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Sullivan arrested

Recently acquired defensive lineman Johnathan Sullivan was arrested Sunday morning, according to a report in today's Times-Picuyane. The arrest occurred Sunday morning in Georgia. The report indicates Sullivan was charged with possession of marijuana, a seat belt violation, running two stop signs and playing loud music.

Sullivan was acquired from the New Orleans Saints in exchange for receiver Bethel Johnson on June 5.

Here is a bit more on the arrest of defensive lineman Johnathan Sullivan from the Boston Globe. Sullivan's agent, Len Rowe, says he will "rigorously defend Johnathan against these charges." A Patriots spokesman said the team is aware of the situation and will handle the matter internally.Patriots' Sullivan arrested (full article)

 

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Rookie lessons

Patriots draft picks returned from the NFL’s Rookie Symposium in San Diego late Wednesday night. The four-day program ended up being a review session for at least one draft choice.

“I felt like it was a beneficial event, but a lot of the things we went over had already been discussed with us,” said cornerback Willie Andrews, a seventh-round draft choice.

“Probably the biggest thing I took from it was that the Patriots must have a great program, because it was a lot of the same things the team discussed with us as part of their player program.”

Andrews said one focus at the mandatory NFL Symposium was the “mental aspect and business side of football.” He said players were instructed on 401K plans, life insurance, taxes and general money management principles.

One of his favorite speakers was former NFL receiver Cris Carter. Carter's message was about what defines success, and how players respond to challenges.

Shortly after arriving in New England in early May, Andrews said the last meeting of each day was focused on player programs, which included meetings with financial advisors, realtors and psychologists, among other specialists.

As for Andrews himself, he feels he’s adjusted to his new surroundings. At one point during one of the team's minicamps, coach Bill Belichick stopped a bag drill and instructed the team to watch the way Andrews moved his feet through it. That was one sign Andrews is on the right path football-wise.

“Everything is falling into place,” he said. “I’ve found being down in the Foxborough area has been calming.”

 

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July 05, 2006

Miller time

Former Patriots quarterback Jim Miller (2004) has been shining as a co-host on SIRIUS radio's NFL channel. He’s taken note of the public perception regarding the Patriots.

“I think people think their run is done,” Miller said in a telephone interview on Wednesday. “For whatever the reason, people don’t seem to give them the respect they deserve. I think [bill] Belichick likes it that way.

“What I’m hearing from callers is that they think the offseason losses of players like Willie McGinest, Adam Vinatieri and David Givens are too much to overcome. I beg to differ. No. 1, to me, is that they still have Tom Brady. And that’s a big thing to have.”

When Miller speaks of the Patriots, he often mentions the team’s coaching staff.

“I think Bill Belichick is one of the most adept situational coaches in the league. He knows situations and preaches them to his players, which makes for smart football. In my whole 12-year career, I never had a head coach in my offensive meetings every day, going over reads and coverages.”

Miller recalls one particular teaching point.

“One meeting, I’m in there with Tom [brady] and Rohan [Davey] and Bill starts talking about ‘Detroit personnel’ -- that’s two tight ends, two receivers (split end, flanker) and a one-back grouping. And he asks us if we know why it’s called ‘Detroit personnel.’ He said every team he’d ever been with called it that.

"It was from when the Detroit Lions played the Patriots [in the 1970s] and introduced that personnel grouping and demolished them. He said that was really how two tight ends came into the NFL. I’ve never forgotten 'Detroit personnel.'”

Miller said he likes the Patriots to win the AFC East this season. He also listed four of the team's most pressing questions, which we'll pass along on Thursday.

 

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When the Bears finalized a four-year deal for rookie linebacker Jamar Williams on Saturday, it highlighted the general salary figures for the Patriots’ upcoming negotiations with rookie kicker Stephen Gostkowski. According to this report in the Chicago Sun Times, Williams signed a four-year deal with a $415,000 signing bonus. Williams was selected 120th. Gostkowski was 118th, so his bonus should be slightly richer assuming he signs a four-year pact.

The Patriots are among a group of teams that have yet to sign any of their draft choices. The team has been assigned a rookie pool of $4.6 million to sign their newcomers. In past years, rookie negotiations have been handled by Chief Administrative Counsel Jack Mula. Vice President of Player Personnel Scott Pioli handles the rest of the team's contract negotiations, making him one of the few NFL personnel chiefs who is also primarily responsible for contracts.

 

[nerangers]

July 06, 2006

4 questions

Former Patriots quarterback Jim Miller (2004), who works as a co-host on SIRIUS radio's NFL channel, lists his four most pressing questions facing his old club:

1) Is Corey Dillon going to rebound from last year?

"He had a down year. Injuries played a part in that, as did some of the offensive line changes. I'm wondering if he comes back with a chip on his shoulder and how much Laurence Maroney pushes him."

2) Is Rodney Harrison able to come back?

"There was a big dropoff when he went down, and you saw what Bill Belichick did, using 3-4 strong safeties in a span of weeks -- 'give me the next guy, the next guy, the next guy.' As a former teammate, I hope Rodney comes back. He's a great teammate, a big part of the defense's success. I love his passion for the game."

3) Who wins the battle of the kickers?

"I don't think Bill Belichick will be hesitant to go with [rookie Steve] Gostkowski. With [Martin] Gramatica, the question is how will he kick in the cold? We all saw him struggle his last year or so in Tampa."

4) Is Rosevelt Colvin ready for a full-time, full-season role at outside linebacker?

"It was a telling statement to me when they let [Willie] McGinest go. That must mean they feel Rosey is completely healthy now [from his 2003 hip injury]."

 

[Bri]

stopped by for an update, thanks ne

 

[nerangers]

July 07, 2006

Deep sixed

Over two of the last three years, the Patriots and their first-round draft choices have negotiated six-year deals.

The six-year term was at the root of Benjamin Watson's holdout in 2004. His agent at the time, Tom Condon, didn't want to sign for that length.

But the six-year deal isn't an option for this year's first-round pick, Laurence Maroney (No. 21).

As part of the new collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and its players association, the maximum length of Maroney's rookie deal can be only five years.

