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there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?

there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?

Any more news about Morgan Freeman?Sweet!!!Christopher Lee has just announced that he would be willing to reprise his role of Saruman if his health holds. Not sure if producers will take the risk as Lee is 88 years old now.
Sure there were, the bad guys from the East that sided with Sauron. They brought the elephants to the fight. I think some of the corsairs Aragorn battled were also black. It was a very diversified place.there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?![]()
no female ents.Sure there were, the bad guys from the East that sided with Sauron. They brought the elephants to the fight. I think some of the corsairs Aragorn battled were also black. It was a very diversified place.there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?![]()
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You didn't see the one with the big knot hole?no female ents.Sure there were, the bad guys from the East that sided with Sauron. They brought the elephants to the fight. I think some of the corsairs Aragorn battled were also black. It was a very diversified place.there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?![]()
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yep- how do you tink fire was invented in Middle Earth...You didn't see the one with the big knot hole?no female ents.Sure there were, the bad guys from the East that sided with Sauron. They brought the elephants to the fight. I think some of the corsairs Aragorn battled were also black. It was a very diversified place.there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?![]()
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Well played.You're still a tool but well played.You didn't see the one with the big knot hole?no female ents.Sure there were, the bad guys from the East that sided with Sauron. They brought the elephants to the fight. I think some of the corsairs Aragorn battled were also black. It was a very diversified place.there are no blacks in middle earth.Wait- is it just me, or does it look like Morgan Freeman is playing the part?![]()
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Peter Jackson lost a ton of weight. Good for him.
Highly unlikelyAny chance someone takes on the Silmarillion?
The Hobbit is the story before LOTR.So I'm not really into the whole story but I did see the LOTR trilogy a few years ago. What is the Hobbit in relation to those movies?
Backstory on the one ring and how it came into a hobbits possession.Highly unlikely:(Any chance someone takes on the Silmarillion?
The Hobbit is the story before LOTR.So I'm not really into the whole story but I did see the LOTR trilogy a few years ago. What is the Hobbit in relation to those movies?
Oh, ok. That's cool...thx!Backstory on the one ring and how it came into a hobbits possession.Highly unlikely:(Any chance someone takes on the Silmarillion?
The Hobbit is the story before LOTR.So I'm not really into the whole story but I did see the LOTR trilogy a few years ago. What is the Hobbit in relation to those movies?
It should be noted that the ring is a very minor part in the Hobbit. It won't be known for decades after The Hobbit ends that the ring is the One Ring.Oh, ok. That's cool...thx!Backstory on the one ring and how it came into a hobbits possession.Highly unlikely:(Any chance someone takes on the Silmarillion?
The Hobbit is the story before LOTR.So I'm not really into the whole story but I did see the LOTR trilogy a few years ago. What is the Hobbit in relation to those movies?
Looks awesome. Remind me again -- is The Hobbit movie going to be a two-parter? If so, I wonder where this one ends. Maybe with Bilbo getting away from Gollum with the Ring?
IMDB LinkYawwwn, sequelitis strikes again.Hey Hollywood, how long'd it take you to come up with yet another unnecessary backstory?! Do we really need to go with Frodo's dad on his quest to find the ring?I bet they'll dumb it down and make it all kiddy too. Hard R or I ain't watchin!How much you wanna bet they'll figure out a way to shoehorn half-a-dozen giant spiders to compete with the one they had in LOTR2.

