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Patriots Won't Win It All (1 Viewer)

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Defending Champions Are Running on Empty

Patriots Are Too Banged Up to Return to Super Bowl

By JIM ARMSTRONG

Sports Commentary

Normally, this isn't the smartest thing to say in mid-January, but being a veteran of such phrases, here goes anyway: The Patriots aren't about to win the Super Bowl.

Nothing personal, mind you. If it was personal, I'd pick them to win the next two or three Super Bowls. Because nobody appreciates more than I do what the Patriots have done and how they've done it.

OK, so Bill Belichick is the worst quote this side of Marcel Marceau. Doesn't mean, when he retires, that he isn't going directly to the Hall of Fame without passing Go. I just hope he doesn't show up in a gray sweatshirt for his induction ceremony.

All right, so Tom Brady keeps all the babes to himself, leaving the nice-personality girls for the rest of us. Doesn't mean he's not the best quarterback of his era and a whole lot of other eras. Brady is this generation's Bill Russell, and Peyton Manning is Wilt Chamberlain: Manning has the numbers, but Brady has the championships.

The Patriots transcend the word team. They're more like a phenomenon. And best of all, they don't act like it. It doesn't seem possible for a team with three Super Bowl trophies behind the glass, but they're almost humble.

Tell me the last time you saw a Patriots player spit in an opponent's face. And while you're at it, tell me the last time a Patriots wide receiver broke out some ridiculous look-at-me end-zone dance. You can't. Why? Because the Patriots, as per Belichick's job requirements, fly under the radar.

All they do is beat you. Especially in January. If Reggie Jackson was Mr. October, then Brady is Mr. January. Sure enough, the Patriots won their playoff opener the other day, beating Jacksonville 28-3 for their 10th straight postseason victory.

Be surprised if they make it 11.

Sorry, but these aren't your father's Patriots. Unless, of course, he happens to be their team physician.

Don't let the logo and the mystique fool you. The Patriots aren't destined to win another Super Bowl because of the sheer greatness of Belichick and Brady. They're like everyone else in this era of three-buck-a-gallon gas - they're running on empty.

The Patriots didn't win those three Super Bowls by coincidence. Sure, they had the best coach, but they also had the best players, many of whom will be watching the playoffs from the sideline.

The Patriots are too beat up to win another Super Bowl. Two starters on their offensive line, center Dan Koppen and left tackle Matt Light, are gone for the season, as is safety Rodney Harrison. Then you've got linebacker Tedy Bruschi and tailback Corey Dillon, neither of whom is playing at full speed.

Yes, the Patriots made the playoffs, but that was more a matter of geography than anything else. With apologies to the NFC North, the AFC East was the NFL's worst division in 2005. If the Patriots had been in any other division, they would have been buried by mid-November.

For all their greatness, Belichick and Brady can't will the Patriots to another Super Bowl. They need more players, more healthy bodies. Their running game is the worst of all the teams still alive in the playoffs. Their secondary has more issues than Maurice Clarett. And their offensive coordinator, Charlie Weis, has taken up shop at Notre Dame.

Truth is, if the Patriots had drawn any team but Jacksonville for their first playoff matchup, they would have been vulnerable. Good team, the Jaguars, but as if they were going anywhere in the playoffs with Byron Leftwich at quarterback. The man had broken his ankle in late November, leaving him slightly less mobile than the Statue of Liberty.

Having dispatched of the Jaguars, the Patriots have earned a date with the Broncos in Denver, a game Belichick is calling ''our toughest challenge.'' For once, he isn't talking Coachspeak. He isn't trying to motivate his players. He's telling it like it is.

But even if they beat the Broncos, the Patriots won't be going to the Super Bowl, much less winning it. The Colts are out there. Or should I say they're inside? Having secured the home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, the Colts aren't about to lose to the Patriots.

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing sad or moribund about all this. You want sad and moribund, talk to Raiders fans. You want sad and moribund, talk to the tavern patrons in Green Bay.

With Belichick and Brady around, the Patriots aren't going anywhere. They'll be factors in the Super Bowl hunt for years to come.

They just aren't going anywhere this season.