The breakdown is as follows:

Picks 1-16: Six-year maximum

Picks 17-32: Five-year maximum

Second-round picks and lower: Four-year maximum

(note: no rookie deal can be renegotiated for two years)

The following is the Patriots' breakdown on contract length for drafted players (rounds 1-3) in the Bill Belichick/Scott Pioli Era:

2005

1. Logan Mankins (32nd overall) -- 5

3a. Ellis Hobbs -- 5

3b. Nick Kaczur -- 5

2004

1a. Vince Wilfork (21st overall) -- 6

1b. Benjamin Watson (32nd overall) -- 6

2. Marquise Hill -- 5

3. Guss Scott -- 1

2003

1. Ty Warren (13th overall) -- 6

2a. Eugene Wilson -- 5

2b. Bethel Johnson -- 5

2002

1. Daniel Graham (21st overall) -- 5

2. Deion Branch -- 5

2001

1. Richard Seymour (6th overall) -- 6

2. Matt Light -- 4

3. Brock Williams -- 4

2000

2. Adrian Klemm -- 5

3. J.R. Redmond -- 4

 

[nerangers]

Full Camp Schedule was released...

Full camp schedule

The Patriots released their full training camp schedule today. The camp starts July 28 and extends to August 17, with practices open to the public.

Friday, July 28

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Saturday, July 29

8:45 - 10:45 a.m.

5:30 - 7:30 p.m.

Sunday, July 30

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Monday, July 31

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Tuesday, August 1

8:45 - 10:45 a.m.

Wednesday, August 2

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Thursday, August 3

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Friday, August 4

8:45 - 10:45 a.m.

5:30 - 7:30 p.m.

Saturday, August 5

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

Monday, August 7

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Tuesday, August 8

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Wednesday, August 9

8:45 - 10:45 a.m.

5:30 - 7:30 p.m.

(preseason game Friday, August 11 at Atlanta)

Monday, August 14

8:45 - 10:45 a.m.

Tuesday, August 15

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Wednesday, August 16

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

2:30 - 4:30 p.m.

Thursday, August 17

8:45 - 10:45 a.m.

5:30 - 7:30 p.m.

All times are subject to change. Fans are encouraged to call the training camp hotline at 508-549-0001 for the latest information.

 

[nerangers]

Beisel's buddy

Earlier this offseason, linebacker Monty Beisel returned to his home to find a package waiting at his doorstep. The sender was his former coach with the Kansas City Chiefs, #### Vermeil.

“He sent me a little note, wishing me well,” Beisel said.

Along with that note was some wine from Napa Valley.

Beisel and Vermeil have remained in contact despite going their seperate ways in 2005 when Beisel signed a free-agent contract with the Patriots. After the 2005 season, Vermeil retired as coach of the Chiefs.

Now that Vermeil is out of coaching, he’s become a sounding board of sorts for Beisel. Both have ties to the L.A. area.

“When you get caught up in any business or line of work, if you can go to another source and talk to him, it makes things a lot easier," Beisel said. "To have a guy like that, who has been in the league and has gone through those situations, it’s definitely a calming feeling.”

 

[nerangers]

Post mini-camp position breakdown: Defensive Line (full article)

Overall – The Patriots defensive line will be well anchored by Seymour, and each of the other two starters looks fully capable of playing his role. The real danger comes if any of those three are injured, especially when the Patriots look to switch into a four-man front.

Of Wright, Smith, and Sullivan, any of them could be capable of stepping up to fill potential holes, but as of now, they all look like they’ll be battling for spots behind the starters.

After that, things kind of drop off, and depth could be a concern for the Patriots. The last four will all be fighting for roster spots, but training-camp is around the corner, and everyone will finally get a chance to prove himself on the field.

Mentioned in Article

Richard Seymour

Vince Wilfork

Ty Warren

Jarvis Green

Mike Wright

Le Kevin Smith

Johnathan Sullivan

Dan Klecko

Marquise Hill, Santonio Thomas, and Jeremy Mincey

 

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Elizabeth Merrill of the Kansas City Star interviews free agent cornerback Ty Law while he was down in St. Louis training. Law talks about potentially returning to New England. "It’s not out of the question that I can return back to New England because I didn’t leave on bad terms," said Ty Law. "It was business. Me and coach (Bill) Belichick, contrary to what everyone might believe, we’re fine."

 

[Bri]

hey ne, Boston,

thought you guys might be a little interested in this in a "heh" sorta way.

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Nathan Schiccatano, who played the past three years and graduated on time at Notre Dame, has decided to transfer to Temple for his final year of eligibility to get increased playing time. Schiccatano is expected to compete for the Owls' starting fullback position after playing fullback, linebacker and defensive end for the Irish. Schiccatano played in the annual U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio after his senior season in high school, but he could never find a full-time spot in the crowded backfield at Notre Dame. At 6-2 and 240 pounds and with a previous 40 time in the 4.6-second range, Schiccatano could develop into a pro prospect with a strong campaign. He selected Temple over Towson and William & Mary.

*****

see it looks like Weis loves versatility in his players too like BB in NE.

 

[nerangers]

hey ne, Boston,

thought you guys might be a little interested in this in a "heh" sorta way.

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Nathan Schiccatano, who played the past three years and graduated on time at Notre Dame, has decided to transfer to Temple for his final year of eligibility to get increased playing time. Schiccatano is expected to compete for the Owls' starting fullback position after playing fullback, linebacker and defensive end for the Irish. Schiccatano played in the annual U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio after his senior season in high school, but he could never find a full-time spot in the crowded backfield at Notre Dame. At 6-2 and 240 pounds and with a previous 40 time in the 4.6-second range, Schiccatano could develop into a pro prospect with a strong campaign. He selected Temple over Towson and William & Mary.

*****

see it looks like Weis loves versatility in his players too like BB in NE.

good catch Bri....

 

[nerangers]

Andrews in fold

The Patriots have begun the process of signing their draft choices to contracts, agreeing to terms on a four-year deal with seventh-round pick Willie Andrews.

The Patriots confirmed the signing late Tuesday.

A cornerback, Andrews (5-10, 193 pounds) was the 229th player selected in the 2006 NFL Draft. His immediate contributions could come on special teams, as he worked on both kickoff and punt returns at the Patriots' mandatory minicamp in June. He's the Baylor record holder in kickoff returns (67) and kickoff return yardage (1,647).

Andrews was the last of the Patriots' 10 draft choices.

 

[nerangers]

Wish the Ty situation would get finished....

Law & coaching staffs

* Free agent cornerback Ty Law speaks with the Kansas City Star during a break from his training in St. Louis. "It’s not out of the question that I can return back to New England because I didn’t leave on bad terms," Law says in the piece. "It was business. Me and coach (Bill) Belichick, contrary to what everyone might believe, we’re fine."

* The size of coaching staffs in the focus of this piece in the New York Times. The Patriots have the smallest staff in the NFL, with 12 coaches, and owner Robert Kraft is quoted in the piece: "“When you want to get a message through, you want accountability. It’s like middle management: if you have a lot, it’s hard to get through.”

