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pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Well, most should have a 3 headed nucleus right now. The 4 to 7 rounds help to make or break you.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
QB Carson Palmer 3.07
RB Reggie Bush 1.07
RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10
WR Terrell Owens 2.10
WR Donte Stallworth 5.07
It's coming together.
RB Reggie Bush 1.07
RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10
WR Terrell Owens 2.10
WR Donte Stallworth 5.07
It's coming together.
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pigskin pimp
Footballguy
renesauz
IBL Representative
Was wondering if Carson was still out there! :(Typed too fast.Umm...Who's CHRIS Palmer?
Family Matters
Footballguy
Wasn't he the Browns coach after the expansion?Umm...Who's CHRIS Palmer?
Family Matters
Footballguy
RB-Portis
RB-James
WR-Burress
Nothing too exciting. Heck I don't even like these guys that much. My DD made me pick'em.
RB-James
WR-Burress
Nothing too exciting. Heck I don't even like these guys that much. My DD made me pick'em.
Getinthemix
Footballguy
QB - Peyton
RB - Brown
RB - AD
I like my start. I am eyeing a couple of guys in 4. Hopefully one of them falls to me.
RB - Brown
RB - AD
I like my start. I am eyeing a couple of guys in 4. Hopefully one of them falls to me.
restless natives
Footballguy
maybe not exciting but very good quality cannt believe the guys that r falling
Family Matters
Footballguy
QB-Bulger
RB-Portis
RB-James
WR-Burress
WR-R. Moss
Nothing too exciting.
Not real exciting but if James, Portis and Moss show up like they have before then this team could be strong. I took a risk on Moss because of the upside. As the 27th WR drafted, his upside was greater than anyone else remaining.
Of the teams that look real good so far, I would put Bloom, Valence & Duckboy up there as teams that look strong with the fewest question marks at this time.
Nice draft so far now that we're moving along.
RB-Portis
RB-James
WR-Burress
WR-R. Moss
Nothing too exciting.
Not real exciting but if James, Portis and Moss show up like they have before then this team could be strong. I took a risk on Moss because of the upside. As the 27th WR drafted, his upside was greater than anyone else remaining.
Of the teams that look real good so far, I would put Bloom, Valence & Duckboy up there as teams that look strong with the fewest question marks at this time.
Nice draft so far now that we're moving along.
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Getinthemix
Footballguy
I was hoping Moss would slip to me at 12. Almost took him over Ahman Green in the 4th.
wannabee
Footballguy
RB: Willis, DeuceWR: SSmith, Santana, GallowayTE: WittenStill no excitement ..... just like married life
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pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Witten was lost with Bledsoe at the beginning of the year, when Romo came to play Witten was money.I am going to take a wild guess at what position you're going for next (but I'll keep it to myself).
Hope the value is still there for ya.
Shadowfax
Footballguy
I've done a lot of these drafts and it seems very difficult to find value at the end of the order. And if some value does present itself, you may not be able to take it because you may have to draft another "need" position. It sucks because if you don't draft for need, then you may find yourself on the very, very short end of a position run. I find myself reaching earlier for players/position I may want, as they rarely make it 30 picks back to me.Witten was lost with Bledsoe at the beginning of the year, when Romo came to play Witten was money.I am going to take a wild guess at what position you're going for next (but I'll keep it to myself).
Hope the value is still there for ya.
Shadowfax
Footballguy
It seems like my steady, boring teams have been more successful in these leagues. I've had a couple exciting teams, where people thought it was top 3 and should be a "favorite" to win....just fizzle out in week 5-7. Remember...while exciting teams that can win immunities are nice...you just don't want to be the lowest each week. Drafting at the ends is hard...I think you have a good team. You'll need to find some QBs and fill out the WR position and hope Moss and Galloway don't lay a goose egg on the same week.
restless natives
Footballguy
u guys do realize that u can comment on ur teams in the pdsl2 team thread correct 
Shadowfax
Footballguy
I like this team a lot so far. Good job. Now I hope you find a way to #### it up.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
QB Carson Palmer 3.07
RB Reggie Bush 1.07
RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10
RB LaMont Jordan 6.10
WR Terrell Owens 2.10
WR Donte Stallworth 5.07
WR Joe Horn 7.07
3 studs mixed with depth and production, youth and vets. TE position will be hurting, but there wasn't any value at the time I could of looked at that slot. Now it's a collection of meh out there.
