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Pat' off season and next year (1 Viewer)

I remember after the draft seeing a lot of FA players go to Dallas that I was hoping would end up in NE.

Scout swap (Link)

Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli was present at Dallas Cowboys practice yesterday in Oxnard, Calif., as part of a scout swap between the teams.

In turn, the Cowboys had a chief scout at Patriots practice on Monday and Tuesday.

The scout swap is designed to help both clubs evaluate players on the other team's roster. The Cowboys have some depth at linebacker, which could potentially help the Patriots. Meanwhile, the Patriots have some depth at offensive tackle, an area of need for the Cowboys. Both teams are seemingly seeking help at receiver.

 
KFFL: Patriots | Graham dinged during drill Tuesday

Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:15 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots TE Daniel Graham (shoulder) was dinged Tuesday, Aug. 15, during a drill with other tight ends. The medical staff attended to him and slung a harness over each shoulder before putting his shoulder pads back on. Graham was barely able to participate in a drill afterward.

 
KFFL: Patriots | Graham dinged during drill Tuesday

Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:15 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots TE Daniel Graham (shoulder) was dinged Tuesday, Aug. 15, during a drill with other tight ends. The medical staff attended to him and slung a harness over each shoulder before putting his shoulder pads back on. Graham was barely able to participate in a drill afterward.
Can anyone remember the last time Graham wasn't nicked up? The guy is a monster asset with his blocking but he never seems to be healthy.
 
KFFL: Patriots | Graham dinged during drill Tuesday

Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:15 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots TE Daniel Graham (shoulder) was dinged Tuesday, Aug. 15, during a drill with other tight ends. The medical staff attended to him and slung a harness over each shoulder before putting his shoulder pads back on. Graham was barely able to participate in a drill afterward.
Can anyone remember the last time Graham wasn't nicked up? The guy is a monster asset with his blocking but he never seems to be healthy.
Which is why I always refer to him as Graham Cracker. He's good, but brittle.
 
Wasn't he under contract with the Dolphins? can he just unretire???

Report: Seau to visit

The San Diego Union-Tribune is reporting that the Patriots are set to host linebacker Junior Seau on a visit at Gillette Stadium. The 37-year-old Seau had announced his retirement three days ago.

The report indicates that the Patriots could sign Seau if the visit goes well.

EDIT: FBG had a good discussion thread already on the subject (Click here)

Before his retirement ceremony Monday, Seau, a 12-time Pro Bowl selection, said he was leaving the game because there wasn't a team that needed him. He said there were clubs that wanted him, but not one that viewed him as a key element to winning a championship.

That isn't the case with the Patriots, who have claimed three of the past five Super Bowls and could be among the favorites again if they're able to improve their linebacking corps and upgrade at wide receiver, where former Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch is holding out in a contract dispute.
 
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Seau signed :yes:

The Patriots announced the signing of linebacker Junior Seau today. The team also announced the signing of veteran tight end Chris Luzar and the release of tight end Walter Rasby.

The 37-year-old Seau has played in 230 games with 227 starts in his NFL career. Seau flew into town late last night and was present at Gillette Stadium today. He projects as an inside linebacker in the team's 3-4 defense.

 
Wasn't he under contract with the Dolphins? can he just unretire???
The Dolphins cut the guy if I recall. And as long as he doesn't officially file his retirement papers with the league, he isn't technically retired.Sad how he gives a rousing speech about "graduating" from the NFL, that he wants no one to be sad for him, then a few days later he signs with another team. I guess he really didn't graduate. I guess he is that desperate. Sad that a HOFer hangs on like he did. He stayed in Miami a season or two too long already.Is he really going to contribute in New England? Is he even a guarantee to make the team? How many games has he missed the past three years? His play declined to the point where a rookie LB beat him out of his job even when he was healthy.I don't see this helping NE's LB situation at all. They have more than enough DLs to go around. Why not make the best use of your personel and just play a 4-3?
 
I just hope Seau has more left in the tank than Chad Brown did last year. :bag:

I'm also not convinced that the 4-3 would solve many problems since a) we don't have quite enough depth at DL for a 4-man line and b) A number of players (Bruschi, Wilfork, and Colvin in particular) are much better suited for the 3-4 than the 4-3.

