start homing in
Team sources said Patriots owner Robert Kraft, after the departures of Willie McGinest and Adam Vinatieri, stepped into the negotiations to help retain the 34-year-old Brown. Kraft has allowed Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli to run the business side of football, but with the losses of two of his favorites, Kraft wanted Brown to know the Patriots cared about keeping him.
With the Jets tugging at Brown, perhaps to assume the vacated role of retired Wayne Chrebet, the allure was tempting not only because of Mangini but because of old friend Curtis Martin. But Brown had promised his family he'd stay with the Patriots or retire.
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:13:27 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports sources said the New England Patriots have agreed to terms with one of their own free agents, OL Stephen Neal (Patriots), on an undisclosed contract.
Patriots | Team agrees to terms with T. Brown
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:12:54 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports sources said the New England Patriots have agreed to terms with one of their own free agents, WR Troy Brown (Patriots), on an undisclosed contract.
More on Brown: Patriots start homing in
Team sources said Patriots owner Robert Kraft, after the departures of Willie McGinest and Adam Vinatieri, stepped into the negotiations to help retain the 34-year-old Brown. Kraft has allowed Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli to run the business side of football, but with the losses of two of his favorites, Kraft wanted Brown to know the Patriots cared about keeping him.
With the Jets tugging at Brown, perhaps to assume the vacated role of retired Wayne Chrebet, the allure was tempting not only because of Mangini but because of old friend Curtis Martin. But Brown had promised his family he'd stay with the Patriots or retire.
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nerangers
Footballguy
* Defensive back Chad Scott’s contract with the Patriots is a two-year, $1.66 million deal that included a $200,000 signing bonus. Scott’s base salary will be $710,000 in 2006 and $720,000 in 2007. He has workout bonuses in both seasons -- $16,160 in 2006 and $16,720 in 2007.
nerangers
Footballguy
Kicker question still unanswered
Kicker Market News:
At this point, the most attractive kicker on the market is Seattle's Josh Brown. The Packers have had conversations regarding Brown but so far no visit has been scheduled.
As a restricted free agent, the 26-year-old Brown would have to stay in Seattle if the Seahawks matched a potential offer sheet. Dallas considered preparing an offer for Brown but thought better of it and signed Vanderjagt.
"The Packers are in trouble," a special teams coach for another team said. "It's not a good year at all in the draft. I think Mike will have to go out and work out a bunch of kickers."
Ohio State's Josh Huston and Memphis' Stephen Gostkowski appear to be the top kickers in the draft. At best, they're regarded as fifth- to seventh-round selections.
The next-best unrestricted veteran would be Paul Edinger, who made 75% for Chicago and Minnesota over the last six seasons. The Packers have had conversations with his agent but don't appear gung-ho about signing him. New England, the other team in need of a kicker, had Edinger in for a visit Tuesday.
Atlanta's Todd Peterson, 36, is coming off a solid season but has a weak leg and can't kick off, either.
Another possibility could be Steve Christie. He's 38 and hasn't kicked since making 17 of his last 18 attempts in 2004 for the New York Giants. But Christie has stayed in shape, and one source said the Colts were considering signing him if they hadn't landed Vinatieri.
If the Cowboys elect not to keep two kickers, they probably will release Shaun Suisham. He made three of four kicks late in the season.
Kicker Market News:
At this point, the most attractive kicker on the market is Seattle's Josh Brown. The Packers have had conversations regarding Brown but so far no visit has been scheduled.
As a restricted free agent, the 26-year-old Brown would have to stay in Seattle if the Seahawks matched a potential offer sheet. Dallas considered preparing an offer for Brown but thought better of it and signed Vanderjagt.
"The Packers are in trouble," a special teams coach for another team said. "It's not a good year at all in the draft. I think Mike will have to go out and work out a bunch of kickers."
Ohio State's Josh Huston and Memphis' Stephen Gostkowski appear to be the top kickers in the draft. At best, they're regarded as fifth- to seventh-round selections.
The next-best unrestricted veteran would be Paul Edinger, who made 75% for Chicago and Minnesota over the last six seasons. The Packers have had conversations with his agent but don't appear gung-ho about signing him. New England, the other team in need of a kicker, had Edinger in for a visit Tuesday.
Atlanta's Todd Peterson, 36, is coming off a solid season but has a weak leg and can't kick off, either.
Another possibility could be Steve Christie. He's 38 and hasn't kicked since making 17 of his last 18 attempts in 2004 for the New York Giants. But Christie has stayed in shape, and one source said the Colts were considering signing him if they hadn't landed Vinatieri.
If the Cowboys elect not to keep two kickers, they probably will release Shaun Suisham. He made three of four kicks late in the season.
