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Peter King strikes again! (1 Viewer)

Call me crazy but drafting Peyton Manning over Tiki Barber in the 8 spot doesn't seem all that wacky to me. I also don't think it's a longshot that a guy like Westbrook would be available in round 2.

That being said, that's the best I can do to "defend" Peter King as I concur that he's a no talent ### clown who knows as much about fantasy football as I do about nuclear engineering. Hey Pedro, stick to in depth coverage of your latte experience at Starbucks. We'll go elsewhere for our own football advice.

 
Why is he delving into fantasy advice? :no:
Because the media giants (ESPN, major networks, etc) know FF is big money these days, so they're trying to tap into it.
Call me crazy but drafting Peyton Manning over Tiki Barber in the 8 spot doesn't seem all that wacky to me. I also don't think it's a longshot that a guy like Westbrook would be available in round 2.

That being said, that's the best I can do to "defend" Peter King as I concur that he's a no talent ### clown who knows as much about fantasy football as I do about nuclear engineering. Hey Pedro, stick to in depth coverage of your latte experience at Starbucks. We'll go elsewhere for our own football advice.
Exactly, on all counts.
 
Seeing as how King and Barber have done the "coffee shop" ads together, I'm surprised that King doesn't have him pegged as the #1 overall pick. Barber must've really pissed him off at some point.

 
Peter King has...

Written about our hobby

Gone outside the normal/rational thinking

Caused us to debate his article

and help increase SI's reader base

I think SI might be getting the last laugh on all of us

Tom

 
2.7 - #19 overall - Taylor (big reach)

3.6 - #30 overall - Bell (big reach)

4.7 - #43 overall - Maroney/Williams (huge reaches)
a team with Peyton and Chester/Bell/DeAngelo wouldn't be terrible. wouldn't be great, but it could be competitive if things break right for those 3 RBs and you were able to build a solid WR group in the next few rounds.
No offense, Ruds, but King suggests that this team would be formidable, not just competitive if things break right:
I'll cobble together a receiving corps -- and I'll be in the money in December.
pretty sure he would also admit that he's clueless and often wrong when it comes to fantasy football.
He's done that a number of times. He's not doing this to be serious about it, it's for a column for crying out loud!
 
Seriously, Madden is not as big on X's and O's, at least not at this point in his career, as guys like Simms or (dare I say, Theismann).
I dunno The Jerk. If I had to have one of those three coach my current team, I'd pick Madden. And I think he knows a lot more about defensive X's and O's than Simms. As a former QB Simms should know more about that position, and maybe the offense, but I would be careful not to underestimate how intelligent the guy with the second highest winning percentage in NFL history is.
Chase,I agree with you. I'm not suggesting Madden doesn't know football strategy and offensive and defensive assignments. What I'm referring to with "not as big on X's and O's" is that Madden doesn't choose to COMMENT on the X's and O's as much as the other guys. At least that's my impression.

 
Seeing as how King and Barber have done the "coffee shop" ads together, I'm surprised that King doesn't have him pegged as the #1 overall pick. Barber must've really pissed him off at some point.
Sorry but Tom Brady probably gets his nod for the top overall fantasy pick. Bill Belicheck is likely second.
 
King's fantasy "advice" is obviously pretty sorry stuff, but with regard to his reporting credentials when NFL GMs and head coaches have you on their speed dial it's pretty safe to say you've got plenty of street cred around the league. Whether you like him or not, King is easily one of the most influential reporters/columnists covering the NFL today.

 
Okay, so King's first four rounds will look a little something like this:

1.6 - #6 overall - Manning

2.7 - #19 overall - Taylor (big reach)

3.6 - #30 overall - Bell (big reach)

4.7 - #43 overall - Maroney/Williams (huge reaches)

Here is what taking Barber over Manning might yield:

1.6 - #6 overall - Barber

2.7 - #19 overall - McGahee

3.6 - #30 overall - J. Jones/Lewis

4.7 - #43 overall - Hasselbeck

Which team would you rather have?
Just cuz i didn't notice anyone take this angle...To me it sounded like he suggested to take manning then any 3 of those late backs (obviously brown and others shouldn't/won't last past round 2) say he took Manning, Holt/Fitz, taylor, bell, WR/TE,Williams/WR, Maroney/whatever need?
I believe you probably missed the part of the article which I will bold below.
Let's say I'm in a 12-team league, drafting in the middle of the pack. I take Manning with my first pick, thinking he's going to take essentially every snap -- he always does -- and if he puts up average numbers, based on his past four seasons (33 touchdowns, 4,193 yards), all I have to do at running back is be pretty good. And over the next three rounds I'm going to get three of these six backs: Ronnie Brown, Tatum Bell, Brian Westbrook, Chester Taylor, Laurence Maroney and DeAngelo Williams. I'll cobble together a receiving corps -- and I'll be in the money in December.
 
my question why would anyone interested in sport read Sports Illustrated.
Speaking for myself, I stole the copy from my doctor's office yesterday.Rag or not, I read as much about FF as I can. Especially if it's free. ;)

 
Peter King has...