MORE ON LAW IN K.C.: Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson tells the Kansas City Star that his team does have interest in cornerback Ty Law, but it will come down to economics.

 

[nerangers]

I know we are all interested if the Pats go after Brooks...

SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT NOTES: Browns general manager Phil Savage tells the Cleveland Plain Dealer that his team intends to pass on today’s supplemental draft. ... Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi, speaking to the New York Post, touches on his team’s potential interest in linebacker Ahmad Brooks. ... The risks of the supplemental draft are detailed in this espn.com piece. ... The last time the Patriots were involved in the supplemental draft was 1999, when the team selected Arizona State defensive back J’Juan Cherry. He never appeared in a game with the team.

Supplemental draft

The NFL’s supplemental draft is scheduled to be held on Thursday, July 13 and one Patriots fan wrote in asking how it works. So we’ve recruited Gil Brandt of NFL.com and Sirius radio to break it down.

Brandt, a longtime vice president of player personnel with the Cowboys, wrote about the supplemental draft a few days ago.

Brandt explained that the picking order is determined by a weighted lottery based on the 2005 won-loss record and playoff participation of teams. In many ways, it’s like the NBA lottery, but in the NFL every team has a chance to earn the top pick.

Once the draft order is determined by weighted lottery, Brandt said teams usually take one of three steps:

1) Teams will inform the NFL that they are electing to pass on the entire draft.

2) In advance, teams will inform the NFL what round they are willing to select an eligible player (and must surrender that corresponding pick in the 2007 entry draft).

3) Teams wait by the phone or email, and inform the NFL during the draft of their intentions.

The draft is held via telephone/email.

Brandt said the most notable player in this year’s supplemental draft is Virginia linebacker Ahmad Brooks. He’s a potential fit for the Patriots as he has the rare physical measurables to play inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. Brooks’ agent, Greg Williams, said earlier this week that the Patriots haven’t had any contact with Brooks throughout the pre-supplemental draft process. Williams noted that could mean the Patriots have interest and are disguising it, or simply aren't interested.

 

[nerangers]

Supplemental follow-Up:

The Patriots didn't make a selection in today's NFL supplemental draft. Only one player was chosen, as Virginia's Ahmad Brooks was selected by the Bengals in the third round.

 

[nerangers]

Stevenson signed

The Patriots signed offensive lineman Dan Stevenson, a sixth round pick out of Notre Dame, to a contract today.

The team agreed to financial terms earlier in the week and was in the process of hammering out the final language on a four-year deal.

Stevenson is the second of 10 Patriots draft picks to sign a contract, following seventh rounder Willie Andrews. Former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis, now the head coach at Notre Dame, previously compared Stevenson to former Patriot Joe Andruzzi.

Stevenson (6-5, 300) worked primarily at guard in minicamps, and could potentially add depth at center.

 

[Exile]

Supplemental follow-Up:

The Patriots didn't make a selection in today's NFL supplemental draft. Only one player was chosen, as Virginia's Ahmad Brooks was selected by the Bengals in the third round.

Yeah, they didn't make a pick...but I wonder if they even made a bid on Brooks.

 

[nerangers]

Stevenson signed

The Patriots signed offensive lineman Dan Stevenson, a sixth round pick out of Notre Dame, to a contract today.

The team agreed to financial terms earlier in the week and was in the process of hammering out the final language on a four-year deal.

Stevenson is the second of 10 Patriots draft picks to sign a contract, following seventh rounder Willie Andrews. Former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis, now the head coach at Notre Dame, previously compared Stevenson to former Patriot Joe Andruzzi.

Stevenson (6-5, 300) worked primarily at guard in minicamps, and could potentially add depth at center.

Stevenson's termsRookie Dan Stevenson's contract with the Patriots is for four years and includes a $72,000 signing bonus. Much like the contract for seventh round pick Willie Andrews, Stevenson can earn incentives that would increase the value of the deal in its final year.

The current total value of the contract is $1.672 million.

As an example of how rookie contracts are slotted, the player drafted before Stevenson -- LaJuan Ramsey of the Philadelphia Eagles -- signed a four-year deal with a current value of $1.673 million.

 

[nerangers]

Good News for Patriot fans...

EXTRA POINTS: According to reports, the Bengals will lose starting linebacker Odell Thurman to a four-game suspension. That means Thurman won't be available when the Patriots visit the Bengals in the fourth week of the season (Oct. 1).

The Boston Herald reports that New England Patriots football hero Tedy Bruschi was named the Best Comeback player and his former teammate Doug Flutie copped the GMC Professional Grade Play Award for his successful drop-kick stunt at the annual ESPY Awards out in La-La the other night.

 

[nerangers]

Core adjustment

This article from NFL.com (Special teams is one-third of the game ) provides an interesting snapshot of how clubs approach special teams while filling out their rosters. It's relevant to the Patriots because the team is adding at least two new players to its special teams "core" in 2006.

The piece notes that linebacker Don Davis logged the most special teams plays for the Patriots in 2005, with 381. Davis (team-high 25 tackles) and fellow linebacker Larry Izzo (18 tackles, 2nd on team) are the Patriots' top two core special teamers, and they return in 2006.

Meanwhile, linebacker Matt Chatham (now with the Jets) and safety Michael Stone (Texans) -- both of whom tied for third on the team with 17 special teams tackles apiece -- were other core players in 2005. They must be replaced.

Free agent safety Mel Mitchell projects to take Stone's place as part of the core group. Second-year safety James Sanders should also see extensive time on special teams, although his potential emergence in the regular defense could alter his role.

As for who replaces Chatham, second-year linebacker Eric Alexander is one player to watch. He's apparently had an excellent offseason in the weight room and was a prominent member of coverage teams in the Patriots' June minicamp. Veteran Barry Gardner projects as competition for that role as well.

 

[nerangers]

some info on Garrett Mills....

Former TU standout training hard to make NFL roster

Garrett Mills has gone from college superstar to unproven rookie in a short time.

The former University of Tulsa football player is now a member of the New England Patriots, where his All-American statistics don't carry over to the professional game.

"I felt like a freshman coming into college again," said Mills, describing his first days in Foxboro, Mass. "But once we got on the field, the comfort level came back a bit."

...

Mark Slough, Mills' agent, said negotiations with the Patriots began on Monday.

"We've just began talks and I don't think it'll take that long (to get a deal in place)," Slough said.

The agent declined to put Mills' situation in terms of dollars and cents.

A blueprint may be a pair of fourth-round contracts that have been recently signed. Philadelphia's Max Jean-Gilles and Chicago's Jamar Williams have agreed to four-year deals in the $2 million range, including signing bonuses of at least $300,000.

After Mills signs a contract, making the final roster isn't automatic.