Workhorse
Footballguy
More good news. According to Miguel, the cap specialist over at Patsfans.com, Dillon restructured his deal to free up a few million in cap space for 2006. That would put the Patriots available cap money at well over $20 million.
Something big is brewing. Either extensions for Branch and Seymour or some pretty interesting FA names or possibly both.
Something big is brewing. Either extensions for Branch and Seymour or some pretty interesting FA names or possibly both.
code
Footballguy
Callahan and Dickerson on WEEI this morning, talking about player's "off the record" perception of the personnel management in Foxboro...discussing the sense that the team is "cheap"...acknowledged they always spend the cap, acknowledged they won't overpay at the top but "they pay their mid-level guys very well"...
ChromeWeasel
Footballguy
What a lousy attitude. Adam is getting paid. Good for him after all the success he's brought us in New England. Why so much resentment when someone makes a good deal for himself? He got overpaid by the Colts. You can't fault the guy for taking the money when its 50% than any other kicker is going to make. Hard to fault the Pats for not overpaying him either.
nerangers
Footballguy
Agreed. Adam when to a team that almost always makes the playoffs, that plays inside a dome, and that was villing to give him a long term contract to finish off his career. I don't think this was only about money. I think that was one reason he did not go to GB. Playing indoors has an appeal to him. I don't think the Pats handled the situation well. They tend to forget the Golden Rule about treating others as you wish to be treated. If you are not in discussions with a player, you can't blame them for going somewhere else when an opportunity arises. Adam already has three rings...there is no guarantee that the Pats will go back to a SB. Probably figures he has a better chance with the Colts.If he does make the HOF, will it be as a Pat or as a Colt?
nerangers
Footballguy
Belichick knows this routine
''This is all part of the process," Belichick said yesterday. ''You do everything you can to improve the team when you can do it. That's the process. And it doesn't stop, really, until you get to the regular season. We have a long way to go."
As far as losing players to other teams, Belichick points to the long list of players who have departed in recent years, rattling off the names of Ty Law, Joe Andruzzi, and Ted Washington to illustrate there are changes each offseason.
''Every team has to go through it," Belichick said.
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Vinatieri, who signed with the Colts Tuesday, says fans shouldn't be worried about the Patriots. ''They still have a tremendous team, lots of good players, and they still have Coach Belichick and his coaching staff," he said. ''They will continue to be successful. It's a transition time, and I think that's part of the NFL in this day and age. To be able to remain successful like they have, and like the Indianapolis Colts have, definitely has something to do with coaching and management, [and their ability] to maintain continuity and stay on the top level."
''This is all part of the process," Belichick said yesterday. ''You do everything you can to improve the team when you can do it. That's the process. And it doesn't stop, really, until you get to the regular season. We have a long way to go."
As far as losing players to other teams, Belichick points to the long list of players who have departed in recent years, rattling off the names of Ty Law, Joe Andruzzi, and Ted Washington to illustrate there are changes each offseason.
''Every team has to go through it," Belichick said.
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Vinatieri, who signed with the Colts Tuesday, says fans shouldn't be worried about the Patriots. ''They still have a tremendous team, lots of good players, and they still have Coach Belichick and his coaching staff," he said. ''They will continue to be successful. It's a transition time, and I think that's part of the NFL in this day and age. To be able to remain successful like they have, and like the Indianapolis Colts have, definitely has something to do with coaching and management, [and their ability] to maintain continuity and stay on the top level."
Urine_Idiot
Footballguy
Adam should be in the HOF so long as he continues at his pace, regardless of SB wins. Why? He's made just about 3 or 4 of the biggest kicks of NFL history: #1 The Snow Bowl kick, #2 The kick to win SB versus the Rams, #3 The 45 yarder versus the Titans in the freaking coldest game of my viewing career, and #4 the Kick to win SB versus the Panthers. But the requirements for getting into the HOF for a kicker are just as vague as those of quantifying the price of a clutch kicker, so maybe he won't make it. However, if I had a vote, I'd vote yes. About the patriots offseason forwards, although it hurts to see vets go from a fan point of view, it is necessary from the business end. The two moves I see hurting the Pats right now are that of givens and Ashworth (depth).
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
I love this one...Since when have the Colts been successful? Oh, you mean regular-season games that mean nothing other than to set you up for home playoff games in which you choke?
