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PDSL2 Rounds 17/18 (1 Viewer)

renesauz

renesauz

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Order (and PM links):

1. BostonFred

2. renesauz

3. Jeff Pasquino

4. BassNBrew

5. Twilight

6. radballs

7. Duke1948

8. Hear the Footsteps

9. Blue-Kun

10. Team Legacy

11. Domination

12. OldMilwaukee

13. Road Warriors

14. FUBAR

15. Gamma1210

16. el super gringo

Key:

QB

RB

WR

TE

K

D/ST

17.01 - BostonFred - Darren Sproles, SD, RB63

17.02 - renesauz - Josh Reed, Buf, WR83

17.03 - Jeff Pasquino -Ryan Longwell, Min, PK23

17.04 - BassNBrew - Matt Bryant, TB, PK24

17.05 - Twilight - Andre Davis, HOU, WR84

17.06 - radballs - DeShaun Foster, SF, RB64

17.07 - Duke1948 - Johnny Lee Higgins, OAK, WR85

17.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE29

17.09 - Blue-Kun - Jeff Reed, PIT, PK25

17.10 - Team Legacy - Martin Gramatica, NO, PK26

17.11 - Domination - Jamaal Charles, Rookie, RB65

17.12 - OldMilwaukee - Kyle Boller, BAL, QB32

17.13 - Road Warriors - Bobby Wade, MIN, WR86

17.14 - FUBAR - Mewelde Moore, PIT, RB66

17.15 - Gamma1210 - Kurt Warner, AZ, QB33

17.16 - el super gringo - Josh McCown, Mia, QB34

18.01 - el super gringo - Earl Bennett, ROOK, WR87

18.02 - Gamma1210 - Joe Nedney, SF, PK27

18.03 - FUBAR - Bo Scaife, Ten, TE30

18.04 - Road Warriors - Rian Lindell, Buf, PK28

18.05 - OldMilwaukee - Brad Smith, NYJ, WR88

18.06 - Domination - David Martin, Mia, TE31

18.07 - Team Legacy - Matt Prater, DEN, PK29

18.08 - Blue-Kun - Lance Moore, NO, WR89

18.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Matt Ryan, Rookie, QB35

18.10 - Duke1948 - Demetrius Williams, BAL, WR90

18.11 - radballs - Drew Carter, OAK, WR91

18.12 - Twilight - DeSean Jackson, Rookie, WR92

18.13 - BassNBrew - Matt Jones, JAX, WR93

18.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Warrick Dunn, TB, RB67

18.15 - renesauz - Correll Buckhalter, PHI, RB68

18.16 - BostonFred

PREP AREA:

19.01 - BostonFred

19.02 - renesauz

19.03 - Jeff Pasquino

19.04 - BassNBrew

19.05 - Twilight

19.06 - radballs

19.07 - Duke1948

19.08 - Hear the Footsteps

19.09 - Blue-Kun

19.10 - Team Legacy

19.11 - Domination

19.12 - OldMilwaukee

19.13 - Road Warriors

19.14 - FUBAR

19.15 - Gamma1210

19.16 - el super gringo

20.01 - el super gringo

20.02 - Gamma1210

20.03 - FUBAR

20.04 - Road Warriors

20.05 - OldMilwaukee

20.06 - Domination

20.07 - Team Legacy

20.08 - Blue-Kun

20.09 - Hear the Footsteps

20.10 - Duke1948

20.11 - radballs

20.12 - Twilight

20.13 - BassNBrew

20.14 - Jeff Pasquino

20.15 - renesauz

20.16 - BostonFred

 
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Previous Rounds 1-10

PAST ROUNDS:

Rounds 1 and 2:

1.01 - BostonFred - LaDainian Tomlinson, SD, RB1

1.02 - renesauz - Brian Westbrook, PHI, RB2

1.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Adrian Peterson, MIN, RB3

1.04 - BassNBrew - Joseph Addai, INDY, RB4

1.05 - Twilight - Steven Jackson, STL, RB5

1.06 - radballs - Frank Gore, SF, RB6

1.07 - Duke1948 - Marion Barber III, DAL, RB7

1.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Clinton Portis, WASH, RB8

1.09 - Blue-Kun - Marshawn Lynch, BUF, RB9

1.10 - Team Legacy - Randy Moss, NE, WR1

1.11 - Domination - Reggie Bush, NO, RB10

1.12 - OldMilwaukee - Tom Brady, NE, QB1

1.13 - Road Warriors - Willis McGahee, BAL, RB11

1.14 - FUBAR - Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX, RB12

1.15 - Gamma1210 - Larry Johnson, KC, RB13

1.16 - el super gringo - Fast Willie Parker, PIT, RB14

2.01 - el super gringo - Peyton Manning, IND, QB2

2.02 - Gamma1210 - Terrell Owens, DAL, WR2

2.03 - FUBAR - Reggie Wayne, IND, WR3

2.04 - Road Warriors - Ryan Grant, GB, RB15

2.05 - OldMilwaukee - Ronnie Brown, MIA, RB16

2.06 - Domination - Laurence Maroney, NE, RB17

2.07 - Team Legacy - DeAngelo Williams, CAR, RB18

2.08 - Blue-Kun - Braylon Edwards, CLE, WR4

2.09 - Hear the Footsteps - TJ Houshmandzadeh, CIN, WR5

2.10 - Duke1948 - Michael Turner, ATL, RB19

2.11 - radballs - Larry Fitzgerald, AZ, WR6

2.12 - Twilight - Antonio Gates, SD, TE1

2.13 - BassNBrew - Steve Smith, CAR, WR7

2.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Marques Colston, NO, WR8

2.15 - renesauz - Andre Johnson, HOU, WR9

2.16 - BostonFred - Wes Welker, NE, WR10

Rounds 3 and 4:



3.01 - BostonFred - Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR11

3.02 - renesauz - Chad Johnson, CIN, WR12

3.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Torry Holt, STL, WR13

3.04 - BassNBrew - Jason Witten, DAL, TE2

3.05 - Twilight - Anquan Boldin, AZ, WR14

3.06 - radballs - Kellen Winslow Jr., CLE, TE3

3.07 - Duke1948 - Brandon Marshall, DEN, WR15

3.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Jamal Lewis, CLE, RB20

3.09 - Blue-Kun - Tony Gonzalez, KC, TE4

3.10 - Team Legacy - Tony Romo, DAL, QB3

3.11 - Domination - Roy Williams, DET, WR16

3.12 - OldMilwaukee - Javon Walker, OAK, WR17

3.13 - Road Warriors - Greg Jennings, GB, WR18

3.14 - FUBAR - Santonio Holmes, PIT, WR19

3.15 - Gamma1210 - Donald Driver, GB, WR20

3.16 - el super gringo - Earnest Graham, TB, RB21

4.01 - el super gringo - Lee Evans, BUF, WR21

4.02 - Gamma1210 - Darren McFadden, Rookie, RB22

4.03 - FUBAR - Edgerrin James, AZ, RB23

4.04 - Road Warriors - Roddy White, ATL, WR22

4.05 - OldMilwaukee - Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR23

4.06 - Domination - Carson Palmer, CIN, QB4

4.07 - Team Legacy - Thomas Jones, NYJ, RB24

4.08 - Blue-Kun - Drew Brees, NO, QB5

4.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Chris Cooley, WASH, TE5

4.10 - Duke1948 - Derek Anderson, CLE, QB6

4.11 - radballs - Calvin Johnson, DET, WR24

4.12 - Twilight - LenDale White, TEN, RB25

4.13 - BassNBrew - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT, QB7

4.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Matt Hasselbeck, SEA, QB8

4.15 - renesauz - Rashard Mendenhall, Rookie, RB26

4.16 - BostonFred - Dallas Clark, IND, TE6

Rounds 5 and 6:

