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Peter King on C-Pep, jogging at Wal-Mart (1 Viewer)
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I'd say the fact that he's jogging at all is a good sign.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Other comments from King:
TO is the best fit for Dallas. I think he will end up there after alot of jawing over money.
Wherever TO goes he has a chance to be the best player on offense this year. He wants to save his rep so he has something to prove. He has to stay clean for a couple of years so he doesn't come off as a jerk.
You probably have to give him 8-12 mil in the first two years then a little something afterwards. I don't think Dallas is foolish enough to hand him a check for 15 mil.
TO needs Dallas. Denver is not going to hand him that kind of cash.
KC, Denver and Tampa al have interest but they don't have the cash Dallas has.
He was not a problem his first year in Philly. He won't be in Dallas. He did everything asked of him. He is an A-1 warrior and a turd.
Parcells masterfully coached one of the most difficult players ever in LT. He can handle TO
GB would want a high draft choice for Walker but I wouldn't do it after the ACL injury.
NO wants to trade their pick and move down to around 4.
I still think VY will be there at #7. I don't think he gets past Oakland. If he does he won't drop past #10 Arizona.
Alot will be determined today at VY's workout. Fisher privately says that VY worries him a little with the Wonderlic and some other things. The Titans are not taking McNair into the draft room and asking what he thinks, they are doing that with Norm Chow.
Vinatieri will not play for the Cowboys. Nobody wants to pay 3 mil for a kicker. Mare' will probably be in Dallas.
The Brees signing at NO was stunning. NO basically drove the money up and forced Miami to there second choice in Culpepper. I think this is a mistake because Brees will be the better signing. Miami should have stepped up to the plate and paid him. Culpepper was a lost sheep without Moss at WR. The early part of his rehab was horrible. He was doing his running in a Wal-Mart parking lot. He wouldn't go to Minny to do his rehab as they requested.
TO is the best fit for Dallas. I think he will end up there after alot of jawing over money.
Wherever TO goes he has a chance to be the best player on offense this year. He wants to save his rep so he has something to prove. He has to stay clean for a couple of years so he doesn't come off as a jerk.
You probably have to give him 8-12 mil in the first two years then a little something afterwards. I don't think Dallas is foolish enough to hand him a check for 15 mil.
TO needs Dallas. Denver is not going to hand him that kind of cash.
KC, Denver and Tampa al have interest but they don't have the cash Dallas has.
He was not a problem his first year in Philly. He won't be in Dallas. He did everything asked of him. He is an A-1 warrior and a turd.
Parcells masterfully coached one of the most difficult players ever in LT. He can handle TO
GB would want a high draft choice for Walker but I wouldn't do it after the ACL injury.
NO wants to trade their pick and move down to around 4.
I still think VY will be there at #7. I don't think he gets past Oakland. If he does he won't drop past #10 Arizona.
Alot will be determined today at VY's workout. Fisher privately says that VY worries him a little with the Wonderlic and some other things. The Titans are not taking McNair into the draft room and asking what he thinks, they are doing that with Norm Chow.
Vinatieri will not play for the Cowboys. Nobody wants to pay 3 mil for a kicker. Mare' will probably be in Dallas.
The Brees signing at NO was stunning. NO basically drove the money up and forced Miami to there second choice in Culpepper. I think this is a mistake because Brees will be the better signing. Miami should have stepped up to the plate and paid him. Culpepper was a lost sheep without Moss at WR. The early part of his rehab was horrible. He was doing his running in a Wal-Mart parking lot. He wouldn't go to Minny to do his rehab as they requested.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Q&A
Norm:
Are the Cowboys at the front of the line for TO?
King:
Yes, they have the money, a need and they cut Keysahwn. He’s the best fit for Dallas. I think he’ll end up there after a huge amount of jawing back and forth over money. It makes too much sense with Parcells maybe only coaching 1 year more.
