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Peter Jackson to make The Hobbit (2 Viewers)

And, where did you hear, or read, that Strobel was "misleading"? Let me guess, a special on The Discovery Channel?
It fits the description when Strobel tries to pass of his experts as scientific experts when they're anything but.
And, why not touch the prophetic accuracies of the Bible? The Bible is perfect so give it a try.
Pick a prophecy.
How about any one of the Messianic prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.
Any one will do. Go ahead. You choose.
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
The Hobbit SUCKS! Tolken Sucks!
 
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
First question... How can 22:18 be classified as a propehcy in the first place? Nowhere does it talk about soldiers gambling for Jesus' clothes.It was written by King David as a description of his own condition and not one presaging a messiah.

Here's a decent article talking about how the Christian Bible took the original Jewish verse and twisted it to fit the messiah story, where it doesn't belong.

 
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And, where did you hear, or read, that Strobel was "misleading"? Let me guess, a special on The Discovery Channel?
It fits the description when Strobel tries to pass of his experts as scientific experts when they're anything but.
And, why not touch the prophetic accuracies of the Bible? The Bible is perfect so give it a try.
Pick a prophecy.
How about any one of the Messianic prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.
Any one will do. Go ahead. You choose.
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
The Hobbit SUCKS! Tolken Sucks!
that's quite a convincing argument you have.. what exactly didn't you like about the book(s)?
 
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
First question... How can 22:18 be classified as a propehcy in the first place? Nowhere does it talk about soldiers gambling for Jesus' clothes.It was written by King David as a description of his own condition and not one presaging a messiah.

Here's a decent article talking about how the Christian Bible took the original Jewish verse and twisted it to fit the messiah story, where it doesn't belong.
First off, King James did not write one word of the Bible. He wanted his own English version of the Bible and had a huge array of translators work on this project. Second, to "cast lots" is to gamble - 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

This verse reads exactly the same in the Jewish Bible, which was NOT written nor translated by King James. By the way, the Book of Psalms was originally written by David in Hebrew.

Come on, YOU can do better than that.......

 
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
First question... How can 22:18 be classified as a propehcy in the first place? Nowhere does it talk about soldiers gambling for Jesus' clothes.It was written by King David as a description of his own condition and not one presaging a messiah.

Here's a decent article talking about how the Christian Bible took the original Jewish verse and twisted it to fit the messiah story, where it doesn't belong.
First off, King James did not write one word of the Bible. He wanted his own English version of the Bible and had a huge array of translators work on this project. Second, to "cast lots" is to gamble - 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

This verse reads exactly the same in the Jewish Bible, which was NOT written nor translated by King James. By the way, the Book of Psalms was originally written by David in Hebrew.

Come on, YOU can do better than that.......
I didn't say anything about King James. I specifically said that it was written my King David.You know what? This isn't going to be a whole lot of fun for either of us, just like it's been no fun for either side for centuries.

You go ahead believing and I'll continue not. :hifie:

gllllll peas

 
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Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
First question... How can 22:18 be classified as a propehcy in the first place? Nowhere does it talk about soldiers gambling for Jesus' clothes.It was written by King David as a description of his own condition and not one presaging a messiah.

Here's a decent article talking about how the Christian Bible took the original Jewish verse and twisted it to fit the messiah story, where it doesn't belong.
First off, King James did not write one word of the Bible. He wanted his own English version of the Bible and had a huge array of translators work on this project. Second, to "cast lots" is to gamble - 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

This verse reads exactly the same in the Jewish Bible, which was NOT written nor translated by King James. By the way, the Book of Psalms was originally written by David in Hebrew.

Come on, YOU can do better than that.......
I didn't say anything about King James. I specifically said that it was written my King David.You know what? This isn't going to be a whole lot of fun for either of us, just like it's been no fun for either side for centuries.

You go ahead believing and I'll continue not. :hifie:

gllllll peas
Yes, you are correct. I misread your post. But, to me, debating these issues is always fun.
 
