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People who draft now? (1 Viewer)
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
I have a draft tonight actually. 10 guys with jobs, kids, vacation plans. We aren't all nerds with no lives living at home waiting around to draft at the end of August.
You're posting in a FF forum my friend. You sir, are a nerd.Don't tell me tomrrow was the only date your 10 teams could agree on. I'm in 12 team leage full of lawyers, cpa's, executives etc. Multiple children, important careers, annoying wives and we agreed on the night before the season began. Nice try though.
Warrior
Footballguy
What is so difficult to understand?Yahoo/ESPN rankings aren't updated as frequently this time of year. Therefore, knowledgeable owners have the advantage, rather than everyone going from the same cookie-cutter Yahoo/ESPN default rankings. Early leagues are what separate the men from the boys, though there's also a bit more risk involved.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Absolutely, a lot of owners play in 10-20 leagues, you can't cram that in 2 days before the season. Most of the 1st 4-5 rounds are not going to change a lot. It's up to the individual owner where they want to risk a pick on ADP. There are no assurances and even when you have a perfect draft there is a terrible amount of luck involved so drafting now is no more dangerous than in late Aug IMO. As long as you have a pretty liberal waiver wire set up it really is not that big of a deal and actually adds to the strategy.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
MLB player in this league. Tough to coordinate the rest of our 9-5 jobs with his 7 o'clock start times every night. Why is this bothering you?
We Tigers
Footballguy
20-team IDP forum draft = need to start around now to get done before the season starts.
Also, it doesn't really matter that much. This topic comes up every year, and every year the answer is the same: everyone in a league is working with the same information regardless of when the draft takes place. I personally prefer to be close to the start of the season because having a clearer picture of positional battles and injuries is worth losing some "I know about this sleeper and you don't" potential--but I've drafted both ways, and it's never been a problem.
Also, it doesn't really matter that much. This topic comes up every year, and every year the answer is the same: everyone in a league is working with the same information regardless of when the draft takes place. I personally prefer to be close to the start of the season because having a clearer picture of positional battles and injuries is worth losing some "I know about this sleeper and you don't" potential--but I've drafted both ways, and it's never been a problem.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
We do two at a lake house each year, make a weekend out of it. We're doing them this weekend and next weekend rather than not at all because nothing else between now and week 1 works. Because we would rather do it too early and have two weekends at the lake.
My other two are the last weekend of August and sometime around Labor Day.
The draft is the best part of this game, if it needs to be a little early to make it happen then so be it. Positive, your sleepers are still sleeping - negative, susceptible to injury. Hell, I'm in a dyno league in which our entire off season is done in May and June - waivers are locked until the Monday before week 1. Variety is a good thing.
My other two are the last weekend of August and sometime around Labor Day.
The draft is the best part of this game, if it needs to be a little early to make it happen then so be it. Positive, your sleepers are still sleeping - negative, susceptible to injury. Hell, I'm in a dyno league in which our entire off season is done in May and June - waivers are locked until the Monday before week 1. Variety is a good thing.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
you have to play with smarts and savvy, and be active, and pay attention to everything if you're drafting now
if you want until the week before the season when all the training camp battles have happened, starters set etc .... hell what fun is there in that?
if you want until the week before the season when all the training camp battles have happened, starters set etc .... hell what fun is there in that?
butcher boy
Footballguy
If you do this year in and year out, wouldn't you know not to make too many plans at the end of August? I know some things are out of your control, but I always mark the last weekend of August, first weekend of September on my calendar as pretty much untouchable until I know the draft date.
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
Nothing more depressing than losing a player in preseason when there is money on the line. We are a bunch of 40+ guys with tight schedules so a few years back I decided that the draft is the 4th Saturday of each August no matter what. The only downside since implementing it was that we did average 11-12 guys at the live draft each year. Now we average 10-11. Always better when it can be 100% live but this method assures the party planning goes smooth each year.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Me? Yes. But there are 11 other people in my leagues.
