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Patriots likely to rule NBC's 'flex' options down stretch (1 Viewer)

BustedKnuckles

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By Michael Hiestand, USA TODAY

Play along: Here's your home version of 2007 NFL flexible scheduling.

First, everybody roll the dice. Whoever wins gets to be the NBC peacock, which this week made the first move in real-life NFL flexible scheduling when TV star New England (9-0) at Buffalo (4-4) in Week 11, originally scheduled as a CBS regionalized afternoon game, was moved into in NBC's Sunday primetime slot — so the entire USA sees it.

NBC's previously-scheduled Chicago (3-5) at Seattle (4-4) Week 11 game was downgraded to Fox regionalized afternoon coverage.

Flex scheduling, in its second season, is meant to make NBC a winner. It came after the NFL's primetime broadcast network showcase in its old TV deals — ABC's Monday Night Football— wound up with bad games and couldn't do anything about it.

Unlike Fox and CBS, which adjusts how much of the U.S. gets simultaneously-played afternoon games based on marquee appeal, ABC was locked into games that looked good months before but didn't by kickoff. In the final four games of its last three MNF seasons, ABC got one game between teams with winning records.

Now, ESPN's MNF is stuck with that single-game scenario. And with some bad luck on matchups this season, its games are averaging 7.5% of U.S. households — down 15% from 2006.

Now, on to flexing's rules. The NFL makes the game-swapping decisions. But CBS and Fox can each protect five of their regularly-scheduled Sunday afternoon games, but not two on the same weekend — and none for season-ending Week 17.

Unfortunately for CBS and Fox, they had to make those picks in early October. And that, says Fox Sports president Ed Goren, make things "very, very difficult for Fox and CBS — it puts a lot of pressure on us."

NBC has more flexibility in flexing: Its game change can come just 12 days in advance and six days before Week 17.

There's more. Only three NFL teams can appear as many as six times in primetime — on NBC, ESPN or the league's own NFL Network — and no team can appear more than four times on NBC. And NBC can't pick up games already slated for primetime on ESPN or the NFL Network.

NBC's average game rating through Week 8 — 10.1% of U.S. TV households — is down 9% from 2006. Flex scheduling starts in Week 11, as NBC got Patriots-Bills while Fox protected New York Giants (6-2) vs. Detroit (6-2).

How it might shake out:

•Week 12. No-brainer here. With NBC already assigned big-market Philadelphia (3-5) vs. mediagenic New England — NBC Sports Chairman **** Ebersol calls the Pats' attempt at an undefeated season the NFL's "biggest story" — it stands pat.

•Week 13. NBC has Cincinnati (2-6) at Pittsburgh (6-2). Not bad. Jacksonville (5-3) at Indianapolis (7-1), seems better — but CBS has that protected. Fox put dibs on New York Giants at Chicago. Meaning, NBC might lobby for Fox's Detroit at Minnesota (3-5). The best matchup — Green Bay (7-1) at Dallas (7-1) — will air on a Thursday in only about 35 million households on the NFL Network, which wants you to complain to you cable operator if you don't get it.

•Week 14. CBS wisely protected Pittsburgh at New England, while Fox put a moat around Giants-Eagles. NBC, slated for Colts-Ravens, might have wanted Fox's Cowboys-Lions — but Dallas, with six primetime games scheduled, is off the board.

•Week 15. NBC has Washington (5-3) at Giants. Both might be in the playoff hunt. If not, since CBS protected Jaguars-Steelers, NBC might take CBS' New York Jets (1-8) at Pats — if the perfect season is still in play.

•Week 16. NBC's Tampa Bay (5-4) at San Francisco (2-6) will likely be dropped from NBC. Best games, not protected: Fox's Redskins at Vikings and Giants at Bills or CBS' Miami (0-8) at New England.

•Week 17. To help NBC get a finale with playoff implications, Fox and CBS can't protect any games in Week 17. Best bets to be moved to NBC, which now has Kansas City (4-4) at Jets: Fox's Lions at Packers or CBS' Titans at Colts. And only about one-third of U.S. households could watch the Pats nail a perfect season in their finale against the Giants — it's on the NFL Network on Saturday.

The league itself is the wild card. In trying to establish itself on Sunday nights — TV's most-watched night — will it just move the best unprotected games to NBC? Or with Fox paying a $712 million average NFL TV rights fee and CBS paying $622 million — compared to NBC's $600 million — will the NFL prioritize protecting its Sunday-afternoon mainstays?

There'll be plenty to second-guess.

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I really like flex scheduling and I think this first run, from the beginning to the end of the current deal, is just a preliminary glimpse of what the future holds. I can see TNT getting in the mix as well as other cable channels creating a four game package in weeks 14-17 for Friday or Saturday nights. Plus, ESPN's monday night football should be the next network to cash in on flex scheduling.