5.01 - BostonFred - Marc Bulger, STL, QB9

5.02 - renesauz - Donovan McNabb, PHI, QB10

5.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Todd Heap, BAL, TE7

5.04 - BassNBrew - Chris Chambers, SD, WR25

5.05 - Twilight - Jay Cutler, DEN, QB11

5.06 - radballs - Eli Manning, NYG, QB12

5.07 - Duke1948 - Marvin Harrison, IND, WR26

5.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR27

5.09 - Blue-Kun - Brandon Jacobs, NYG, RB27

5.10 - Team Legacy - Hines Ward, PIT, WR28

5.11 - Domination - Laveranues Coles, NYJ, WR29

5.12 - OldMilwaukee - Vernon Davis, SF, TE8

5.13 - Road Warriors - Kevin Curtis, PHI, WR30

5.14 - FUBAR - David Garrard, JAX, QB13

5.15 - Gamma1210 - Jeremy Shockey, NYG, TE9

5.16 - el super gringo - Owen Daniels, HOU, TE10

6.01 - el super gringo - Jerry Porter, JAX, WR31

6.02 - Gamma1210 - Philip Rivers, SD, QB14

6.03 - FUBAR - Tony Scheffler, DEN, TE11

6.04 - Road Warriors - Heath Miler, PIT, TE12

6.05 - OldMilwaukee - Fred Taylor, JAX, RB28

6.06 - Domination - Santana Moss, WASH, WR32

6.07 - Team Legacy - Rudi Johnson, CIN, RB29

6.08 - Blue-Kun - Bernard Berrian, MIN, WR33

6.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR34

6.10 - Duke1948 - Reggie Brown, PHI, WR35

6.11 - radballs - Jonathan Stewart, Rookie, RB30

6.12 - Twilight - Joey Galloway, TB, WR36

6.13 - BassNBrew - Julius Jones, SEA, RB31

6.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Bobby Engram, SEA, WR37

6.15 - renesauz - Sidney Rice, Min, WR38

6.16 - BostonFred - Jake Delhomme, Car, QB15

Rounds 7 and 8:

7.01 - BostonFred - Chris Brown, Hou, RB32

7.02 - renesauz - Justin Fargas, Oak, RB33

7.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Travis Henry, DEN, RB34

7.04 - BassNBrew - Vince Young, TEN, QB16

7.05 - Twilight - Deuce McCallister, NO, RB35

7.06 - radballs - Matt Schaub, Hou, QB17

7.07 - Duke1948 - Jason Campbell, Was, QB18

7.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB19

7.09 - Blue-Kun - Anthony Gonzalez, INDY, WR39

7.10 - Team Legacy - Alge Crumpler, TEN, TE13

7.11 - Domination - Greg Olsen, CHI, TE14

7.12 - OldMilwaukee - LJ Smith, PHI, TE15

7.13 - Road Warriors - Jon Kitna, DET, QB20

7.14 - FUBAR - Patrick Crayton, DAL, WR40

7.15 - Gamma1210 - Nate Burleson, Sea, WR41

7.16 - el super gringo - Donald Lee, GB, TE16

8.01 - el super gringo - Donte' Stallworth, Cle, WR42

8.02 - Gamma1210 - Matt Leinart, Ari, QB21

8.03 - FUBAR - Jeff Garcia, TB, QB22

8.04 - Road Warriors - Kellen Clemens, NYJ, QB23

8.05 - OldMilwaukee - Bryant Johnson, SF, WR43

8.06 - Domination - JaMarcus Russell, OAK, QB24

8.07 - Team Legacy - Vincent Jackson, SDC, WR44

8.08 - Blue-Kun - Chester Taylor, MIN, RB36

8.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Trent Edwards, BUF, QB25

8.10 - Duke1948 - Ben Watson, NE, TE17

8.11 - radballs - Mark Clayton, BAL, WR45

8.12 - Twilight - Tarvaris Jackson, MIN, QB26

8.13 - BassNBrew - Ted Ginn, MIA, WR46

8.14 - Jeff Pasquino - DJ Hackett, CAR, WR47

8.15 - renesauz - Eric Johnson, NO, TE18

8.16 - BostonFred - Reggie Williams, JAX, WR48

Rounds 9 and 10:

9.01 - BostonFred - Isaac Bruce, SF, WR49

9.02 - renesauz - Ronald Curry, Oak, WR50

9.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Alex Smith, SF, QB27

9.04 - BassNBrew - Selvin Young, DEN, RB37

9.05 - Twilight - Malcolm Kelly, Rookie, WR51

9.06 - radballs - Drew Bennett, STL, WR52

9.07 - Duke1948 - Cedric Benson, Chi, RB38

9.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB39

9.09 - Blue-Kun - Roydell Williams, TEN, WR53

9.10 - Team Legacy - Zach Miller, OAK, TE19

9.11 - Domination - Michael Bush, OAK, RB40

9.12 - OldMilwaukee - Mark Bradley, CHI, WR54

9.13 - Road Warriors - Deion "the PUP list" Branch, SEA, WR55

9.14 - FUBAR - Arnaz Battle, SF, WR56

9.15 - Gamma1210 - Jerious Norwood, ATL, RB41

9.16 - el super gringo - Devin Hester, Chi, WR57

10.01 - el super gringo - SanDiego Chargers, DST1

10.02 - Gamma1210 - Devin Thomas, ROOK, WR58

10.03 - FUBAR - Felix Jones, ROOK, RB42

10.04 - Road Warriors - Jabar Gaffney, NE, WR59

10.05 - OldMilwaukee - Shaun Alexander, Sea, RB43

10.06 - Domination - Ernest Wilford, Mia, WR60

10.07 - Team Legacy - David Patten, NO, WR61

10.08 - Blue-Kun - Kenny Watson, Cin, RB44

10.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Shaun McDonald, Det, WR62

