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QB Carson Palmer 3.07 RB Reggie Bush 1.07RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10RB LaMont Jordan 6.10WR Terrell Owens 2.10WR Donte Stallworth 5.07WR Joe Horn 7.073 studs mixed with depth and production, youth and vets. TE position will be hurting, but there wasn't any value at the time I could of looked at that slot. Now it's a collection of meh out there.
Damn the more I look at this team, the more I wanted something closer to it. The TE position is pretty barren at this point, no doubt about that. However the rest of your team is solid. Williams wasn't exactly the most explosive or talented guy last season, but I think we all expect him to put up at least decent numbers with the O-line being repaired and the increase in touches. Plus you offset most of his risk by grabbing Jordan in the 6th. Surprised now that Dallas has picked T.O. over Parcells that he isn't the 2nd or 3rd WR taken just on general principle. The other WR's aren't flashy, but they certainly fill up the #2 and #3 slots just fine for where they were taken. Overall a really nice looking team. :thumbup:
Adding Balt made it even better. Nice team!
Definately is a good team...should be several of these with how loose this draft was.
 
Definately is a good team...should be several of these with how loose this draft was.
You've got a team who finally picked up a 3rd WR in your draft and your talking s### over here? Priceless. But while you spend time here, quick question, Lamont Jordan in the 4th?
 
As for myself:

Arnaz Battle and Derrick Mason are nice low-risk guys that should give me WR3 stats at least. Between these guys and Bruce, it's reasonable that one at least puts up WR#2 numbers for me.

 
Definately is a good team...should be several of these with how loose this draft was.
You've got a team who finally picked up a 3rd WR in your draft and your talking s### over here? Priceless. But while you spend time here, quick question, Lamont Jordan in the 4th?
Regarding Jordan specifically, he'll return to being a ppr monster. Last year he was a consensus top 10 pick in these leagues who I had rated around RB20 due solely to Shell. With Shell gone, you'll see him return closer to 05 level than 06. Go look at who was left at the 6/7 and tell me who you like better.Starting RBs don't hang around until the mid fifth in these drafts unless there's some serious reachage going on at QB and TE. What's interesting about this draft is the reachage came and went in spurts leaving value all over the board. It's like runs got started, but never really finished. I haven't gone over the teams in detail, but I suspect some stud WR/TE teams will end up looking the strongest.
 
Definately is a good team...should be several of these with how loose this draft was.
You've got a team who finally picked up a 3rd WR in your draft and your talking s### over here? Priceless. But while you spend time here, quick question, Lamont Jordan in the 4th?
I really liked him at 6.10.
I'm sure you did. Xmas in April. Pretty much got Palmer with no consequences. The field will pay for this.
 
Definately is a good team...should be several of these with how loose this draft was.
You've got a team who finally picked up a 3rd WR in your draft and your talking s### over here? Priceless. But while you spend time here, quick question, Lamont Jordan in the 4th?
Regarding Jordan specifically, he'll return to being a ppr monster. Last year he was a consensus top 10 pick in these leagues who I had rated around RB20 due solely to Shell. With Shell gone, you'll see him return closer to 05 level than 06. Go look at who was left at the 6/7 and tell me who you like better.Starting RBs don't hang around until the mid fifth in these drafts unless there's some serious reachage going on at QB and TE. What's interesting about this draft is the reachage came and went in spurts leaving value all over the board. It's like runs got started, but never really finished. I haven't gone over the teams in detail, but I suspect some stud WR/TE teams will end up looking the strongest.
Those runs were huge. Usually you'll see some breaks in there. I was lucky enough to be at the start of most of those runs and hit on some value. At least until the QB2 run went off.
 
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Taking WR in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds left me behind the eight ball on the QB/TE runs..but WR seems to be the most important position in these things, and I'm looking pretty stacked there :popcorn:

6.09. Tony Romo, DAL, QB12...could be a steal with all that recieving talent...ecstatic to get him where I did.

9.08. Chad Pennington, NYJ, QB25... bye week filler..I need Romo to be solid.

1.08. Joseph Addai, IND, RB8...primary RB on a good offense...should live up to draft slot

2.09. Cedric Benson, CHI, RB19...SAME AS ABOVE...should outplay RB19

8.09. LenDale White, TEN, RB41...could become the #1, but will certainly see plenty of touches, love him with PPR

3.08. Hines Ward, PIT, WR16...solid, if unspectaular #1

4.09. Reggie Brown, PHI, WR21...I believe will perform as a #1, certainly a high #2, a steal as 21st WR

5.08. Terry Glenn, DAL, WR25...could perform as well as a #2, a GREAT #3

10.09 Ashley Lelie, SF, WR54...more likely to outperform this draft position then underperform it. AT worst, will have a few big games.

7.08. Tony Scheffler, DEN, TE12...probably a waste, but has enough upside to justify the pick

Overall...a solid start. Will probably need to pull a good sleeper TE out of my ### to win.