And, where did you hear, or read, that Strobel was "misleading"? Let me guess, a special on The Discovery Channel?
It fits the description when Strobel tries to pass of his experts as scientific experts when they're anything but.
And, why not touch the prophetic accuracies of the Bible? The Bible is perfect so give it a try.
Pick a prophecy.
How about any one of the Messianic prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.
Any one will do. Go ahead. You choose.
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
The Hobbit SUCKS! Tolken Sucks!
that's quite a convincing argument you have.. what exactly didn't you like about the book(s)?
Um, that they suck?
 
Andy - wait a second. You're telling us that LOTR was dry and boring, yet you take your name from a character in perhaps the most boring movie of all time?

Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy lock the guard out of the office and play opera! Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy surreptitiously dump his cell wall in the prison yard! Whoopee!! May is a damned fine month to be working outdoors! Whoopee!! Let’s get paroled and walk down some country road and find a cigar box under a rock that has no earthly business being in a Maine hayfield!!!

Come on now. If LOTR isn’t your bag that’s cool, but let’s be reasonable here. :goodposting:

For the record, I LOVE Shawshank. Just funnin' with ya.

 
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Power Monster - I'm so Christian I crap crosses, and I could quote you pages and pages of the Lord of the Rings at a time, I know those books so well.

You, sir, are WAAAAAY off on your List of Things to be Concerned About.

 
Andy - wait a second. You're telling us that LOTR was dry and boring, yet you take your name from a character in perhaps the most boring movie of all time? Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy lock the guard out of the office and play opera! Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy surreptitiously dump his cell wall in the prison yard! Whoopee!! May is a damned fine month to be working outdoors! Whoopee!! Let’s get paroled and walk down some country road and find a cigar box under a rock that has no earthly business being in a Maine hayfield!!! Come on now. If LOTR isn’t your bag that’s cool, but let’s be reasonable here. :lmao: For the record, I LOVE Shawshank. Just funnin' with ya.
Shawshank is boring in parts too. But then it never professed to being an action movie.I haven't watched it in probably 5 years.
 
It's one of those movies that whenever it's on, I stop what I'm doing and watch. I have it on DVR right now. It's just awesome.

Great nym, btw. He really is a great character.

 
Andy - wait a second. You're telling us that LOTR was dry and boring, yet you take your name from a character in perhaps the most boring movie of all time? Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy lock the guard out of the office and play opera! Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy surreptitiously dump his cell wall in the prison yard! Whoopee!! May is a damned fine month to be working outdoors! Whoopee!! Let’s get paroled and walk down some country road and find a cigar box under a rock that has no earthly business being in a Maine hayfield!!! Come on now. If LOTR isn’t your bag that’s cool, but let’s be reasonable here. :thumbup: For the record, I LOVE Shawshank. Just funnin' with ya.
I'll say this for Shawshank: The fact that you can reel off distinct scenes in which different (important) events occurred that forwarded the narrative says something. There are numerous scenes in the LOTR movies where not much happens.
 
Frostillicus said:
militiaman65 said:
Or, maybe I should show how the Bible has not been wrong yet? Like the fulfilment of prophecy? Like how Jesus fulfilled 48 Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah, including when and where He would be born?
Go for it.
I just made up a story about a guy who fufilled 49 of the Old Testament prophecies. He told me that Jesus sucked compared to him, then he turned water into Cristal.
 