 
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Isn't he a Denver Post columnist (or Rocky Mountain News)?  Just saying...
Yes, he is. And speaking from a perspective of being an Armstrong reader, Armstrong (as is typical of DEN sportswriters, though Jeff Legwold seems to be a cut apart), has a much greater understanding of donuts & beer than he does of anything relating to football.
 
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Isn't he a Denver Post columnist (or Rocky Mountain News)?  Just saying...
Yes, he is. And speaking from a perspective of being an Armstrong reader, Armstrong (as is typical of DEN sportswriters, though Jeff Legwold seems to be a cut apart), has a much greater understanding of donuts & beer than he does of anything relating to football.
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz. :wall: And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige. :yucky: Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists? ;)
 
The Patriots didn't win those three Super Bowls by coincidence. Sure, they had the best coach, but they also had the best players, many of whom will be watching the playoffs from the sideline.
I stopped reading here.The 2001 Patriots had the best players? :loco:
 
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz. :wall: And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige. :yucky: Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists? ;)
In a word: Yes!I have no question that Woody Paige has pictures of someone important with livestock. I've never seen anyone who knows so little about any sport move so far up the ladder in sports reporting. Maybe sportswriters are like educators - the worse you are at your job, the further they kick you upstairs.
 
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz.  :wall:   And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige.  :yucky:   Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists?  ;)
In a word: Yes!I have no question that Woody Paige has pictures of someone important with livestock. I've never seen anyone who knows so little about any sport move so far up the ladder in sports reporting. Maybe sportswriters are like educators - the worse you are at your job, the further they kick you upstairs.
Totally agree. I hope it becomes clear in this thread that most Broncos fans don't agree with this horrendously premature article. This is a loudmouth homer, not a rational fan, who's writing this trash.
 
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz.  :wall:   And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige.  :yucky:   Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists?  ;)
In a word: Yes!I have no question that Woody Paige has pictures of someone important with livestock. I've never seen anyone who knows so little about any sport move so far up the ladder in sports reporting. Maybe sportswriters are like educators - the worse you are at your job, the further they kick you upstairs.
Woody Paige = great entertainment.
 
Brady is this generation's Bill Russell, and Peyton Manning is Wilt Chamberlain: Manning has the numbers, but Brady has the championships.

Brady is like Russell when it comes to championships and Chamberlain when it comes to women. Not sure who Peyton is like.

Tell me the last time you saw a Patriots player spit in an opponent's face. And while you're at it, tell me the last time a Patriots wide receiver broke out some ridiculous look-at-me end-zone dance.

Ah....Steve Smith argued that Ty Poole spit in his face during the 2003 SB. As far as a WR breakin' out a dance, look at Deion Branch this weekend. The guy does it all the time.

All they do is beat you. Especially in January. If Reggie Jackson was Mr. October, then Brady is Mr. January.

Mr. January....Mr. February....close enough

Sorry, but these aren't your father's Patriots. Unless, of course, he happens to be their team physician.

Or, unless you were born in 2005 or 2006 and wouldn't really know how to read anyway.

They're like everyone else in this era of three-buck-a-gallon gas - they're running on empty.

Has this guy watched the second half of the season at all? If anything, they are playing more inspired now than they have at any time this season.

The Patriots didn't win those three Super Bowls by coincidence. Sure, they had the best coach, but they also had the best players

Holt, Bruce, Faulk, Warner.....these guys were a step below the Patriot players....? The Pats have built their reputation on not having the best players in the league, just the best players for their team.

The Patriots are too beat up to win another Super Bowl. Two starters on their offensive line, center Dan Koppen and left tackle Matt Light, are gone for the season, as is safety Rodney Harrison.

What about guys who were recently injured? While losing Koppen, Light and Harrison have hurt, the team has filled the gaps admirably.

Yes, the Patriots made the playoffs, but that was more a matter of geography than anything else.

And the Dolphins, that lowly 2nd place team in the AFC East, got "lucky" or something when they beat the Broncos 34-10?

And their offensive coordinator, Charlie Weis, has taken up shop at Notre Dame.

And yet Brady has had one of his best years statistically, and they can move the ball against anyone. Great point.