You can't consider the Colts "successful" until they win something meaningful. And no, a division championship ain't meaningful. They don't hand out Lombardi's to the team with the best record.
jgb95
Footballguy
Adam should be in the HOF so long as he continues at his pace, regardless of SB wins. Why? He's made just about 3 or 4 of the biggest kicks of NFL history: #1 The Snow Bowl kick, #2 The kick to win SB versus the Rams, #3 The 45 yarder versus the Titans in the freaking coldest game of my viewing career, and #4 the Kick to win SB versus the Panthers. But the requirements for getting into the HOF for a kicker are just as vague as those of quantifying the price of a clutch kicker, so maybe he won't make it. However, if I had a vote, I'd vote yes.
About the patriots offseason forwards, although it hurts to see vets go from a fan point of view, it is necessary from the business end. The two moves I see hurting the Pats right now are that of givens and Ashworth (depth).
I understand and I was at all those game as well, just have a hunch when it comes down to it I don't think he makes it for the fact that he left the team he did all these things for.
I could be dead wrong it's just a feeling I have. I've had the pleasure of watching every kick he's made in Foxboro and I'd love for him to get in the HOF. Not many kickers get in!
About the patriots offseason forwards, although it hurts to see vets go from a fan point of view, it is necessary from the business end. The two moves I see hurting the Pats right now are that of givens and Ashworth (depth).
I understand and I was at all those game as well, just have a hunch when it comes down to it I don't think he makes it for the fact that he left the team he did all these things for.
I could be dead wrong it's just a feeling I have. I've had the pleasure of watching every kick he's made in Foxboro and I'd love for him to get in the HOF. Not many kickers get in!
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Only one full time kicker has gotten in so far.
jgb95
Footballguy
Hey can't someone have an opinion here?
I said it twice. It's just my opinion.
As the last year showed and the year he had his back problems he's not the picture of great health. If he continues on this slope and doesn't kick for 90%+ on FG's he might not be a lock for the hall.
I think he wanted out for this exact reason. He's been kickin at an AVG rate not deserving of the distiction of highest paid kicker ever. I think i read here that he was the 17th most accurate kicker last year.
I'm not trying to bad mouth AV I just don't think he worthy of the contract. Maybe he turns things around in the dome we shall see.
just my 2 cents.......
I said it twice. It's just my opinion.
As the last year showed and the year he had his back problems he's not the picture of great health. If he continues on this slope and doesn't kick for 90%+ on FG's he might not be a lock for the hall.
I think he wanted out for this exact reason. He's been kickin at an AVG rate not deserving of the distiction of highest paid kicker ever. I think i read here that he was the 17th most accurate kicker last year.
I'm not trying to bad mouth AV I just don't think he worthy of the contract. Maybe he turns things around in the dome we shall see.
just my 2 cents.......
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Hey, if you want to let Vinatieri piss in your ear and tell you it is raining, have at it."Adam wanted to remain a Patriot in the worst way." What a load of crap.
The Patriots disrespected Vinatieri by paying him as the highest paid kicker in football the last 4 years?
From what I have read, the Patriots made him a good offer. He decided to RUN for the money. Its not about the way the Colts TREATED him. Thats ridiculous.
To think that this doesnt tarnish his legacy with the Patriots is naive.
Givens and McGinest were different situations. Givens had not received a big payday yet. It did not make sense to pay him like a #1. The Patriots were evidently not willing to make McGinest an offer. That is the one that upsets me with the Pats.
Vinatieri has already received many a payday from the Patriots and their offer was not "low ball".
He took the money and ran. Good for him. I for one hope it does cost him some Hall of Fame votes.
nerangers
Footballguy
Everyone has an opinion here....I don't think anyone is finding fault. My view is if any kicker is going to get in, it will be Adam V based on what he currently did. If you replaced Adam V with Mike V over the past five years, I am doubtful the Pats would have three SBs under their belts. Playing in a dome will probably help extend Adam's career a few more years if his back is bothering him. I know weather wrecks havoc with mine when the temp drops. I was also just pointing out that changing teams has never seemed to be a deterent from getting into the HOF.Wouldn't life be boring if everyone just agreed with one another.
Now from a Fantasy Standpoint, should Adam be dropped since he probably will be kicking less field goals? Should Mike V be moved up since there is a good chance he will be kicking a lot of FGs?
nerangers
Footballguy
NEAL AND BROWN IN FOLD... (from boston.com)
Brown returns for his 14th season in 2006, giving him a chance to play his entire career with one team. The 34-year-old, one of the team’s most popular players, is coming off a 39-catch season in which he was one of the Patriots’ offensive captains. He was an eighth-round draft choice of the Patriots in 1993 and has appeared in 175 career games. He currently ranks second on the team’s all-time receptions list, with 514, and is in striking distance of Stanley Morgan’s franchise record (534).