 
Taking WR in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds left me behind the eight ball on the QB/TE runs..but WR seems to be the most important position in these things, and I'm looking pretty stacked there :popcorn: 6.09. Tony Romo, DAL, QB12...could be a steal with all that recieving talent...ecstatic to get him where I did.9.08. Chad Pennington, NYJ, QB25... bye week filler..I need Romo to be solid.1.08. Joseph Addai, IND, RB8...primary RB on a good offense...should live up to draft slot2.09. Cedric Benson, CHI, RB19...SAME AS ABOVE...should outplay RB198.09. LenDale White, TEN, RB41...could become the #1, but will certainly see plenty of touches, love him with PPR3.08. Hines Ward, PIT, WR16...solid, if unspectaular #14.09. Reggie Brown, PHI, WR21...I believe will perform as a #1, certainly a high #2, a steal as 21st WR5.08. Terry Glenn, DAL, WR25...could perform as well as a #2, a GREAT #310.09 Ashley Lelie, SF, WR54...more likely to outperform this draft position then underperform it. AT worst, will have a few big games.7.08. Tony Scheffler, DEN, TE12...probably a waste, but has enough upside to justify the pickOverall...a solid start. Will probably need to pull a good sleeper TE out of my ### to win.
I like your team. But your right, 7.08 for Scheffler cost you value. Scheffler was a sleeper until they signed Graham. I've always been hip on trying to get the next big star in these things (hence my Bush at #7), so I really dig your RB tandem. Both your backs lost their caddy and will be featured.If Romo progresses and your backs stay healthy, you may be the team to beat, but you still have some tweaking to do. (and I already know you were poised to take Des. Clark last round :wink:).
 
Taking WR in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds left me behind the eight ball on the QB/TE runs..but WR seems to be the most important position in these things, and I'm looking pretty stacked there :popcorn: 3.08. Hines Ward, PIT, WR16...solid, if unspectaular #14.09. Reggie Brown, PHI, WR21...I believe will perform as a #1, certainly a high #2, a steal as 21st WR5.08. Terry Glenn, DAL, WR25...could perform as well as a #2, a GREAT #3
There's no way this should have occurred in a ppr 16 team league, when you have two RB1s on your roster.
 
Taking WR in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds left me behind the eight ball on the QB/TE runs..but WR seems to be the most important position in these things, and I'm looking pretty stacked there :wall: 3.08. Hines Ward, PIT, WR16...solid, if unspectaular #14.09. Reggie Brown, PHI, WR21...I believe will perform as a #1, certainly a high #2, a steal as 21st WR5.08. Terry Glenn, DAL, WR25...could perform as well as a #2, a GREAT #3
There's no way this should have occurred in a ppr 16 team league, when you have two RB1s on your roster.
Yeah, he kicked ### in value and you didn't even list his 6th round starting QB. After that... :wall:
 
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Taking WR in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds left me behind the eight ball on the QB/TE runs..but WR seems to be the most important position in these things, and I'm looking pretty stacked there :wall: 3.08. Hines Ward, PIT, WR16...solid, if unspectaular #14.09. Reggie Brown, PHI, WR21...I believe will perform as a #1, certainly a high #2, a steal as 21st WR5.08. Terry Glenn, DAL, WR25...could perform as well as a #2, a GREAT #3
There's no way this should have occurred in a ppr 16 team league, when you have two RB1s on your roster.
Yeah, he kicked ### in value and you didn't even list his 6th round starting QB. After that... :wall:
...just saying... nabbing romo at Qb pulls this team together...as he could have easily been looking at a Leftwich ran team...
 
Sigmund Bloom

5.06. Matt Leinart, ARI, QB9

8.11. Alex Smith, SF, QB21

Was hoping that VY would fall to 5.06, but I'll settle for Leinart. They're sure to get some shootouts with that defense. Smith represented value at 8.11 as one of the last guaranteed to start while healthy QBs, and he's also poised to take a step forward in his development (as is Leinart).

1.06. Shaun Alexander, SEA, RB6

6.11. Ladell Betts, WAS, RB35

10.11 Lorenzo Booker, ???, RB48

I could not pass on Alexander, the guy is still one of the true workhorse backs. I like to go RB2BC in these

deep survivor leagues, so I passed on RBs in the 2nd-5th. I like Betts as a guy who can both contribute 6 to 7 pts a week even if Portis stays healthy as a baseline with his receiving ability (53 catches last year) and

short yardage running. He'll also get more touches than a typical #2. And we all know what Betts can do if Portis gets hurt. Booker is a Bloom favorite, especially in a PPR. I also like his home run ability.

2.11. Reggie Wayne, IND, WR6

3.06. Marques Colston, NO, WR15

7.06. Santonio Holmes, PIT, WR40

9.06. Brandon Jones, TEN, WR50

Wayne vs. Harrison was agonizing, in the end I decided to avoid the possibility that this is the year that it all catches up with Harrison. Colston should give me another WR1. Holmes fell into my lap, he should produce at a WR3 level and he can break long plays. Jones is the only WR on the Titans roster that has a lot of experience with VY - they hooked up for 3 TDs in the last 6 weeks.

4.11. Jeremy Shockey, NYG, TE5

Was hoping for Heap, but I'll take Shockey. TE is harsh in this 16 team 2 PPR leagues and you don't want to be left out in the cold.