Norm:
If Terrell Owens comes here and the Cowboys don’t offer what he wants, will TO get upset at a perceived lack of respect?
King:
Wherever he goes, he has a chance to be the best offensive player in the NFL next year. He knows he has the reputation of being a 1st-class-A-#1 turd, so he knows he has got to fix his reputation this year for people to pay any money in the future. To me, he’s got to stay clean for a couple of years and not be a jerk.
Norm:
So in theory you would give him a 1 year contract?
King:
I don’t think he’ll do that Norm. He’ll have to get real, legitimate money to not be a distraction. There are a lot of ways you can write up a contract in the NFL to motivate players, but the Cowboys won’t hand him a check for $15 million bucks, like some have speculated, because he needs them too. The Broncos aren’t going to pay him the money the Cowboys can.
Norm:
Who else is in the line for his services.
King:
A lot of people in it, but not like Dallas and Denver. Kansas City is still interested. The Dolphins are interested. But none of them have the money the Cowboys have.
Norm:
Why shouldn’t we worry that he’s going to be an 1st-class-A-#1 turd?
King:
Look at his first year in Philly. He was terrific his first year in Philly. He did everything this team asked him to do. He rehabbed a broken leg in 6 weeks to play in one of the greatest performances in Superbowl History. He’s a A-Number-1 warrior as well as a turd. You want him on your team for a year or maybe more. Bill Parcells masterly coached one of the most difficult players of all time in LT. He’ll be able to handle Terrell Owens, believe me.
Norm:
What would the Packers ask for Javon Walker.
King:
I’m sure a high draft choice, but for me ... I’m not paying a guy huge money coming off an knee injury. If I’m the Cowboys I get TO and pair him with Terry Glenn, and live happily ever after.
Norm:
What do the Saints do with the #2 pick?
King:
Trade him down to #4 with the Jets, and then maybe try to trade down again. But I would trade down to #4 and take Mario Williams or D’Brickshaw Ferguson, who is probably the best player in the draft.
Norm:
Is Vince Young sliding?
King:
Not since the Combine. I don’t think he’ll fall past the Raiders at #7, unless they get Patrick Ramsey or something. If so, he won’t get pas the Cardinals at #10.
Norm:
The Titans pick #3. McNair and Vince Young are tight, but Norm Chow is tight with Leinart. Where do the Titans go?
King:
A lot will be determined a week from today with Vince Young’s workout. Fisher said he’s going with an open mind, but privately he says he’s concerned about some things. He’s going to do an investigation about the Wonderlic debacle. The Titans are not taking McNair into the draft room to ask his opinion on who to pick. They’ll bring Chow into the room and ask him “Is Leinart the perfect QB to run this offense?”.
Norm:
The Cowboys said they are getting a vet kicker. Will Vinny go back to New England?
King:
He wont go to Dallas. Dallas won’t spend $3 million on a kicker, and he thinks his market value is more than it is. Or he might go to Green Bay, because his former agent is there. Then Olindo Mare comes into play for Dallas. And Miami probably goes to for Vanderjagt.
Norm:
Mare is a good kicker, and a good kickoff man also. Why is Miami sending him away?
King:
Because Nick Saban is like Bill Belichick. He has a figure in mind for a kicker that he is willing to pay for a kicker, and he’s not going to pay more for that. I think they’ll get Vanderjagt. He’s not going to cost for anymore than what they are paying Mare now.
Norm:
Did it stun you that Brees chose the Saints?
King:
Stunning, stunning, stunning. I talked to people in both organizations. NO was the rabbit who was being used to drive up the price. Saban wanted Brees, but they aren’t sure his arm will be healthy enough to work through a new offense this spring and fall. But they think everything will be okay by the start of the season. The reason I think it’s a mistake is October 1st, we’ll all be saying Brees was a great signing. He’s an efficient player. He’s one of the few QB’s in this league you can count on putting up a 90 QB rating. You know what Brees is. I don’t know what Culpepper is right now. Without Randy Moss he was a lost sheep last year. The medical people think he’ll be okay, but the early part of his rehab has been horrible. This guy was doing part of his rehab running in a Wall Mart parking lot in Central Florida. He wouldn’t workout with the Vikings. He said he’s his own man, blah, blah, blah. So the Vikes sent a guy down to check up on him, and they found out he’s been working out doing sprints on a parking lot.