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militiaman65 said:
Andy Dufresne said:
militiaman65 said:
Andy Dufresne said:
militiaman65 said:
And, where did you hear, or read, that Strobel was "misleading"? Let me guess, a special on The Discovery Channel?
It fits the description when Strobel tries to pass of his experts as scientific experts when they're anything but.
militiaman65 said:
And, why not touch the prophetic accuracies of the Bible? The Bible is perfect so give it a try.
Pick a prophecy.
How about any one of the Messianic prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.
Any one will do. Go ahead. You choose.
Here's an easy one, Psalms 22:18 (written about 1000 years prior to the crucifixtion) speaks of the gambling for Jesus' clothing. Matt 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23,24 show that this happened.
Hulk 22:23:24 shows that this happened to the guy I made up after he was crucified. PS, my guy only took 2 days to rise from the dead!
 
snitwitch said:
knapplc said:
Andy - wait a second. You're telling us that LOTR was dry and boring, yet you take your name from a character in perhaps the most boring movie of all time? Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy lock the guard out of the office and play opera! Whoopee!! Let's watch Andy surreptitiously dump his cell wall in the prison yard! Whoopee!! May is a damned fine month to be working outdoors! Whoopee!! Let’s get paroled and walk down some country road and find a cigar box under a rock that has no earthly business being in a Maine hayfield!!! Come on now. If LOTR isn’t your bag that’s cool, but let’s be reasonable here. :unsure: For the record, I LOVE Shawshank. Just funnin' with ya.
I'll say this for Shawshank: The fact that you can reel off distinct scenes in which different (important) events occurred that forwarded the narrative says something. There are numerous scenes in the LOTR movies where not much happens.
I hear this Shawshank movie is witchcraft warping young minds!!!
 
militiaman65 said:
Or, maybe I should show how the Bible has not been wrong yet? Like the fulfilment of prophecy? Like how Jesus fulfilled 48 Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah, including when and where He would be born?
Update?
 
I have a feeling I'll like this better than LOTR. Obviously the LOTR books were much better but I think this will translate better to the screen.

 
Sorry, I stopped reading this thread after the first Power Monster post, so I am unsure if this was brought up, but, do we really need 2 more movies about walking?

 
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The Hobbit has a director!

Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Thursday January 31, 2008

No small challenge ... Guillermo del Toro is to direct two Hobbit films. Photograph: Sarah Lee

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
Link
 
The Hobbit has a director!

Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Thursday January 31, 2008

No small challenge ... Guillermo del Toro is to direct two Hobbit films. Photograph: Sarah Lee

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
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If he can do with the Hobbit what he did with Pan's Labryinth, I'd be very impressed. That is a truly great piece of work. I don't understand though why at the video rental place, you need to be 18 to rent Pan's Labryinth. No nudity to speak of and the violence is no worse than any number of movies.
 
The Hobbit has a director!

Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Thursday January 31, 2008

No small challenge ... Guillermo del Toro is to direct two Hobbit films. Photograph: Sarah Lee

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
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I really thought PJ would cave and direct this himself, but all things considered, I can't think of a better director than del Toro. Way better than the Sam Raimi talk that was going around.The look-and-feel will still be determined by the machinery PJ put in place for the first three movies.

 
The Hobbit has a director!

Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Thursday January 31, 2008

No small challenge ... Guillermo del Toro is to direct two Hobbit films. Photograph: Sarah Lee

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
Link
If he can do with the Hobbit what he did with Pan's Labryinth, I'd be very impressed. That is a truly great piece of work. I don't understand though why at the video rental place, you need to be 18 to rent Pan's Labryinth. No nudity to speak of and the violence is no worse than any number of movies.
Probably because dumb parents would rent it for their six year old thinking it's a "fairy tale" movie. I like the choice of Del Toro. He should do a great job with The Hobbit.

 
The Hobbit has a director!

Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Thursday January 31, 2008

No small challenge ... Guillermo del Toro is to direct two Hobbit films. Photograph: Sarah Lee

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
Link
If he can do with the Hobbit what he did with Pan's Labryinth, I'd be very impressed. That is a truly great piece of work. I don't understand though why at the video rental place, you need to be 18 to rent Pan's Labryinth. No nudity to speak of and the violence is no worse than any number of movies.
Probably because dumb parents would rent it for their six year old thinking it's a "fairy tale" movie. I like the choice of Del Toro. He should do a great job with The Hobbit.
Maybe, that scene with the wine bottle ought to shake any notions of that out of their heads though. :football:
 
The Hobbit has a director!

Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Thursday January 31, 2008

No small challenge ... Guillermo del Toro is to direct two Hobbit films. Photograph: Sarah Lee

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
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25 months later and we still are in pre-production.
 
"The Hobbit" has been greenlit and will start production in February, an individual close to the production has told TheWrap.

As TheWrap reported previously, Peter Jackson has agreed to direct the film in addition to producing and writing the two-part project.

In the agreement completed this week, Jackson's deal was finalized and MGM and Warner Brothers agreed to give the project its long-awaited greenlight.

The greenlight means that millions of global fans for the revered J.R.R. Tolkien property can look forward to a prequel to "The Lord of the Rings," which was one of the most successful movie franchises in movie history.

Photo Slideshow: Faces of 'The Hobbit' Movie - From Bilbo to Gandalf >>

Jackson was already on board to write and produce "The Hobbit." But because of financial turmoil at MGM, which owns half of the franchise together with Warners' New Line Cinema, the project became one of the most torturous in Hollywood history.

Sets have already been built in New Zealand, and actors - including Sir Ian McKellan - have been on hold for months.

Martin Freeman has been rumored to play Bilbo Baggins.

With the logjam finally broken, production will begin in February.

Read More: 'Dr. Who' Says He's in Talks for 'Hobbit' >>

However, the individual said that labor issues related to the production have still not been resolved, and negotiations will continue with the Screen Actors Guild. The union flap involves whether the production would use Screen Actors Guild members or not.

About $30 million has already been spent on the project, the first part of which is scheduled to hit theaters Dec. 19, 2012.

But Warner Brothers was wary about moving ahead at the risk that an agreement with MGM may not hold up over time.

At MGM, the decision about greenlighting "The Hobbit," a $400 million, back-to-back production of two films, has been hanging between CEO Stephen Cooper, owners-in-waiting Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum of Spyglass Productions and the creditors committee at MGM.

Read More: Why Martin Freeman Would Be a Poor Bilbo in 'The Hobbit' >>

Spyglass has signed a letter of intent to give the production company 4-5 percent ownership of MGM in exchange for taking over the company's management. That deal would entail a prepackaged bankruptcy, under the supervision of the judge and with the accord of the studio's debtors and investors.

But just this week, takeover king Carl Icahn threw his weight behind an alternate plan, to have Lionsgate merge with MGM instead. Icahn owns 30% of Lionsgate, and about 10% of MGM's debt.

So that outcome remains in flux, with a vote pending by MGM debtholder on October 22.

 
Martin Freeman (UK "The Office") as Bilbo Baggins

Richard Armitage ("Spooks") as Thorin Oakenshield, Dwarf leader

Aidan Turner ("Being Human") as Kili

Rob Kazinsky ("EastEnders") as Fili

Graham McTavish (Secretariat) as Dwalin

John Callen ("Power Rangers Jungle Fury") as Oin

Stephen Hunter ("All Saints") as Bombur

Mark Hadlow (King Kong) as Dori

Peter Hambleton ("The Strip") as Gloin

 
More casting news has come out with many familiar faces..

Ian McKellen is back as Gandalf

Andy Serkis is back as Gollum

Elijah Wood is back as Frodo

Wood will be used in a very early scene in the movie to provide a link to the Rings trilogy. It may be something as simple as he starts to read Bilbo's "There and Back Again" book. In a cool rumor, Ian Holm may also reprise his role as the elder Bilbo in the early scene with Wood.

Cate Blanchette(Galadrial) and Hugo Weaving(Elrond) are strongly rumored to also have a parts in the two movie Hobbit. Orlando Bloom has also been mentioned but no one can yet figure out how Jackson will encorporate Legolas into the Hobbit.

 
More casting news has come out with many familiar faces..

