PFR just changed on me (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

At first glance, this doesn't just look like cosmetic changes. It will take some getting used to, but I look forward to spending my work day exploring the new PFR.

Thanks, Doug!

 

[Sidewinder16]

You don't read the p-f-r blog??!!

For shame.

 

[reg]

I liked the old school text based version better.

 

[dgreen]

Cut and paste into XL works better now.

 

[BusMan]

I like it. Its kinda wiki-fied.

 

[reg]

test

Rk Week Date Tm Opp Tm Opp Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate Att Yds Y/A Rec Yds Y/R RRTD

5 1 2007 W MIN ATL 24 3 13 23 163 1 1 7.1 56.5 75.1 2 10 5.0 0

6 2 2007 L MIN @ DET 17 20 17 33 166 0 4 5.0 51.5 26.4 5 16 3.2 1

7 6 2007 W MIN @ CHI 34 31 9 23 136 1 0 5.9 39.1 73.8 0

8 7 2007 L MIN @ DAL 14 24 6 19 72 0 0 3.8 31.6 44.2 4 20 5.0 0

9 9 2007 W MIN SDG 35 17 6 12 63 0 0 5.3 50.0 65.6 2 19 9.5 0

10 11 2007 W MIN OAK 29 22 17 22 171 0 1 7.8 77.3 79.9 3 19 6.3 0

11 12 2007 W MIN @ NYG 41 17 10 12 129 1 0 10.8 83.3 139.2 5 38 7.6 0

12 13 2007 W MIN DET 42 10 18 24 204 2 1 8.5 75.0 110.4 5 20 4.0 0

13 14 2007 W MIN @ SFO 27 7 16 25 163 1 0 6.5 64.0 95.9 9 13 1.4 0

14 15 2007 W MIN CHI 20 13 18 29 249 0 3 8.6 62.1 50.0 7 25 3.6 0

 

[reg]

Tarvaris Jackson

Tarvaris Jackson

Position: QB

Height: 6-2 Weight: 226 lbs.

Born: April 21, 1983 in Mongtomery, AL

College: Alabama State, Arkansas

Drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2nd round 2006 draft

O RLY

 

[Sidewinder16]

This goes into some more detail on the reason behind the changes, as well as an interesting peek into the history of p-f-r.

 

[dgreen]

Am I overlooking a player's fantasy position ranking and "Value" on their player page?

 

[dgreen]

Am I overlooking a player's fantasy position ranking and "Value" on their player page?

Hmm, and no postseason stats on the player page?

 

[Doug Drinen]

Tarvaris Jackson

Tarvaris Jackson

Position: QB

Height: 6-2 Weight: 226 lbs.

Born: April 21, 1983 in Mongtomery, AL

College: Alabama State, Arkansas

Drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2nd round 2006 draft

O RLY

Yeah, that's a problem. There will be others. But we will get them cleaned up as quick as we can.

 

[Doug Drinen]

Am I overlooking a player's fantasy position ranking and "Value" on their player page?

Hmm, and no postseason stats on the player page?

Postseason stats are there. They've just moved to a new "tab." Right above the main player stat tables, you'll see something like: " GameLog · Playoffs · 100/300/100" Click on playoffs for the playoff game logs.

 

[Doug Drinen]

Am I overlooking a player's fantasy position ranking and "Value" on their player page?

This is gone for now, but will return eventually, probably in the offseason. Meanwhile, you could use FBG for historical fantasy rankings

 

[dgreen]

Am I overlooking a player's fantasy position ranking and "Value" on their player page?

Hmm, and no postseason stats on the player page?

Postseason stats are there. They've just moved to a new "tab." Right above the main player stat tables, you'll see something like: " GameLog · Playoffs · 100/300/100" Click on playoffs for the playoff game logs.

Ah, there it is. Thanks.I now have something productive to do at work tomorrow. Thanks!

 

[dgreen]

Am I overlooking a player's fantasy position ranking and "Value" on their player page?

This is gone for now, but will return eventually, probably in the offseason. Meanwhile, you could use FBG for historical fantasy rankings

I don't have a subscription, but it's something I've been considering. Plus, FBGs, other than the forum, is blocked at work.

 

[Doug Drinen]

At first glance, this doesn't just look like cosmetic changes. It will take some getting used to, but I look forward to spending my work day exploring the new PFR.

Thanks, Doug!

Yes, it's not just cosmetic changes. I don't like change either, particularly on a site that I visit often. But let me try to sell you on some of the new features:

* we now have kick returns, punt returns, fumble recoveries, interceptions, and out-of-position stats. So pages like Deion Sanders' and Kordell Stewart's and Brian Mitchell's have become much more informative.