I'm kind of on the "the field is level for everyone so why not?" side of this one. Although I personally like to wait till late August just so you can have a better feel for camp. The flipside though is that the smart owner that can identify the guy that's going to emerge, cough cough Ronnie Hillman, has the advantage. The flipside to the flipside is that a bad luck ACL tear in camp can ruin things before Week 1.
So bottom line is I'm good with both. Do what you want - it's your game.
J
So bottom line is I'm good with both. Do what you want - it's your game.
J
griff321
Footballguy
You don't get why people want to draft before every single unknown is revealed? You don't get why some people rather get a steal before the player is no longer a steal when every single fantasy football writer does a piece on them? Looks like you're the noob that has to rely on everyone else doing the work for you.
griff321
Footballguy
Is it any more depressing loosing a player in any week of the regular season? At least if it's in the preseason you still have a chance to rebound during the first waiver period.
rizzler
Footballguy
How about your first round pick tearing his ACL in practice?There's a million variables that can take place between the last preseason game and season's start.
butcher boy
Footballguy
It comes back to the topic of eliminating as much luck as possible from the game. Drafting early and having a random star RB blow out a hammy in a preseason game sucks and is preventable by drafting later. Drafting later rewards those who do research well into August rather than those who just buy a magazine and read it everytime they take a ####.
Warhogs
Footballguy
This. I hate that tone of those who flip their noses up at people that have an early draft. Get over yourself. It does not make you better that you draft the night before the season starts. I have no problem with early drafts. Yes, players will get hurt in preseason but they will in weeks 1-3 as well.
griff321
Footballguy
So if he blows out a hammy in week 1 that doesn't suck just as much?
rizzler
Footballguy
Im sure Tom Brady fans were thrilled a few yrs ago that he waited until week 1 to end his season.as long as he didnt do it in preseason, all was forgiven
griff321
Footballguy
Bath saltsIm sure Tom Brady fans were thrilled a few yrs ago that he waited until week 1 to end his season.as long as he didnt do it in preseason, all was forgiven
rizzler
Footballguy
Church!
I'm dying with anticipation at the first NFL'r who gets busted with the salts. You know it's gonna happen eventually.
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butcher boy
Footballguy
It does but that's not the point. By drafting later, you can at least avoid the preseason injuries and that itself is an advantage to drafting later. Nothing you can do about in-season injuries.
Typical guppy.Waaah, waaah, you cry, this game is too hard!
Sorry son, but I don't have to dumb down The Sport just so noobs like you have a chance at keeping up.
I play in a $4,000 entry, Super-WCOFF, triple-reverse, double down, mirror league with a modified PPFDR base 8 scoring system, and we just held our draft in June. For the 2016 season. You like Michael Eubank's chances with Arizona State? I drafted him after studying up on him, after he signed his letter of intent, last year. You think that maybe going with a WR in the first two rounds instead of back-to-back RBs is somehow new thinking in fantasy? Well, do you have the balls to do what I did this year when I didn't take my first RB until the sixth round (Derrick Green, Hermitage High School in Richmond)? You've probably never even heard of Ricky Seals-Jones, Marquez North, or Laquon Treadwell, yet not only did I draft them this year to form my future WR core, I've also started referring to them by fantasy board nicknames (RSJ1, The Great Black North, & Nitron Laquon). Hell, guys like you are going to be the poor schmucks who are searching this board five years from now for info on some great RB you just heard of out of the middle of the woods in Oregon, and the FBG search result box is going to come up with this very post, where I brag about nabbing Thomas Tyner of the Aloha Warriors at the 25.32/26.01 turn a full two months before he lit up Lincoln High for 191 yards/2 TDs or Tualatin for 295 rushing yards, a reception, & a TD. You'll be wondering about his durability and I'll remember a phone call I made back when you were just hearing the name "Trent Richardson" for the first time to the kid's doctor in Beaverton about the sprain he suffered in his left ankle in 2010.
Let me give you a tip, IT = INFO, and there's no "expires by" date on it.