RB Reggie Bush 1.07
RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10
RB LaMont Jordan 6.10
WR Terrell Owens 2.10
WR Donte Stallworth 5.07
WR Joe Horn 7.07
3 studs mixed with depth and production, youth and vets. TE position will be hurting, but there wasn't any value at the time I could of looked at that slot. Now it's a collection of meh out there.
Blue-Kun
Footballguy
QB: Tom Brady
RB: Westbrook, Chester Taylor, Reuben Droughens
WR: Housh, Isaac Bruce
TE: Alge Crumpler
In a stark contrast to my WE draft, my WR core sucks and my running backs are actually quite solid. Happy about tagging Crumpler though. Now I get to see how well I can do picking scrubs for my entire WR base.
RB: Westbrook, Chester Taylor, Reuben Droughens
WR: Housh, Isaac Bruce
TE: Alge Crumpler
In a stark contrast to my WE draft, my WR core sucks and my running backs are actually quite solid. Happy about tagging Crumpler though. Now I get to see how well I can do picking scrubs for my entire WR base.
Family Matters
Footballguy
QB-Bulger
RB-Portis
RB-James
WR-Burress
WR-R.Moss
WR-Curry
TE-LJ Smith
Again, this team doesn't exactly jump out and scare anyone. But it should be a team that can be very competitive and have a shot to win. I wouldn't rank it as the best but still solid. Taking Curry may seem strange considering Moss but there's a good chance Moss could be traded. Besides, they should both put up good numbers.
RB-Portis
RB-James
WR-Burress
WR-R.Moss
WR-Curry
TE-LJ Smith
Again, this team doesn't exactly jump out and scare anyone. But it should be a team that can be very competitive and have a shot to win. I wouldn't rank it as the best but still solid. Taking Curry may seem strange considering Moss but there's a good chance Moss could be traded. Besides, they should both put up good numbers.
OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
Shadowfax
Footballguy
I've been zigging when I should have been zagging. Got it?
Blue-Kun
Footballguy
Look at his actual team. 6.02. Jon Kitna, CLE, QB11
2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16
7.15 Vernand Morency
4.02. Michael Turner, SD/?, RB26
3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18
5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29
1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1
In rounds 1&2 he grabbed Gates and his Rb#1 which is a fine way to kick things off.
Then 4 billion WR came off the board by the time he got to pick again, unfortunate, but it happens. The downside is nobody dropped to him. Coles is not exactly a guy you want as your headlining WR. He grabs Turner in the 4th, after which only four RB go off the board along with roughly the rest of the top 3 tiers of QB's and another 10 WR. After the Kitna pick in the 6th only four more QB's leave the board until his pick in round 7.
It's not that any of these picks are bad or anything, it's simply that he's gotten no real value* out of any of them and in fact is left with a few question marks at the various positions.
*Except Turner if he gets traded and excels, in which case he could be the SOD
At least that's how I see it. Feel free to correct me if I'm just being random.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
As soon as he took Turner in the 4th, he went "ALL IN". That is the defining pick.If Turner is traded, his team looks like it could survive for a while.Look at his actual team. 6.02. Jon Kitna, CLE, QB11
2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16
7.15 Vernand Morency
4.02. Michael Turner, SD/?, RB26
3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18
5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29
1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1
In rounds 1&2 he grabbed Gates and his Rb#1 which is a fine way to kick things off.
Then 4 billion WR came off the board by the time he got to pick again, unfortunate, but it happens. The downside is nobody dropped to him. Coles is not exactly a guy you want as your headlining WR. He grabs Turner in the 4th, after which only four RB go off the board along with roughly the rest of the top 3 tiers of QB's and another 10 WR. After the Kitna pick in the 6th only four more QB's leave the board until his pick in round 7.