10.10 - Duke1948 - Randy McMichael, STL, TE20

10.11 - radballs - Brandon Stokely, Den, WR63

10.12 - Twilight - Ray Rice, Rookie, RB45

10.13 - BassNBrew - Marty Booker, CHI, WR64

10.14 - Jeff Pasquino - James Jones, GB, WR65

10.15 - renesauz - Marcedes Lewis, JAX, TE21

10.16 - BostonFred - Derrick Ward, NYG, RB46

 
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Previous rounds 11+

11.01 - BostonFred - Ahman Green, Hou, RB47

11.02 - renesauz - Brodie Croyle, KC, QB28

11.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Jeff King, Car, TE22

11.04 - BassNBrew - Sammy Morris, NE, RB48

11.05 - Twilight - Steve Smith, NYG, WR66

11.06 - radballs - Tatum Bell, DET, RB49

11.07 - Duke1948 - Justin Gage, Ten, WR67

11.08 - Hear the Footsteps - TIMED OUT. (4 hour clock) (11.09)- Kevin Walter, HOU, WR69

11.09 - Blue-Kun - (11.08) Amani Toomer, NYG, WR68

11.10 - Team Legacy - Chris Redman, ATL, QB29

11.11 - Domination - Ben Utecht, Cin, TE23

11.12 - OldMilwaukee - Chicago Bears, DST2

11.13 - Road Warriors - New England Patriots, DST3

11.14 - FUBAR - Chris Henry, Ten, RB50

11.15 - Gamma1210 - Laurent Robinson, Atl, WR70

11.16 - el super gringo - Adrian Peterson, CHI, RB51

12.01 - el super gringo - Baltimore Ravens, DST4

12.02 - Gamma1210 - Pittsburgh Steelers, DST5

12.03 - FUBAR - New York Giants, DST6

12.04 - Road Warriors - Kevin Smith, Rookie, RB52

12.05 - OldMilwaukee [TIMED OUT 4 HOUR CLOCK] - Craig Davis, SD, WR71

12.06 - Domination - Dallas Cowboys, DST7

12.07 - Team Legacy - Minnesota Vikings, DST8

12.08 - Blue-Kun - Shaun Hill, SF, QB30

12.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Seattle Seahawks, DST9

12.10 - Duke1948 - Green Bay Packers, DST10

12.11 - radballs - Desmond Clark, Chi, TE24

12.12 - Twilight - Fred Davis, ROOK, TE25

12.13 - BassNBrew - Chad Jackson, NE, WR72

12.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Indianapolis Colts, DST11

12.15 - renesauz - Oakland Raiders, DST12

12.16 - BostonFred - Brandon Jackson, GB, RB53

13.01 - BostonFred - Mushin Muhammad, CAR, WR73

13.02 - renesauz - Denver Broncos, DST13

13.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Pierre Thomas, NO, RB54

13.04 - BassNBrew - Philadelphia Eagles, DST14

13.05 - Twilight - Mason Crosby, GB, PK1

13.06 - radballs - Jacksonville Jaguars, DST15

13.07 - Duke1948 - Jacoby Jones, Hou, WR74

13.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Kevin Jones, ?????, RB55

13.09 - Blue-Kun - Arizona Cardinals, DST16

13.10 - Team Legacy - Leon Washington, NYJ, RB56

13.11 - Domination - Limas Sweed, Rookie, WR75

13.12 - OldMilwaukee - TIMED OUT [2 Hour Clock]

13.13 - Road Warriors - Kevin Faulk, NE, RB57

13.14 - FUBAR - Antwaan Randle El, WASH, WR76

13.12 - OldMilwaukee - TIMED OUT [2 Hour Clock] - Michael Jenkins, ATL, Rookie, WR77

