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So much for keeping him on the bench.

The 49ers could not keep rookie linebacker Patrick Willis out of the starting lineup any longer.

Willis was elevated to the starting lineup prior to practice Monday morning. He will take over at the starting weak inside linebacker spot ("Mike"), while Derek Smith moves to strong inside linebacker ("Ted"). Brandon Moore will be removed from the starting lineup, coach Mike Nolan revealed this morning.

Willis had been working with the second-team base defense behind Smith. But his play has been so impressive that the 49ers figured they had to get him into the starting lineup. Moore, who led the team with 114 tackles and 6.5 sacks, was demoted.

The move was less about Moore's performance, Nolan said, and more "due to the what the rookie has done." Willis was the No. 11 overall pick in the draft. As a senior at Ole Miss, Willis was named the Butkus Award winner as the best linebacker in the country

Moore said he was disappointed in the move, which came as a surprise when he was informed this morning. Moore admitted he did not play as well as he had hoped in the first two games of the exhibition season. He missed two tackles in the opener, and one more against the Raiders.

"On this level, you're always fighting for survival," Moore said.

The 49ers will not change their nickel pass defense. Willis will remain on the field when the 49ers go with five defensive backs. Moore will be used as pass-rusher at defensive end on nickel downs, which should keep him fresh throughout the game, Nolan said.

Jeff Ulbrich will also switch positions from the "Ted" linebacker to the "Mike," where he'll be No. 2 on the depth chart behind Willis.

Willis said he was excited about the promotion, but said he has a lot of work to do. He said he would not be calling any family or friends because his move into the starting lineup means nothing if he doesn't take advantage of the opportunity. He said those close to him would have to hear about it via news reports.

Consider it done.

 
Good news, though I'm a bit surprised that it's Moore being bumped and not Smith.
The Niners have jerked Moore around for two years under Mike Nolan. He botched some tackles but is still the second best overall backer on the roster. If anything, it's marginally better for Willis, who now lines next to a less athletic player.
 
Your gonna start your best LB, and Willis became that the moment he was drafted.
 
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Moore seems to be the poster child for type of player that makes a coach want to start him, but others can shine over him. He plays & works hard and shows some ability, but another player can show more upside easily enough. The coach would love to start Moore because he deserves it, but knows down deep the other player has more potential if given the time. Moore is the player that always flirts with 1st string, but really is a second stringer.

 
Wow...I'm suprised to see they took Moore out, but with all the talk of "respecting" Derek Smith, I guess it should not be shocking. Good news for Willis and the 9ers.

 
I may be asking a dumb question here, but I have to ask. How does this affect Manny Lawson? Is Manny in the starting lineup? Worth rostering?

 
UraMoMo said:
I may be asking a dumb question here, but I have to ask. How does this affect Manny Lawson? Is Manny in the starting lineup? Worth rostering?
On the surface it doesnt affect him. Yes he starting. Yes, most certainly if your league has a decent value for sacks.He is playing ROLB in the 49er 3-4.A similar spot where players like Porter, Ware, Merriman and Vrabel play.
 
UraMoMo said:
I may be asking a dumb question here, but I have to ask. How does this affect Manny Lawson? Is Manny in the starting lineup? Worth rostering?
On the surface it doesnt affect him. Yes he starting. Yes, most certainly if your league has a decent value for sacks.He is playing ROLB in the 49er 3-4.A similar spot where players like Porter, Ware, Merriman and Vrabel play.
Agree and disagree. Lawson is playing LOLB. Merriman is usually on the strong side, the other three mentioned are more often weak side backers. And, although I only saw the snaps against Denver, he still looks lost. He was running away from the play on two occasions against the Broncos and looked like Jim Marshall on one play. He may have looked better against the Raiders. Willis' play won't affect that of Lawson unless he's so amazingly good that he improves the rush defense enough to provide more pass rush opportunities. BST is right, though, in that Lawson is only valuable in big play leagues right now, but even that value is marginal until he proves he can be an every down defender and consistently pressure the quarterback.
 
Yes, Lawson does play the left.

Dont know what I was saying, guess I was just thinking he was the rush man in SF. Odd to think Banta Cain is the ROLB.

And as far as Merriman, he started at ROLB every game after he came back from his suspension last year. The final 5+1 playoff. Its in the gamebooks.

Though he does move around.. He started one preseason on right and one on left thus far. But he is the Charger rush man.

 
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Yes, Lawson does play the left. Dont know what I was saying, guess I was just thinking he was the rush man in SF. Odd to think Banta Cain is the ROLB.And as far as Merriman, he started at ROLB every game after he came back from his suspension last year. The final 5+1 playoff. Its in the gamebooks. Though he does move around.. He started one preseason on right and one on left thus far. But he is the Charger rush man.
:drive:I misunderstood the point, BST. I thought you were listing right OLB, not rush OLB. I think we're both saying the same thing.
 
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All I see Moore do is make plays whenever he is in the game. He is definitely not appreciated like he should be, in my opinion.
:clap: Its only a matter of time before that POS Smith is gone for good. The only reason I can see for benching Moore over Smith has been there performance so far. :thumbup: Moore has been extremely aggressive (as usual) this preseason, and has actually overpursued and taken some bad angles. He's missed some tackles he should have made so far. Smith is his normal self...he's in the right place at the right time and does a great job of getting pancaked by the FB, or hanging onto the RBs shoestrings until he trips 7 yards later.I guess Nolan feels its better to have a RB trip over Smith 7 yds downfield vs having Willis, Lawson (who has just been terrible), and Moore overpursue a play and allow the RB to get free in the secondary. And yes, if you need to know, this last sentence was full of heavy sarcasm.
 