I didn't realize that New England was on NFL Network for week 17 which is when they would complete the perfect season. Maybe there is a little bit of a conspiracy going on with the destruction of the tapes, etc. Shula better be careful or Goodell may suspend him from being in the hall of fame (sorry for the slight hijack but it did fit in here a little).

 
Personally, I hate it.

I like getting out to catch the 1:00 games and I don't know when the next Pats game is for 1:00.

 
This is a dumb question but...I don't subscribe to the NFL Network, but I do live in NE. Is that Giants game exclusive to the NFL or will it be shown on local CBS or FOX?

 
Living in CT is by far the best market right now.... Pats / NYG / NYJ are always on... and I can usually find a Pitt / Indy / Dal game too.

Those Thursday and Saturday Night games not being on TV is totally BS.

 
This is a dumb question but...I don't subscribe to the NFL Network, but I do live in NE. Is that Giants game exclusive to the NFL or will it be shown on local CBS or FOX?
if your in a 50 or 75 mile ratio to the Team's market... you get the game; if not... you are SOL.Mike and the Dog were just talking about this; most of America will miss the crowning of a perfect season.
 
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I really like flex scheduling and I think this first run, from the beginning to the end of the current deal, is just a preliminary glimpse of what the future holds. I can see TNT getting in the mix as well as other cable channels creating a four game package in weeks 14-17 for Friday or Saturday nights. Plus, ESPN's monday night football should be the next network to cash in on flex scheduling.

I didn't realize that New England was on NFL Network for week 17 which is when they would complete the perfect season. Maybe there is a little bit of a conspiracy going on with the destruction of the tapes, etc. Shula better be careful or Goodell may suspend him from being in the hall of fame (sorry for the slight hijack but it did fit in here a little).
#1; Pro Football will not be played on Friday nights on a regular bais.. just won't happen.#2 The NFL has no interest in in selling a quater or even a half a season; they force the cable companies to pay for the entire season... which would then raise our cable rates.

 
I think there is a max on how many primetime games you get in a row. That probably would include MNF and Sunday Night...and maybe even Thursday.

 
I really like flex scheduling and I think this first run, from the beginning to the end of the current deal, is just a preliminary glimpse of what the future holds. I can see TNT getting in the mix as well as other cable channels creating a four game package in weeks 14-17 for Friday or Saturday nights. Plus, ESPN's monday night football should be the next network to cash in on flex scheduling.

I didn't realize that New England was on NFL Network for week 17 which is when they would complete the perfect season. Maybe there is a little bit of a conspiracy going on with the destruction of the tapes, etc. Shula better be careful or Goodell may suspend him from being in the hall of fame (sorry for the slight hijack but it did fit in here a little).
#1; Pro Football will not be played on Friday nights on a regular bais.. just won't happen.#2 The NFL has no interest in in selling a quater or even a half a season; they force the cable companies to pay for the entire season... which would then raise our cable rates.
Probably, but money talks. If the network is willing to pay it could happen. Goodell is moving very quickly in getting his stamp on things in the NFL. I really think we've only seen the tip of the iceburg.
 
Those Thursday and Saturday Night games not being on TV is totally BS.
there are on tv, you just don't get the channel for some reason. I never get this argument, if the same game were played sunday and the game isn't in your market you wouldn't see it anyways.
 
Those Thursday and Saturday Night games not being on TV is totally BS.
there are on tv, you just don't get the channel for some reason. I never get this argument, if the same game were played sunday and the game isn't in your market you wouldn't see it anyways.
Because its primetime... and Saturday Afternoon and Evening games used to be on before "The Network" came along. Its F#ckd that they took those away from us.
 
With the change to the Bills game, NE will hit their max of 6 primetime games. So I don't see how the team could get more primetime games heading forward.

 
With the change to the Bills game, NE will hit their max of 6 primetime games. So I don't see how the team could get more primetime games heading forward.
David, what do you think the odds are that NBC flips its Eagles-Pats game for the later soap opera of Pats-Jets?
 
Those Thursday and Saturday Night games not being on TV is totally BS.
there are on tv, you just don't get the channel for some reason. I never get this argument, if the same game were played sunday and the game isn't in your market you wouldn't see it anyways.
Because its primetime... and Saturday Afternoon and Evening games used to be on before "The Network" came along. Its F#ckd that they took those away from us.
I'm trying to understand you lost something you didn't have in the first place...
 
BustedKnuckles said:
•Week 14. CBS wisely protected Pittsburgh at New England, while Fox put a moat around Giants-Eagles. NBC, slated for Colts-Ravens, might have wanted Fox's Cowboys-Lions — but Dallas, with six primetime games scheduled, is off the board.
I have tickets to the Lions vs. Cowboys game is there any chance this game goes to Sunday night? Why would it matter how many primetime game Dallas has? The Lions never get night games :bitter:
 
BustedKnuckles said:
The best matchup — Green Bay (7-1) at Dallas (7-1) — will air on a Thursday in only about 35 million households on the NFL Network, which wants you to complain to you cable operator if you don't get it.
I have the NFLN because I get DirecTV so I'll see this game, but this still pisses me off. I don't think the NFL plan of having people complaining to their cable companies is going to work. Instead, people are just going to go to a bar to watch the games. It's just a dumb move to limit the number of people who can access your product.
 