 
Sigmund Bloom5.06. Matt Leinart, ARI, QB98.11. Alex Smith, SF, QB21Was hoping that VY would fall to 5.06, but I'll settle for Leinart. They're sure to get some shootouts with that defense. Smith represented value at 8.11 as one of the last guaranteed to start while healthy QBs, and he's also poised to take a step forward in his development (as is Leinart). 1.06. Shaun Alexander, SEA, RB66.11. Ladell Betts, WAS, RB3510.11 Lorenzo Booker, ???, RB48I could not pass on Alexander, the guy is still one of the true workhorse backs. I like to go RB2BC in thesedeep survivor leagues, so I passed on RBs in the 2nd-5th. I like Betts as a guy who can both contribute 6 to 7 pts a week even if Portis stays healthy as a baseline with his receiving ability (53 catches last year) andshort yardage running. He'll also get more touches than a typical #2. And we all know what Betts can do if Portis gets hurt. Booker is a Bloom favorite, especially in a PPR. I also like his home run ability.2.11. Reggie Wayne, IND, WR63.06. Marques Colston, NO, WR157.06. Santonio Holmes, PIT, WR409.06. Brandon Jones, TEN, WR50Wayne vs. Harrison was agonizing, in the end I decided to avoid the possibility that this is the year that it all catches up with Harrison. Colston should give me another WR1. Holmes fell into my lap, he should produce at a WR3 level and he can break long plays. Jones is the only WR on the Titans roster that has a lot of experience with VY - they hooked up for 3 TDs in the last 6 weeks.4.11. Jeremy Shockey, NYG, TE5Was hoping for Heap, but I'll take Shockey. TE is harsh in this 16 team 2 PPR leagues and you don't want to be left out in the cold.
I don't mean to come off as an ###, but when I saw I was drafting with a football guru like Bloom, I was intimidated. That said...I'll critque...good and bad...QBs: I like them. You said you wanted VY, and I can understand why with his rushing totals adding to his mediocre passing. But Matt and Alex are/were the 2 most highly regarded QBs coming out of college in 05. Both have ideal situations. Bad teams airing it out. Matt has Fitz and Boldin, while Alex seams like he has a grasp on the NFL QB reads now. ASmith was a huge pickup, and I'm still kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on him, instead of a WR4.RB: This is where you blew it. Now, SAlex is SAlex and, barring injury, he will be a stud. But then you're gambling. Betts as your #2 Rb? Betts is mini-Bensen if Portis is rolling all year. I can understand that gamble, as Portis isn't an iron man, but didn't you add security in a viable #3 RB? Booker is not that. If he gets you points, it's only because GB or Buf drafted him or the #1 workhorse went down. Too much gamble IMO.WR: Solid. I like Wayne over Harrison, it reminds me of Carter and Moss. You know one of these days Marvin's body won't let him do what Reggie can do. Colston is money. If he comes close to '06 stats, money. Horn is gone, Devey and Cooper are raw, no reason to think that Colston doesn't hit those #s again. You backed them up with a couple of guys who could break out. SHolmes looked good, and BJones may be the #1 in Ten. Phenominal WRs.TE: You got Shockey. Barring injury, this guy can play. He's a lot like the market, hot one week, cold the next. Hopefully, he's hot w/2 scores on the week you need him.Conclusion: Your RB's will be your downfall, your WRs are probably better than any in the league, you're QB tandem looks awesome, but you'll have to figure out WDIS on your own.
 
RB: This is where you blew it. Now, SAlex is SAlex and, barring injury, he will be a stud. But then you're gambling. Betts as your #2 Rb? Betts is mini-Bensen if Portis is rolling all year. I can understand that gamble, as Portis isn't an iron man, but didn't you add security in a viable #3 RB? Booker is not that. If he gets you points, it's only because GB or Buf drafted him or the #1 workhorse went down. Too much gamble IMO.
I appreciate that you give me so much credit, but I am really overrated. You'll see.As far as "blowing it" by not taking an RB2 earlier, I just disagree. RBs did not present as good value as Wayne, Colston, or Shockey:at the Wayne pick, the next RBs taken were Chester Taylor and Thomas Jones - no thanksat the Colston pick, the next RBs taken were Caddy, AD, Jacobs, and Deuce. I suppose that I could have taken AD if I really had brass ones, but Colston is a #1 in a top passing offense. I could not pass up having a WR1 as my WR2at the Shockey pick, the next RBs taken were Jamal Lewis and Julius Jones - again no thanksat the Leinart pick, I was all ready to take Lynch. Really. I changed my mind, expecting a QB run in between 5.06 and 6.11, and little did I know that only 1 QB would be taken. So I just missed out on Lynch at my next pick, and instead took Betts.Im not really sure what I should have done differently to avoid "blowing it".Last year in the expert survivor league, my top 2 RBs were Jamal Lewis and Fred Taylor - I went Manning Gates in the first 2 rounds. Now there was no PPR for RBs in that league, but otherwise it was very similar, and BnB and I squared off for the title.I really think carrying over the stud RB theory to survivor is a mistake. The self-selecting nature of the scoring means you can get away with cobbling together a committee of role playing backs. I also think you are severely underrating Betts for this year in this format. Betts provides a foundation of 3-4 catches a game, and you know he'll get at least 7-10 carries a game this year now that the Skins have seen what he can do. I'm not sure that DeAngelo Williams numbers are really going to look all that different than Betts when the season is over. I think people are overinvesting in RBs that have a piece of a situation and have not adjusted to the new reality of the "2 back" league. I would rather invest in WRs/TEs that have much more stable week to week roles, and cobble together a committee of role playing backs who will trade off and hopefully cover each others big weeks, than spend good picks on RBs that will get 10 touches one week, and 20 the next, and not really provide production consistent enough to justify the pick.I think you are also underestimating Booker. He's a rare RB that is comfortable lining up as a slot receiver, and I guarantee you that the team that drafts him will find a way to get the ball in his hands 7-10 times a week because of his game breaking ability. He's perfect for survivor because there will be a few long TD broken here and there and good reception numbers. I would look for him to play a similar role to Norwood did last year with not quite as gaudy a YPC, but more catches.Thanks for again for the feedback.
 
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I loved how my draft started but working and via PMs(thanks wannabe) it's pretty rough now. If I'd been around I'd surely have grabbed several players that fell and have been kicking myself everyday when I return from work. Well kudos to the guys that caught them. Little value in the next few rounds and I'll be cool. It's all for fun anyhow so...so what.