It's not that any of these picks are bad or anything, it's simply that he's gotten no real value* out of any of them and in fact is left with a few question marks at the various positions.
*Except Turner if he gets traded and excels, in which case he could be the SOD
At least that's how I see it. Feel free to correct me if I'm just being random.
If Turner stays in SD, he's toast. And quick. I don't see GB having Morency as their main back. The draft will dicate who will be running the rock in GB. Morency will have value IMO, but more in the mold of a Kevin Faulk.
His stud core of Gates (especially Gates), Henry, and perhaps Kitna looks solid. But you're right. That WR run was hard core and left him scraping the bottom of that run.
It's all about Turner. ALL IN.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
I agree with your thoughts.Solid looking team until you see that Bruce is your #2 in a start 3 WR league.Let's see what kind of magic you can do with that WR corps.QB: Tom BradyRB: Westbrook, Chester Taylor, Reuben DroughensWR: Housh, Isaac BruceTE: Alge CrumplerIn a stark contrast to my WE draft, my WR core sucks and my running backs are actually quite solid. Happy about tagging Crumpler though. Now I get to see how well I can do picking scrubs for my entire WR base.
renesauz
IBL Representative
I got caught by the TE run, and to a lesser extent at RB's. I managed two solid ones early, but haven't had a good chance to add a third at value.
Scheffler is a bit of a gamble, but has more upside IMHO then the few other serviceable TE's left at that slot.
At least I look good at WR!
Scheffler is a bit of a gamble, but has more upside IMHO then the few other serviceable TE's left at that slot.
At least I look good at WR!
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Silly Virginia guy.2 to 4 inches of snow is not really considered a blizzard.Come hang with me in Minnesota, I'll show you some blizzards.Where were you 3 weeks ago when I needed help shoveling the driveway for the 4th time that day.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Scheffler looked a whole lot better in the WSLs before Denver signed Graham.I got caught by the TE run, and to a lesser extent at RB's. I managed two solid ones early, but haven't had a good chance to add a third at value.Scheffler is a bit of a gamble, but has more upside IMHO then the few other serviceable TE's left at that slot.At least I look good at WR!
Shadowfax
Footballguy
summa cum laude answer here.Look at his actual team. 6.02. Jon Kitna, CLE, QB11
2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16
7.15 Vernand Morency
4.02. Michael Turner, SD/?, RB26
3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18
5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29
1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1
In rounds 1&2 he grabbed Gates and his Rb#1 which is a fine way to kick things off.
Then 4 billion WR came off the board by the time he got to pick again, unfortunate, but it happens. The downside is nobody dropped to him. Coles is not exactly a guy you want as your headlining WR. He grabs Turner in the 4th, after which only four RB go off the board along with roughly the rest of the top 3 tiers of QB's and another 10 WR. After the Kitna pick in the 6th only four more QB's leave the board until his pick in round 7.
It's not that any of these picks are bad or anything, it's simply that he's gotten no real value* out of any of them and in fact is left with a few question marks at the various positions.
*Except Turner if he gets traded and excels, in which case he could be the SOD
At least that's how I see it. Feel free to correct me if I'm just being random.
I seriously thought about going TE/WR with my first 2 picks but chickened out. I thought RBs would fall but then if they didn't, do I really want to wait until almost 50 picks went before I get my RB1? So I went with Henry and when all the WRs flew off...I decided to gamble my draft with Turner to see if I could gain an advantage at RB. Like I said when I made it....make or break pick.
Then everyone went QB/WR again and then I threw all logic out the window and I've gone with high risk high reward guys. If things break my way (and there are a lot of "things"), I can be ok but that's asking quite a lot.
I don't remember where I posted it, but earlier I said I've found it very hard to find value at the ends of drafts. And if value does present itself, you may not be able to take it in order to fill need at other positions before 30 picks wipe out that position.
But there's hope. I hated my team in MBSL3 (cumulative survivor league) last year and didn't think it would go far....and I ended up in 3rd place at the end.