Written about our hobby

Gone outside the normal/rational thinking

Caused us to debate his article

and help increase SI's reader base

I think SI might be getting the last laugh on all of us

Tom
Trudat.
 
Seriously, Madden is not as big on X's and O's, at least not at this point in his career, as guys like Simms or (dare I say, Theismann).
I dunno The Jerk. If I had to have one of those three coach my current team, I'd pick Madden. And I think he knows a lot more about defensive X's and O's than Simms. As a former QB Simms should know more about that position, and maybe the offense, but I would be careful not to underestimate how intelligent the guy with the second highest winning percentage in NFL history is.
I thought Madden was #1 in career winning percentage. Who has better?
 
I believe you probably missed the part of the article which I will bold below.

Let's say I'm in a 12-team league, drafting in the middle of the pack. I take Manning with my first pick, thinking he's going to take essentially every snap -- he always does -- and if he puts up average numbers, based on his past four seasons (33 touchdowns, 4,193 yards), all I have to do at running back is be pretty good. And over the next three rounds I'm going to get three of these six backs: Ronnie Brown, Tatum Bell, Brian Westbrook, Chester Taylor, Laurence Maroney and DeAngelo Williams. I'll cobble together a receiving corps -- and I'll be in the money in December.
:ph34r: thanksThat's why friend's don't let friends read/post drunk :bag:

 
... Seriously, Madden is not as big on X's and O's, at least not at this point in his career, as guys like Simms or (dare I say, Theismann). Yet he still appeals to the football "working class" as I define it. Unlike geeks like me, these fans don't want to have access to the OC and DC game plan preparation or debate FF strategy. They like meat and potatoes football commentary. That's how I see Peter King, just in print instead of the color analyst's seat.
Phil Simms is the best X and O guy in the biz today. He makes his team watch HOURS of film each week in prepairing for games. One of the local film crews did an in-depth piece on them and I was amazed not only how hard that crew worked but mostly by how Simms was the undisputed leader and ran them thru the grist mill by making them watch plays over and over again to make sure they understood what was happening.Good call on noting Phil Simms. :thumbup:

 
Seeing as how King and Barber have done the "coffee shop" ads together, I'm surprised that King doesn't have him pegged as the #1 overall pick. Barber must've really pissed him off at some point.
Sorry but Tom Brady probably gets his nod for the top overall fantasy pick. Bill Belicheck is likely second.
Brady is picked as the No 1 QB in SI FF section
 
I haven't read a King article in over two years. I quit reading that tripe. But one good thing you can say about him is this. As long as he continues to write about FF as an "authority" on the subject, there is a chance that someone from one of my leagues will read him and believe him.

 
Call me crazy but drafting Peyton Manning over Tiki Barber in the 8 spot doesn't seem all that wacky to me. I also don't think it's a longshot that a guy like Westbrook would be available in round 2.

That being said, that's the best I can do to "defend" Peter King as I concur that he's a no talent ### clown who knows as much about fantasy football as I do about nuclear engineering. Hey Pedro, stick to in depth coverage of your latte experience at Starbucks. We'll go elsewhere for our own football advice.
This year in particular I like Manning even as high as #4 (I have said I would consider him as high as #2).The way I see it there are at least five legitimate preseason candidates to finish as the #1 RB in FF; LJ, LT, SA, Tiki & Portis. Plus a slew of other guys that could step into the fray if the chips fall right.

However at QB Manning is as close to being a mortal lock to finish #1 as any position player that I can remember. His downside would be finishing as the #2 QB.

And I don't think anyone should concern themselves with whether a player will be playing or sitting in their fantasy playoffs, in July.

p.s. King really shouldn't do fantasy football, I think he admitted that he doesn't play (but I could be wrong about that), but I don't think Manning in the first round is crazy by any stretch.

 
pretty sure he would also admit that he's clueless and often wrong when it comes to fantasy football.
Then why bother to write about it? Is King's next move writing a piece on brain surgery in a medical journal?
 
pretty sure he would also admit that he's clueless and often wrong when it comes to fantasy football.
Then why bother to write about it?
Boss: There's lots of money to be made with fantasy football. You're our most popular writer. Usually your writing appeals to the lower common denominators, anyway, so it's not like you need quality material, here. You are now writing about fantasy football.Peter King: I don't know anything about fantasy football.

Boss: Do I look like I care?

Peter King: No sir!

Boss: Do you want to get fired?

Peter King: No sir!

Boss: So are you writing about fantasy football?

Peter King: Yes sir!

If your boss comes up to you and asks you to take on a project for which several of your coworkers are far better suited, are you going to tell him no and not do it?

 
pretty sure he would also admit that he's clueless and often wrong when it comes to fantasy football.
Then why bother to write about it? Is King's next move writing a piece on brain surgery in a medical journal?
MMQB probably isn't the best place to look for fantasy football advice. If people are looking to King's column for that purpose, I'd say that is their problem, not his. He's supposed to be entertaining, while giving his take on things around the league. The guy writes about his fantasy baseball team all the time too but I don't hear people #####ing about that. He's just a casual fantasy player, and his takes seem to reflect that.
 
