Jetznut674
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I couldn’t find any posts on here about this recent news. I have collected for many decades. Thankfully most of my collection I obtained in person.
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Perhaps could be the largest sports memorabilia scam in history!! (1 Viewer)
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Doesn’t surprise me in the least. Sports memorabilia and cards have been scammy for a long time but nobody seems to care as long as it’s authenticated by somebody and can be passed along. I mean the most famous, valuable card in history is a trim job. There’s entire website threads dedicated to before and after pics of PSA graded cards. Cards examined by AI and computers as being the same card, once in a PSA 5 holder, trimmed, touched up etc and now in a 9. I just assumed autos and jerseys etc were just as bad if not more so.
Jetznut674
Footballguy
Yeah its too early to tell and think he exaggerated his numbers in his final manifesto but still dealt a blow to the industry. But to your point unfortunately there always has been and will be bad apples when the potential is there to make a lot of money. Makes you wonder how many of these other forgery rings are out there. More importantly how many dealers and the large companies just ignored it?
FairWarning
Footballguy
It should make for a interesting National Convention in three weeks.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
The price of an autograph is nuts to me. I mean it's crazy, for what? Look at me, I'm 50 and got this other man's name on paper. Sorry, cardboard. And no disrespect to cocktail napkins.
Feces might be more valuable, with a DNA authentication stamp of approval. Yep, that TP smear is in fact, "from" Gary Anderson, it's real!
Wait, why not hair while we're at it? Hair got screwed in all this. Hair should be where it's at. Super easy. Clean. Authentic. And keeps coming for the most part. Jordan hair would be going up like Krypto with such limited supplies remaining. Tiger too, would be taking off like Nvidia.
I wonder if pubic hair would go for more? I think it would.
Feces might be more valuable, with a DNA authentication stamp of approval. Yep, that TP smear is in fact, "from" Gary Anderson, it's real!
Wait, why not hair while we're at it? Hair got screwed in all this. Hair should be where it's at. Super easy. Clean. Authentic. And keeps coming for the most part. Jordan hair would be going up like Krypto with such limited supplies remaining. Tiger too, would be taking off like Nvidia.
I wonder if pubic hair would go for more? I think it would.
fatness
Footballguy
I can honestly say I've never thought of these things.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Me neither, try it out. The price of a primate's scribbling.
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Statorama
Footballguy
I only have a few autographs from Spring Training, and to me the stories about getting them always shine brighter than the autograph itself.
Loved talking with Bob Feller about World War 2 for 10 minutes during a Cleveland cactus league game. Or seeing the puzzled face of Bill Buckner as he signs a ball that encourages my Roto Baseball teams name. Or having a laugh with Lee Smith about small towns in Louisiana.
But going into a store and buying an autograph? Not for me.
Loved talking with Bob Feller about World War 2 for 10 minutes during a Cleveland cactus league game. Or seeing the puzzled face of Bill Buckner as he signs a ball that encourages my Roto Baseball teams name. Or having a laugh with Lee Smith about small towns in Louisiana.
But going into a store and buying an autograph? Not for me.
nirad3
Footballguy
I own a lock of Tim Tebow's hair. Not joking.
FairWarning
Footballguy
I used to bid on the old Teletrade auctions, good times.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
once met Joe D at a celebrity golf tourney and he signed the brochure. still got it. that's enough for me.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Shocked
Im sure the next reveal is the grading scam
Im sure the next reveal is the grading scam
Jetznut674
Footballguy
One of the biggest rackets going. It’s a cash grab for most of these companies. “So called experts” who are giving an opinion.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Does this mean my starting lineups are worth something now?
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Fat Nick
Footballguy
I have a big card collection, but only 2 autographs with any real value. I'm just not a fan because unless I get them myself, they don't really hold any meaning. The two I have are more niche anyway - A Cal Ripken Rookie auto'ed by him that I bought as a kid, which is cool now because he won't sign his rookie card any more (contractual obligation with Fanatics), and a Bob Feller card auto'ed by him that I have because I collect Feller, and have another card that he once owned personally.
When I go to the big card shows with my son, it amazes me how many people will stand in line for hours for a quick autograph. It doesn't surprise me at all that there are autograph scams. Too many "letters of authenticity" with no provenance. I'm supposed to believe they signed it because there is a printed certificate from "Jim Bob's Verification Warehouse," signed by Jim Bob himself? Pass.
When I go to the big card shows with my son, it amazes me how many people will stand in line for hours for a quick autograph. It doesn't surprise me at all that there are autograph scams. Too many "letters of authenticity" with no provenance. I'm supposed to believe they signed it because there is a printed certificate from "Jim Bob's Verification Warehouse," signed by Jim Bob himself? Pass.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I’m convinced more than half the pre 60s cards in 9 (mint) holders are trimmed. I used to collect a lot in the 80s. Went to all the shows, auctions, everything and you never saw mint 50s cards and older. Now every big auction has multiples of the same card.
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