Norm:
Are the Cowboys at the front of the line for TO?
King:
Yes, they have the money, a need and they cut Keysahwn. He’s the best fit for Dallas. I think he’ll end up there after a huge amount of jawing back and forth over money. It makes too much sense with Parcells maybe only coaching 1 year more.
Norm:
If Terrell Owens comes here and the Cowboys don’t offer what he wants, will TO get upset at a perceived lack of respect?
King:
Wherever he goes, he has a chance to be the best offensive player in the NFL next year. He knows he has the reputation of being a 1st-class-A-#1 turd, so he knows he has got to fix his reputation this year for people to pay any money in the future. To me, he’s got to stay clean for a couple of years and not be a jerk.
Norm:
So in theory you would give him a 1 year contract?
King:
I don’t think he’ll do that Norm. He’ll have to get real, legitimate money to not be a distraction. There are a lot of ways you can write up a contract in the NFL to motivate players, but the Cowboys won’t hand him a check for $15 million bucks, like some have speculated, because he needs them too. The Broncos aren’t going to pay him the money the Cowboys can.
Norm:
Who else is in the line for his services.
King:
A lot of people in it, but not like Dallas and Denver. Kansas City is still interested. The Dolphins are interested. But none of them have the money the Cowboys have.
Norm:
Why shouldn’t we worry that he’s going to be an 1st-class-A-#1 turd?
King:
Look at his first year in Philly. He was terrific his first year in Philly. He did everything this team asked him to do. He rehabbed a broken leg in 6 weeks to play in one of the greatest performances in Superbowl History. He’s a A-Number-1 warrior as well as a turd. You want him on your team for a year or maybe more. Bill Parcells masterly coached one of the most difficult players of all time in LT. He’ll be able to handle Terrell Owens, believe me.
Norm:
What would the Packers ask for Javon Walker.
King:
I’m sure a high draft choice, but for me ... I’m not paying a guy huge money coming off an knee injury. If I’m the Cowboys I get TO and pair him with Terry Glenn, and live happily ever after.
Norm:
What do the Saints do with the #2 pick?
King:
Trade him down to #4 with the Jets, and then maybe try to trade down again. But I would trade down to #4 and take Mario Williams or D’Brickshaw Ferguson, who is probably the best player in the draft.
Norm:
Is Vince Young sliding?
King:
Not since the Combine. I don’t think he’ll fall past the Raiders at #7, unless they get Patrick Ramsey or something. If so, he won’t get pas the Cardinals at #10.
Norm:
The Titans pick #3. McNair and Vince Young are tight, but Norm Chow is tight with Leinart. Where do the Titans go?
King:
A lot will be determined a week from today with Vince Young’s workout. Fisher said he’s going with an open mind, but privately he says he’s concerned about some things. He’s going to do an investigation about the Wonderlic debacle. The Titans are not taking McNair into the draft room to ask his opinion on who to pick. They’ll bring Chow into the room and ask him “Is Leinart the perfect QB to run this offense?”.
Norm:
The Cowboys said they are getting a vet kicker. Will Vinny go back to New England?
King:
He wont go to Dallas. Dallas won’t spend $3 million on a kicker, and he thinks his market value is more than it is. Or he might go to Green Bay, because his former agent is there. Then Olindo Mare comes into play for Dallas. And Miami probably goes to for Vanderjagt.
Norm:
Mare is a good kicker, and a good kickoff man also. Why is Miami sending him away?