* we now have pages for every player in NFL history. Players like Lou Groza, Ray Guy, and countless defensive players and offensive linemen are no longer unrecognized.

* we now have lots and lots of college information. This page is a lot of fun. Note that the tables are sortable. Simply click a column header.

* with pages like this one, it is a snap to learn things like that Leo Lewis was 12th in the NFL in rec. yards in 1984. Get top 10 lists in punting, returns, interceptions, you name it.

* Complete rosters and starting lineups for each team.

* Some draft information. Admittedly, this needs (and will get) work. But it's a vast improvement over the nothing we had before.

* Find all players born on your birthday.

* Vastly improved site search. Type in names or partial names, or things like 'den 2001' or 'colts' or '1942 nfl' and get the expected results.

* More detailed team game logs.

* Team stats in many, many more categories.

 

[Doug Drinen]

[continued...]

* Every 100 yard rushing or receiving, or 300 yard passing game ever. Here is a list of all of Jim Brown's 100-yard games, for instance.

* Leaderboards in many, many more categories.

* Hall of Famers

* In addition to pro bowl appearances, we now have all-pro selections.

* Use the sortable tables at this page to find out what coach won his division most often. Use the sortable tables at this page to see what franchise has the best all-time winning percentage.

 

[dgreen]

At first glance, this doesn't just look like cosmetic changes. It will take some getting used to, but I look forward to spending my work day exploring the new PFR.

Thanks, Doug!

Yes, it's not just cosmetic changes. I don't like change either, particularly on a site that I visit often. But let me try to sell you on some of the new features:

It looks great so far. I was just so used to the nice, simple approach. But, I'll admit, I was forced to look at other sites for certain data that you didn't provide. Hopefully this can become more of a one stop shop.

 

[Doug Drinen]

At first glance, this doesn't just look like cosmetic changes. It will take some getting used to, but I look forward to spending my work day exploring the new PFR.

Thanks, Doug!

Yes, it's not just cosmetic changes. I don't like change either, particularly on a site that I visit often. But let me try to sell you on some of the new features:

It looks great so far. I was just so used to the nice, simple approach. But, I'll admit, I was forced to look at other sites for certain data that you didn't provide. Hopefully this can become more of a one stop shop.

Trust me, you will find NO ONE more resistant to change than I am. FWIW, it took me about a week to get used to the new table style. By Wild Card Week, you'll wonder how you ever lived without new p-f-r.

 

[Doug Drinen]

testRk Week Date Tm Opp Tm Opp Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate Att Yds Y/A Rec Yds Y/R RRTD 5 1 2007 W MIN ATL 24 3 13 23 163 1 1 7.1 56.5 75.1 2 10 5.0 0 6 2 2007 L MIN @ DET 17 20 17 33 166 0 4 5.0 51.5 26.4 5 16 3.2 1 7 6 2007 W MIN @ CHI 34 31 9 23 136 1 0 5.9 39.1 73.8 0 8 7 2007 L MIN @ DAL 14 24 6 19 72 0 0 3.8 31.6 44.2 4 20 5.0 0 9 9 2007 W MIN SDG 35 17 6 12 63 0 0 5.3 50.0 65.6 2 19 9.5 0 10 11 2007 W MIN OAK 29 22 17 22 171 0 1 7.8 77.3 79.9 3 19 6.3 0 11 12 2007 W MIN @ NYG 41 17 10 12 129 1 0 10.8 83.3 139.2 5 38 7.6 0 12 13 2007 W MIN DET 42 10 18 24 204 2 1 8.5 75.0 110.4 5 20 4.0 0 13 14 2007 W MIN @ SFO 27 7 16 25 163 1 0 6.5 64.0 95.9 9 13 1.4 0 14 15 2007 W MIN CHI 20 13 18 29 249 0 3 8.6 62.1 50.0 7 25 3.6 0

I'm not following you. Is something amiss here? TIA.

 

[Horrorshow]

* Find all players born on your birthday

QB: Ryan LeafRB: Emmit Smith

RB: Leroy Hoard

WR: Rod Smith

WR: Desmond Howard

TE: Robert Royal

T: Walt Sugg

G: Edwin Bailey

C: Max Reed

G: Louis Oubre

T: Bob Van Duyne

DE: John Siegal

DT: Wally Chambers

DT: Jerry Boyarsky

DE: Juqua Thomas

LB: Ray Lewis

LB: Tony Adamle

LB: Don Shinnick

DB: Joey Browner

DB: Dainard Paulson

DB: Rickie Harris

DB: Doug Beaudin

P: Dan Stryzinski

K: Tony Zendejas

Go team May 15th!