 
I loved how my draft started but working and via PMs(thanks wannabe) it's pretty rough now. If I'd been around I'd surely have grabbed several players that fell and have been kicking myself everyday when I return from work. Well kudos to the guys that caught them. Little value in the next few rounds and I'll be cool. It's all for fun anyhow so...so what.
re-reading that...just to clarify wannabe's been a gem I'm grrr at my own choices not him at all, he's been great and so helpful
 
Hey Nloom, FWIW, I agree with Pimp. You blew it on RB2. Why'd you have to go and take my insurance policy? Now you'll have to pay the premiums.

But I do think you have a nice team. Betts isn't a bad choice as he will get some PT even if Portis is healthy, and that's not exactly a lock.

 
Hey Nloom, FWIW, I agree with Pimp. You blew it on RB2. Why'd you have to go and take my insurance policy? Now you'll have to pay the premiums.But I do think you have a nice team. Betts isn't a bad choice as he will get some PT even if Portis is healthy, and that's not exactly a lock.
What pick should I have changed - in hindsight, it seems like Lynch over Leinart...
 
Hey Nloom, FWIW, I agree with Pimp. You blew it on RB2. Why'd you have to go and take my insurance policy? Now you'll have to pay the premiums.But I do think you have a nice team. Betts isn't a bad choice as he will get some PT even if Portis is healthy, and that's not exactly a lock.
What pick should I have changed - in hindsight, it seems like Lynch over Leinart...
Good thought. I wouldn't be surprised if Betts out produces Lynch. Obviously it'll depend on where he gets drafted. If he goes to say Buff then he should have a nice season. If lands in a RBBC then Betts may do as well. As for QB, if I had known there would have been the QB's still on board in the 7th round I know I would've waited. I've been burned on waiting for QB's before so I got trigger happy.I took Bulger 4.7. I could have taken Romo in the 7th. Then I could of taken Heap or D. Jax.
 
RB: This is where you blew it. Now, SAlex is SAlex and, barring injury, he will be a stud. But then you're gambling. Betts as your #2 Rb? Betts is mini-Bensen if Portis is rolling all year. I can understand that gamble, as Portis isn't an iron man, but didn't you add security in a viable #3 RB? Booker is not that. If he gets you points, it's only because GB or Buf drafted him or the #1 workhorse went down. Too much gamble IMO.
I appreciate that you give me so much credit, but I am really overrated. You'll see.As far as "blowing it" by not taking an RB2 earlier, I just disagree. RBs did not present as good value as Wayne, Colston, or Shockey:

Im not really sure what I should have done differently to avoid "blowing it".

I really think carrying over the stud RB theory to survivor is a mistake. The self-selecting nature of the scoring means you can get away with cobbling together a committee of role playing backs.
;) Having WR's that can break out big games seems the key. Two or three mediocre QB's in a best ball format will often be within shouting range of the stud QB. Get 3-4 of the lesser halves of the supposed RBBC's will very often be close to the average RB1 in best ball. But it's a bit harder to get THREE recievers to carry you...you really need a couple you can absolutely, positively count on.
 
Wraith5

5.01. Vince Young, TEN, QB9

8.16. Rex Grossman, CHI, QB23

I think Vince is going to be a top 2nd tier QB this year. I'm not happy that I had to take him in the 5th, but I didn't think there would be much left when the draft came back to me (as it turns out, Farve would have been there, which wouldn't have been bad) Rexxxy is hit or miss - chances are he'll continue to be boom or bust each week, which with this format is OK (as a Bears fan, it's a different story...)

1.01. LaDainian Tomlinson, SD, RB1

4.16. Jamal Lewis, CLE, RB29

7.01. Jerious Norwood, ATL, RB37

9.01. Tatum Bell, DET, RB44

LaDainian should obviously be my top scorer every week. That means Lewis, Norwood, and Bell all contribute to my RB2 spot 85% of the time. Among those three I should have very solid points, week-in / week-out. Bell was the X factor in my draft; my 4th RB in the 9th, when we only start 2. I personally see Bell being a strong contributor early in the season, which is why I just couldn't pass on him.

2.16. Donald Driver, GB, WR9

3.01. Roy Williams, DET, WR10

10.16 Antonio Bryant, UFA, WR58

11.01 Wes Welker, NE, WR59

This is the downside to my Bell pick in the 9th. Any week where one of my top two don't score well, it's gonna hurt. I would have liked to have at least a Mason / Kennison / Bennett type here, but the draft just didn't open up for me that way. Hopefully I can get a couple of hit/miss guys who can contribute now & again behind Bryant - please don't let him end up like Peerless Price - and Wes (NE, not MIA) Welker.

6.16. Ben Watson, NE, TE11

Meh.

So far not bad, but not jumping up & down yet overall.

 
7.05. Brett Favre, GB, QB13

9.05. Jason Campbell, WAS, QB24

Same two QB as my WE team. Favre is money under this format (6 pt TD, no TOs), and Campbell has some decent upside.

1.05. Frank Gore, SF, RB5

6.12. Warrick Dunn, ATL, RB36

8.12. Dominic Rhodes, OAK, RB42

Gore should be solid as the best weapon in SF. RB2 will be weak spot, though if Dunn stays as the lead dog, this could work alright. Rhodes will get weekly pts as imo at least the 3rd down and change of pace back.

2.12. Marvin Harrison, IND, WR7

3.05. Javon Walker, DEN, WR14

4.12. Darrell Jackson, SEA, WR22

10.12 Marty Booker, MIA, WR57

Top 3 are in my opinion the best set in the league - all decently strong candidates for Top 10 seasons. Will help to carry the team. Booker is bye week coverage or off week insurance.