13.15 - Gamma1210 - Chris Johnson, Rookie, RB58

13.16 - el super gringo - Stephen Gostkowski, NE, PK2

14.01 - el super gringo - Robert Meachem, NO, WR78

14.02 - Gamma1210 - Adam Vinatieri, INDY, PK3

14.03 - FUBAR - Tennessee Titans, DST17

14.04 - Road Warriors - Nick Folk, DAL, PK4

14.05 - OldMilwaukee - Buffalo Bills, DST18

14.06 - Domination - Josh Brown, STL, PK5

14.07 - Team Legacy - James Hardy, Rookie, WR79

14.08 - Blue-Kun - Cleveland Browns, DST19

14.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Tampa Bay Buccaneers, DST20

14.10 - Duke1948 - Washington Redskins, DST21

14.11 - radballs - Shayne Graham, CIN, PK6

14.12 - Twilight - Jeff Webb, KC, WR80

14.13 - BassNBrew - Nate Kaeding, SD, PK7

14.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Rob Bironas, TEN, PK8

14.15 - renesauz - Robbie Gould, Chi, PK9

14.16 - BostonFred - Jason Elam, Atl, PK10

15.01 - BostonFred - Carolina Panthers, DST22

15.02 - renesauz - Jason Hanson, Det, PK11

15.03 - Jeff Pasquino - Houston Texans, DST23

15.04 - BassNBrew - Ladell Betts, Was, RB59

15.05 - Twilight - New Orleans Saints, DST24

15.06 - radballs - Sebastion Janikowski, Oak, PK12

15.07 - Duke1948 - Najeh Davenport, Pit, RB60

15.08 - Hear the Footsteps - Phil Dawson, CLE, PK13

15.09 - Blue-Kun - Shaun Suisham, WASH, PK14

15.10 - Team Legacy - Darrell Jackson, DEN(??), WR81

15.11 - Domination - Josh Scobee, JAX, PK15

15.12 - OldMilwaukee - Ricky Williams, MIA, RB61

15.13 - Road Warriors - Chris Baker, NYJ, TE26

15.14 - FUBAR - Rex Grossman, Chi, QB31

15.15 - Gamma1210 - Miami Dolphins, DST25

15.16 - el super gringo - Leonard Pope, Ari, TE27

16.01 - el super gringo - Matt Stover, Bal, PK16

16.02 - Gamma1210 - Alex Smith, TB, TE28

16.03 - FUBAR - David Akers, Phi, PK17

16.04 - Road Warriors - Cincinnati Bengals, DST26

16.05 - OldMilwaukee - Lawrence Tynes, NYG, PK18

16.06 - Domination - San Francisco 49ers, DST27

16.07 - Team Legacy - New York Jets, DST28

16.08 - Blue-Kun - Detroit Lions, DST29

16.09 - Hear the Footsteps - Kris Brown, HOU, PK19

16.10 - Duke1948 - Neil Rackers, AZ, PK20

16.11 - radballs - St. Louis Rams, DST30

16.12 - Twilight - Kansas City Chiefs, DST31

16.13 - BassNBrew - Atlanta Falcons, DST32

16.14 - Jeff Pasquino - Lorenzo Booker, MIA, RB62

16.15 - renesauz - Nate Washington, Pit, WR82

16.16 - BostonFred - Mike Nugent, NYJ, PK21

 
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(Posted in the 15/16 thread before I checked this one)

bostonfred said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
renesauz said:
Nate Washington
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bostonfred has timed out, renesauz is now up.
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Yes, my first pick timed out. But once I make that pick, I still have my four hours. Renesauz' pick can be allowed to stand, but there's no reason why I should not be granted the all powerful clock that you were. The rules clearly state that I am to be given eight hours to make my pick. If I fail to make my pick, I get four hours for my next pick. Tomorrow is the date that restricted free agents must sign. It is critically important to my draft strategy that I be allowed to see who signed and who did not. After all, everyone else will have multiple picks with that information. Let's make sure we get all the rules out on the table. The clock is not just there to make sure people can deal with their day to day activities. It is a POWERFUL STRATEGIC DEVICE that must be used to maximize my advantage at every pick.
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Dude, you are better than this.1. The NW pick was his 16th, so of course it stands. You weren't up yet.2. The corners have 1 clock for their 2 picks, and have for a while. This means the corner gets less actual time, but that is the way it is. Pick already.
 