Shadowfax
Footballguy
ALL IN exactly...which is really unlike me as I usually play these things pretty conservatively. But I felt I needed to gamble a bit this time. I really struggled with my 4th round pick as I knew that round would define the rest of my draft.As soon as he took Turner in the 4th, he went "ALL IN". That is the defining pick.If Turner is traded, his team looks like it could survive for a while.Look at his actual team. 6.02. Jon Kitna, CLE, QB11
2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16
7.15 Vernand Morency
4.02. Michael Turner, SD/?, RB26
3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18
5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29
1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1
In rounds 1&2 he grabbed Gates and his Rb#1 which is a fine way to kick things off.
Then 4 billion WR came off the board by the time he got to pick again, unfortunate, but it happens. The downside is nobody dropped to him. Coles is not exactly a guy you want as your headlining WR. He grabs Turner in the 4th, after which only four RB go off the board along with roughly the rest of the top 3 tiers of QB's and another 10 WR. After the Kitna pick in the 6th only four more QB's leave the board until his pick in round 7.
It's not that any of these picks are bad or anything, it's simply that he's gotten no real value* out of any of them and in fact is left with a few question marks at the various positions.
*Except Turner if he gets traded and excels, in which case he could be the SOD
At least that's how I see it. Feel free to correct me if I'm just being random.
If Turner stays in SD, he's toast. And quick. I don't see GB having Morency as their main back. The draft will dicate who will be running the rock in GB. Morency will have value IMO, but more in the mold of a Kevin Faulk.
His stud core of Gates (especially Gates), Henry, and perhaps Kitna looks solid. But you're right. That WR run was hard core and left him scraping the bottom of that run.
It's all about Turner. ALL IN.
I thought about playing it safer with Deangelo or Ahman instead of Turner but didn't feel they were any better than RBs I could get 2 rounds later. Thought about DJax or McNabb but decided to try something different.
Hindsight would be something like this:
Gates
Owens
Green
DWill
Cotchery
Lynch
Rivers
Cutler
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
If I were a betting man, and I am, I would bet that we will see Turner in a different jersy come May.You still have some tweaking to do. Good luck.
renesauz
IBL Representative
Silly Virginia guy.2 to 4 inches of snow is not really considered a blizzard.Come hang with me in Minnesota, I'll show you some blizzards.Where were you 3 weeks ago when I needed help shoveling the driveway for the 4th time that day.No significant snow here in 4 years, and today, APRIL FREAKING 7TH, I wake up to a damn BLIZZARD!
I went to college at Penn State, and was stationed in upstate New York for 4+ years. The term "Blizzard" is relative. 2 inches will shut this place down for three days. Two feet shuts you down for what...4 hours?BTW:You can keep the feet...there's a reason I moved back here to settle down! 
PS: It warmed up a few degrees, never stuck to the roads, and was gone by 1 PM...but it was a shock to wipe two inches off my car in the AM. 
Family Matters
Footballguy
I know what you mean. After growing up in Ohio I moved to Northern, VA (DC area) for 10 years and thought I was escaping the nasty smow. But nooooo. As soon as I get there it snows like crazy. Meanwhile it was dry as could be back hom. Of course I move back and it changed back.I went to college at Penn State, and was stationed in upstate New York for 4+ years. The term "Blizzard" is relative. 2 inches will shut this place down for three days. Two feet shuts you down for what...4 hours?BTW:You can keep the feet...there's a reason I moved back here to settle down!
Blue-Kun
Footballguy
Damn the more I look at this team, the more I wanted something closer to it. The TE position is pretty barren at this point, no doubt about that. However the rest of your team is solid. Williams wasn't exactly the most explosive or talented guy last season, but I think we all expect him to put up at least decent numbers with the O-line being repaired and the increase in touches. Plus you offset most of his risk by grabbing Jordan in the 6th. Surprised now that Dallas has picked T.O. over Parcells that he isn't the 2nd or 3rd WR taken just on general principle. The other WR's aren't flashy, but they certainly fill up the #2 and #3 slots just fine for where they were taken. Overall a really nice looking team.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
QB Carson Palmer 3.07
RB Reggie Bush 1.07
RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10
RB LaMont Jordan 6.10
WR Terrell Owens 2.10
WR Donte Stallworth 5.07
WR Joe Horn 7.07
WR Keyshawn Johnson 8.10
DEF Baltimore Ravens 9.06
Had to alter my draft strategy after I decided to go WR4 instead of a backup starting QB in round 8. Figured one of my targets would drop to me on the turn, but didn't. So at that point, the QBs left looked like WW fodder, and I decided to take the census #2 DEF to make my stronger. Still have the same issues as I did before the last two rounds, but most teams should have at least one if not two glaring holes in their lineup.