5.05. Chris Cooley, WAS, TE7

Really came on at year's end with Campbell at QB. The old KC system will help as well, though he won't get Gonzo numbers.

Overall, satisfied so far. RB2 may be an issue, but there are no teams that have no holes. Mine are, at least for now, manageable. Hopefully bye weeks won't impact too much.

 
Wraith5

5.01. Vince Young, TEN, QB9

8.16. Rex Grossman, CHI, QB23

I think Vince is going to be a top 2nd tier QB this year. I'm not happy that I had to take him in the 5th, but I didn't think there would be much left when the draft came back to me (as it turns out, Farve would have been there, which wouldn't have been bad) Rexxxy is hit or miss - chances are he'll continue to be boom or bust each week, which with this format is OK (as a Bears fan, it's a different story...)
OUCH!!! Vince in the second tier? With whom? Just curious.
 
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Hey Nloom, FWIW, I agree with Pimp. You blew it on RB2. Why'd you have to go and take my insurance policy? Now you'll have to pay the premiums.But I do think you have a nice team. Betts isn't a bad choice as he will get some PT even if Portis is healthy, and that's not exactly a lock.
What pick should I have changed - in hindsight, it seems like Lynch over Leinart...
If Lynch ends up in GB, BUF, or TEN...you're probably right......you still would have had production from the QB slot with ASmith.
 
Wraith5

5.01. Vince Young, TEN, QB9

8.16. Rex Grossman, CHI, QB23

I think Vince is going to be a top 2nd tier QB this year. I'm not happy that I had to take him in the 5th, but I didn't think there would be much left when the draft came back to me (as it turns out, Farve would have been there, which wouldn't have been bad) Rexxxy is hit or miss - chances are he'll continue to be boom or bust each week, which with this format is OK (as a Bears fan, it's a different story...)
OUCH!!! Vince in the second tier? With whom? Just curious.
Tier 1: Manning

Palmer

Brees

McNabb

Tier 2:

Bulger

Brady

Young

Vick

Tier 3:

Favre

Hasselbeck

Kitna

Romo

-ish... I didn't really put the QB's into tiers for this draft. But this is about where I rank these guys. If you look at the last 1/2 of 2006, Young was at the same level as Palmer.

 
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4.13. Tom Brady, NE, QB5, BYE 10

11.04 Jeff Garcia, TB, QB 29, BYE10

1.04. Brian Westbrook, PHI, RB4, BYE 5

2.13. Chester Taylor, MIN, RB20, BYE 5

7.04. Reuben Droughns, NYG, RB38, BYE 9

3.04. TJ Houshmandzadeh, CIN, WR13, BYE 5

6.13. Isaac Bruce, STL, WR35, BYE 9

8.13. Arnaz Battle, SF, WR48, BYE 6

9.04. Derrick Mason, BAL, WR49, BYE 8

10.13 Reche Caldwell, NE, WR58, BYE 10

5.04. Alge Crumpler, ATL, TE6, BYE 8

My first 3 picks are on bye in week 5. Awesome. :thumbup: Droughns better prove me right about him not sucking out of Cleveland or else... :shock:

And if I somehow make it to week 10, I get to enjoy having no QB, unless I draft some of the Tier 9999999 guys left. It's funny, because up till now I was actually pretty happy with how the team was ending up.

 
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Shadowfax

8.02. Jay Cutler, DEN, QB17, BYE 6

6.02. Jon Kitna, DET, QB11, BYE 6

2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16, BYE 6

4.02. Michael Turner, SD, RB26, BYE 7

7.15. Vernand Morency, GB, RB39, BYE 7

9.15. Mike Bell, DEN, RB47, BYE 6

3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18, BYE 10

5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29, BYE 6

10.02 DJ Hackett, SEA, WR53, BYE 8

1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1, BYE 7

I didn't like my team before the byes. Now I have both QB, my top RB and WR2 (Cutler, Kitna, Henry/Bell and Furrey) all on the same bye.

:lmao:

:bye: :bye:

 
Shadowfax

8.02. Jay Cutler, DEN, QB17, BYE 6

6.02. Jon Kitna, DET, QB11, BYE 6

2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16, BYE 6

4.02. Michael Turner, SD, RB26, BYE 7

7.15. Vernand Morency, GB, RB39, BYE 7

9.15. Mike Bell, DEN, RB47, BYE 6

3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18, BYE 10

5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29, BYE 6

10.02 DJ Hackett, SEA, WR53, BYE 8

1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1, BYE 7

I didn't like my team before the byes. Now I have both QB, my top RB and WR2 (Cutler, Kitna, Henry/Bell and Furrey) all on the same bye.

:excited:

:ph34r: :shrug:
Wow. That's... wow. Just brutal. :)
 
valence

4.06. Donovan McNabb, PHI, QB4, BYE 5

9.11. Byron Leftwich, JAC, QB26, BYE 4

happy with this

1.11. Rudi Johnson, CIN, RB11, BYE 5

6.06. Fred Taylor, JAC, RB32, BYE 4

8.06. Deshaun Foster, CAR, RB40, BYE 7

11.11 Chris Perry, CIN, RB 52, BYE 5

happy with this

2.06. Larry Fitzgerald, ARI, WR3, BYE 8

5.11. Deion Branch, SEA, WR28, BYE 8

7.11. Muhsin Muhammad, CHI, WR44, BYE 9

Probably should have grabbed a 4th somewhere earlier but I don't see where I could have. Top 2 off in week 8 is going to be pretty sucky.