 

[reg]

testRk Week Date Tm Opp Tm Opp Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate Att Yds Y/A Rec Yds Y/R RRTD 5 1 2007 W MIN ATL 24 3 13 23 163 1 1 7.1 56.5 75.1 2 10 5.0 0 6 2 2007 L MIN @ DET 17 20 17 33 166 0 4 5.0 51.5 26.4 5 16 3.2 1 7 6 2007 W MIN @ CHI 34 31 9 23 136 1 0 5.9 39.1 73.8 0 8 7 2007 L MIN @ DAL 14 24 6 19 72 0 0 3.8 31.6 44.2 4 20 5.0 0 9 9 2007 W MIN SDG 35 17 6 12 63 0 0 5.3 50.0 65.6 2 19 9.5 0 10 11 2007 W MIN OAK 29 22 17 22 171 0 1 7.8 77.3 79.9 3 19 6.3 0 11 12 2007 W MIN @ NYG 41 17 10 12 129 1 0 10.8 83.3 139.2 5 38 7.6 0 12 13 2007 W MIN DET 42 10 18 24 204 2 1 8.5 75.0 110.4 5 20 4.0 0 13 14 2007 W MIN @ SFO 27 7 16 25 163 1 0 6.5 64.0 95.9 9 13 1.4 0 14 15 2007 W MIN CHI 20 13 18 29 249 0 3 8.6 62.1 50.0 7 25 3.6 0

I'm not following you. Is something amiss here? TIA.

Copy/Paste used to work awesome on here from PFR. Now, not so much hence the

 

[reg]

Go team May 15th!

Team Apr 20th SUX.

 

[PatrickT]

Always wanted someone to thank for that site. Thanks, Doug!

Dec. 6th

Otto Graham

Marion Barber

Lindsay Scott (of Ga Bulldog fame more than NFL, same year, too)

Tarzan White (Tarzan?)

 

[PatrickT]

testRk Week Date Tm Opp Tm Opp Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate Att Yds Y/A Rec Yds Y/R RRTD 5 1 2007 W MIN ATL 24 3 13 23 163 1 1 7.1 56.5 75.1 2 10 5.0 0 6 2 2007 L MIN @ DET 17 20 17 33 166 0 4 5.0 51.5 26.4 5 16 3.2 1 7 6 2007 W MIN @ CHI 34 31 9 23 136 1 0 5.9 39.1 73.8 0 8 7 2007 L MIN @ DAL 14 24 6 19 72 0 0 3.8 31.6 44.2 4 20 5.0 0 9 9 2007 W MIN SDG 35 17 6 12 63 0 0 5.3 50.0 65.6 2 19 9.5 0 10 11 2007 W MIN OAK 29 22 17 22 171 0 1 7.8 77.3 79.9 3 19 6.3 0 11 12 2007 W MIN @ NYG 41 17 10 12 129 1 0 10.8 83.3 139.2 5 38 7.6 0 12 13 2007 W MIN DET 42 10 18 24 204 2 1 8.5 75.0 110.4 5 20 4.0 0 13 14 2007 W MIN @ SFO 27 7 16 25 163 1 0 6.5 64.0 95.9 9 13 1.4 0 14 15 2007 W MIN CHI 20 13 18 29 249 0 3 8.6 62.1 50.0 7 25 3.6 0

I'm not following you. Is something amiss here? TIA.

Copy/Paste used to work awesome on here from PFR. Now, not so much hence the

Hasn't the code box always been necessary?

 

[redman]

testRk Week Date Tm Opp Tm Opp Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate Att Yds Y/A Rec Yds Y/R RRTD 5 1 2007 W MIN ATL 24 3 13 23 163 1 1 7.1 56.5 75.1 2 10 5.0 0 6 2 2007 L MIN @ DET 17 20 17 33 166 0 4 5.0 51.5 26.4 5 16 3.2 1 7 6 2007 W MIN @ CHI 34 31 9 23 136 1 0 5.9 39.1 73.8 0 8 7 2007 L MIN @ DAL 14 24 6 19 72 0 0 3.8 31.6 44.2 4 20 5.0 0 9 9 2007 W MIN SDG 35 17 6 12 63 0 0 5.3 50.0 65.6 2 19 9.5 0 10 11 2007 W MIN OAK 29 22 17 22 171 0 1 7.8 77.3 79.9 3 19 6.3 0 11 12 2007 W MIN @ NYG 41 17 10 12 129 1 0 10.8 83.3 139.2 5 38 7.6 0 12 13 2007 W MIN DET 42 10 18 24 204 2 1 8.5 75.0 110.4 5 20 4.0 0 13 14 2007 W MIN @ SFO 27 7 16 25 163 1 0 6.5 64.0 95.9 9 13 1.4 0 14 15 2007 W MIN CHI 20 13 18 29 249 0 3 8.6 62.1 50.0 7 25 3.6 0

I'm not following you. Is something amiss here? TIA.