 

[nerangers]

Boston Globe Article on Deion Branch...Personally I think the Pats will still get it done. Interesting how they compare Branch and Randel El.

Branch not catching a break on pact (full article)

Deion Branch is blessed with an innate sense of timing. His understanding of route running and how to get open is what separates him from most receivers in the NFL.

His timing with Tom Brady is nothing short of remarkable. He and the Patriots quarterback have made in-game, preplay adjustments via a wink or a nod, or a mere glance.

At his size (5 feet 9 inches, 193 pounds), Branch can't bully defensive backs or be Brady's favorite target because he is easy to spot in traffic.

For Branch, timing is everything.

Unfortunately, the fifth-year pro has had some poor timing when it comes to being paid. And time is running out for Branch and the Patriots to come to a contract agreement that will please him this season. Training camp is two weeks away and the clock is ticking.

Part of Branch's problem is he signed a five-year contract as a second-round pick in 2002. It is something the Patriots insisted on so they would hold leverage on Branch if he turned out to be a top player. Smart move.

That type of forced leverage even led to a change in the collective bargaining agreement (the ``Patriots Clause" as some agents refer to it), limiting contracts to four years for second-round picks, and five years for players taken in the bottom half of the first round. That came too late to help Branch.

Had Branch done like Antwaan Randle El, he would be a rich man today. (And, as is the case with the Steelers and Randle El, the Patriots would be missing him.)

Randle El, taken three picks ahead of Branch, signed a four-year rookie contract with a $930,000 signing bonus. Branch, the 65th pick, got a larger signing bonus ($1.025 million) to sign for five years. As is the case with nearly all picks but first-rounders, Randle El and Branch each were paid the league minimum in base salary per season.

That $95,000 difference in upfront money may not have seemed meaningless then, but it is now, since Randle El took advantage of free agency to grab a $10 million signing bonus from the Redskins in March. Branch has spent the summer dreaming of a similar payday.

 

[TheJoeMachine]

just wanted to say good job to nerangers, i find myself coming here for my quick fix for pats news. keep it up

 

[nerangers]

just wanted to say good job to nerangers, i find myself coming here for my quick fix for pats news. keep it up

Thanks! Sometimes I feel bad if I don't get in to post and keep the thread up to date. I always try to catch up on Saturday if I miss some.

 

[nerangers]

from Boston.com

Quarterback Snapshot

STARTER: Tom Brady (7th year)

RESERVES: Matt Cassel (2nd year), Corey Bramlet (rookie), Todd Mortensen (1st year)

2005 QUARTERBACKS: Brady, Doug Flutie, Cassel

2006 ROSTER LOCKS: Brady, Cassel

OUTLOOK: In Bill Belichick’s previous six years as head coach, he’s always favored having a veteran backup. But barring a free-agent signing in the next few weeks -- Tony Banks, Vinny Testaverde, Tommy Maddox, Shane Matthews and Jeff Blake are among those available -- this will mark the first season under Belichick that Brady will be the most experienced quarterback on the roster. Furthermore, with Bramlet and Mortensen longer shots to make the final 53-man roster, this could be the first year under Belichick that the Patriots have only two quarterbacks on the 53-man roster. The Broncos, under Mike Shanahan, have favored the two-quarterback approach in recent years. Ditto for the Colts under Tony Dungy. The possible reward for such an approach is that it allows a team to keep an extra non-quarterback on the 53-man roster. The risk is that if the top two quarterbacks get hurt, there is no third option on the active roster (only on the practice squad).

QUOTE OF NOTE: “I would feel very confident if he became the No. 2 this year. He’s bright and can grasp it all. He can do the things that Tom does mentally. Not everyone can handle that end of it, and I think he can.” -- Doug Flutie on Matt Cassel’s chances of moving from No. 3 to No. 2 on the depth chart (Boston Globe, May 16, 2006).

 

[nerangers]

Another one signed....it it going Pats!

Mills third rookie to sign

ESPN.com reported on Monday that fourth-round draft pick Garrett Mills signed a four-year contract. Mills is expected to play an H-back role with the Patriots, lining up at both fullback and tight in the New England offense.

Mills inks deal

The Patriots have signed tight end/H-back Garrett Mills to a four-year contract, according to espn.com. Mills becomes the third of the Patriots' 10 draft choices to sign a deal.

The team signed seventh-round pick Willie Andrews and sixth-rounder Dan Stevenson last week.

All three rookie contracts have been four years in length and contain incentives that can increase the salary in the fourth year.

Mills spoke with the Tulsa World last week about his first few months with the Patriots.

 

[nerangers]

Quick Blurp about the Jets rebuilding (from Patriots.com) (Pats opponent first look: New York Jets )(full article)

Overall – The Jets have no sure-thing at quarterback. Their best running back is older than their offensive coordinator. Their head coach is only 35 and only spent one year as the Patriots defensive coordinator. The whole team is being overhauled and redesigned with the defense switching to a 3-4 and the offense doing everything they can to avoid having the second-worst yards per game average in the NFL again this season. The organization passed on Matt Leinart to pick D’Brickashaw Ferguson in the draft and hopes to change the team mindset from Herm Edward’s gamer mentality to Bill Belichick’s team-over-player mindset. They also have a new general manager in Mike Tannenbaum. The whole thing seems to add up to an obvious transition year for the Jets, but like the Dolphins last year, any team can rise up and surprise.

 

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Jonathan Darling of the Standard-Times offers a story on Patriots sixth-round draft pick Jeremy Mincey, who is expected to take the place of departed linebacker Willie McGinest. The 6-foot-3, 260-pound frame gives him the size to fit in a few places on the Patriots' defense. It doesn't hurt, either, that he runs the 40-yard-dash in the 4.6 range. "It was all outside linebacker during minicamp," Mincey said last week. "(The Patriots) like big, physical guys who can run. I just have to keep working hard and making smart decisions and I'll make it."

 

[nerangers]

Maroney - Patriots' rookie back in search of new agent (full article)

There are two lines of thinking regarding Maroney's switch.

One is that the change could slow the pace of negotiations. The Patriots begin training camp July 28, but some rookies are reportedly scheduled to arrive at Gillette Stadium early next week. That leaves a small window for the Patriots and Maroney's new representatives to hammer out a deal.

On the flip side, since rookie deals are essentially slotted, several agents have said they can be finished quickly when both sides are committed.