RB Reggie Bush 1.07
RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10
RB LaMont Jordan 6.10
WR Terrell Owens 2.10
WR Donte Stallworth 5.07
WR Joe Horn 7.07
WR Keyshawn Johnson 8.10
DEF Baltimore Ravens 9.06
Had to alter my draft strategy after I decided to go WR4 instead of a backup starting QB in round 8. Figured one of my targets would drop to me on the turn, but didn't. So at that point, the QBs left looked like WW fodder, and I decided to take the census #2 DEF to make my stronger. Still have the same issues as I did before the last two rounds, but most teams should have at least one if not two glaring holes in their lineup.
OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
:bump:
Draft thread getting polluted.
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Draft thread getting polluted.
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OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
who is Visanthe Shiancoe?
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Vikings paid big money to get Shockey's backup, let Wiggins go, Sasser is a blocker, VS is the unquestioned #1 tight end in a questionable passing game.
Family Matters
Footballguy
QB-Bulger, Losman
RB-Portis, James, Williams
WR_Moss, Buress, Curry
TE-LJ Smih, Des. Clark
QB and TE are solid. The Smith Clark combo should allow for realiable scoring from the TE spot. RB is intriguing and while likely nothing specail I should get consistent scoring from this group.
WR-is interesting and Moss future will dictate how effective this group is. If Moss is traded then I like it better. But either way he's got to decide he wants to play.
What's interesting to me is that several of these guys have had great years fantasy wise in the past:
Bulger was #3 in 2006.
Portis was #4 in 2002, #5 in 2003 and #6 in 2005.
James was #1 in 1999, #2 in 2000, #6 in 2004 and #5 in 2005.
Moss was #1 in 1998/2000/2003, #2 in 1999, #5 in 2001/2002.
Burress was #8 in 2002.
When you think about what these guys have done in the past you wonder if any of them still have what it takes? This could be an explosive team.
RB-Portis, James, Williams
WR_Moss, Buress, Curry
TE-LJ Smih, Des. Clark
QB and TE are solid. The Smith Clark combo should allow for realiable scoring from the TE spot. RB is intriguing and while likely nothing specail I should get consistent scoring from this group.
WR-is interesting and Moss future will dictate how effective this group is. If Moss is traded then I like it better. But either way he's got to decide he wants to play.
What's interesting to me is that several of these guys have had great years fantasy wise in the past:
Bulger was #3 in 2006.
Portis was #4 in 2002, #5 in 2003 and #6 in 2005.
James was #1 in 1999, #2 in 2000, #6 in 2004 and #5 in 2005.
Moss was #1 in 1998/2000/2003, #2 in 1999, #5 in 2001/2002.
Burress was #8 in 2002.
When you think about what these guys have done in the past you wonder if any of them still have what it takes? This could be an explosive team.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Adding Balt made it even better. Nice team!Damn the more I look at this team, the more I wanted something closer to it. The TE position is pretty barren at this point, no doubt about that. However the rest of your team is solid. Williams wasn't exactly the most explosive or talented guy last season, but I think we all expect him to put up at least decent numbers with the O-line being repaired and the increase in touches. Plus you offset most of his risk by grabbing Jordan in the 6th. Surprised now that Dallas has picked T.O. over Parcells that he isn't the 2nd or 3rd WR taken just on general principle. The other WR's aren't flashy, but they certainly fill up the #2 and #3 slots just fine for where they were taken. Overall a really nice looking team.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Safe and solid looking team until you look at WR #2 and #3, that's when safe exited stage left. If Moss is traded to someone like GB, you have a monster team.