Twilight said:
(Posted in the 15/16 thread before I checked this one)

bostonfred said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
renesauz said:
Nate Washington
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bostonfred has timed out, renesauz is now up.
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Yes, my first pick timed out. But once I make that pick, I still have my four hours. Renesauz' pick can be allowed to stand, but there's no reason why I should not be granted the all powerful clock that you were. The rules clearly state that I am to be given eight hours to make my pick. If I fail to make my pick, I get four hours for my next pick. Tomorrow is the date that restricted free agents must sign. It is critically important to my draft strategy that I be allowed to see who signed and who did not. After all, everyone else will have multiple picks with that information.

Let's make sure we get all the rules out on the table. The clock is not just there to make sure people can deal with their day to day activities. It is a POWERFUL STRATEGIC DEVICE that must be used to maximize my advantage at every pick.
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Dude, you are better than this.1. The NW pick was his 16th, so of course it stands. You weren't up yet.

2. The corners have 1 clock for their 2 picks, and have for a while. This means the corner gets less actual time, but that is the way it is. Pick already.
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That's correct. It doesn't even make sense for the end to have more time. You yourself argued that the clock was never meant to be used as a strategic tool, but to accomadate real lives. Your (mis)interpretation would mean that the end would have 12 hours at SOME point in the draft (albeit only once) of their own choosing, which is not the purpose.You made a mountain out of a molehill with Jeff, and it this point, I don't think anybody even cares if you were right (which was obviously debatable), because you're definately wrong now.

To purposefully time out is a far greater transgression then to use a few extra hours of clock to look for specific news (like a schedule release.)

Man up and make your pick so we can get this thing finished.

 
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Twilight said:
1. The NW pick was his 16th, so of course it stands. You weren't up yet.2. The corners have 1 clock for their 2 picks, and have for a while. This means the corner gets less actual time, but that is the way it is. Pick already.
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That is correct. I don't disagree with this interpretation whatsoever. However, what we HAVEN'T seen is a case where someone on the corner makes their first pick, then waits to make their second. The reason the person on the corner gets "one clock for their two picks" is that, if they're gone for more than eight hours, we don't want to delay the draft for a full day (eight hours, plus eight hours when the clock is off, plus another four hours for their second pick). But now that we've introduced the idea of the clock as a strategic weapon, I challenge the idea that I somehow lose my right to a clock between picks. Since this has never happened before, you cannot claim precedent, and it's not in the rules.Of course I'd like to thank Jeff, who appears to have been sitting at his computer at precisely the time that my clock timed out. Obviously his life didn't get in the way last night.
 
renesauz said:
That's correct. It doesn't even make sense for the end to have more time. You yourself argued that the clock was never meant to be used as a strategic tool, but to accomadate real lives. Your (mis)interpretation would mean that the end would have 12 hours at SOME point in the draft (albeit only once) of their own choosing, which is not the purpose.

You made a mountain out of a molehill with Jeff, and it this point, I don't think anybody even cares if you were right (which was obviously debatable), because you're definately wrong now.

To purposefully time out is a far greater transgression then to use a few extra hours of clock to look for specific news (like a schedule release.)

Man up and make your pick so we can get this thing finished.
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Thanks renesauz. I appreciate that interpretation. Unfortunately, I don't dare pick because I'm afraid that other people would get to have more picks than me with the valuable information about which restricted free agents re-sign with their teams and which don't. This is extremely important to my draft strategy, and has been since day one. I'm sorry if that holds up the draft, but the good news is that it should hold it up less than Jeff's move did earlier, when he used a combined twenty one hours. ANYONE would do this, because it's such an obvious tactical move.
 
bostonfred said:
renesauz said:
That's correct. It doesn't even make sense for the end to have more time. You yourself argued that the clock was never meant to be used as a strategic tool, but to accomadate real lives. Your (mis)interpretation would mean that the end would have 12 hours at SOME point in the draft (albeit only once) of their own choosing, which is not the purpose.

You made a mountain out of a molehill with Jeff, and it this point, I don't think anybody even cares if you were right (which was obviously debatable), because you're definately wrong now.

To purposefully time out is a far greater transgression then to use a few extra hours of clock to look for specific news (like a schedule release.)

Man up and make your pick so we can get this thing finished.
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Thanks renesauz. I appreciate that interpretation. Unfortunately, I don't dare pick because I'm afraid that other people would get to have more picks than me with the valuable information about which restricted free agents re-sign with their teams and which don't. This is extremely important to my draft strategy, and has been since day one. I'm sorry if that holds up the draft, but the good news is that it should hold it up less than Jeff's move did earlier, when he used a combined twenty one hours. ANYONE would do this, because it's such an obvious tactical move.
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You've timed out. We're moving on with or without you.