PHILO
Johnny Blood
Footballguy
The later you hold the draft, the better for the noobs and bad players. The earlier you hold it the more separation in draft quality you'll have among the good and bad players.I don't understand the worry about preseason injuries. I mean, I understand that preseason games mean nothing, but it has no fantasy relevance. Players are subject to injury in preseason or the first week. If they get injured in preseason that is less damaging to your team because you didn't start them in a real game, unlike injuries during the real season. You're better off if your top pick gets hurt in preseason vs week one. Everyone is in the same boat so it makes no difference.I would love to hold our league's draft before preseason but the guppies won't have it.
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NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
I smell allot of free time
Waaah, waaah, you cry, this game is too hard!
Sorry son, but I don't have to dumb down The Sport just so noobs like you have a chance at keeping up.
I play in a $4,000 entry, Super-WCOFF, triple-reverse, double down, mirror league with a modified PPFDR base 8 scoring system, and we just held our draft in June. For the 2016 season. You like Michael Eubank's chances with Arizona State? I drafted him after studying up on him, after he signed his letter of intent, last year. You think that maybe going with a WR in the first two rounds instead of back-to-back RBs is somehow new thinking in fantasy? Well, do you have the balls to do what I did this year when I didn't take my first RB until the sixth round (Derrick Green, Hermitage High School in Richmond)? You've probably never even heard of Ricky Seals-Jones, Marquez North, or Laquon Treadwell, yet not only did I draft them this year to form my future WR core, I've also started referring to them by fantasy board nicknames (RSJ1, The Great Black North, & Nitron Laquon). Hell, guys like you are going to be the poor schmucks who are searching this board five years from now for info on some great RB you just heard of out of the middle of the woods in Oregon, and the FBG search result box is going to come up with this very post, where I brag about nabbing Thomas Tyner of the Aloha Warriors at the 25.32/26.01 turn a full two months before he lit up Lincoln High for 191 yards/2 TDs or Tualatin for 295 rushing yards, a reception, & a TD. You'll be wondering about his durability and I'll remember a phone call I made back when you were just hearing the name "Trent Richardson" for the first time to the kid's doctor in Beaverton about the sprain he suffered in his left ankle in 2010.
Let me give you a tip, IT = INFO, and there's no "expires by" date on it.
PHILO
butcher boy
Footballguy
Disagree. The "noobs" are the ones who bring magazines to the draft and draft based on the info inside it. The longer you delay the draft, the more the info in those magazines becomes obsolete, and the people who have done proper preseason research have an advantage.
habsfan
Footballguy
It's a perceived advantage not an actual one. Avoiding preseason injuries gives you no discernible advantage over the other owners in your league. Presumably they avoid preseason injuries too, don't they? If you think you are reducing "risk" by narrowing the span of your season, I suppose you are in theory but by that reasoning, why not have your league run from Week 3 to Week 6? You'll have way fewer injuries.
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Manster
Footballguy
gonna get a lot of different opinions on this one.
Personally, I like to draft right before the regular season. I like to see the pre-season before drafting. A lot of "stuff" happens in August. I guess if you want to draft now thats fine. To me it just seems too soon. To each their own. Like someone said in here, some guys are in 10-20 leagues, and are drafting all the time! I'm down to two money leagues that I like to take my time with, and gather info all through pre-season.
Theres no advantage one way or the other having an early or late draft. Information is everywhere and instantaneous. It's all how much you put into it, and quite a bit of luck sprinkled in.
Personally, I like to draft right before the regular season. I like to see the pre-season before drafting. A lot of "stuff" happens in August. I guess if you want to draft now thats fine. To me it just seems too soon. To each their own. Like someone said in here, some guys are in 10-20 leagues, and are drafting all the time! I'm down to two money leagues that I like to take my time with, and gather info all through pre-season.
Theres no advantage one way or the other having an early or late draft. Information is everywhere and instantaneous. It's all how much you put into it, and quite a bit of luck sprinkled in.
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Johnny Blood
Footballguy
That sounds very plausible. So I'll say, it helps noobs who get up to date rankings based on preseason performance. I think many fantasy players, especially younger ones, would never ever buy a magazine.