Truth is, if the Patriots had drawn any team but Jacksonville for their first playoff matchup, they would have been vulnerable. Good team, the Jaguars, but as if they were going anywhere in the playoffs with Byron Leftwich at quarterback. The man had broken his ankle in late November, leaving him slightly less mobile than the Statue of Liberty.

Ask the Colts, the concensus top-rated offense in the league, how bad the Jaguars are.

Having secured the home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, the Colts aren't about to lose to the Patriots.

They have lost the Pats at home before, and Manning chokes in playoff games v. Belichick. Try to do the math.

 
And the Dolphins, that lowly 2nd place team in the AFC East, got "lucky" or something when they beat the Broncos 34-10?
Please don't hold that game against the Broncos. I don't think any team wearing dark jerseys could have won that game. It was unbearably hot - I was at the game, and it was too hot to drink beer. Absolutely miserable. Dolphins wore white jerseys, Broncos in Dark blue, collecting all of that heat...must have been 120 on the field, w/ high humidity.Man, it was miserable. I will never go to another Dolphin game in September.

 
Right, and these arent your father's Denver Broncos....theyre last year's CLEVELAND BROWNS and theyre not about to beat the World Champs...I dont care where theyre playing. That entire article empahasized one thing.....that the Pats still have Brady and Belichick.....Ill add that they also have Seymour and McGinest and Vrabel and Warren and Green and Wilfork and every other sure tackler that Denver will be over seeing by the end of the 3rd quarter.

 
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The Patriots didn't win those three Super Bowls by coincidence. Sure, they had the best coach, but they also had the best players, many of whom will be watching the playoffs from the sideline.
I stopped reading here.The 2001 Patriots had the best players?

:loco:
Ohhh no, here we go again. Surf, you missed this one :shock:
 
Isn't he a Denver Post columnist (or Rocky Mountain News)?  Just saying...
Yes, he is. And speaking from a perspective of being an Armstrong reader, Armstrong (as is typical of DEN sportswriters, though Jeff Legwold seems to be a cut apart), has a much greater understanding of donuts & beer than he does of anything relating to football.
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz. :wall: And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige. :yucky: Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists? ;)
Don't forget Jay Mariotti
 
The Patriots didn't win those three Super Bowls by coincidence. Sure, they had the best coach, but they also had the best players, many of whom will be watching the playoffs from the sideline.
I stopped reading here.The 2001 Patriots had the best players?

:loco:
Ohhh no, here we go again. Surf, you missed this one :shock:
I'd never argue that the 2001 team had the most talent, although they probably had a little more than they're credited for. 2003 and 2004 is a different story.
 
Isn't he a Denver Post columnist (or Rocky Mountain News)? Just saying...
Yes, he is. And speaking from a perspective of being an Armstrong reader, Armstrong (as is typical of DEN sportswriters, though Jeff Legwold seems to be a cut apart), has a much greater understanding of donuts & beer than he does of anything relating to football.
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz. :wall: And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige. :yucky: Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists? ;)
In defense of Denver, we also produced Adam Schefter. And Legwold and Williamson are two Denver products who I think both have a great head on their shoulders and are probably destined for bigger things. Both actually watch film, and understand the game of football, and ignore the hype. I don't think I've ever seen either castigate a player or coach unfairly, and I've likewise never seen either bestow hollow praise. Just quality reporting.The reason Denver produces so many journalists is because we're one of the very few remaining LEGITIMATE two-newspaper towns (Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News). It's really great for Broncos fans, since the competition breeds a very high quality product, but bad in other ways, since there's a lot of churn in the ranks of the journalists, with a lot of people moving on to bigger and/or better things.

And the Dolphins, that lowly 2nd place team in the AFC East, got "lucky" or something when they beat the Broncos 34-10?
Please don't hold that game against the Broncos. I don't think any team wearing dark jerseys could have won that game. It was unbearably hot - I was at the game, and it was too hot to drink beer. Absolutely miserable. Dolphins wore white jerseys, Broncos in Dark blue, collecting all of that heat...must have been 120 on the field, w/ high humidity.Man, it was miserable. I will never go to another Dolphin game in September.
Agreed. I went with some friends originally from Colorado who just moved down to Florida. There were bags taped to the seats, and a towel inside. My friend was speculating that it must have rained, because his towel was wet, and was going on and on about how that was poor planning and wondering what was up down in Florida. I just smirked and waited for him to figure out that the towels were wet by design.They could have sold those things for $20 and it still would have been worth every penny. I spent the entire game sopping wet with the towel draped over my head.