Brown adds depth to a receiving corps that has been thinned by the free-agent departures of David Givens (Titans), Andre’ Davis (Bills) and Tim Dwight (Jets). He had generated interest from the New York Jets.
Meanwhile, Neal (6-4, 305) returns to New England after visiting with the Vikings, Bills, Dolphins and Texans. The 29-year-old developed from a practice squad player to starter since joining the Patriots in 2001. He's been the team's primary starter at right guard the last two seasons.
I hope Troy gets the 30+ Receptions to break the Pats receiving record!
Brown returns for his 14th season in 2006, giving him a chance to play his entire career with one team. The 34-year-old, one of the team’s most popular players, is coming off a 39-catch season in which he was one of the Patriots’ offensive captains. He was an eighth-round draft choice of the Patriots in 1993 and has appeared in 175 career games. He currently ranks second on the team’s all-time receptions list, with 514, and is in striking distance of Stanley Morgan’s franchise record (534).
Brown adds depth to a receiving corps that has been thinned by the free-agent departures of David Givens (Titans), Andre’ Davis (Bills) and Tim Dwight (Jets). He had generated interest from the New York Jets.
Meanwhile, Neal (6-4, 305) returns to New England after visiting with the Vikings, Bills, Dolphins and Texans. The 29-year-old developed from a practice squad player to starter since joining the Patriots in 2001. He's been the team's primary starter at right guard the last two seasons.
I hope Troy gets the 30+ Receptions to break the Pats receiving record!
Boston
Footballguy
On the surface this really seems like a move that could be leading to other moves. Restructuring Dillon while they are already way under the cap seems a little fishy. One thing about the Pats and the offseason...you just never know what they're going to do. No matter how closely you follow them they still find ways to surprise you.
nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots | Team restructures Dillon's contractFri, 24 Mar 2006 15:44:13 -0800
John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports the New England Patriots have restructured the contract of RB Corey Dillon, dropping his 2006 salary from $3 million to $710,000. According to agent Steve Feldman, the team recently picked up a $3 million option bonus, guaranteeing that Dillon makes $6 million this year. The Patriots likely transformed Dillon's $3 million salary into a signing bonus and spread the cap hit over the final three years of his deal, saving $1.7 million off this year's cap.
nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots | Team officially re-signs T. BrownFri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:58 -0800NEAL AND BROWN IN FOLD... (from boston.com)
Brown returns for his 14th season in 2006, giving him a chance to play his entire career with one team. The 34-year-old, one of the team’s most popular players, is coming off a 39-catch season in which he was one of the Patriots’ offensive captains. He was an eighth-round draft choice of the Patriots in 1993 and has appeared in 175 career games. He currently ranks second on the team’s all-time receptions list, with 514, and is in striking distance of Stanley Morgan’s franchise record (534).
Brown adds depth to a receiving corps that has been thinned by the free-agent departures of David Givens (Titans), Andre’ Davis (Bills) and Tim Dwight (Jets). He had generated interest from the New York Jets.
Meanwhile, Neal (6-4, 305) returns to New England after visiting with the Vikings, Bills, Dolphins and Texans. The 29-year-old developed from a practice squad player to starter since joining the Patriots in 2001. He's been the team's primary starter at right guard the last two seasons.
I hope Troy gets the 30+ Receptions to break the Pats receiving record!
Patriots.com reports the New England Patriots have officially re-signed WR Troy Brown to an undisclosed contract.
Patriots | Team officially re-signs S. Neal
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:01:27 -0800
Patriots.com reports the New England Patriots have officially re-signed OL Stephen Neal to an undisclosed contract.
SoloMatisse
Footballguy
Need to clear a little more cap space for Eric Moulds...
nerangers
Footballguy
He hopes to get a foot in the door
Could he be the next Vinatieri?
''I would never want to compare myself to Adam or anyone else," said Kimball yesterday from Frankfurt, where he was 2 for 3 on field goals, including a 49-yarder, in his first game for the Galaxy last week. ''I know Adam and [Philadelphia's] David Akers both came from this league. If it gives me that type of exposure, that would be great. That's what I'm here for -- to improve and show what I'm capable of doing."
Could he be the next Vinatieri?
''I would never want to compare myself to Adam or anyone else," said Kimball yesterday from Frankfurt, where he was 2 for 3 on field goals, including a 49-yarder, in his first game for the Galaxy last week. ''I know Adam and [Philadelphia's] David Akers both came from this league. If it gives me that type of exposure, that would be great. That's what I'm here for -- to improve and show what I'm capable of doing."
brownsman92
Footballguy
they will get no one and go 0-16 'cause mcginest is with the brownies. yeah horse ### lovers
nerangers
Footballguy
Kaczur, Hobbs and Samuel
Offensive tackle Nick Kaczur and cornerbacks Ellis Hobbs and Asante Samuel are the Patriots' greatest beneficiaries of the NFL's 2005 performance-based pay program.
