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People who work more than 60 hours a week (1 Viewer)
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El Floppo
Footballguy
My first job out of grad-school was for a famous guy in the field ("starchitect"). I worked 100+ hour weeks for most of a year and a half...became routine In a way, but otherworldly- in a perpetual zombie state of exhaustion. three years of Grad school wasn't any different, so I was used to it. I was also in my mid 20s and unattached.
My gb from college had a bar nearby, so I was there most nights after I left work (midnightish). And no surprise when I intentionally pared back the hours, I met my wife.
My gb from college had a bar nearby, so I was there most nights after I left work (midnightish). And no surprise when I intentionally pared back the hours, I met my wife.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I don't know how people do it. Even if you are making a #### ton of money, is it worth if you are never off and have time to enjoy it? I am salary, make good money, and sometimes drift into the 43-45 hours a week range, and even that seems like a lot, usually because a few extra hours means we are really busy. I managed to only do about 42 this week, but was extremely busy for most of them and was emotionally spent by the time I left the office a little after 5 today. If I did 60 hours a week with being that busy, I'd want to hang myself. No amount of money is worth that much constant stress and work.
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Otis
Footballguy
That’s the rub. Everyone’s calculus is different. For some people a lot of money is worth a lot of work.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Yep, I get it. Everyone is wired differently. I could see wanting to work those hours when I was younger to make fat stacks, but I am in my mid 40's now and working myself to death just doesn't sound appealing. But that's me.
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Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
And to everyone a lot of money is a different number. I'm fine working 60-70 hours. I work a lot of it between 6 - 10 am, and then 6 pm - midnight. And 6 - 7 days a week. It's hard to run a business and not work a lot of hours. There is still plenty of time to have fun, and the $s to have that fun the right way.
It's not for everyone. But I've been the $120K/year 45 hour a week guy. Wasn't for me. Too much dead time.
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Insoxicated
I probably am at my home office desk 10-20 hours a week. Answer emails on my phone for 30-45 mins first thing in the morning (~6am).
Rest of the time I'm cleaning, cooking, working out, playing MLB The Show (1-2 games a day), doing yardwork, out running errands, at a restaurant having a bite or drinks.
Sometimes chunks of those 10-20 hours are "work from the bar" days. Laptop open and a couple pints on a patio somewhere.
Just had my midyear review and crushed it. Boss thinks I'm slammed (6am and 8pm emails help with that) because productivity is highest on our team.
There is a LOT to be said for efficiency, IMO.
(Job dependent of course)
Rest of the time I'm cleaning, cooking, working out, playing MLB The Show (1-2 games a day), doing yardwork, out running errands, at a restaurant having a bite or drinks.
Sometimes chunks of those 10-20 hours are "work from the bar" days. Laptop open and a couple pints on a patio somewhere.
Just had my midyear review and crushed it. Boss thinks I'm slammed (6am and 8pm emails help with that) because productivity is highest on our team.
There is a LOT to be said for efficiency, IMO.
(Job dependent of course)
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El Floppo
Footballguy
So true.
For me, it was that cool 33k/year. And when spread to 100hr/week, equalled about $2.98/hr
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I was in a Reporting role at Shell Oil for the second half of my career. We always had a ton of deadlines and I provided analysis to the top executives. I worked 60-80 hours a week with all kinds of crazy deadlines and meetings in the middle of the night (international company). Not to mention, I had to be available on the weekends in case the CEO needed any info/analysis. In some weird way, I got off on the adrenaline rush of it all.
Then we had a major reorganization where they were cutting a lot of jobs and I had to apply for a new job. If you didn't get a job, you had six months to find one or you were laid off. I had a really good reputation, so I got a job on my first try. Unfortunately it was another Reporting supporting the head of North America. I was working 80 hours a week under intense pressure. One week I had to work 90 hours and I thought to myself: God, I wish i had gotten laid off a few months ago. Then a few months later after the disaster of unsuccessfully trying to explore in Alaska, they got rid of the head of North America and his entire dept had to find a job. I told them that I didn't want to find another job. I was tired of these crazy hours. I stayed on for one more year and I early retired at 50 years old. Three years later I'm still retired, but who knows. I was definitely burnt out after all those years of long hours and not being able to go on vacation because there was always some deadline.
I probably should have been more protective of my free time, but the company culture in my opinion was if you didn't put in the those kinds of hours, you didn't get promoted. I was willing to do it in my 30s and 40s, but I reached my limit as I got older.
Then we had a major reorganization where they were cutting a lot of jobs and I had to apply for a new job. If you didn't get a job, you had six months to find one or you were laid off. I had a really good reputation, so I got a job on my first try. Unfortunately it was another Reporting supporting the head of North America. I was working 80 hours a week under intense pressure. One week I had to work 90 hours and I thought to myself: God, I wish i had gotten laid off a few months ago. Then a few months later after the disaster of unsuccessfully trying to explore in Alaska, they got rid of the head of North America and his entire dept had to find a job. I told them that I didn't want to find another job. I was tired of these crazy hours. I stayed on for one more year and I early retired at 50 years old. Three years later I'm still retired, but who knows. I was definitely burnt out after all those years of long hours and not being able to go on vacation because there was always some deadline.
I probably should have been more protective of my free time, but the company culture in my opinion was if you didn't put in the those kinds of hours, you didn't get promoted. I was willing to do it in my 30s and 40s, but I reached my limit as I got older.
the moops
Footballguy
What does dead time mean? Like you didn't have enough things to occupy your time while not working?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Yep, which is why when the expectation was clearly shifting towards a number closer to 60 than 40 I got the #### out.
MAC_32
Footballguy
This is what is appealing to me about WFH. I already have my Monday work assignment done. I have the draft prepared in my email. And I don't intend to hit send until late in the day Monday. There are a couple of emails I'm ignoring right now that I will respond to when I log-in Monday morning. Then I'll do my Tuesday assignment, which shouldn't take more than an hour or two. If something urgent comes in during the day I'll be sure to find some time to get to it. Otherwise I'll just respond after I finally hit send on that saved draft. Then hopefully I can repeat that process on Tuesday.
Not many days have been like that since covid, but our office world is starting to stabilize so I think that may change over the next few weeks.
dkp993
Footballguy
It’s also industry dependent. In some industry is the only way to make a lot of money is to work your ### off. Changing industries isn’t an option for a lot of us who have spent our lives in one.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
I'm looking like an animal ever since wfh billing 50-60hrs a week. I work in spurts so being able to hop on the computer whenever no I want is great. Also, there is a difference between working and billing. If I bill 50 probably anywhere from 30-40 hours of actual work.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I admit I work a crapload during the week, and will often get on late at night for an hour. But Saturdays and Sundays are mine.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
trader jake
Footballguy
Not when they can have one person willing to give themself an ulcer to get the job done. Unless she owns the business, is on track to be a partner, or is getting paid an obscene amount of money this seems like the exact type of job to avoid.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
There are certain things that have a minimum hourly bill out that I can get done very fast.
TLEF316
Footballguy
This. They're getting a hell of a deal now paying one person to do the work of 3. Why would they change?
Unfortunately she's probably now put herself in a situation where she'll be considered a slacker if she dials it back to normal speed.
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