 
I don't know everything about the Pats, however Wilfork seems nearly identical (according to my untrained) to a dude named Tim Bowens that used to play for Miami. Bowens was a darned good run stopping 4-3 DT.

Colvin, if I recall played WLB pretty well, well enough to lead the Bears in sacks for two years.

I don't really know where Vrabel will fit in, but Bruschi is a good enough football player to where you could have him play any LB position and he'd be an excellent player. Seymour is just as diverse.

I think don't a front four of

Green-Wilfork-Warren-Seymour

with

Colvin-Vrabel-Bruschi

would be too hard to stomach.

That keeps your best players on the feild, and keeps questionable ones off.

 
I don't know everything about the Pats, however Wilfork seems nearly identical (according to my untrained) to a dude named Tim Bowens that used to play for Miami. Bowens was a darned good run stopping 4-3 DT.Colvin, if I recall played WLB pretty well, well enough to lead the Bears in sacks for two years.I don't really know where Vrabel will fit in, but Bruschi is a good enough football player to where you could have him play any LB position and he'd be an excellent player. Seymour is just as diverse.I think don't a front four of Green-Wilfork-Warren-SeymourwithColvin-Vrabel-Bruschiwould be too hard to stomach.That keeps your best players on the feild, and keeps questionable ones off.
This is a reasonable proposal, but In Bill We Trust. I have no problem deferring all judgement-based coaching to his perview. And I think Wilfork would be insulted if he had more help on the line... :D
 
Wow, been awhile...that is what vacation does to you! lol

The Patriots announced the release of the following six players:

CB Hank Poteat

ILB Freddie Roach

WR Rich Musinski

WR Keron Henry

OL Brian Barthelmes

OL Nick Steitz

Coach B on CB Hank Poteat: "He's a great kid, a good player to coach. He worked hard. He made some big plays for us, played in some big games. I have no issues at all with Hank. He worked hard in the offseason program. We just felt like there were some players ahead of him and that's why we did that. I have total respect for Hank, his work ethic, his toughness, his competitiveness. It was a tough one this morning."

 
Wow, been awhile...that is what vacation does to you! lolThe Patriots announced the release of the following six players:CB Hank PoteatILB Freddie RoachWR Rich MusinskiWR Keron HenryOL Brian BarthelmesOL Nick SteitzCoach B on CB Hank Poteat: "He's a great kid, a good player to coach. He worked hard. He made some big plays for us, played in some big games. I have no issues at all with Hank. He worked hard in the offseason program. We just felt like there were some players ahead of him and that's why we did that. I have total respect for Hank, his work ethic, his toughness, his competitiveness. It was a tough one this morning."
I'm a little surprised to see Freddie Roach on that list. I hadnt seen him in games but had heard he was making a good case for making the team.
 
Wow, been awhile...that is what vacation does to you! lolThe Patriots announced the release of the following six players:CB Hank PoteatILB Freddie RoachWR Rich MusinskiWR Keron HenryOL Brian BarthelmesOL Nick SteitzCoach B on CB Hank Poteat: "He's a great kid, a good player to coach. He worked hard. He made some big plays for us, played in some big games. I have no issues at all with Hank. He worked hard in the offseason program. We just felt like there were some players ahead of him and that's why we did that. I have total respect for Hank, his work ethic, his toughness, his competitiveness. It was a tough one this morning."
I'm a little surprised to see Freddie Roach on that list. I hadnt seen him in games but had heard he was making a good case for making the team.
This was on the Boston.com Blog:BB on ILB Freddie Roach and if his release was due to injury: "No. I think we have players ahead of him at his position. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to participate in everything for some of the last couple of weeks, practices and games. Again, I don't look at it as a case of him falling behind as other people getting more of an opportunity to move ahead, which a lot of them have done."
 
The Branch Saga continues, but hopefully coming to an end soon...

Kraft on Branch:

“We’ll know the answer to that within three days," Kraft said when asked about his optimism level regarding Branch. "Like all the fans, I appreciate and think Deion is very special. But we have to let things work their way out and we’ll see what happens come Friday.”