King:
Because Nick Saban is like Bill Belichick. He has a figure in mind for a kicker that he is willing to pay for a kicker, and he’s not going to pay more for that. I think they’ll get Vanderjagt. He’s not going to cost for anymore than what they are paying Mare now.
Norm:
Did it stun you that Brees chose the Saints?
King:
Stunning, stunning, stunning. I talked to people in both organizations. NO was the rabbit who was being used to drive up the price. Saban wanted Brees, but they aren’t sure his arm will be healthy enough to work through a new offense this spring and fall. But they think everything will be okay by the start of the season. The reason I think it’s a mistake is October 1st, we’ll all be saying Brees was a great signing. He’s an efficient player. He’s one of the few QB’s in this league you can count on putting up a 90 QB rating. You know what Brees is. I don’t know what Culpepper is right now. Without Randy Moss he was a lost sheep last year. The medical people think he’ll be okay, but the early part of his rehab has been horrible. This guy was doing part of his rehab running in a Wall Mart parking lot in Central Florida. He wouldn’t workout with the Vikings. He said he’s his own man, blah, blah, blah. So the Vikes sent a guy down to check up on him, and they found out he’s been working out doing sprints on a parking lot.
LT wanted to freelance alot. Alot of coaches probably would have had issues with some things he did. Carl Banks was awesome, and Carson is in the Hall. They afforded LT alot of wiggle room. As discussed in another thread, Parcells will not let another player get away with what LT did. He's second guessed himself many times since on how he handled LT in that regard.
Parcells barks at players in TC. No way Owens can take that abuse without walking out. He's not "built" for that much criticism and belittling.
Warpig
Footballguy
Obviously King and Clayton don't compare notes before this stuff. Clayton is saying Dallas released Me-Shawn because he wanted bigtime receiver money and Parcells released him so he could see just how much people would be willing to offer him and they may even resign him. That totally contradicts the thought of Dallas giving TO big money. I know Key <=> TO but I don't think TO can command a big paycheck.
jkruppe
Footballguy
Could somebody please explain to me why ANY team would give TO anything more than a 1-year, heavy-incentive laden deal to make sure he'll play nice before they pony up the big bucks?
I know TO wants his money, but what choice does he really have? He might get more cash out of a crappy team but I doubt his ego would let him play for anything but a contender. Why does he even have any say here? This clown is going to get $13 million from Dallas?
I know TO wants his money, but what choice does he really have? He might get more cash out of a crappy team but I doubt his ego would let him play for anything but a contender. Why does he even have any say here? This clown is going to get $13 million from Dallas?
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
I started jogging again about 4 months after tearing my ACL without having surgery. Its a positive thing.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I don't know how else to say: "Concrete is bad for your knees"
http://www.maximmag.co.uk/fitness/fittips/..._pain_tips.html
http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Booksh...Books/47/89.cfm
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UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Depends, what's important is running on a consistant flat surface. On a football field, the grass is actually probably better because it softens the impact but the surface is made flat. If you go run at a park, its not going to be flat and it could cause a tweak in the knee. My doctor was actually surprised that I was running cross country without much additional pain. That was the one question he asked me when I asked him about it. Jogging on concrete is not a bad thing. Especially with today's shoes. Anyways, a few months of healing is enough time that an athlete should begin jogging. I dont know when he had surgery, but Culpepper's injury was more than long enough ago.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
redman
Footballguy
[sOMEWHERE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA]
"Mom, can we PLEEEEEEASE get the 48-gallon container of Gatorade with Mark Martin's new car on the. . . hey, was that Daunte Culpepper?"
Or:MOM: Wow Jimmy, how on earth are we going to get across town by 4:30 to pick up your sister from her piano lesson? It's going to take a hail mary-
DAUNTE: Excuse me, ma'am, but is a football analogy really appropriate here . . .
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the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
BP barks at and belittles certain players. Not all players. He's considered by many a master motivator, and this is but one of his ways of getting a player's attn. He uses different measures for players with different personality types, as does any good coach.