Ian McKellen is back as Gandalf

Andy Serkis is back as Gollum

Elijah Wood is back as Frodo

Wood will be used in a very early scene in the movie to provide a link to the Rings trilogy. It may be something as simple as he starts to read Bilbo's "There and Back Again" book. In a cool rumor, Ian Holm may also reprise his role as the elder Bilbo in the early scene with Wood.

Cate Blanchette(Galadrial) and Hugo Weaving(Elrond) are strongly rumored to also have a parts in the two movie Hobbit. Orlando Bloom has also been mentioned but no one can yet figure out how Jackson will encorporate Legolas into the Hobbit.
If I remember correctly Legolas was a son of the Mirkwood elven king so it would be pretty easy to work him in at least in a cameo type appearence.
 
More casting news has come out with many familiar faces..

Ian McKellen is back as Gandalf

Andy Serkis is back as Gollum

Elijah Wood is back as Frodo

Wood will be used in a very early scene in the movie to provide a link to the Rings trilogy. It may be something as simple as he starts to read Bilbo's "There and Back Again" book. In a cool rumor, Ian Holm may also reprise his role as the elder Bilbo in the early scene with Wood.

Cate Blanchette(Galadrial) and Hugo Weaving(Elrond) are strongly rumored to also have a parts in the two movie Hobbit. Orlando Bloom has also been mentioned but no one can yet figure out how Jackson will encorporate Legolas into the Hobbit.
If I remember correctly Legolas was a son of the Mirkwood elven king so it would be pretty easy to work him in at least in a cameo type appearence.
Yep. Bloom could make an appearance while the drawves are in the dungeons, then another at the Battle of 5 Armies.
 
More casting news has come out with many familiar faces..

Ian McKellen is back as Gandalf

Andy Serkis is back as Gollum

Elijah Wood is back as Frodo

Wood will be used in a very early scene in the movie to provide a link to the Rings trilogy. It may be something as simple as he starts to read Bilbo's "There and Back Again" book. In a cool rumor, Ian Holm may also reprise his role as the elder Bilbo in the early scene with Wood.

Cate Blanchette(Galadrial) and Hugo Weaving(Elrond) are strongly rumored to also have a parts in the two movie Hobbit. Orlando Bloom has also been mentioned but no one can yet figure out how Jackson will encorporate Legolas into the Hobbit.
If I remember correctly Legolas was a son of the Mirkwood elven king so it would be pretty easy to work him in at least in a cameo type appearence.
That makes some good sense. I don't get the feeling it is going to be an important role (since Legolas was not in the Hobbitt) but your suggestions would fit nicely I think.I really love the idea of Wood and Holm starting off the movie. I hope they can convince Holm to do the cameo.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Charlie Frown said:
NewlyRetired said:
More casting news has come out with many familiar faces..

Ian McKellen is back as Gandalf

Andy Serkis is back as Gollum

Elijah Wood is back as Frodo

Wood will be used in a very early scene in the movie to provide a link to the Rings trilogy. It may be something as simple as he starts to read Bilbo's "There and Back Again" book. In a cool rumor, Ian Holm may also reprise his role as the elder Bilbo in the early scene with Wood.

Cate Blanchette(Galadrial) and Hugo Weaving(Elrond) are strongly rumored to also have a parts in the two movie Hobbit. Orlando Bloom has also been mentioned but no one can yet figure out how Jackson will encorporate Legolas into the Hobbit.
If I remember correctly Legolas was a son of the Mirkwood elven king so it would be pretty easy to work him in at least in a cameo type appearence.
That makes some good sense. I don't get the feeling it is going to be an important role (since Legolas was not in the Hobbitt) but your suggestions would fit nicely I think.I really love the idea of Wood and Holm starting off the movie. I hope they can convince Holm to do the cameo.
As an homage to the old Rankin and Bass Return of the King cartoon...maybe they are going to start it like that...
 

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