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
bostonfred said:
renesauz said:
That's correct. It doesn't even make sense for the end to have more time. You yourself argued that the clock was never meant to be used as a strategic tool, but to accomadate real lives. Your (mis)interpretation would mean that the end would have 12 hours at SOME point in the draft (albeit only once) of their own choosing, which is not the purpose.

You made a mountain out of a molehill with Jeff, and it this point, I don't think anybody even cares if you were right (which was obviously debatable), because you're definately wrong now.

To purposefully time out is a far greater transgression then to use a few extra hours of clock to look for specific news (like a schedule release.)

Man up and make your pick so we can get this thing finished.
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Thanks renesauz. I appreciate that interpretation. Unfortunately, I don't dare pick because I'm afraid that other people would get to have more picks than me with the valuable information about which restricted free agents re-sign with their teams and which don't. This is extremely important to my draft strategy, and has been since day one. I'm sorry if that holds up the draft, but the good news is that it should hold it up less than Jeff's move did earlier, when he used a combined twenty one hours. ANYONE would do this, because it's such an obvious tactical move.
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You've timed out. We're moving on with or without you.
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Hi Jeff. Good to see that you have enough time to be here at midnight last night when I timed out and 9 this morning when you decided I'm supposed to pick. In fact, I can't remember one single time when you weren't here to make your pick, except the two times you timed out to waste a whole day for us so you could see the schedule. I guess I'm a little confused at why you're not trying to help me here. I'm just trying to use my clock to get information on the restricted free agents that are getting signed. I'm more than a little surprised that you'd consider picking, when you'd be giving up that valuable information for a whole pick.
 
bostonfred said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
bostonfred said:
renesauz said:
That's correct. It doesn't even make sense for the end to have more time. You yourself argued that the clock was never meant to be used as a strategic tool, but to accomadate real lives. Your (mis)interpretation would mean that the end would have 12 hours at SOME point in the draft (albeit only once) of their own choosing, which is not the purpose.

You made a mountain out of a molehill with Jeff, and it this point, I don't think anybody even cares if you were right (which was obviously debatable), because you're definately wrong now.

To purposefully time out is a far greater transgression then to use a few extra hours of clock to look for specific news (like a schedule release.)

Man up and make your pick so we can get this thing finished.
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Thanks renesauz. I appreciate that interpretation. Unfortunately, I don't dare pick because I'm afraid that other people would get to have more picks than me with the valuable information about which restricted free agents re-sign with their teams and which don't. This is extremely important to my draft strategy, and has been since day one. I'm sorry if that holds up the draft, but the good news is that it should hold it up less than Jeff's move did earlier, when he used a combined twenty one hours. ANYONE would do this, because it's such an obvious tactical move.
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Hi Jeff. Good to see that you have enough time to be here at midnight last night when I timed out and 9 this morning when you decided I'm supposed to pick. In fact, I can't remember one single time when you weren't here to make your pick, except the two times you timed out to waste a whole day for us so you could see the schedule. I guess I'm a little confused at why you're not trying to help me here. I'm just trying to use my clock to get information on the restricted free agents that are getting signed. I'm more than a little surprised that you'd consider picking, when you'd be giving up that valuable information for a whole pick.
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Good morning fred.So nice to see you too.

I'd just like to point to you that, with your concerns about life getting in the way, I was up all night worrying about you.

In consideration of what could possibly be wrong, I decided to defer posting my picks when the rules are clearly saying that you've timed out, but I thought that I would give you some of my clock just in case and wait until you got here in the morning.

Glad to see that you are all right.

Take your time.

 
In the interest of speeding things up, and so as to not make anyone miss time during the actual work day, I will take Darren Sproles, RB SD. I hope the majority of you were not inconvenienced.