Obama is in my league- he couldn't draft in late August, so we're drafting this weekend
butcher boy
Footballguy
It's not an advantage over the other owners, it's advantageous to the whole league to draft later. I don't think anyone would agree that your league is made better when someone's first round pick tears an ACL. That team's owner might potentially lose interest, competition might be reduced, etc. By drafting later, you reduce the risk of this happening as much as you can.
griff321
Footballguy
If a team is garbage after loosing one player than they were guppies to begin with. Once again their is only a perceived advantage and not an actual one.
Banemorth
Footballguy
And MANLY Men have their rookie drafts before the NFL Draft! *flex*
griff321
Footballguy
This guy knows things.
habsfan
Footballguy
I understand that people feel more informed when they draft as late as possible but feeling like you've done "as much as you can" doesn't actually amount to anything. Losing your first round pick is impactful regardless of when it happens. You don't typically replace production like that - it's why they're first rounders.
I'm in a league with guys that have jobs, kids, weddings, AND an MLB player in it. And wouldn't you know, we're drafting tonight. Oh, wait, Grahamburn posted that. Nevermind.Bump ME.
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Pipes
Footballguy
You must not like dynasty leagues do you?
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Some people like to draft as late as possible and then when the seasons over they move on and forget about it until the next August. To me, that's treating FF like more of a seasonal past time vs a real hobby. And maybe that's fine for busier people. To me, and millions of others, it's a real hobby though. I want it to last for more than just 4 months of the year. I've got 20+ leagues with a mixture of dynasty's, keepers and redrafts. I participate in drafts from May to August. I like the early drafts because it makes it more of a year round activity. It gives me lots of time to manipulate my rosters and talk trades and all that fun stuff. And players can get injured at any time. Seriously, what difference does it make if your guy gets hurt in preseason or the 1st few weeks of the season? Quit being a condescending dork and try to understand other people's motivations.'ppierce said:
coolnerd
Footballguy
I give you much credit here. There are many who would acted like they could not compromise the player's privacy or something. Instead you named a borderline MLBer who was just claimed off waivers by the worst team in baseball two days ago. Stand up honestly.Steve Pearce, plays for the Astros. Came up with the Pirates, kinda bounced around this year though. One of the good kids from the neighborhood, if you will.'49er fan said:'gibfunk said:who's the MLB player?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
could somebody make this a poll so I can find out what month the important people draft in?
dollarbill13
Footballguy
I draft immediately after week 16. Everyone sets their lineup for the previous 16 weeks and then we count up the scores. Therefore it shows the true ability to practice VBD and completely eliminates luck.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
12 team, dynasty league, standard scoring, IDP
We do something unique for are annual four round rookie draft(s).
The first two rounds are typically done in early June a month or so after the NFL draft when everyone's blood is still high looking over the new talent.
Two rounds is deep enough to the point where everyone has to do some homework but shallow enough where anyone who isn't up on things can do reasonably well.
The last two rounds take place the week prior to the season, after camp and preseason so any under the radar guys who develop in camp and in preseason re-fill the talent pool a bit and really help out the guys who wound up drafting earlier in the rounds.
That way it keeps everyone in our league much more vigilant and keen to keep up on things over the course of the summer.
Very popular and we haven't had anyone drop from our league for five years sine we incorporated this unique two-part draft.
We do something unique for are annual four round rookie draft(s).
The first two rounds are typically done in early June a month or so after the NFL draft when everyone's blood is still high looking over the new talent.
Two rounds is deep enough to the point where everyone has to do some homework but shallow enough where anyone who isn't up on things can do reasonably well.
The last two rounds take place the week prior to the season, after camp and preseason so any under the radar guys who develop in camp and in preseason re-fill the talent pool a bit and really help out the guys who wound up drafting earlier in the rounds.
That way it keeps everyone in our league much more vigilant and keen to keep up on things over the course of the summer.
Very popular and we haven't had anyone drop from our league for five years sine we incorporated this unique two-part draft.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
This is how the true sharks do it. I'm currently in season six of a twenty year, 1990-2010 dynasty league. I think I'm going to try and hold on to Barry Sanders for one more season, then try to trade him for LaDainian Tomlinson.