 

[nerangers]

Running back Snapshot (boston.com)

STARTER: Corey Dillon (10th year)

RESERVES: Kevin Faulk (8th year), Laurence Maroney (rookie), Patrick Pass (7th year), Heath Evans (6th year), Earl Charles (1st year), Patrick Cobbs (rookie)

2005 RUNNING BACKS: Dillon, Faulk, Pass, Evans (signed during season), Mike Cloud (signed during season), Amos Zereoue (signed during season)

2006 ROSTER LOCKS: Dillon, Faulk, Maroney

OUTLOOK: Last year, the Patriots kept three running backs coming out of training camp and had Kory Chapman on the practice squad. When injuries ravaged the group, and Chapman was signed to the Colts’ active roster, the Patriots turned to the free-agent market. To protect against that, the Patriots might be wise to keep four running backs on the 2006 roster, which means Pass and Evans would be vying for the final spot. Charles and Cobbs are longer shots. Perhaps the primary question is how to split the carries among the top three. The Patriots averaged 27 carries per game last season, and an early-season projection (assuming Maroney is in camp on time) would give Dillon 17, Maroney 6 and Faulk 4. Dillon would get the early-season edge based on his experience in pass protection. One potential problem area to watch is how Dillon responds if Maroney cuts into the workload. Also, does Dillon look more like the top-end back of 2004, or the declining back of 2005? When at their best, each of the top three backs bring a different dynamic -- Dillon with power, Maroney the ability to accelerate to top speed quickly, and Faulk a smoothness in the passing game that made him one of the team’s top players in production-per-play in 2005.

QUOTE OF NOTE: “I think the biggest thing for any rookie running back is the passing game -- routes, coverages protections. Most pro teams do a lot more than college teams do in that area. I'm sure that’s true of us and I'm sure that’s true of all pro teams and probably almost all college teams. We do blitz pick up everyday.” -- Bill Belichick on the greatest challenges facing a rookie running back (Patriots minicamp, June 13, 2006).

 

[Boston]

NER-Thanks for the updates...I appreciate the solid effort.

Had a draft last night for a first year keeper league (you keep 6). Ended up nabbing Larry Maroney so now I'm doubly invested in him blowing up.

 

[nerangers]

NER-Thanks for the updates...I appreciate the solid effort.

Had a draft last night for a first year keeper league (you keep 6). Ended up nabbing Larry Maroney so now I'm doubly invested in him blowing up.

I am looking to target him in my dynasty league in our draft in September. Here is hoping he pans out for the Pats! Saw this tidbit mentioning Branch.

* Free-agent receiver Kevin Johnson speaks with the Trenton Times about his status. The piece mentioned that the Patriots had been in contact with him. But Johnson, who ruptured his Achilles tendon in October, doesn't sound as if he's healthy enough to compete in a training camp setting. The Patriots are a bit thin on experience at receiver, and there is also uncertainty regarding Deion Branch contract situation. So it's not a surprise that the Patriots might have contacted Johnson.

 

[DawnBTVS]

ne...keep up with the updates. As a New Englander, I love seeing the updates from you. Looking forward to seeing 'Roney and C-Jax sign soon too.

 

[nerangers]

From boston.com

Wide Receivers Snap Shot

STARTERS: Deion Branch (5th year)

RESERVES: Troy Brown (14th year), Reche Caldwell (5th year), Chad Jackson (rookie), Bam Childress (1st year*), Erik Davis (rookie), Michael McGrew (2nd year), Rich Musinski (1st year*), Matt Shelton (rookie), Zuriel Smith (2nd year), John Stone (2nd year)

2005 WIDE RECEIVERS: Branch, Brown, Childress (1 game), David Givens, Tim Dwight, Andre’ Davis, Bethel Johnson

2006 ROSTER LOCKS: Branch, Brown, Caldwell, Jackson

OUTLOOK: This group has undergone the most significant turnover of any non-specialist position on the roster, with four of last year’s top six receivers not back. The main question is whether Deion Branch and the Patriots can reach an agreement that will bring Branch to training camp. Branch, who is the elite talent of this group, skipped the team’s mandatory minicamp in June due to his contract situation. After Branch, the trio of Brown, Caldwell and Jackson make up the 2-3-4 spots on the depth chart, in no particular order at this time. Of the remaining players, Childress and Stone would project to fight for a potential No. 5 receiver spot due to their added value on special teams. The rest of the players (Davis, McGrew, Musinski, Shelton, Smith) are longer shots. If there are no changes with the personnel at this position throughout training camp, it’s conceivable the Patriots could keep four receivers on the 53-man roster, and make up for that smaller number by keeping four tight ends (one more than 2005) while possibly using speedy tight end Benjamin Watson as a wide receiver at times.

QUOTE OF NOTE: “I think it’s important to be here, but at the same time, he’s working out and ready to go. I remember two years ago, he was hurt for half the year, after that Arizona game. He came back, against KC, and had [six] catches. So if there’s one guy who can just step on the field and play, it’s him. He’s probably our best player on offense.” –- Tom Brady on his level of concern regarding the absence of receiver Deion Branch (at the Patriots’ Charitable Golf Tournament, June 12, 2006).

(* Childress is designated a first-year player after appearing in just one game in 2005, meaning he wasn't credited with an accrued season toward free agency. Musinski, who didn't appear in any 2005 regular-season games, is in a similar situation.)

 

[nerangers]

Pats opponent first look: Miami Dolphins (full article)

Overall – Special teams should be strong again with kicker Olindo Mare and punter Donnie Jones both returning. A lot depends on how quickly Culpepper is game-ready. Two years ago he had 39 touchdown passes and only 11 interceptions, so he could be just what the Dolphins need. Then again, he’s not going to be throwing to Randy Moss this year no matter what. Mularkey could do well as the offensive coordinator, where he certainly has experience, but everyone is going to have to get used to new faces. Miami lacks depth in a few key positions including running back and the defense is going to have to keep its ears open to execute all the stunts and blitzes Capers employs. Don’t be surprised if he and Saban use such plays to make up for a lack of experience in the secondary.

 

[nerangers]

Maroney - Patriots' rookie back in search of new agent (full article)

There are two lines of thinking regarding Maroney's switch.

One is that the change could slow the pace of negotiations. The Patriots begin training camp July 28, but some rookies are reportedly scheduled to arrive at Gillette Stadium early next week. That leaves a small window for the Patriots and Maroney's new representatives to hammer out a deal.

On the flip side, since rookie deals are essentially slotted, several agents have said they can be finished quickly when both sides are committed.