When asked if there was a possibility that a resolution wouldn't be reached by Friday, Kraft said: "I think what you have to do is figure out what resolution and optimistic means to you. I think all of us know what we prefer and like to see happens. We’ll wait to see what happens.”

The Patriots gave Branch a Friday deadline to negotiate with other teams.

 
I think they cut Hank early out of that respect, to allow him the opportunity to possibly catch on with another club. On the Branch scenario, I think reality is sinking in. The Pats offer is the market for Branch. Take the money. Everybody in the NFL realizes that Brady is largely responsible for making Branch look Good. It's a gamble to take him away from Brady for even that sized contract. Dude has never had over 5 TD's in a season, and they're offering him a deal that's worth around 30 million and 13 million of that up front? Come on? Undepaid? I don't think Deon or his agent have any sense of reality when they talk about underpaid. You are a cog in a well built machine Deon, and you are not the central cog, nor an irreplacable cog. Sign the contract, while you can, because if you don't, you will not see anything that's 80% of this after Friday. Wow, this original post was a long time ago.

I see the WR corps coming back w/ Branch at #1, Andre Davis at #2. After that, it's up in the air. Givens, I'm thinking, is probably gone. I'd love to see him stay, but preparing myself for the worst. Troy Brown? Still a very solid 4-5. Bethel Johnson? I just don't see him back. He's fast, but never developed.
Branch will be signed, probably taking the 3 year deal on Friday, or at least that's my hope. Caldwell can't be the 2, can he? Really, the WR race is open. Brown looksl like the 3 to me. The ageless, surehanded wonder. He's a class act. The WR position is up in the air. I have little fear, because they don't have to be great, just good.
QB. Brady. and CAssell as the backup is solid. Anybody who saw him against Miami has to believe that he'll only be in NE for a few years and then a solid starter somewhere else. The kid does look good. Can Flutie come back next year? I think he can, but I also think he was more of a safety net this year, while Cassell developed. I see a rookie at the #3 slot. Risky? Yes, but you can't waste cap room on anything else.
I stand by my words at the close of the season. I think they'll have two QB's on the team, and Bramlett on the practice squad. I do look forward to seeing Cassell plaly in the NFL someday. He appears to have a certain moxie about him that will make him a Bradyesque QB. In and NFC Uni of course.
RB. My biggest area of concern. I love Corey Dillon. But, IMHO he was never in good shape this year. Age? I'll agree, but we need to draft a solid young RB. Faulk makes great plays, but he also puts the ball on the ground, a lot. Pass is a very solid FB who can tote the rock in a pinch. But, NE really needs to address the position this off season. I also see Heath Evans back next year.
The Pats appear to have a wealth of riches at RB in Camp. Dillon, Maroney, locks. Evans appears to be the lock at FB. I'd think Pass is a lock because of his versatility in the special teams. Cobbs looks too good to let go. Does that leave Faulk as the odd man out? They can't carry six RB's, can they? Because I think they'll carry 4 TE's. With Mills capable of playing FB. I'm excited, because we haven't broken camp with even two guys that I had confidence in toting the rock, and now we have three ball carriers, and three solid blockers.
TE. I think they're in great shape. Watson lost his rookie season, so this really was it. But, man when the kid came on late in the season, he was everything I expected. Anybody see the overhead shot of him chasing down Bailey, at altitude? That dude can fly. He's stong, great hands. They've got to get him into the offense more. Dan Graham is like another tackle on the line. And, he's got great hands and can get down the field. To be fair, the TE's didn't catch many balls this year, because they were in for protection a lot, with all the line injuries. But, I don't think there's any change at the position.
Graham Cracker!!!! I love it. Sad, but true. Plays like a tackle, with all the toughness of a backup kicker. But, a wealth of talent, with Graham, Watson, Mills and Thomas all making the team.
Oline-I think we're in great shape. We lost our center, Koppen, our Left Tackle and left guard for most of the year. And still were decent. With light and Koppen back next year, and Mankins having a season under his belt, and Kaczur with a lot of PT to come off the bench. We're in good shape here, though I expect another mid round pick in the draft.
I couldn't be happier with where we're at here. Apparantly found a starter in O'Callaghan in the 5th round, or at least a very solid backup, which just improves the depth is what was already going to be a pretty deep line, due to the forced trial by fire last year, because of injury. Not worried at all here. This will be one of the top units in the league. Less than 20 sacks, and a 5.0 ypc.D-Line, still think our front 3 is the best in the game. By the end of the year, the rest of the league will speak as highly of Wilfork as they do of Seymour. Our backup NT plays on special teams. I love that. Ty Warren doesn't get the accolades he deserves, because he plays with such greats, but he's a top 10 DT. With Green Wright and Sullivan coming off the bench, we have depth. LB-Signing Seau was HUGE> He can't go 60, but he can go hard for 30. It allows BB to move Vrabel in and out, taking advantage of his immense talent. Would like a little more depth here. I want to see Tully Banta-Cain, and see if he's hit his potential. That would be huge. He's been coming. Also Don Davis. They've been there, and know the system. BB hasn't been holding them for nothing. The secondary has me worried, but the from 7 are so good that they don't have to be great, just good, and having Harrison back there to be the traffic cop will be the glue to hold them together. He was sorely missed. I'm optomistic that they can be a top 5-10 D, and probably higher, solely on the strength of the front 7. If the DB's have gotten the system down, they are top 5.
 