 
Isn't he a Denver Post columnist (or Rocky Mountain News)? Just saying...
Yes, he is. And speaking from a perspective of being an Armstrong reader, Armstrong (as is typical of DEN sportswriters, though Jeff Legwold seems to be a cut apart), has a much greater understanding of donuts & beer than he does of anything relating to football.
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz. :wall: And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige. :yucky: Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists? ;)
In defense of Denver, we also produced Adam Schefter. And Legwold and Williamson are two Denver products who I think both have a great head on their shoulders and are probably destined for bigger things. Both actually watch film, and understand the game of football, and ignore the hype. I don't think I've ever seen either castigate a player or coach unfairly, and I've likewise never seen either bestow hollow praise. Just quality reporting.The reason Denver produces so many journalists is because we're one of the very few remaining LEGITIMATE two-newspaper towns (Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News). It's really great for Broncos fans, since the competition breeds a very high quality product, but bad in other ways, since there's a lot of churn in the ranks of the journalists, with a lot of people moving on to bigger and/or better things.

And the Dolphins, that lowly 2nd place team in the AFC East, got "lucky" or something when they beat the Broncos 34-10?
Please don't hold that game against the Broncos. I don't think any team wearing dark jerseys could have won that game. It was unbearably hot - I was at the game, and it was too hot to drink beer. Absolutely miserable. Dolphins wore white jerseys, Broncos in Dark blue, collecting all of that heat...must have been 120 on the field, w/ high humidity.Man, it was miserable. I will never go to another Dolphin game in September.
Agreed. I went with some friends originally from Colorado who just moved down to Florida. There were bags taped to the seats, and a towel inside. My friend was speculating that it must have rained, because his towel was wet, and was going on and on about how that was poor planning and wondering what was up down in Florida. I just smirked and waited for him to figure out that the towels were wet by design.They could have sold those things for $20 and it still would have been worth every penny. I spent the entire game sopping wet with the towel draped over my head.
I took that wet towel and tucked it under my hat, over the the back of my neck. By halftime I had to re-soak it. You are right - it was a god-send.
 
I hear it is trendy to root against the Pats :confused:I hate the Patriots, but damn if anyone can say they WONT win.

 
Isn't he a Denver Post columnist (or Rocky Mountain News)?  Just saying...
Yes, he is. And speaking from a perspective of being an Armstrong reader, Armstrong (as is typical of DEN sportswriters, though Jeff Legwold seems to be a cut apart), has a much greater understanding of donuts & beer than he does of anything relating to football.
In Indy - we're stuck with Bob Kravitz. :wall: And the whole nation is stuck with Woody Paige. :yucky: Is Denver a breeding ground for crappy sports columnists? ;)
Don't forget Jay Mariotti
Jay Mariotti is a really good writer, but he is a complete A**. Most negative writer ever. I quit reading him because he contradicted himself every other week.
 
The Pats won't just win, they'll orange crush the Broncos. :boxing:

fixed.

 
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In defense of Denver, we also produced Adam Schefter.Is it me or does he seem to be full of himself when he reports on the NFL Network?I think his reports are good, but he has a smug way of delivering the news, IMO. Plus, and most importantly, I can't stand his last name . Every time he's on, I have to slow down, read and repeat S-h-e-f-t-e-r....instead of Shatner, Sheckner, Shasta, Shaggy.....change your name to Smith for Steve's sake.

 
In defense of Denver, we also produced Adam Schefter.

Is it me or does he seem to be full of himself when he reports on the NFL Network?

I think his reports are good, but he has a smug way of delivering the news, IMO. Plus, and most importantly, I can't stand his last name . Every time he's on, I have to slow down, read and repeat S-h-e-f-t-e-r....instead of Shatner, Sheckner, Shasta, Shaggy.....change your name to Smith for Steve's sake.
I haven't ever watched him on TV. I just know, as a print reporter, he's damn fine. Lots of well-placed sources, good nose for a story, refreshing viewpoints, and not prone to random fits of sensationalism.
 

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