HMMMM....Mixed Reports... Patriots | Maroney has not changed agents

Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:39:50 -0700

Albert Beer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports agent Vance Malinovic said reports New England Patriots rookie RB Laurence Maroney has fired him are "erroneous." According to a published report in Tuesday's editions of the Boston Globe, Maroney recently fired Malinovic and was already in the midst of the league's mandated five-day waiting period for hiring new representation. The problem is a simple mix-up of paperwork. Over the last week, Maroney had to refile some of his paperwork with the union, which may have given the appearance that Malinovic had been terminated. A spokesman with the NFL Players Association said last night the circumstance was "not uncommon" and may have been a simple matter of one agent within the firm being dropped from or added to Maroney's paperwork. Malinovic characterized the negotiations between Maroney and the team as "ongoing."

 

[nerangers]

O'Callaghan signed

The Patriots announced the signing of offensive tackle Ryan O'Callaghan, a fifth-round pick out of California.

He is the fourth of the team's 10 draft choices to sign, following Garrett Mills (fourth round), Dan Stevenson (sixth round) and Willie Andrews (seventh round).

 

[nerangers]

Maroney - Patriots' rookie back in search of new agent (full article)

There are two lines of thinking regarding Maroney's switch.

One is that the change could slow the pace of negotiations. The Patriots begin training camp July 28, but some rookies are reportedly scheduled to arrive at Gillette Stadium early next week. That leaves a small window for the Patriots and Maroney's new representatives to hammer out a deal.

On the flip side, since rookie deals are essentially slotted, several agents have said they can be finished quickly when both sides are committed.

HMMMM....Mixed Reports... Patriots | Maroney has not changed agents

Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:39:50 -0700

Albert Beer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports agent Vance Malinovic said reports New England Patriots rookie RB Laurence Maroney has fired him are "erroneous." According to a published report in Tuesday's editions of the Boston Globe, Maroney recently fired Malinovic and was already in the midst of the league's mandated five-day waiting period for hiring new representation. The problem is a simple mix-up of paperwork. Over the last week, Maroney had to refile some of his paperwork with the union, which may have given the appearance that Malinovic had been terminated. A spokesman with the NFL Players Association said last night the circumstance was "not uncommon" and may have been a simple matter of one agent within the firm being dropped from or added to Maroney's paperwork. Malinovic characterized the negotiations between Maroney and the team as "ongoing."

I really don't care who represents him....let's just get him signed.Maroney follow

Patriots rookie running back Laurence Maroney is back where he started.

Maroney, who terminated his relationship with his agents earlier this month, has re-signed with the same group (Lock, Metz & Malinovic Sports). The official paperwork was filed with the NFL Players Association today, according to NFLPA Director of Communications Carl Francis.

The news is important to the Patriots because it clarifies who they will be negotiating with regarding Maroney’s rookie deal.

Maroney had been recruited by at least one other agent, specifically a former employee of Lock, Metz & Malinovic, before officially re-signing with the group today.

There are a few possible scenarios regarding the way the situation unfolded.

One is that Maroney never intended to leave his original agents. In that case, he was still required to file termination paperwork because the agreement he initially signed was consummated, at least in part, through the former employee of Lock, Metz & Malinovic Sports.

The other is that Maroney was indeed considering a change, perhaps to follow the former employee, before ultimately deciding to stay put.

 

[nerangers]

Another one signed....it it going Pats!

Mills third rookie to sign

ESPN.com reported on Monday that fourth-round draft pick Garrett Mills signed a four-year contract. Mills is expected to play an H-back role with the Patriots, lining up at both fullback and tight in the New England offense.

Mills inks deal

The Patriots have signed tight end/H-back Garrett Mills to a four-year contract, according to espn.com. Mills becomes the third of the Patriots' 10 draft choices to sign a deal.

The team signed seventh-round pick Willie Andrews and sixth-rounder Dan Stevenson last week.

All three rookie contracts have been four years in length and contain incentives that can increase the salary in the fourth year.

Mills spoke with the Tulsa World last week about his first few months with the Patriots.

Glen Farley of The Enterprise confirms that Tulsa tight end Garrett Mills became the latest draft pick to sign on Monday, agreeing to a four-year contract reported to be worth $2.072 million. According to ESPN.com, Mills received a signing bonus of $462,500 as part of a contract that contains minimum base salaries for all four years and an escalator clause that could allow him to increase his pay in 2009 based on predetermined playing time and performance levels.

 

[nerangers]

from boston.com

Tight ends Snapshot

STARTERS: Daniel Graham (5th year), Benjamin Watson (3rd year)

RESERVES: David Thomas (rookie), Garrett Mills (rookie)

2005 TIGHT ENDS: Graham, Watson, Christian Fauria

2006 ROSTER LOCKS: Graham, Watson, Thomas, Mills

OUTLOOK: If Graham and Watson are both healthy, it makes sense to have them on the field together as much as possible. In theory, that would create better matchups for the Patriots because defenses will likely counter with their base package against a two-TE package. Picture Tom Brady stepping to the line of scrimmage, scanning the defense, and then making the play-call based on what matchups he sees against his two big, physical and athletic tight ends. It will be one of the storylines to watch throughout the preseason. For the plan to come together, however, Graham must return to health after having medical work on his shoulder this offseason. He didn’t participate in team drills at the Patriots’ June minicamp, but when healthy is the best blocker of this group and defenses must still account for him in the passing game. Watson appears primed to take the next step in his career and it was interesting to hear him say he felt rookie David Thomas is further along at this point than he was in his rookie year. Thomas showed nice hands in spring camps, while Mills projects to a H-back role, where he'll line up in the backfield or be in motion in addition to playing at the line of scrimmage. With the team likely keeping four tight ends, which is one more than last year, that means another position will have to be thinned (perhaps quarterback or receiver).

QUOTE OF NOTE: “People say they want to show it to their kids, to Little League teams. The thing about that is that if I didn’t make the effort, it would have been 10 times worse because all the guys give so much of themselves. I felt like it was my job." –- Benjamin Watson, on covering the entire field to chase down Champ Bailey on an interception return against the Patriots in the playoffs (Boston Globe, April 12, 2006).

 

[BGP]

I can't think of any club in the AFC I would definitely rate above the Patriots. Several other top clubs took a step back. I'm not convinced the newer clubs on the rise are quite there yet.

 

[nerangers]

July 20, 2006

Pats waive Roehl

Offensive tackle Jeff Roehl, a longshot to make the team's 53-man roster, was waived today.

The 26-year-old Roehl (6-4, 300) was allocated to NFL Europe by the Patriots this year. He was originally signed by the New York Giants as a non-drafted rookie free agent out of Northwestern in 2003.

Roehl signed with the Patriots on Jan. 6, 2005 and was released prior to the start of the 2005 season. He was re-signed by the team on Jan. 30, 2006.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

I can't think of any club in the AFC I would definitely rate above the Patriots. Several other top clubs took a step back. I'm not convinced the newer clubs on the rise are quite there yet.