3.11. Tony Gonzalez, KC, TE2, BYE 8

value pick of the draft imo

10.06 San Diego, DEF, BYE 7

Ron Rivera + Merriman. I'll take it.

Drafting behind FM hasn't been much fun. Got my guy snatched in front of me in rounds 5 9 and 11.

 
valence

4.06. Donovan McNabb, PHI, QB4, BYE 5

9.11. Byron Leftwich, JAC, QB26, BYE 4

happy with this

1.11. Rudi Johnson, CIN, RB11, BYE 5

6.06. Fred Taylor, JAC, RB32, BYE 4

8.06. Deshaun Foster, CAR, RB40, BYE 7

11.11 Chris Perry, CIN, RB 52, BYE 5

happy with this

2.06. Larry Fitzgerald, ARI, WR3, BYE 8

5.11. Deion Branch, SEA, WR28, BYE 8

7.11. Muhsin Muhammad, CHI, WR44, BYE 9

Probably should have grabbed a 4th somewhere earlier but I don't see where I could have. Top 2 off in week 8 is going to be pretty sucky.

3.11. Tony Gonzalez, KC, TE2, BYE 8

value pick of the draft imo

10.06 San Diego, DEF, BYE 7

Ron Rivera + Merriman. I'll take it.

Drafting behind FM hasn't been much fun. Got my guy snatched in front of me in rounds 5 9 and 11.
I may not win but I'll have this moment. :shrug:
 
Shadowfax

8.02. Jay Cutler, DEN, QB17, BYE 6

6.02. Jon Kitna, DET, QB11, BYE 6

2.02. Travis Henry,DEN, RB16, BYE 6

4.02. Michael Turner, SD, RB26, BYE 7

7.15. Vernand Morency, GB, RB39, BYE 7

9.15. Mike Bell, DEN, RB47, BYE 6

3.15. Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR18, BYE 10

5.15. Mike Furrey, DET, WR29, BYE 6

10.02 DJ Hackett, SEA, WR53, BYE 8

1.15. Antonio Gates, SD, TE1, BYE 7

I didn't like my team before the byes. Now I have both QB, my top RB and WR2 (Cutler, Kitna, Henry/Bell and Furrey) all on the same bye.

:shrug:

:lmao: :lmao:
Wow. That's... wow. Just brutal. :lmao:
Actually just self inflicted. When you take 3 guys from the same team, not just once, but twice...you're asking for trouble. There's always a shot at immunity though.
 
Family Matters

QB: Bulger(9), Losman(6)

Bulger finished as the #3 last year. No reason to think he can't be top 5 again. Losman was the #13 and should be a reliable bye week option.

RB: Portis(4), James(8), Williams(9), Dillon-FA

Portis is coming off injury, Williams is likely reinstated and Dillon is homeless. Otherwise nice group. :shrug: James should do a little better this year. Not a great group but I should get steady if not unspectacular production.

WR: Buress(9), Moss(5), Curry(5), Engram(8)

Obviously Moss is the key here. Will it be a repeat of last year or will he rebound somewhat? Curry is up and coming and should do well this year. Engram was tracking a nice year if not for the games he missed. His injury is not a lingering concern so he could do well this year for a WR3.

TE: LJ Smith(5), Des. Clark(9)

I like this combo in lieu of having 1 of the top 4. They have the upside of producing top 4 numbers at times so I'm expecting solid production from them.

Overall this team should be able to hang around for a few weeks. Not likely a serious contender unless Portis & Moss can produce like in their better days. If they do then I like this team to compete. Otherwise, maybe a week 12 team.

 
I'll have at it even though the draft isn't over.

As we all know, I can really explain my analysis (as I do a ton of it), but I will try my best to keep it short.

E.Manning/9

Delhomme/7

M.Jones-Drew/4

B.Jacobs/9

K.Jones/6

C.Johnson/5

V.Jackson/7

Porter/5

D.Bennett/9

Jarrett/?

T.Copper/4

Winslow/7

Baker/10

Denver/6

QB: Considering I didn't take my first QB til the end of the 7th - I really like what I ended up with. Figured since I didn't use a much earlier pick to grab a top 5, I would go with the back-to-back QB route. Both have great receivers (Plax, Shockey; S.Smith). Both have put up top 10 seasons in the past. And probably the best way to get top 5-7 talent out of a position where you don't have a top 5-7 guy is by grabbing 2 in the top 15.

RB: Just working within the confines of the draft slot here. Obviously I can't be faulted for not having a stud RB as they were gone (ie, tomlinson, l.johnson, s.jackson, etc all went immediately - as they should). Went with MJD here who with only 166 carries last year ranked 8th among all RBs. This was due to the fact that he was a force inside the 5 - ending up with a total of 13 rushing TDs. (Consider that only 3 RBs in the league had more rushing TDs.) Combine that with F.Taylor being a year older - and his carries should definitely go up. In addition, in a PPR league, a RB that pulls in 3 catches a game ain't bad.

Jacobs was just a matter of liking him better than anyone else available. He should be the Giants true starting RB this year as Droughns doesn't scare me much. Not to mention 9 TDs when he had less than 100 carries. Another situation of a guy who should get even more carries this year - plus did well last year with limited touches.

Kevin Jones is a risk play. But if he is infact ready by the beginning of the season - then taken at the end of the 5th round would be huge!! And even if he isn't ready right away - I am gunning to win - not just stay alive a few weeks. Thus, if I can hold off at the beginning (when it tends to be easier to stay in since there are more teams), eventually he should be back. Then, at that time, it would be like getting a 2nd round RB in the 5th.