Kaczur earned an additional $168,654, the highest figure of any Patriots player. Hobbs was next at $159,713, followed by Samuel at $129,932.
They were the only three Patriots who earned more than $100,000 as part of the NFL program which is designed to reward players whose performance is deemed to exceed their compensation.
Kaczur, a rookie third-round choice (100th overall) out of Toledo, signed a five-year contract with a $660,000 signing bonus. His base salary in 2005 was $230,000. Add in his performance-based pay and Kaczur totaled a first-year payout of $1.05 million.
It was a deserving reward for a player who appeared in 14 games, with 11 starts. Kaczur filled in at left tackle when starter Matt Light was lost for the season in Week 3 due to a broken leg.
Hobbs also signed a five-year deal, with a signing bonus of $825,000 and a 2005 base salary of $230,000. Factoring in his performance-based pay and Hobbs had a first-year payout of $1.21 million.
Like Kaczur, the extra cash was well deserved for Hobbs, who appeared in all 16 regular-season games, starting the last eight while helping solidify the cornerback spot.
Samuel's base salary in 2005 was $380,000. The third-year cornerback started 15 of the team's 16 regular-season games (sitting out the finale as a precaution).
Offensive tackle Nick Kaczur and cornerbacks Ellis Hobbs and Asante Samuel are the Patriots' greatest beneficiaries of the NFL's 2005 performance-based pay program.
Kaczur earned an additional $168,654, the highest figure of any Patriots player. Hobbs was next at $159,713, followed by Samuel at $129,932.
They were the only three Patriots who earned more than $100,000 as part of the NFL program which is designed to reward players whose performance is deemed to exceed their compensation.
Kaczur, a rookie third-round choice (100th overall) out of Toledo, signed a five-year contract with a $660,000 signing bonus. His base salary in 2005 was $230,000. Add in his performance-based pay and Kaczur totaled a first-year payout of $1.05 million.
It was a deserving reward for a player who appeared in 14 games, with 11 starts. Kaczur filled in at left tackle when starter Matt Light was lost for the season in Week 3 due to a broken leg.
Hobbs also signed a five-year deal, with a signing bonus of $825,000 and a 2005 base salary of $230,000. Factoring in his performance-based pay and Hobbs had a first-year payout of $1.21 million.
Like Kaczur, the extra cash was well deserved for Hobbs, who appeared in all 16 regular-season games, starting the last eight while helping solidify the cornerback spot.
Samuel's base salary in 2005 was $380,000. The third-year cornerback started 15 of the team's 16 regular-season games (sitting out the finale as a precaution).
Boston
Footballguy
The Pats had a sneaky good draft last year. No big names but it looks like it will have netted three quality starters. Mankins, Kaczur and Hobbs all look like "fixture" type of players. Not only are they quality players but the price is very right for all three. As for the other rookies I wasn't impressed at all with Sanders. He seemed to play "small" last year. Hopefully he shows more this year as he has a great opportunity at safety. Cassell looks to be the backup of the future. It's pretty apparent that what the Pats saw has great potential to translate on the field. The guy I'm looking forward to seeing is Claridge. Due to the injury he was a non-factor in 05. Yet, I've heard that they like him and are hopeful he'll show something in camp. If he does it would be a huge plus as the Pats are thin as can be at LB.
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nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots | Koppen expected to fully recover from last season's injury – if all goes to plan
Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:51:43 -0800
Michael Felger, of the Boston Herald, reports it was learned last week that New England Patriots OC Dan Koppen (shoulder) suffered a badly torn rotator cuff (in addition to a dislocated shoulder) in the Patriots' Nov. 13 win at Miami last season. The injury knocked Koppen out the remainder of the year and set him on a rehab program that has only recently seen him turn the corner. A source close to Koppen said last week that a full recovery is expected and that if everything goes according to plan. "My only expectation is that I will be 100 percent at some point," Koppen said. The rotator cuff injury is particularly concerning because Koppen's calling card is his upper-body strength.
Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:51:43 -0800
Michael Felger, of the Boston Herald, reports it was learned last week that New England Patriots OC Dan Koppen (shoulder) suffered a badly torn rotator cuff (in addition to a dislocated shoulder) in the Patriots' Nov. 13 win at Miami last season. The injury knocked Koppen out the remainder of the year and set him on a rehab program that has only recently seen him turn the corner. A source close to Koppen said last week that a full recovery is expected and that if everything goes according to plan. "My only expectation is that I will be 100 percent at some point," Koppen said. The rotator cuff injury is particularly concerning because Koppen's calling card is his upper-body strength.