Whats goin on here? Did hell freeze over?I agree with BGP

 

[Borat]

Wouldn't it be better (and easier) to just post a link to Mike Reiss's blog instead of copying & pasting every one of his updates? Then maybe we could actually discuss the Patriots in this thread?

Just a suggestion. I find this thread to be pretty boring, and kind of wish there was more actual back-and-forth discussion about the Pats instead of just a bunch of articles that you could read over at boston.com.

Not to mention that it's not very fair to Reiss.

No offense, nerangers.

 

[Boston]

Wouldn't it be better (and easier) to just post a link to Mike Reiss's blog instead of copying & pasting every one of his updates? Then maybe we could actually discuss the Patriots in this thread?

Just a suggestion. I find this thread to be pretty boring, and kind of wish there was more actual back-and-forth discussion about the Pats instead of just a bunch of articles that you could read over at boston.com.

Not to mention that it's not very fair to Reiss.

No offense, nerangers.

Start a discussion....

 

[Borat]

Wouldn't it be better (and easier) to just post a link to Mike Reiss's blog instead of copying & pasting every one of his updates? Then maybe we could actually discuss the Patriots in this thread?

Just a suggestion. I find this thread to be pretty boring, and kind of wish there was more actual back-and-forth discussion about the Pats instead of just a bunch of articles that you could read over at boston.com.

Not to mention that it's not very fair to Reiss.

No offense, nerangers.

Start a discussion....

Okay, how about some position-by-position roster questions?Quarterbacks

Will the team bother to sign a veteran at this point, or just go with 2 QBs on their roster, like Denver has done in the past?

Halfbacks/Fullbacks

Will Heath Evans or Patrick Pass make the team? Dillon, Faulk, and Moroney are the only guys I see as locks this season. Garrett Mills is another lock, whether you want to consider him a FB or a TE.

Wide Receiver

Who's the #2 this season? Does anyone think Deion Branch's holdout will last into the season?

Defensive Line

Do you guys think we'll see anything out of Marquise Hill this season? Will he even make the roster? Will Klecko make the team this year? How about Jonathan Sullivan?

Secondary

Samuel, Gay, Poteat, Hobbs, Chad Scott, and Warfield are the CBs. Harrison, Wilson, Gus Scott, Mel Mitchell, Ray Ventrone, James Sanders, and Willie Andrews are the safeties. Obviously, not all of these guys will make the team. Who stays and who goes?

Kicker

Does anyone really think Gramatica will be the one to stick?

 

[Boston]

Wouldn't it be better (and easier) to just post a link to Mike Reiss's blog instead of copying & pasting every one of his updates?  Then maybe we could actually discuss the Patriots in this thread?

Just a suggestion.  I find this thread to be pretty boring, and kind of wish there was more actual back-and-forth discussion about the Pats instead of just a bunch of articles that you could read over at boston.com.

Not to mention that it's not very fair to Reiss.

No offense, nerangers.

Start a discussion....

Okay, how about some position-by-position roster questions?Quarterbacks

Will the team bother to sign a veteran at this point, or just go with 2 QBs on their roster, like Denver has done in the past?

Halfbacks/Fullbacks

Will Heath Evans or Patrick Pass make the team? Dillon, Faulk, and Moroney are the only guys I see as locks this season. Garrett Mills is another lock, whether you want to consider him a FB or a TE.

Wide Receiver

Who's the #2 this season? Does anyone think Deion Branch's holdout will last into the season?

Defensive Line

Do you guys think we'll see anything out of Marquise Hill this season? Will he even make the roster? Will Klecko make the team this year? How about Jonathan Sullivan?

Secondary

Samuel, Gay, Poteat, Hobbs, Chad Scott, and Warfield are the CBs. Harrison, Wilson, Gus Scott, Mel Mitchell, Ray Ventrone, James Sanders, and Willie Andrews are the safeties. Obviously, not all of these guys will make the team. Who stays and who goes?

Kicker

Does anyone really think Gramatica will be the one to stick?

*I think a veteran QB makes sense. While I like Cassell I'm still not sure he's ready to be the legit #2 this year. He could be ready for that role but there's zero downside to having some veteran insurance just in case. Also, in a very worst case scenario (i.e. Brady and Cassell go down) they have nothing currently at #3.*I think Pass is a lock as well. He looked good last year. He's versatile in that he can run, catch, block, play both RB positions and contributes on special teams. As for Evans it will be tough. He helped last year but the fact he doesn't contribute on special teams makes it that much more difficult for him to stick.

*I think Caldwell starts off as the #2. As to who finishes up as the #2 is open for debate. So far reports on both Caldwell and Jax have been good which is a very positive sign. Yet, both players are currently unknown quantities until you see them in live game action. If they both work out this will bode very well for the Pats as their WR depth was horrible last year as both Givens and Troy were hurt for awhile and stiffs like Dwight, Davis and Bethel did very little. As for Branch, I think he plays. He has a year left to free agency and it makes sense for him to be on the field and producing. The better numbers he puts up the bigger payday he's looking at if the Pats don't extend him.

*My biggest concern with the Pats is front 7 depth. As far as the D-line goes there's a myth that the Pats are deep there. They have fantastic four in Seymour, Wilfork, Warren and Green. Afer that it's a monster question mark. So far, Hill has shown nothing. He was drafted as a project but it's been two years and he's yet to make a mark and has been no stranger to injuries. Physically he's a giant and has athletic skills. Unless he totally craps out in camp I think he makes the team but he's on probation as far as his Patriot career is concerned. Klecko just hasn't found his niche. He plays his balls off but right now he's nothing more than a end of roster, depth guy who's best bet to make the team is the lack of depth up front. Sullivan is a complete question mark and his arrest is very troublesome. My guess is you'll know his fate by what type of shape he's in when camp starts. The guy I'm crossing my fingers on is the kid from Nebraska. He was an extremely productive player in a tough conference so hopefully the Pats get another late round steal here because they really need the depth.

*Dbacks (I'm guessing they keep 10):

Definites:

Harrison

Wilson

Sanders

Gay

Samuel

Hobbs

After that my take is:

Atrell Hawkins-Played very well last year all things considered. If he picks up where he left off he'll make the team and contribute.

Willie Andrews-He makes the team and becomes an explosive return man.

Eric Warfield/Chad Scott-I heard Warfield didn't look good at the last camp, hopefully we're not looking at Duane Starks part 2. Since both guys can play CB and S their versatility helps. It wouldn't surprise me if both made it or both got cut. These are two guys who's preseason performance will make or break them.