Seeing as though I really liked my RB situation (6th favorite RB group of 16 teams), I did nothing else here (at least thus far) trying to really strengthen the other positions.

WR: Chad Johnson as the #2 WR off the board. Love the guy. Nothing to really even say here.

Not going to comment on each and every guy (as we could all talk ourselves into or out of any pick).

Bottom line here is I like getting a lot of WRs in this format. Hey, 3 of them make the starting lineup (so to speak) every week - so having a lot of decent guys going is good. And I took my 6th WR while most teams still only had 4. (A couple teams still only had 3; most had 4; and a few had 5. No one else had 6 or more at the time I took my 6th.)

TE: Kellen Winslow, Jr: Top 5 TE in a normal format. Given the 2 ppr scoring system for this league - I like him even more as no TE came close to pulling in as many receptions as he did (he had 89). In fact, the two TEs tied with the 2nd most receptions among all TEs were Heap and Gonzalez (73 each). That means Winslow had more than 20% more receptions. (For more on this pick, I posted a longer post in the thread where I took him.)

Fingers just crossed that he is back in time and in full force. As explained in that thread, this was definitely a bit of a risky pick given the offseason surgery. But it could pay huge dividends if it works out.

After getting what I hope should be a top 5 TE, I waited a very long time for my TE2. Out of what was left (not much as 26 TEs were off the board when I picked my TE2), Baker was just the guy I liked most. He has improved each year he has been in the league (finishing 83rd among TEs in 02, then 58th, then 29th, then 31st (which doesn't seem like an improvement over 29th, but it was considering he only played in 8 games), then 18th. Hoping the trend continues.

K: Have none yet. That's b/c they are kickers. Nuff said.

DST: After the first 7 were off the board, there were 3 I liked best of the remaining 25. I wanted a decent one as I sensed a DST run would probably start up soon and after my pick, there would be 24 picks before I went again. (I took a chance and waited in round 13 - and luckily one of the three was still there in the early 14th.) Wanted a decent enough DST (top 10) since I would probably miss out on the next several.

That's it for now.

Would love to hear feedback.

 
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Hear-the-Footsteps said:
I'll have at it even though the draft isn't over.As we all know, I can really explain my analysis (as I do a ton of it), but I will try my best to keep it short.E.Manning/9Delhomme/7M.Jones-Drew/4B.Jacobs/9K.Jones/6C.Johnson/5V.Jackson/7Porter/5D.Bennett/9Jarrett/?T.Copper/4Winslow/7Baker/10Denver/6QB: Considering I didn't take my first QB til the end of the 7th - I really like what I ended up with. Figured since I didn't use a much earlier pick to grab a top 5, I would go with the back-to-back QB route. Both have great receivers (Plax, Shockey; S.Smith). Both have put up top 10 seasons in the past. And probably the best way to get top 5-7 talent out of a position where you don't have a top 5-7 guy is by grabbing 2 in the top 15.RB: Just working within the confines of the draft slot here. Obviously I can't be faulted for not having a stud RB as they were gone (ie, tomlinson, l.johnson, s.jackson, etc all went immediately - as they should). Went with MJD here who with only 166 carries last year ranked 8th among all RBs. This was due to the fact that he was a force inside the 5 - ending up with a total of 13 rushing TDs. (Consider that only 3 RBs in the league had more rushing TDs.) Combine that with F.Taylor being a year older - and his carries should definitely go up. In addition, in a PPR league, a RB that pulls in 3 catches a game ain't bad.Jacobs was just a matter of liking him better than anyone else available. He should be the Giants true starting RB this year as Droughns doesn't scare me much. Not to mention 9 TDs when he had less than 100 carries. Another situation of a guy who should get even more carries this year - plus did well last year with limited touches.Kevin Jones is a risk play. But if he is infact ready by the beginning of the season - then taken at the end of the 5th round would be huge!! And even if he isn't ready right away - I am gunning to win - not just stay alive a few weeks. Thus, if I can hold off at the beginning (when it tends to be easier to stay in since there are more teams), eventually he should be back. Then, at that time, it would be like getting a 2nd round RB in the 5th.Seeing as though I really liked my RB situation (6th favorite RB group of 16 teams), I did nothing else here (at least thus far) trying to really strengthen the other positions.WR: Chad Johnson as the #2 WR off the board. Love the guy. Nothing to really even say here.Not going to comment on each and every guy (as we could all talk ourselves into or out of any pick).Bottom line here is I like getting a lot of WRs in this format. Hey, 3 of them make the starting lineup (so to speak) every week - so having a lot of decent guys going is good. And I took my 6th WR while most teams still only had 4. (A couple teams still only had 3; most had 4; and a few had 5. No one else had 6 or more at the time I took my 6th.)TE: Kellen Winslow, Jr: Top 5 TE in a normal format. Given the 2 ppr scoring system for this league - I like him even more as no TE came close to pulling in as many receptions as he did (he had 89). In fact, the two TEs tied with the 2nd most receptions among all TEs were Heap and Gonzalez (73 each). That means Winslow had more than 20% more receptions. (For more on this pick, I posted a longer post in the thread where I took him.)Fingers just crossed that he is back in time and in full force. As explained in that thread, this was definitely a bit of a risky pick given the offseason surgery. But it could pay huge dividends if it works out.After getting what I hope should be a top 5 TE, I waited a very long time for my TE2. Out of what was left (not much as 26 TEs were off the board when I picked my TE2), Baker was just the guy I liked most. He has improved each year he has been in the league (finishing 83rd among TEs in 02, then 58th, then 29th, then 31st (which doesn't seem like an improvement over 29th, but it was considering he only played in 8 games), then 18th. Hoping the trend continues.K: Have none yet. That's b/c they are kickers. Nuff said.DST: After the first 7 were off the board, there were 3 I liked best of the remaining 25. I wanted a decent one as I sensed a DST run would probably start up soon and after my pick, there would be 24 picks before I went again. (I took a chance and waited in round 13 - and luckily one of the three was still there in the early 14th.) Wanted a decent enough DST (top 10) since I would probably miss out on the next several.That's it for now.Would love to hear feedback.
I would love to give you feedback, but you have a core that has flaws, and if I directed you the right way, it may strengthen your team, and to the point that it's a really strong team. And I really don't want to do that, as some of your weaknesses that you need to shore up, well, they conflict with my weaknesses.That said, I love your team, and I think you should go kicker the next 5 rounds. Good luck.
 