Boston
Footballguy
The question here is does this factor into resigning him? Do the Pats want to hold off until they see if he's ok or are they confident he'll be back to normal. The issue is as each day goes by and he gets closer to free agency his price will only go up. Koppen is a guy who would do very well in free agency. He's a young, high quality center who's very well liked by his teammates and would be in great demand. Assuming the injury is healing correctly I'd like to see him reupped ASAP. If that happens the Pats would be in a situation where Light-Mankins-Koppen-Neal-Kazcur would all be under contract for awhile and this could develop into one of the better units in the league. In the short term if Koppen's not ready than Hochstein can definetly get the job done.
nerangers
Footballguy
An interesting read:
Planning goes only so far
Bill Belichick has a plan. Of this we are sure. The problem, thus far, is that other people have plans, too.
He planned to sign wide receiver Joe Jurevicius to replace David Givens for a price he knew was right. Jurevicius had other plans.
He planned to sign cornerback DeShea Townsend for a price he knew was right. The Pittsburgh Steelers had other plans.
He planned to re-sign Adam Vinatieri for a price he knew would be right after the market for kickers dried up with the help -- wittingly or unwittingly, depending on whom you believe -- of Vinatieri's agent, who just happens to work for Belichick's lawyer back in Cleveland. Vinatieri had other plans and pretty soon another agent.
None of this means Belichick's plan, with some adjustments, won't in the end net him a roster that will keep the Patriots competitive in the AFC. It means only that other people have plans, too, and you can't control them, which can lead to unexpected difficulties and the need for adjustments. And so he adjusts
Planning goes only so far
Bill Belichick has a plan. Of this we are sure. The problem, thus far, is that other people have plans, too.
He planned to sign wide receiver Joe Jurevicius to replace David Givens for a price he knew was right. Jurevicius had other plans.
He planned to sign cornerback DeShea Townsend for a price he knew was right. The Pittsburgh Steelers had other plans.
He planned to re-sign Adam Vinatieri for a price he knew would be right after the market for kickers dried up with the help -- wittingly or unwittingly, depending on whom you believe -- of Vinatieri's agent, who just happens to work for Belichick's lawyer back in Cleveland. Vinatieri had other plans and pretty soon another agent.
None of this means Belichick's plan, with some adjustments, won't in the end net him a roster that will keep the Patriots competitive in the AFC. It means only that other people have plans, too, and you can't control them, which can lead to unexpected difficulties and the need for adjustments. And so he adjusts
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That would be tough. How does the inury factor in moneywise? If the Pats are nervous about the injury than they may not want to resign him or would lowball him. If you're Koppen why sign a deal when you have no hand. You'd be much better off getting back to normal and showing you're ok. Since he's a free agent next year if he gets back to normal that would mean the Pats would have to up the offer or he'd hit the open market. Looking at the money being thrown around this offseason that's not a bad thing for Koppen. Also, if you bust his nads and lowball him you may alienate him to the point he doesn't want to resign. Both sides have to be careful here.My guess is if the Pats are concerned than they'll wait until the summer and see how he's doing. If they are comfortable than they probaby try to get it done. As for Koppen he simply needs to prove he's healthy and can perform at his pre-injury level. Do that and a good-sized contract will be right on the horizon whether it's with the Pats or another club. Hopefully it's with the Pats because they have a chance to have a Light-Mankins-Koppen-Neal-Kazcur unit play together for quite sometime and that's a great foundation.
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Footballguy
* Count the Houston Texans among the teams interested in trading for Buffalo receiver Eric Moulds, according to the Houston Chronicle. The Patriots are also interested and the Chronicle reports the Bills are asking for a fourth-round draft choice.
*Free-agent receiver Marc Boerigter, in whom the Patriots reportedly had expressed interest, will sign with the Green Bay Packers according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
*Compensatory picks will be awarded to teams at the NFL owners meetings. The picks are based on a formula that balances free agents lost prior to the 2005 season against free agents signed prior to the 2005 season. The picks can be valuable, as evidenced by the Patriots turning a third-round compensatory pick into offensive tackle Nick Kaczur (100th overall) last year.
*Free-agent receiver Marc Boerigter, in whom the Patriots reportedly had expressed interest, will sign with the Green Bay Packers according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
*Compensatory picks will be awarded to teams at the NFL owners meetings. The picks are based on a formula that balances free agents lost prior to the 2005 season against free agents signed prior to the 2005 season. The picks can be valuable, as evidenced by the Patriots turning a third-round compensatory pick into offensive tackle Nick Kaczur (100th overall) last year.