LB-Signing Seau was HUGE> He can't go 60, but he can go hard for 30. It allows BB to move Vrabel in and out, taking advantage of his immense talent. Would like a little more depth here. I want to see Tully Banta-Cain, and see if he's hit his potential. That would be huge. He's been coming. Also Don Davis. They've been there, and know the system. BB hasn't been holding them for nothing. The secondary has me worried, but the from 7 are so good that they don't have to be great, just good, and having Harrison back there to be the traffic cop will be the glue to hold them together. He was sorely missed. I'm optomistic that they can be a top 5-10 D, and probably higher, solely on the strength of the front 7. If the DB's have gotten the system down, they are top 5.
The central issues, IMHO, are the health of Bruschi and the play of Banta-Cain. If these two variables play out favorably, I agree with top 5.
 
I know the backfield is crowded, but I liked watching the kid play. :thumbup:

Patriots | Cobbs a candidate for team's practice squad

Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:38:54 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots RB Patrick Cobbs is a candidate to be placed on the team's practice squad.

 
Remember when the Dolphins were once in your rearview mirrow and now they've pulled right along side you?

<---- Dolphin's fan :ph34r:

 
Remember when the Dolphins were once in your rearview mirrow and now they've pulled right along side you?<---- Dolphin's fan :ph34r:
I remember a lot.I remember the Patriots being behind the Dolphins from when I started watching in the early 70s up until the beginning of the Belichick dynasty.As to your comment, that will be determined in the regular season.Saban is great, but your pass defense isn't there yet.Brady and company will go 5 wide on your DBs. :football:
 
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Faulk is a lock to make the team imo. He has looked great in his 3rd down role this pre-season.

P.S. I live in Winnipeg, that is in Canada. I just ordered tickets for the Oct 30 Monday nighter in Minnesota. I will be debuting my Maroney road white jersey for the event. I am going with 7 buddies that are huge Viking fans.

 
Remember when the Dolphins were once in your rearview mirrow and now they've pulled right along side you?
I think the Phins are certainly headed in the right direction, and I think Saban is one hell of a coach.But I think you're still another year away.
 
53 thoughts (full article)

Won't post the whole team prediction here. I am not comfortable with just the two QBs here. It seems like a risk. I know it worked out with the Brady situation, but that does not mean lightning will strike twice if something ever happened. Not sure who they would have to drop to fit in another QB. If the rumors are right about Volek, I wouldn't mind seeing him added to the roster.