Mel Mitchell/Tebucky/Gus Scott-Another competition. For Mitchell to make it he needs to really excel on special teams. Since TBuck helps in both areas he'll probably make the team unless he's lost a step. As for Scott I have to believe he's on very thin ice and unless he shines in camp he could be looking for a new team.

Poteat/Vetrone-Unless there's injuries I don't see it happening.

*Gramatica sticks if ski sucks in camp. If he doesn't the Pats have their kicker in the fourth rounder out of Memphis. It's that simple.

 

[Borat]

*I think a veteran QB makes sense. While I like Cassell I'm still not sure he's ready to be the legit #2 this year. He could be ready for that role but there's zero downside to having some veteran insurance just in case. Also, in a very worst case scenario (i.e. Brady and Cassell go down) they have nothing currently at #3.

I think Belichick might be tempted to keep only two and have the extra roster spot to play with, but I agree with you - it's a big roll of the dice, and keeping only 2 QBs could definitely come back to bite them. I'm very surprised there isn't even a veteran in camp to compete for the #2 job. I thought for sure that we'd end up signing Jay Fiedler.

*I think Pass is a lock as well. He looked good last year. He's versatile in that he can run, catch, block, play both RB positions and contributes on special teams. As for Evans it will be tough. He helped last year but the fact he doesn't contribute on special teams makes it that much more difficult for him to stick.

I'm not sure if Pass is a lock. His versatility is obviously his biggest strength, but if Mills can take over the FB role and Willie Andrews can establish himself as a reliable return man, it's tough to figure where Pass would fit in. He did show that he could contribute in many different ways last season, but with Dillon, Faulk, and Moroney locks to make the roster at RB, I think Pass may find himself fighting very hard to make this team (which, of course, is nothing new to him). Another factor to consider with the Pass/Andrews angle is that in case of injury, I think it's far more difficult to find a serviceable defensive back than it is to find a serviceable RB, which would seem to work in Andrews's favor.

I don't see Evans making the team, and certainly not ahead of Pass.

*I think Caldwell starts off as the #2. As to who finishes up as the #2 is open for debate. So far reports on both Caldwell and Jax have been good which is a very positive sign. Yet, both players are currently unknown quantities until you see them in live game action. If they both work out this will bode very well for the Pats as their WR depth was horrible last year as both Givens and Troy were hurt for awhile and stiffs like Dwight, Davis and Bethel did very little. As for Branch, I think he plays. He has a year left to free agency and it makes sense for him to be on the field and producing. The better numbers he puts up the bigger payday he's looking at if the Pats don't extend him.

I pretty much agree with what you've said here. However, if Jackson can outplay Caldwell in the preseason, Belichick has shown that he is not afraid to start rookies. The depth here is somewhat troublesome. I heard the team has even made inquiries to Kevin Johnson, who is still recovering from an injury.I think you are going to see an awful lot of 3 TE sets this season, with Watson, Graham, and Dave Thomas all on the field together. The potential to create mismatches with that personnel grouping is extremely high.

*My biggest concern with the Pats is front 7 depth. As far as the D-line goes there's a myth that the Pats are deep there. They have fantastic four in Seymour, Wilfork, Warren and Green. Afer that it's a monster question mark. So far, Hill has shown nothing. He was drafted as a project but it's been two years and he's yet to make a mark and has been no stranger to injuries. Physically he's a giant and has athletic skills. Unless he totally craps out in camp I think he makes the team but he's on probation as far as his Patriot career is concerned. Klecko just hasn't found his niche. He plays his balls off but right now he's nothing more than a end of roster, depth guy who's best bet to make the team is the lack of depth up front. Sullivan is a complete question mark and his arrest is very troublesome. My guess is you'll know his fate by what type of shape he's in when camp starts. The guy I'm crossing my fingers on is the kid from Nebraska. He was an extremely productive player in a tough conference so hopefully the Pats get another late round steal here because they really need the depth.

I'm with you on LeKevin Smith. If he can come right in and contribute, it would provide a nice boost for the team. Jeremy Mincey has also gotten some looks at DE. I'm also interested to see what last year's surprise in camp, Mike Wright, looks like this season. With these three young players in camp, I think Hill and Klecko may end up battling it out for one roster spot. I also agree with you that Sullivan had better show up in the best shape of his career, or he will have a very hard time making the team. It is worth noting, however, that the Pats had him playing with the first string in the 4-3 (with Seymour, Wilfork, and Warren), although that was probably just to give him a look (hard to believe he'd be higher on the depth chart right now than Jarvis Green).

*Dbacks (I'm guessing they keep 10):

Definites:

Harrison

Wilson

Sanders

Gay

Samuel

Hobbs

After that my take is:

Atrell Hawkins-Played very well last year all things considered. If he picks up where he left off he'll make the team and contribute.

Willie Andrews-He makes the team and becomes an explosive return man.

Eric Warfield/Chad Scott-I heard Warfield didn't look good at the last camp, hopefully we're not looking at Duane Starks part 2. Since both guys can play CB and S their versatility helps. It wouldn't surprise me if both made it or both got cut. These are two guys who's preseason performance will make or break them.

Mel Mitchell/Tebucky/Gus Scott-Another competition. For Mitchell to make it he needs to really excel on special teams. Since TBuck helps in both areas he'll probably make the team unless he's lost a step. As for Scott I have to believe he's on very thin ice and unless he shines in camp he could be looking for a new team.

Poteat/Vetrone-Unless there's injuries I don't see it happening.

I think Hawkins definitely makes the team. In fact, I'll take it a step further: I think he starts at safety if Harrison is unable to begin the season. From his versatility to his leadership, I think Belichick really likes what Hawkins brings to the table.Willie Andrews probably has a good shot at a roster spot if he is even a serviceable defensive back. The team would love to have someone who can really bring something to the return game. I think it goes without saying that they don't want to continue to bring Troy Brown out to return punts at this stage in his career. What happens with Andrews will probably have a strong influence on whether or not Patrick Pass makes the team; it will also be interesting to see if Kevin Faulk is used more as a return man this season.

I agree with Warfield and Scott, although I think Scott probably has a slightly better chance at making the team, having been in the system for a year. I also heard the same thing about Warfield not looking very good in camp. Just an aside, but did Starks end up signing on with anyone?

I think your assessments of Mitchell, Tebucky, Gus Scott, Poteat, and Ventrone were right on, although I would probably pick Mitchell as the favorite to make the team out of that group right now.

*Gramatica sticks if ski sucks in camp. If he doesn't the Pats have their kicker in the fourth rounder out of Memphis. It's that simple.

I agree, the rookie is going to have to really, really blow it for him to not get the job.