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Sorry guys...went back to work today after 10 days off! LOL
Saw that the Pats got some more sixth round draft picks...and a nice breakdown of our current draft picks.
Extra Pats picks
The NFL handed out compensatory draft choices on Monday and the Patriots received two sixth-rounders.
That gives the team a total of 11 selections in the 2006 draft. The Patriots should receive higher compensatory picks in 2007, when the league factors in the losses of free agents Willie McGinest, David Givens and Adav Vinatieri, among others.
A look at the team's 2006 draft picks:
Round 1 -- 21st, assigned selection
Round 2 -- 20th, assigned selection
Round 3 -- 11th, from Baltimore*
Round 3 -- 22nd, assigned selection
Round 4 -- 9th, from Detroit**
Round 4 -- 21st, assigned selection
Round 5 -- 3rd, from Oakland***
Round 5 -- 20th, traded to Browns for WR Andre' Davis
Round 6 -- 22nd, assigned selection
Round 6 -- 36th, compensatory selection (can't be traded)
Round 6 -- 37th, compensatory selection (can't be traded)
Round 7 -- 21st, assigned selection
* The Patriots' first 2006 third-round pick (the 11th selection of the round) was acquired from the Baltimore Ravens on April 23, 2005 along with a 2005 third-round pick (84 overall -- CB Ellis Hobbs) and a 2005 sixth-round pick (195 overall -- Traded to Green Bay) in exchange for a 2005 second-round pick (64 overall -- T Adam Terry).
** The Patriots' first 2006 fourth-round pick (the ninth selection of the round) was acquired from the Detroit Lions on April 24, 2005 in exchange for a 2005 fifth-round pick (145 overall -- QB Dan Orlovsky) and a 2005 sixth-round pick (206 overall -- DE Jonathan Goddard).
*** The Patriots' first 2006 fifth-round pick (3rd in the round) was acquired from the Oakland Raiders on April 24, 2005 along with a 2005 seventh-round pick (230 overall -- QB Matt Cassel) in exchange for a 2005 sixth-round pick (175 overall -- DT Anttaj Hawthorne).
Patriots | Team receives two comp picks
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:33:02 -0800
The New England Patriots received two compensatory pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. The picks are No. 36 in the sixth round or No. 205 overall and No. 37 in the seventh round or No. 206 overall.
Saw that the Pats got some more sixth round draft picks...and a nice breakdown of our current draft picks.
Extra Pats picks
The NFL handed out compensatory draft choices on Monday and the Patriots received two sixth-rounders.
That gives the team a total of 11 selections in the 2006 draft. The Patriots should receive higher compensatory picks in 2007, when the league factors in the losses of free agents Willie McGinest, David Givens and Adav Vinatieri, among others.
A look at the team's 2006 draft picks:
Round 1 -- 21st, assigned selection
Round 2 -- 20th, assigned selection
Round 3 -- 11th, from Baltimore*
Round 3 -- 22nd, assigned selection
Round 4 -- 9th, from Detroit**
Round 4 -- 21st, assigned selection
Round 5 -- 3rd, from Oakland***
Round 5 -- 20th, traded to Browns for WR Andre' Davis
Round 6 -- 22nd, assigned selection
Round 6 -- 36th, compensatory selection (can't be traded)
Round 6 -- 37th, compensatory selection (can't be traded)
Round 7 -- 21st, assigned selection
* The Patriots' first 2006 third-round pick (the 11th selection of the round) was acquired from the Baltimore Ravens on April 23, 2005 along with a 2005 third-round pick (84 overall -- CB Ellis Hobbs) and a 2005 sixth-round pick (195 overall -- Traded to Green Bay) in exchange for a 2005 second-round pick (64 overall -- T Adam Terry).
** The Patriots' first 2006 fourth-round pick (the ninth selection of the round) was acquired from the Detroit Lions on April 24, 2005 in exchange for a 2005 fifth-round pick (145 overall -- QB Dan Orlovsky) and a 2005 sixth-round pick (206 overall -- DE Jonathan Goddard).
*** The Patriots' first 2006 fifth-round pick (3rd in the round) was acquired from the Oakland Raiders on April 24, 2005 along with a 2005 seventh-round pick (230 overall -- QB Matt Cassel) in exchange for a 2005 sixth-round pick (175 overall -- DT Anttaj Hawthorne).
Patriots | Team receives two comp picks
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:33:02 -0800
The New England Patriots received two compensatory pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. The picks are No. 36 in the sixth round or No. 205 overall and No. 37 in the seventh round or No. 206 overall.