:2cents:

 
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I know the backfield is crowded, but I liked watching the kid play. :thumbup:

Patriots | Cobbs a candidate for team's practice squad

Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:38:54 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots RB Patrick Cobbs is a candidate to be placed on the team's practice squad.
I disagree w/ Reiss. Especially if Pass starts the year on the PUP. No way can they go into the season w/ 4 guys on the roster. You still have MIlls, granted, but even w/ Mills, I see them carrying 5 backs. I see a hard cut coming here. My view on Cobbs is that he'd never make it to the practice squad. Somebody would take him. He's been too good. Do they need him? No. But, he's young, and Dillon's aging. He's the type of guy they need to develop and keep for 2-3 years on. I see him as replacing Faulk, and am bracing myself for a Faulk cut. He puts te ball on the ground in inopportune times. This is a younger, cheaper version. It's the move I've seen BB make many times. Not saying he will, but it's what I'm leaning toward.

I love K. Faulk, but in the cap era, this is the guy you're looking for. A younger, cheaper version of the same guy, that can be coached up to do the same thing. In a sense I would be surprised to see the move, and in another, I wouldn;'t. We'll know by Saturday, and Tonights game we'll see a lot more of Cobbs to see if that should happen.

 
53 thoughts (full article)

Won't post the whole team prediction here. I am not comfortable with just the two QBs here. It seems like a risk. I know it worked out with the Brady situation, but that does not mean lightning will strike twice if something ever happened. Not sure who they would have to drop to fit in another QB. If the rumors are right about Volek, I wouldn't mind seeing him added to the roster.

:2cents:
With the strength of the line, I don't see a lot of hits on Brady, and Brady's tough as nails. Injuries can happen, but it's a hedged bet. I wouldn't say I'm comfortable w/ it, but this is the spot U want them to save for keeping an extra back, namely Cobbs. I'd love to keep both Faulk and Cobbs. If they could just get Cobbs straight to the practice squad, I'd be comfortable, but if they cut him, he'll sign in Houston or somewhere. Many teams are in dire need of RB. I haven't seen Bramlet play, but they must think they'll be able to get throgh, or have something up their sleeve. Maybe they've got Flutie on the line should they need a third at a point in the season? With the strength of the line, and Brady's ability to shed the ball, he wont take near the shots he took last year.

 
I'm torn over the Faulk situation.

My initial reaction is, if Branch works things out, cut Faulk and go with Cobbs. While Faulk has great hands for a RB, he does always seem to cough the ball up at the worst possible times. Let Faulk latch on with another team and rid yourself of those fumbling/injury concerns with him. However, if Branch doesn't fire his ######ed agent and get back with the team, Faulk's value as a pass receiver increases significantly. Cobbs is an unproven commodity at this point.

I doubt that Cobbs makes it through waivers and to the NE practice squad. Any team that studies film on this guy has to be impressed. Granted, he has done alot in limited action, but he really wasn't going against the 1s. That being said, he looks like he is explosive and hits the hole hard.

It wouldn't surprise me if Denver grabs NE's second Cobbs if NE tries to get him through waivers.

 
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Remember when the Dolphins were once in your rearview mirrow and now they've pulled right along side you?<---- Dolphin's fan :ph34r:
Two games back is not along side. They've made moves, and are improving, but the closing of the gap last year was an illusion because of the devestation to the Pats by injuries. With over half of our starters our last year, you still couldn't win the division. That's sad. And now our backups have that much more experience, giving us that much more depth. It just widened the gap between us.
 
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Faulk getting cut is not even in the realm of possibility. He is a favorite of both the coaching staff and players as he's one of the best third down backs in the NFL who happens to have a very doable contract. The guy can run, catch and is very good in pass protection as well as being able to return punts and kicks. You can't get much more versatile than Faulk which is always a plus with BB. He's able to contribute in a ton of different ways in both the running and passing games which means he helps keep defenses off balance. Faulk is not an every down player and when he gets used too much he loses some efectiveness...yet, with Maroney and Dillon in the mix that's not an issue.

Faulk's spot on the roster is about as safe as you get. He's not going anywhere any time soon. I like what I've seen out of Cobbs but being productive in preseason against second teamers pales in comparasion to what Faulk has contributed to this team over the years and will continue to contribute.

 
trade a back to the Jets or Vikings, one that doesn't scare you but will be effective for them.