I go by the :confused: and just wanted to see my team updated for a reference.

I know we have a team thread, but I lose it when I'm picking in 2 PDSLs.

QB Carson Palmer 3.07

QB Charlie Frye 11.07

QB Brady Quinn 14.10

RB Reggie Bush 1.07

RB DeAngelo Williams 4.10

RB LaMont Jordan 6.10

RB TJ Duckett 18.10

WR Terrell Owens 2.10

WR Donte Stallworth 5.07

WR Joe Horn 7.07

WR Keyshawn Johnson 8.10

WR Bobby Wade 13.07

WR Justin McCareins 19.07

TE Visante Shiancoe 10.10

TE Ben Troupe 12.10

K Josh Brown 15.07

K Jeff Reed 17.07

DEF Baltimore Ravens 9.06

DEF New Orleans Saints 16.10

 
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Sure I'll give it a shot. Not going to bother with grades because plenty of draft left and a lot of depth issues with teams may / may not be resolved.

E.Manning/9

Delhomme/7
Manning is a QB who ends up looking quite a bit better in best ball than in normal redraft due to the fluctuations he goes through. Some games he'll give you 20+ pts and other weeks you'll get 20th QB production out of him. The other downside has to do with the age effect on the offense. Toomer is really getting up there in age and probably doesn't have long left and Barber got a nice chunk of drop-off passes that it'll be hard to predict Droughns or Jacobs getting. He's a good QB pts-wise by the end of the year who happens to look a lot better in this type of format, Delhomme is a guy a lot of people are down on, but has the potential to put up solid numbers. All you have to do is look at who he's chucking the ball too, plus the O-line should be healthy this year. Still, Delhomme has melted down before and put up some stinkers of games, so he doesn't exactly count as mr. reliable either.

Eli and Delhomme should do fine for the majority of the season and if you're lucky, won't slump at the same time much. The only real danger to the QB tandem other than slumps is if Delhomme gets injured or starts to melt down, CAR may want to try the Carr option out. I don't see that happening as quickly as some seem to be hoping, but it's something to consider.

Overall QB isn't exactly a strength, but it's not a weakness either, especially considering half the teams in this league have a serious issue with depth at the QB spot. Having two starters on playoff contenders not sharing byes is fine. If Eli excels then QB is looking very solid.

M.Jones-Drew/4

B.Jacobs/9

K.Jones/6
I mostly agree with the analysis of MJD. I think his gaudy TD numbers will take a hit, but his total yardage / receptions go up due to more carries and presence. Jacobs is fine, he starts, he'll get goal-line work and an equal amount of running time. I think some people are being overly optimistic about how well he'll perform considering what kind of back he is and from what we've seen from him thus far, but he's a viable RB2 for what info we do have.Kevin Jones could be back for the beginning of the season, could come back partway into it, whatever. Nobody has a real clue. Even if he does start at the beginning of the season, we're basically assuming he comes back at full strength at this point.

Thing that would worry me is it's the 15th round now and you only have three running backs. One of which has a serious recovery and may not start the season. Three running backs in good situations / with a lot of talent without injury issues is really risky to begin with. Current situation basically means you could have a major issue if Jones doesn't come back right away and one of your other RB gets off to a slow start. This of course assumes nothing happens to MJD or Jacobs either. A single slump or injury to either could cost you a lot of points each week.

I'd be pretty worried and GL finding anybody left on the board to help out. Back-up's much?

C.Johnson/5

V.Jackson/7

Porter/5

D.Bennett/9

Jarrett/?

T.Copper/4
C.J. is obviously a stud and the weeks he has single digit numbers don't sting as much here. Vincent Jackson could be a great #2 who over-achieves considering most of the balls will be going to LT and Gates, worst case he still gives you -ok- numbers for being the technical #1 WR on his team. Porter has good talent and may actually be able to show it off if it he could ever get out of the doghouse. Bennett I think ends up as a decent #3, but S-Jax, Holt and Bruce will get the majority of balls still. Jarrett is a big question mark, so no comment. Copper is fine value for where you got him and it's reasonable to expect him to put up a couple of nice weeks now that he'll be in the line-up consistently.

A lot of guys with talent and upside here; only question is if they have the opportunities to show it off. If guys like Bennett, Porter and Copper see more than a few balls a game, they'll be very viable. That'll be the key.

Winslow/7

Baker/10
If Winslow comes back healthy you have the closest TE to Gates in the 4th instead of the 1st. Great value. If not... gg.
Denver. :confused: I think this is a good core of guys, but the depth issues are obvious at running back and it's a bit of disturbing to see so many WR's that -could- do very well, but may not on any form of consistent basis. One is easier to correct than the other this late in the draft; you may just have to roll the dice though and hope for the best.

 
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