BustedKnuckles said:
•Week 14. CBS wisely protected Pittsburgh at New England, while Fox put a moat around Giants-Eagles. NBC, slated for Colts-Ravens, might have wanted Fox's Cowboys-Lions — but Dallas, with six primetime games scheduled, is off the board.
I have tickets to the Lions vs. Cowboys game is there any chance this game goes to Sunday night? Why would it matter how many primetime game Dallas has? The Lions never get night games :bitter:
They limited the number of primetime games team have to keep people interested in more teams and getting exposure to some other franchises.The only way the Cowboys could get another night game is to have the network switch one of their scheduled night games to a day game to get the rights to the night game. I don't know how likely that would be to happen, as the networking giving in to switch probably would lose out in the deal.
 
Yeah! The Bills? The Jets? A bunch of blowouts I will turn-off no later than half-time? Good for advertisers, I'm sure...

 
David Yudkin said:
With the change to the Bills game, NE will hit their max of 6 primetime games. So I don't see how the team could get more primetime games heading forward.
David, what do you think the odds are that NBC flips its Eagles-Pats game for the later soap opera of Pats-Jets?
I'm not sure they would want to swap in a 1-win team and what should be a game over by halftime.
I agree, but I think the whole "soap opera" angle would be the hook. Remember how everyone was anticipating the midfield meeting between Belichick and Mangini after the playoff game last year? And that was before all of the "Camera-gate" stuff happened. The way the NFL markets stuff these days, wouldn't they think people would tune in just to see what might happen, even if the game turns out to be 50-0?
 
BustedKnuckles said:
•Week 13. NBC has Cincinnati (2-6) at Pittsburgh (6-2). Not bad. Jacksonville (5-3) at Indianapolis (7-1), seems better — but CBS has that protected. Fox put dibs on New York Giants at Chicago. Meaning, NBC might lobby for Fox's Detroit at Minnesota (3-5). The best matchup — Green Bay (7-1) at Dallas (7-1) — will air on a Thursday in only about 35 million households on the NFL Network, which wants you to complain to you cable operator if you don't get it.
Is Detroit/Minnesota really a more desirable national game than Cincinnati/Pittsburgh?
 
David Yudkin said:
With the change to the Bills game, NE will hit their max of 6 primetime games. So I don't see how the team could get more primetime games heading forward.
David, what do you think the odds are that NBC flips its Eagles-Pats game for the later soap opera of Pats-Jets?
I'm not sure they would want to swap in a 1-win team and what should be a game over by halftime.
I agree, but I think the whole "soap opera" angle would be the hook. Remember how everyone was anticipating the midfield meeting between Belichick and Mangini after the playoff game last year? And that was before all of the "Camera-gate" stuff happened. The way the NFL markets stuff these days, wouldn't they think people would tune in just to see what might happen, even if the game turns out to be 50-0?
If I'm an advertiser paying big $$$, the last think I want is people changing the channel after 45 minutes when the game is out of hand with 2+ hours of air time left and my commercial ready to go in the second half.So no, I don't think this would make for big ratings, and I don' see them trying to reconfigure the schedule to get that game in primetime.
 
And only about one-third of U.S. households could watch the Pats nail a perfect season in their finale against the Giants — it's on the NFL Network on Saturday.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
 
And only about one-third of U.S. households could watch the Pats nail a perfect season in their finale against the Giants — it's on the NFL Network on Saturday.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Actually, pretty much the entire Northeast will get the game "over the air" thanks to those NFL rules.And David, I agree with you 100 percent about the potential pitfalls of putting that Pats-Jets game in prime time. It's just that I've seen stranger decisions made by the networks, when "marketing" becomes a bigger driving factor than the actual product on the field.If you were NBC and you had to choose between Pats-Eagles and Pats-Jets, which one do you think would have more interest?
 
I'm pretty bummed to find out that Pittsburgh/NE can't be moved to Sunday night. I'm on vacation that week and was hoping to find a nice restaurant/bar to go to and watch the game after dinner.

 
I'm pretty bummed to find out that Pittsburgh/NE can't be moved to Sunday night. I'm on vacation that week and was hoping to find a nice restaurant/bar to go to and watch the game after dinner.
Watch the game, then go to dinner. It'll be on in probably 80-85% of the country (exception being local markets of the other teams playing at 4:15) - where are you going to be?
 
I'm pretty bummed to find out that Pittsburgh/NE can't be moved to Sunday night. I'm on vacation that week and was hoping to find a nice restaurant/bar to go to and watch the game after dinner.
Watch the game, then go to dinner. It'll be on in probably 80-85% of the country (exception being local markets of the other teams playing at 4:15) - where are you going to be?
St. Thomas.
 

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