No way Faulk gets cut, crazy talk

2 QBs-eh so what, I'd like that.

I'd like them to keep a roster spot open for a QB actually. Fitzpatrick and Ragone have done great in preseason and Linehan's gonna have to make a tough choice. Neither is PS eligible. Also, I like Printers and draft guys love Croyle so there will be another QB available. I know the plan is Cassel and I'm fine with that. No prob with depth though. If we trade one, cool we got value for something another team didn't. Before a reply-Rams and Chiefs likely can't trade because teams assume they have to cut one. If we free a roster spot we don't+ it changes everything

Don't worry about Cobbs. Our Fb, Pass, Faulk we have depth behind Maroney and Dillon. Young guy would probably be best served elsewhere with Maroney around too. I'd say it would never have made it to where Cobbs plays anyway. There'd have to be too many injuries for that to happen

 
I know the backfield is crowded, but I liked watching the kid play. :thumbup:

Patriots | Cobbs a candidate for team's practice squad

Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:38:54 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots RB Patrick Cobbs is a candidate to be placed on the team's practice squad.
I disagree w/ Reiss. Especially if Pass starts the year on the PUP. No way can they go into the season w/ 4 guys on the roster. You still have MIlls, granted, but even w/ Mills, I see them carrying 5 backs. I see a hard cut coming here. My view on Cobbs is that he'd never make it to the practice squad. Somebody would take him. He's been too good. Do they need him? No. But, he's young, and Dillon's aging. He's the type of guy they need to develop and keep for 2-3 years on. I see him as replacing Faulk, and am bracing myself for a Faulk cut. He puts te ball on the ground in inopportune times. This is a younger, cheaper version. It's the move I've seen BB make many times. Not saying he will, but it's what I'm leaning toward.

I love K. Faulk, but in the cap era, this is the guy you're looking for. A younger, cheaper version of the same guy, that can be coached up to do the same thing. In a sense I would be surprised to see the move, and in another, I wouldn;'t. We'll know by Saturday, and Tonights game we'll see a lot more of Cobbs to see if that should happen.
I would be shocked if Faulk got cut. I would be even more shocked if it was for Patrick Cobbs.
 
I don't think NE will cut Faulk.

However, I would like to see more of Cobbs. I doubt he makes it to the PS though. Evans, Faulk, Maroney, Dillon and Pass are probably the backs they stick with. Maybe the thinking is that Maroney is the youth movement so there is no pressing need to cut Evans or Pass in favor of a guy (Cobbs) that isn't a FB, but has shown some skills running the ball.

 
Okay, so Cobbs Will get cut. I still hope he makes it to the practice squad. I like his potential to replace Faulk. Not at this point, but in the future.

 
I don't think NE will cut Faulk.

However, I would like to see more of Cobbs. I doubt he makes it to the PS though. Evans, Faulk, Maroney, Dillon and Pass are probably the backs they stick with. Maybe the thinking is that Maroney is the youth movement so there is no pressing need to cut Evans or Pass in favor of a guy (Cobbs) that isn't a FB, but has shown some skills running the ball.
Pats trade RB Cobbs to Steelers Written by: Mike Reiss ¦ 9/1/2006

Source: www.boston.com

The Patriots have traded running back Patrick Cobbs to the Pittsburgh Steelers for an undisclosed draft choice.

http://www.boston.com/

 
The team also announced the release of 10 players: LB Monty Beisel, WR Eddie Berlin, QB Corey Bramlet, TE Chris Luzar, WR John Stone, OLB Chad Brown, CB Vernell Brown, DL Eddie Freeman, OLB Jeremy Mincey, CB Eric Warfield.

 
So what is going on with the Pats???

I am honestly surprised the Branch situation went this long. We still have CAP space correct?

How is Maroney's Knee....not hearing much, but with the lack of depth at WR, you need a healthy running game. I was also surprised they cut Patrick Cobb. He was looking good...I am sure the few pre-season fumbles didn't help.

With the release of Bramlet, the Pats now only have two active QBs (Tom Brady and Matt Cassel). I don't remember a time when there was only 2 QBs on the roster.