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:shrug: FWIW, my work league champion drafted Peyton Manning in the first round last year.

Of course, he grabbed Larry Johnson in the 3rd and Mike Anderson in the 6th or so. So it can be done, if you get lucky.

 
Whate about this though

1.6 - #6 overall - Manning

2.7 - #19 overall - McGahee

3.6 - #30 overall - J. Jones/Lewis

4.7 - #43 overall -Javon Walker

 
I think his assertion that with a team like that, he'd be in the money at the end of the season is wishful thinking at best. Throw in that most of those backs won't be available when he thinks they might also shoots his theory to hell. I like thinking outside the box as much as the next guy but that does not mean his theory will put you in the money.

Some of his defenders should sack up, follow his advice and let us know how you make out at the end of the year. :football:

 
my question why would anyone interested in sport read Sports Illustrated. All it is one big style collumn about sports figures. It is probably the sorriest excusefor a sports magazine on the market with the exception of ESPN the Magazine being which is an expesive copy of the SI
Pretty close to my opinion. They're both People magazine for the casual sports fan. I can't imagine a hardcore fan reading it, though they may.
 
Whate about this though

1.6 - #6 overall - Manning

2.7 - #19 overall - McGahee

3.6 - #30 overall - J. Jones/Lewis

4.7 - #43 overall -Javon Walker
That's fine, but it's far from what King advised. I'd like to clarify something. I had two main problems with his piece -- the two things which prompted me to start this thread.1) I have no quarrel with taking Manning in the 1st round, and several of you have correctly pointed this out. However, it is his list of RBs which he hopes to get in rounds 2/3/4 which is laughable for many reasons. (See my initial post for the details.)

2) This statement was pure stupidity:

There's a ridiculous overemphasis on running backs in fantasy football. Running backs in the NFL are eminently more replaceable than quarterbacks, left tackles and pass rushers, yet when you look at the mock fantasy drafts this summer, you see backs like Tiki Barber ranked ahead of Peyton Manning. Absurd.
It is not absurd in the least to take Tiki Barber over Peyton Manning. What is absurd is that Peter King got paid to offer opinions on fantasy football.
 
Seeing as how King and Barber have done the "coffee shop" ads together, I'm surprised that King doesn't have him pegged as the #1 overall pick. Barber must've really pissed him off at some point.
Sorry but Tom Brady probably gets his nod for the top overall fantasy pick. Bill Belicheck is likely second.
Brady is picked as the No 1 QB in SI FF section
yea... i found that odd.... apparently SI will be doing a weekly FF insert or something for the first time this year... it'll be interesting to see if it features PK and his dribble or more insightful writers
 
Seeing as how King and Barber have done the "coffee shop" ads together, I'm surprised that King doesn't have him pegged as the #1 overall pick. Barber must've really pissed him off at some point.
Sorry but Tom Brady probably gets his nod for the top overall fantasy pick. Bill Belicheck is likely second.
Brady is picked as the No 1 QB in SI FF section
yea... i found that odd....
'05Brady - 4110, 26/14

Manning - 3747, 28/10

Not the craziest prediction ever made, but with Edge out of town, you'd figure that Manning will easily crack 4K with increased TDs also.

 
pretty sure he would also admit that he's clueless and often wrong when it comes to fantasy football.
Then why bother to write about it?
Boss: There's lots of money to be made with fantasy football. You're our most popular writer. Usually your writing appeals to the lower common denominators, anyway, so it's not like you need quality material, here. You are now writing about fantasy football.Peter King: I don't know anything about fantasy football.

Boss: Do I look like I care?

Peter King: No sir!

Boss: Do you want to get fired?

Peter King: No sir!

Boss: So are you writing about fantasy football?

Peter King: Yes sir!

If your boss comes up to you and asks you to take on a project for which several of your coworkers are far better suited, are you going to tell him no and not do it?
The issue isn't if you should respect your superior's wishes. The issue is that King looks bad carrying out those wishes. It wouldn't take him more than a few hours' work to understand fantasy football. I'd think he would value his own reputation more than he does.
 
pretty sure he would also admit that he's clueless and often wrong when it comes to fantasy football.
Then why bother to write about it? Is King's next move writing a piece on brain surgery in a medical journal?
MMQB probably isn't the best place to look for fantasy football advice. If people are looking to King's column for that purpose, I'd say that is there problem, not his. He's supposed to be entertaining, while giving his take on things around the league. The guy writes about his fantasy baseball team all the time too but I don't hear people #####ing about that. He's just a casual fantasy player, and his takes seem to reflect that.
King is supposed to be an NFL insider. An expert in his field. King's "entertaining" fantasy opinions make him look bad. I've really enjoyed his spots on Inside The NFL, so it's not as if I dislike King. My point is that his fantasy takes suck, and they make him lose credibility.
 

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