Peterson/Russell (1 Viewer)

[Mr. Peterson]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

It's never a sign of good character when someone calls himself "The Chosen One".

 

[Penguin]

I have to say that I'm not crazy about Russell at all. Reminds me of a younger, heavier Culpepper.

I remember watching the combine when they were taking measurements (height, weight etc) on everyone, Russell looked at lot flabbier than Olineman Joe Thomas. Who knows what he's been doing conditioning wise all summer, the Raiders could end up with a 300 pound QB.

 

[maxwell1295]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

 

[3C's]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

If you want to play football then you tell your agent to make it happen. He works for the player, not the other way around.

 

[Chaka]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

If you want to play football then you tell your agent to make it happen. He works for the player, not the other way around.

Didn't LT holdout his rookie year?

 

[smcindoe]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Everyone thought this at the time? Really?

 

[Getinthemix]

Vick was hands down the #1 that year. Vick was one of the hottest college ball players in memory. He was supposed to revamp the game. Now that opinion has changed, but teams were salivating over him. Look at how much the Chargers got for the pick.

Tomlinson was thought of as a somewhat unknown due to playing at TCU in a non traditional offense.

 

[massraider]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

There have been reports that both sides have been unreasonable. You can choose to believe whichever reports support your stance.There are reports that the Raiders are refusing a skill and injury clause, which would ensure that Russell receive all of his guaranteed money if he is injured or cut. The Raiders routinely refuse such a clause, although the last 15 top picks have received it. Supposedly, Russell's agents told the Raiders before the draft if it weren't included, the team need not draft him.

Again, these are just reports, but I believe the Raiders are on record as saying the skill clause wasn't on the table. Frankly, if that's the case, the Raiders are being unrealistic. There aren't too many agents that would allow their client to sign a deal as the #1 overall pick, without being able to guarantee the guy's guaranteed money! And if the Metz boys did allow that kind of signing, they can forget about Brian Brohm, or whoever might be the #1 pick next year.

There is also the theory that neither side is feeling any urgency to sign, as Russell is going to sit most of the year, at least.

Character? Russell has been silent, letting the negotiations play out. He is unsigned, right now. He's not violating a contract, he is unsigned.

If you question the character of an unsigned rookie, then all those holdout vets must be bad characters as well.

 

[massraider]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

If you want to play football then you tell your agent to make it happen. He works for the player, not the other way around.

Didn't LT holdout his rookie year?

Yes he did. I question his character.

 

[3C's]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

If you want to play football then you tell your agent to make it happen. He works for the player, not the other way around.

When you're a 20 something year old #1 overall draft pick with no knowledge of how negotiations work, you shutup and let the agent work the best deal he can get.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Everyone thought this at the time? Really?

Sorry, I meant "looking back at how things are now". But that seems to have been the talk for the past couple years now.

 

[strong]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

If you want to play football then you tell your agent to make it happen. He works for the player, not the other way around.

Didn't LT holdout his rookie year?

Yes he did. I question his character.

LT held out 30 days.Russell is on day 28.

Both have terrible character, obviously.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Remember the 2001 draft when everyone thought that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but the holdout is not a good sign of his charecter. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.

I don't understand.... How is the holdout not a good sing of character? If you want to say Peterson was the better choice based on his past play/future potential, I can see that. But unless you know the rationale behind the holdout, I don't think questioning his character makes sense. How about his agent? The Raiders ownership? Should we be questioning their character too? They have just as much to do with the holdout as Russell does...

Because there have been reports of his negotiations. Russell is being unreasonable.

I'd venture to guess it's his agent that is being unreasonable.

If you want to play football then you tell your agent to make it happen. He works for the player, not the other way around.

Didn't LT holdout his rookie year?

Yes he did. I question his character.

LT held out 30 days.Russell is on day 28.

Both have terrible character, obviously.

Did LT really hold out that long? I honestly don't remember that. I thought I remembered him playing in the preseason. Why don't I take out that "charecter" line for holding out and start over.Remember the 2001 draft and how now everyone thinks that the Falcons should not have passed on LT and selected him over Vick?

Similarities between the 2001 draft and the 2007 draft are starting to seem pretty odd. Now I'm not saying that Russell is going to do anything thing horrible and disgusting like Vick did, but he does have some question marks. And I'm also not saying that Peterson is going to be as good as LT (but he will be).

I have a very strong feeling people will be looking back on this draft and thinking every team was foolish for passing on a talent such as Adrain Peterson just like they did after the 2001 draft.[/

 

[RockHard]

It's never a sign of good character when someone calls himself "The Chosen One".

<_< Isnt this what Lebron has tattoed on his back? He seems to be doing OK.