With the cuts, it looked like a lot of LB were let go. How is Bruschi?

 
So what is going on with the Pats???I am honestly surprised the Branch situation went this long. We still have CAP space correct?How is Maroney's Knee....not hearing much, but with the lack of depth at WR, you need a healthy running game. I was also surprised they cut Patrick Cobb. He was looking good...I am sure the few pre-season fumbles didn't help.With the release of Bramlet, the Pats now only have two active QBs (Tom Brady and Matt Cassel). I don't remember a time when there was only 2 QBs on the roster.With the cuts, it looked like a lot of LB were let go. How is Bruschi?
Well, they had to cut Cobbs, to get him to the PS., and someoby else would have grabbed him. So, they got something for him at least. I seem him playing a K. Faulk type role in the league in the future, somewhere. He just seems to have the potential to play in the NFL. Sort of looks like a young K. Faulk of a few years back to me. Does a lot of the same things well.On the Branch thing, holy cow. It's crazy to me. The Jets think he's worth a ton of money, but don't want to give up any compensation to the team for taking a player of that caliber that's under contract? Whatever. I don't think that 'reneging' is covered in the CBA, but I could be wrong. They let him negotiate the deal, but the Jets aren't giving the price for a franchise tagee, which he essentially is. The Pats have even agreed toa 1st and mid rounder, and I bet would even take a 1st and conditional. They deserve the value for the pick. Two QB's? If one goes down, there are ample backups. Brady is behind a very good line; where the backups had a lot of PT last year due to injury, and were playing very good together by the end of the year. I'm not too worried here. There are always 3rd QB's, and Doug Flutie is there too. I love the kicker move. It's was about a decade ago they went with a rookie kicker out of South Dakota State that people were questioning. NOw there's a kid from Memphis that looks to be the best kicker out of college in a while. I like the team. WR is a concern, but Branch and Givens were far from household names 3 years ago. I like what I've seen from Childress. Troy Brawn has always been consistent. GO PATS!!!
 
Cleveland cut Ross Tucker, so the Pats will not receive a pick for him.

Brandon Gorin and Patrick Cobbs are two other players the Pats traded for conditional picks, so let's hope they end up making the Cards and Steelers, respectively (I'd be shocked if Gorin gets cut).

 
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Well, they had to cut Cobbs, to get him to the PS., and someoby else would have grabbed him. So, they got something for him at least. I seem him playing a K. Faulk type role in the league in the future, somewhere. He just seems to have the potential to play in the NFL. Sort of looks like a young K. Faulk of a few years back to me. Does a lot of the same things well.
I don't think you need to drop someone before you can assign them to the practice squad...I think you just designate them and that it is. I could be wrong though. I might be missing something about him, but I thought he would be worth at least a practice squad spot. :2cents:
Steelers coach Bill Cowher touched on former Patriots running back Patrick Cobbs in this piece on team's official web site.It looks like Cobbs will not just make the Steelers' roster after being traded by the Patriots, but he could be active on game-day."The kid had a very good preseason, watching him run the ball, catch it and cover kicks," Cowher said. "He was very impressive."
 
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just saw this....Pats got another WR.

Raiders | Team trades Gabriel to New England

Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:47:10 -0700

Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports the Oakland Raiders have traded WR Doug Gabriel to the New England Patriots. The compensation for Gabriel has not been announced yet. Gabriel's departure would seem to leave the door open for WR Jerry Porter, who has requested a trade, to move back into the starting lineup.

He is no Branch, but at least the Pats are going in the right direction I think. I would have liked Porter more!

Check out FBG discussion thread going on about this: Gabriel Traded to the Patriots

 
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I was pretty surprised we released Bam Childress. I know he was never going to be a superstar, but I thought he might have the makings of a solid contributer. Guess not.

 
I don't think you need to drop someone before you can assign them to the practice squad...I think you just designate them and that it is. I could be wrong though. I might be missing something about him, but I thought he would be worth at least a practice squad spot. :2cents:
Maybe you do have to cut them first....practice squadC/G Billy YatesC/G Dan StevensonWR Kelvin KightCB Antwain SpannILB Corey MaysDE Santonio ThomasThe team can still fill two more spots on the practice squad
 
Where are they now? :o

Dan Klecko to the Colts

Guss Scott to the Texans

We claimed Bill's receiver Jonathan Smith (and cut Childress)

 
Experts don't back Branch (full article)

Receiver Deion Branch has filed two grievances against the Patriots, but three experts believe he'll need a Hail Mary to emerge victorious.