Good to see that Beorn is going to be in this version, unlike the old animated movie.But The Hobbit has Beorn, who I always thought was a kick-### character.Bombadil is in LOTR.Ok, Hobbits... the character Tom Bombadil (sp?)- in the Hobbit or LOTR?
Good to see that Beorn is going to be in this version, unlike the old animated movie.But The Hobbit has Beorn, who I always thought was a kick-### character.Bombadil is in LOTR.Ok, Hobbits... the character Tom Bombadil (sp?)- in the Hobbit or LOTR?
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legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
I think that's the role that Legolas is playing. Also, I'd expect the ring to be a much bigger part of this film than the book. Can't wait for it to come out.legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
Legolas was a prince at the time of The Fellowship of the Ring. Similar in stature and lineage to Boromir who represented Gondor as son of the Stweard of Gondor.legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
Thanks, that appears to make the most sense.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
I can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
legolas greenleaf was a 'lesser' wood elven prince. there were billions of noldorian 'high' elves in rivendell at the time of the council. it was odd that he was selected to defend all of middle earth from evil.boromir was the heir to the stewardship of gondor and considered the second most powerful human in middle earth. (aragorn was in exile and had not claimed the kingship yet)Legolas was a prince at the time of The Fellowship of the Ring. Similar in stature and lineage to Boromir who represented Gondor as son of the Stweard of Gondor.legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
[tolkien nerd]I think 'high' elves were those who had been to Valinor and returned to Middle Earth during the Wars against Morgoth and for the silmarils. Not many of them likely remained at the time of LOTR (Galadriel, Celeborn, Cirdan, Elrond, Gildor Inglorion, Glorfindel were the only named ones).Regardless, I agree that Legolas showing up was rather strange - as the elves of Mirkwood were very different from those of Rivendell/Gray Havens/Lothlorien and it seemed out of character for any of them to care about the happenings elsewhere.[/tolkien nerd]legolas greenleaf was a 'lesser' wood elven prince. there were billions of noldorian 'high' elves in rivendell at the time of the council. it was odd that he was selected to defend all of middle earth from evil.boromir was the heir to the stewardship of gondor and considered the second most powerful human in middle earth. (aragorn was in exile and had not claimed the kingship yet)Legolas was a prince at the time of The Fellowship of the Ring. Similar in stature and lineage to Boromir who represented Gondor as son of the Stweard of Gondor.legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
Thorin OakenshieldI can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
No. Thorin doesn't enter the frame until :54 or so. This guy is 2-3 spots to the left of Thorin.Thorin OakenshieldI can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
those noldrian elves did have descendants, arwen, Elladan and Elrohir, for example. elrond, who was born in the early 3rd age, son of celeborn and galadrial, participated the battle of the last alliance.[tolkien nerd]I think 'high' elves were those who had been to Valinor and returned to Middle Earth during the Wars against Morgoth and for the silmarils. Not many of them likely remained at the time of LOTR (Galadriel, Celeborn, Cirdan, Elrond, Gildor Inglorion, Glorfindel were the only named ones).[/tolkien nerd]legolas greenleaf was a 'lesser' wood elven prince. there were billions of noldorian 'high' elves in rivendell at the time of the council. it was odd that he was selected to defend all of middle earth from evil.boromir was the heir to the stewardship of gondor and considered the second most powerful human in middle earth. (aragorn was in exile and had not claimed the kingship yet)Legolas was a prince at the time of The Fellowship of the Ring. Similar in stature and lineage to Boromir who represented Gondor as son of the Stweard of Gondor.legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
Right, it is definitely not Thorin. The guy is huge in comparison to the Dwarves and looks like a human.No. Thorin doesn't enter the frame until :54 or so. This guy is 2-3 spots to the left of Thorin.Thorin OakenshieldI can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
ing goin on in here. I read all the books and loved them but I can't remember any of this ####.story tweaking? there were no humans.Right, it is definitely not Thorin. The guy is huge in comparison to the Dwarves and looks like a human.No. Thorin doesn't enter the frame until :54 or so. This guy is 2-3 spots to the left of Thorin.Thorin OakenshieldI can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
Jackson has already stated he is going to add and tweak when needed like he did in LOTR. Does he look human to you or is it a strange camera angle and it is one of the dwarves?story tweaking? there were no humans.Right, it is definitely not Thorin. The guy is huge in comparison to the Dwarves and looks like a human.No. Thorin doesn't enter the frame until :54 or so. This guy is 2-3 spots to the left of Thorin.Thorin OakenshieldI can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
that kinda pisses me off.the only humans in the book were the men of laketown.Jackson has already stated he is going to add and tweak when needed like he did in LOTR. Does he look human to you or is it a strange camera angle and it is one of the dwarves?story tweaking? there were no humans.Right, it is definitely not Thorin. The guy is huge in comparison to the Dwarves and looks like a human.No. Thorin doesn't enter the frame until :54 or so. This guy is 2-3 spots to the left of Thorin.Thorin OakenshieldI can't figure out who that person is at 51 seconds. It looks like it is the intro. meeting of characters at Bag End, but there were no Men there in the book, just Gandalf and the dwarves and Bilbo. Perhaps a new character, who knows.I'm sure he will be in it, but only a small part. His father is Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, also known as the 'Elvinking' in The Hobbit. The Dwarves spend some time in their prison after being captured in Mirkwood. He will likely show up next to his father when he addresses the dwarves although he is not mentioned in The Hobbit, he was certainly alive at the time.At 51 seconds of the trailer, who is the human on the right? Looks a bit like Aragorn but I don't think he is in this movie...Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part? Bloom is listed for the first movie but not the second from what I can see on IMDB
Huge[tolkien nerd]I think 'high' elves were those who had been to Valinor and returned to Middle Earth during the Wars against Morgoth and for the silmarils. Not many of them likely remained at the time of LOTR (Galadriel, Celeborn, Cirdan, Elrond, Gildor Inglorion, Glorfindel were the only named ones).Regardless, I agree that Legolas showing up was rather strange - as the elves of Mirkwood were very different from those of Rivendell/Gray Havens/Lothlorien and it seemed out of character for any of them to care about the happenings elsewhere.[/tolkien nerd]legolas greenleaf was a 'lesser' wood elven prince. there were billions of noldorian 'high' elves in rivendell at the time of the council. it was odd that he was selected to defend all of middle earth from evil.boromir was the heir to the stewardship of gondor and considered the second most powerful human in middle earth. (aragorn was in exile and had not claimed the kingship yet)Legolas was a prince at the time of The Fellowship of the Ring. Similar in stature and lineage to Boromir who represented Gondor as son of the Stweard of Gondor.legolas was not in the hobbit. actually, it was odd that an elf who lacked lineage, was sent to accompany the fellowship.Anyone know if Legolas is just going to be a cameo or a decent sized part?
alertThranduil was a Sindar Elf (those "high" elves who didn't go to Valinor). After Beleriand was destroyed at the end of the first age, he traveled east with his father to Mirkwood where there was a settlement of Silvan elves. They took his father as lord and Thranduil took up the rule when his father was killed during the Last Alliance. He adopted the Silvan language for everyday use since the vast majority of his subjects were Silvan but he himself (& Legolas) was of a higher race of elves (Celeborn was another Sindar).The reason Legolas went to Rivendell was that Thranduil felt threatened by the rise of Sauron (same reason Gloin & Gimli were in Rivendell) and was seeking advice. Before (& during) the Council, there was no plan to have Legolas (& Gimli & Merry &...) form a company to take the Ring to Mordor (though I think Elrond was nudging things that way). Some of those that volunteered to go did so spur-of-the-moment (such as Legolas & Gimli; also Merry & Pippin were almost left out).In any case, Legolas was one of the dozen or two most "royal" elves in Middle Earth at the time (at least, of those that were named). The films didn't really do a good job of explaining the background dynamic that went into the Council due to time contraints, I suppose, but it also would have been boring as hell on the screen.