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Yes, Lawson does play the left. Dont know what I was saying, guess I was just thinking he was the rush man in SF. Odd to think Banta Cain is the ROLB.And as far as Merriman, he started at ROLB every game after he came back from his suspension last year. The final 5+1 playoff. Its in the gamebooks. Though he does move around.. He started one preseason on right and one on left thus far. But he is the Charger rush man.
:football:I misunderstood the point, BST. I thought you were listing right OLB, not rush OLB. I think we're both saying the same thing.
Which point? :unsure:Rush linebackers often avoid the tight end side. Which put 'em on the right predominatley. But not always. As is the case with Lawson, as you correctly pointed out. More like how McGinest played in the 3-4. Its just occurs way less and thus my brain was classifying Lawson as the ROLB because he is the rush 'backer, when he isnt the ROLB.The second minor point was regarding Merriman and his position in the 3-4. It was more for clarification for my own sanity.
 
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I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??

 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
simply put, he looked awesomeif you have him, be very very glad
 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
simply put, he looked awesomeif you have him, be very very glad
:popcorn: I was VERY impressed. You can forget about the comparisons to Vilma in the 3-4 BTW. Also, if you own Brandon Moore, my condolences. Moore didn't have much work to do by the time Willis was done.
 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
He was definately all over the field. The 49ers have a pretty decent secondary so I wouldn't be surprised if opponents favor the run game. I would have no problem starting him against the Rams next week.
 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
He was definately all over the field. The 49ers have a pretty decent secondary so I wouldn't be surprised if opponents favor the run game. I would have no problem starting him against the Rams next week.
OK, time for a stupid noob IDP question. How good is this guy Dynasty wise? Is he on DeMeco's level? Better or worse than Urlacher?
 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
simply put, he looked awesomeif you have him, be very very glad
:thumbup: I was VERY impressed. You can forget about the comparisons to Vilma in the 3-4 BTW. Also, if you own Brandon Moore, my condolences. Moore didn't have much work to do by the time Willis was done.
Willis and Vilma are totally different situations, both by skill set and scheme. Those comparisions should never have been made.
 
I would say a tier below DeMeco, but another couple games like last night and they are neck and neck imo...but I'm an IDP noob too.

 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
He was definately all over the field. The 49ers have a pretty decent secondary so I wouldn't be surprised if opponents favor the run game. I would have no problem starting him against the Rams next week.
OK, time for a stupid noob IDP question. How good is this guy Dynasty wise? Is he on DeMeco's level? Better or worse than Urlacher?
I don't think this is an aberration. I still believe he's a LB1 now and in the long term.
 
Warhogs said:
I had to work last night and missed most of the game. What are the thoughts on Patrick Willis after game 1. The little bit of the game I saw I heard him mentioned quite a few times as being all over the field. Thoughts??
simply put, he looked awesomeif you have him, be very very glad
:thumbup: I may bench Antonio Pierce for him. Hard to believe that my starting LBs may have a combined tenure of 1 year (DeMeco)!
 
Great. Thanks for the good news as I drafted him and started him on a young zealots team I took over and am rebuilding. Sounds like Willis and AJ Hawke should make a strong LBer duo for a while for me.

 
I've got Demeco,Willis. M.Peterson, and EJ Henderson for my LB corps. Too bad I can only start 3 out of the 4 per week!

20 Team keeper league, with IDP..

 
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That...guy...is...a...monster.

WOW!

It would be really fun to see him at the MLB in a base 4-3 at the NFL level. I really dig watching Ryans plays but Willis has some physical intangibles that, well, Ryans does not. That is not knocking Ryans. Ryans is tactical with a high level of field acumen. Willis just appears to have another gear and unfriendly disposition that Ryans does not. The kid appears to be a legit bad a**.

The Cards had major problems...MAJOR problems...last night with the 49'ers defense. Sooner, as opposed to later, it was clear that Willis had a pretty good hold on a piece of Leinart's mind share. He was disruptive pre snap. He is a rookie. That just does not happen very often. The Cards could not decipher where the blitz was coming from all night. Note all the false start penalities. Note the total passing yards. Note the routes ran. Note the number of rushing attempts.

Willis had a tremendous impact on the game.

 
Willis is the real deal - a la Ray Lewis, DeMeco Ryans, etc.

I missed out on Ryans this year by one stinking draft slot. However, snagging Willis has eased that pain as I "lucked" into the best LB corps I have ever assembled (redraft).

Briggs - Tatupu - Willis - Cooper - Derek Smith (Willis insurance)...I could have had Beason, but took Cooper instead as I didn't want to have two rooks.

Enough about my team (who cares)...

Willis already seems to get it and his athleticism allows him to move all over the place pre-snap and still have the presence of mind to drop back into his role after snap. The jump he got on Leinart when ARI was pinned deep was unbelievable. He reminds me a lot of Ray Lewis - nasty disposition and all.

 
seems i remember after the draft there were a lot of people that didn't like the situation Willis was drafted into, well how things change in 4 months. sure glad i went ahead and drafted him, i really like what i saw the other night.

have used this board to help me build my IDPs, didn't know squat a couple years ago, now i know just a little more than squat.

good stuff guys.

 
It is not so much what Willis is doing in terms of stuffing the stat sheet but it is also what he is allowing the 49'ers to do on defense. It is not an accident that they are much improved on that side of the ball. Really solid player.

 
I didn't see much of the week 2 game, but the fact I saw him in the backfield seemingly every series impressed me...and I noticed this while working.

He's def the real deal. He played in the SEC (like Ryans), however on a team with much less capacity and still excelled (lets remember, DeMeco had Mark Anderson, Roman Harper, etc on his team).

I don't doubt anything about him. I wanted the Stillers to either trade up or do whatever to get him. I still like Timmons, but Willis I thought and still believe is on that Murderer-Lewis, Urlacher, and Thomas level of ability

 

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