``The Pats win this going away," said Boston-based sports attorney Harry Manion, via e-mail from Europe. ``[branch] will say they entered an oral contract to accept fair and reasonable compensation. There are a multitude of legal and [collective bargaining agreement] reasons why this is a dead solid loser."

``It's going to be a tough road for him through arbitration," said Abrams, who also has served as a baseball arbiter at times over the last 20 years. ``As I understand it, his complaint is that the Patriots weren't treating him fairly after they made this offer that he could shop himself to other teams. That could be true, but it's hard to see where he has a contract right that has been violated. If anyone, he is the one violating his obligation to fulfill his contract."

Abrams said it's a ``heavy-hitting" group that will attempt to show the Patriots received appropriate compensation for Branch -- a second-round draft choice -- after giving Branch permission to negotiate with other clubs.

The Patriots likely will counter by saying they have the right to determine the value of the player, and they believe Branch is worth more. Haagen believes the Patriots have the upper hand.

 
I was pretty surprised we released Bam Childress. I know he was never going to be a superstar, but I thought he might have the makings of a solid contributer. Guess not.
I feel the exact same way, he seemed to fit the mold of a poor (ok, destitute) mans Branch.
 
I was pretty surprised we released Bam Childress. I know he was never going to be a superstar, but I thought he might have the makings of a solid contributer. Guess not.
I feel the exact same way, he seemed to fit the mold of a poor (ok, destitute) mans Branch.
I am confused why you have to cut someone before placing them on the practice squad. I am assuming others can pick them up if they put a bid on them.
The Patriots have signed wide receiver Bam Childress to their practice squad today.
 
I was pretty surprised we released Bam Childress. I know he was never going to be a superstar, but I thought he might have the makings of a solid contributer. Guess not.
I feel the exact same way, he seemed to fit the mold of a poor (ok, destitute) mans Branch.
I am confused why you have to cut someone before placing them on the practice squad. I am assuming others can pick them up if they put a bid on them.
The Patriots have signed wide receiver Bam Childress to their practice squad today.
Yes other teams can. It's a 24 hour window and some teams bite their nails off in that time. It's an NFLPA agreement in the CBA because a player can be "stuck" on the PS all year and they figured they'd rather get the chance to play somewhere else. Usually, that wouldn't be the case and they'd be 5th WR or somesuch but....in theory.I'd bet $ Childress plays this year. Quite honestly, I don't like Chad at all yet. If he's half as good as his draft reviews I'll love the Pats pick but geesh he's a whole lot of nothing now. Reche I never liked in SD and I sure hope BB sees something I haven't. Troy can't play forever and I'd swear some weeks he looks much slower than others(lost a step type slow not really slow)I can't imagine Gabriel doing much more than going deep the first week or twoI want that two TE offense in full force in the beginning. I'm much more confident in Graham and Watson and one of the above guys. Or line Watson or Maroney up wide. I keep telling myself BB knows what he's doing with them and with the LBers but geesh he's got me scratching my head on these.
 
Where are they now? :o Dan Klecko to the ColtsGuss Scott to the TexansWe claimed Bill's receiver Jonathan Smith (and cut Childress)
Sometimes it's the only way to look at a player and rolling the dice with Childress not landing on another team is an option. I heard Herm still thinks his QB Printers+Croyle are 3a and 3b and no one established themself. Croyle was a pretty highly rated QB pick by some teams so he'd definitely be picked up. Printers was a CFL stud and maybe no one would grab him. No one did and he made it to their PS. Similarly they love their young linemen and kept 10 or 11 offensive linemen so no one would get them. It's a bit of a game they have to play. I think I read 600 players are cut at about that time so they're hoping they don't stand out amidst all of them.Smith could very well be cut but they're getting a look
 

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