 
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In the interest of speeding things up, and so as to not make anyone miss time during the actual work day, I will take Darren Sproles, RB SD. I hope the majority of you were not inconvenienced.
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You still don't get it, do you?Jeff never timed out...he simply waited a few hours past when he could have physically made his pick. We accepted your objection to that, even though not everybody agrees with you. Bass accepted it, and gave the "wronged parties" (you and I) an opportunity to make new picks, to keep things fair in your eyes. We aso acknowledged that in future drafts we will account for that specific situation in some manner, most likely by stopping the draft at a turn.You made your point then, because even those who disagreed with you understood (and accepted) your point enough to agree to concessions for future drafts.You truly have made a mountain out of a molehill, and you're making it much worse now. you've been an accepted and respected member of this community for a long time, and you're better then this.To further complicate matters, you DID NOT play within the rules when you purposefully timed out. (Jeff MAY have been unethical in some eyes, but he was definately inside the rules.) And you did so in a petty manner just to prove a point that WE AS A GROUP, AND BASS AS THE TRUE COMMISH HAD ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED and attempted to rectify.To be honest, were I Bass, I would kick you out of this and all future drafts...because you PURPOSEFULLY IGNORED the rules. Jeff did not.
 
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you PURPOSEFULLY IGNORED the rules.
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Incorrect. I didn't ignore the rules at all. The rules clearly account for what happens if you don't make your pick in the designated timeframe, and you were right there to make sure you got your pick in when it happened. I did expect clarification on the rules, but that's a different story. And I held up the draft far less than I could have. If I'd wanted, I could have picked at 11:50 last night, then had us waiting until 4pm today. Instead, I only delayed the draft overnight, and started it back up again at the start of the working day. I didn't get a PM from you after your pick, by the way, even though you said you had time to PM your next pick to Jeff just in case. I might have done things differently if I had realized I was up before the end of the working day. But I didn't know it was my pick until late evening.
 
:no:

Just time me out from here on. I don't need drama in a freaking free mock draft.

I'll check in eventually and make my make-up picks.

 
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renesauz said:
you PURPOSEFULLY IGNORED the rules.
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Incorrect. I didn't ignore the rules at all. The rules clearly account for what happens if you don't make your pick in the designated timeframe, and you were right there to make sure you got your pick in when it happened. I did expect clarification on the rules, but that's a different story. And I held up the draft far less than I could have. If I'd wanted, I could have picked at 11:50 last night, then had us waiting until 4pm today. Instead, I only delayed the draft overnight, and started it back up again at the start of the working day. I didn't get a PM from you after your pick, by the way, even though you said you had time to PM your next pick to Jeff just in case. I might have done things differently if I had realized I was up before the end of the working day. But I didn't know it was my pick until late evening.
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I'm pretty sure I did PM you, but just cleared my boxes and can't verify. If I didn't, then I apologize. Forgive me for beleiving that, based on your tone, actions, and statements, it probably wouldn't matter if I did one way or the other.It's pretty clear to me that you prefer to pretend you don't understand the clock rules for the turn. You have eight hours, period, for both picks. Time out on the first pick, you don't get a new clock. Make a pick at 7 hrs and 59 minutes..you don't get another eight hours for the second.

I know you understand that because you're a smart guy. You're being petty, and you're purposefully being difficult. Worse, you won your initial appeal, but are acting this way simply because not everybody agrees with you.

For what it's worth, I actually agreed with your initial protest, just not the intense over-reaction you displayed. But that's immaterial now, because you're still acting petty and childish.

O...and I made my pick last night, and PM'd Jeff to make his in order to get the draft moving, not to be mean.

 
Guys, 4 rounds left. We should be done quickly from here on out.

I'll let BNB clean up the timeout situation once he returns this weekend.

 
holy #### is this a cluster

i cant believe fred would make such a big deal over a free league just run for fun

 
Just woke up. If the pissing match wouldn't have happened, I probably would have been able to pick last night. Oh well.

17.05 Andre Davis

 
FUBAR said:
17.14 Mewelde Moore, PIT RB
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I was wondering when he was going to go. I have no idea how Pittsburgh's going to use him. Might be the steal fo the draft or get you zero points the whole season. Good pick in the late seventeenth
 
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FUBAR said:
17.14 Mewelde Moore, PIT RB
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I was wondering when he was going to go. I have no idea how Pittsburgh's going to use him. Might be the steal fo the draft or get you zero points the whole season. Good pick in the late seventeenth
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I figure I only need him for one week, when Edge and MJD are on a bye, anything I get is gravy.
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17.15 Kurt Warner, QB, ARI
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I'd been considering Warner for a LONG time now, potential top 10 QB is a steal here.
 
Just realized the last D left (Atlanta) shared the same bye as Philly.

Week 4 lose 3 of my top 4 RBs and 2 WRs

Week 6 lose both QBs

Week 7 lose both Ds

Week 9 lose WR1 and WR2

Gonna be a short year.

 
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