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nerangers
Footballguy
from Boston.com
Neal -- 4 years
Offensive guard Stephen Neal's contract with the Patriots extends for four years, meaning the Patriots have most of their linemen locked up for multiple seasons.
Neal's four-year deal has a total value of slightly more than $10 million. The contract includes a $3.2 million signing bonus and base salaries of $600,000 in 2006; $1.7 million in 2007; $2.1 million in 2008; and $2.5 million in 2009.
But perhaps more important than the total value of the contract is the fact the Patriots have several key linemen signed to long-term deals.
A snapshot look at the contract length of the top 7 linemen:
Left tackle Matt Light -- 2010
Left guard Logan Mankins -- 2009
Center Dan Koppen -- 2006
Right guard Stephen Neal -- 2009
Right tackle Nick Kaczur -- 2009
Right tackle Brandon Gorin -- 2007
Center/guard Russ Hochstein -- 2006
Neal -- 4 years
Offensive guard Stephen Neal's contract with the Patriots extends for four years, meaning the Patriots have most of their linemen locked up for multiple seasons.
Neal's four-year deal has a total value of slightly more than $10 million. The contract includes a $3.2 million signing bonus and base salaries of $600,000 in 2006; $1.7 million in 2007; $2.1 million in 2008; and $2.5 million in 2009.
But perhaps more important than the total value of the contract is the fact the Patriots have several key linemen signed to long-term deals.
A snapshot look at the contract length of the top 7 linemen:
Left tackle Matt Light -- 2010
Left guard Logan Mankins -- 2009
Center Dan Koppen -- 2006
Right guard Stephen Neal -- 2009
Right tackle Nick Kaczur -- 2009
Right tackle Brandon Gorin -- 2007
Center/guard Russ Hochstein -- 2006
nerangers
Footballguy
The Patriots 2006 opponents are as follows:
AFC East games (6)
Bills (twice, home & away)
Dolphins (twice, home & away)
Jets (twice, home & away)
Other AFC games (6)
Broncos -- home
Colts –- home
Texans –- home
Jaguars –- away
Bengals -- away
Titans -- away
NFC games (4)
Bears –- home
Lions –- home
Packers –- away
Vikings -- away
With Thursday, Sunday and Monday night matchups already determined, that narrows the Patriots’ season-opening opponents to nine possibilities: Bills, Jets, Broncos, Texans, Bengals, Titans, Bears, Lions or Packers.
AFC East games (6)
Bills (twice, home & away)
Dolphins (twice, home & away)
Jets (twice, home & away)
Other AFC games (6)
Broncos -- home
Colts –- home
Texans –- home
Jaguars –- away
Bengals -- away
Titans -- away
NFC games (4)
Bears –- home
Lions –- home
Packers –- away
Vikings -- away
With Thursday, Sunday and Monday night matchups already determined, that narrows the Patriots’ season-opening opponents to nine possibilities: Bills, Jets, Broncos, Texans, Bengals, Titans, Bears, Lions or Packers.
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Footballguy
TROY BROWN’S DEAL: Receiver Troy Brown’s contract with the Patriots is a one-year package worth approximately $1.1 million. The contract includes a base salary of $810,000, with $300,000 of it guaranteed. The deal also includes a $265,000 signing bonus and a $30,000 workout bonus. This is an upgrade from Brown’s 2005 deal, which included a $35,000 signing bonus and a minimum base salary of $765,000.
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Footballguy
Kraft says NFL’s next leader can’t relax
“Don’t believe that. When you believe that is when you get in trouble,” Kraft said yesterday on the eve of the owners meetings. “When you’re not hungry running a business and looking over your shoulder and think you’ve got it all together, it’s just like a team. If you think your team has reached that position, you’re going to get knocked off fast. I believe that’s true of the NFL, too.”
“Don’t believe that. When you believe that is when you get in trouble,” Kraft said yesterday on the eve of the owners meetings. “When you’re not hungry running a business and looking over your shoulder and think you’ve got it all together, it’s just like a team. If you think your team has reached that position, you’re going to get knocked off fast. I believe that’s true of the NFL, too.”
nerangers
Footballguy
A bad tear for Koppen: Severe rotator cuff injury is part of Patriots center’s rehab battleIt’s a good thing Dan Koppen isn’t a major league pitcher. His career could well be over. But even as an offensive lineman, his future has taken on a measure of uncertainty.
“My only expectation is that I will be 100 percent at some point,” Koppen said.
The bigger question is how well Koppen will perform once he does come back. Over his first three years in the league, Koppen has proven to be one of the best young centers in the NFL. He has been a huge factor in giving Tom Brady a solid middle of the pocket while proving to be a mobile and effective run-blocker.
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