Copy/Paste used to work awesome on here from PFR. Now, not so much hence the

Hasn't the code box always been necessary?

Yes, and it doesn't work now. Observe:

Rushing	  Receiving	   	Year 	Age 	Tm 	Pos 	G 	GS 	Att 	Yds 	TD 	Lng 	Y/A 	Y/G 	A/G 	Rec 	Yds 	Y/R 	TD 	Lng 	R/G 	Y/G 	YScm 	RRTD 	Fmb2004 	24 	PIT 		8 	0 	32 	186 	0 	58 	5.8 	23.3 	4.0 	3 	16 	5.3 	0 	12 	0.4 	2.0 	202 	0 	02005 	25 	PIT 	RB 	15 	15 	255 	1202 	4 	80 	4.7 	80.1 	17.0 	18 	218 	12.1 	1 	48 	1.2 	14.5 	1420 	5 	42006* 	26 	PIT 	RB 	16 	16 	337 	1494 	13 	76 	4.4 	93.4 	21.1 	31 	222 	7.2 	3 	25 	1.9 	13.9 	1716 	16 	72007 	27 	PIT 		14 	0 	320 	1317 	2 	0 	4.1 	94.1 	22.9 	23 	164 	7.1 	0 	0 	1.6 	11.7 	1481 	2 	4Career 				53 	31 	944 	4199 	19 	80 	4.4 	79.2 	17.8 	75 	620 	8.3 	4 	48 	1.4 	11.7 	4819 	23 	15

 

[dgreen]

I like the 100/300/100 feature. But, it raises a question. Why do you have that data way back, but not gamelogs before 1995?Also:

This database pre-dates the re-launch of PFR in December of 2007. Much of the data on PFR's current site is licensed from the creators of the ESPN Pro Football Encyclopedia. Under the terms of this license we are not allowed to provide a downloadable database of these stats. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will continue to use PFR as before.

Does this mean data will not be available for download beyond the current 2006 file?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Love the college pages.

 

[Doug Drinen]

Copy/Paste used to work awesome on here from PFR. Now, not so much hence the

Ah, I got you. Good point. I might be able to do something about that, though.You'll notice a CSV option on top of every table. Click it and you turn the table into raw data. Maybe we could add another option that would turn the table into pre-formatted text. I'll investigate.Thanks.

 

[Doug Drinen]

This database pre-dates the re-launch of PFR in December of 2007. Much of the data on PFR's current site is licensed from the creators of the ESPN Pro Football Encyclopedia. Under the terms of this license we are not allowed to provide a downloadable database of these stats. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will continue to use PFR as before.

Does this mean data will not be available for download beyond the current 2006 file?

I'm fairly certain that I'll be allowed to maintain the database going forward at the same scope that it always has been. I just can't release the older data and the data I didn't have before (e.g. return data, sacks, etc.)

 

[redman]

Doug, I just tried to look up Riggins' career playoff stats, something I used to be able to do on your site (big fan, BTW), but couldn't find them. Did I miss how to do that or are they not up yet?

 

[candy bar]

Doug, I just tried to look up Riggins' career playoff stats, something I used to be able to do on your site (big fan, BTW), but couldn't find them. Did I miss how to do that or are they not up yet?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...00_playoffs.htm

 

[Doug Drinen]

Doug, I just tried to look up Riggins' career playoff stats, something I used to be able to do on your site (big fan, BTW), but couldn't find them. Did I miss how to do that or are they not up yet?

Look up a few posts They're still there

 

[Tau837]

* In addition to pro bowl appearances, we now have all-pro selections.

Doug, I posted this in the PFR blog comments but didn't see any response:

Where did the All Pro information come from? I have always wanted a source of that info, and the only one I was aware of online was the All NFL info at football.about.com. But now I think I don’t understand the difference between All Pro selections and All NFL selections... as an example, your 1991 All Pro team lists 7 CBs, but the 1991 All NFL team at about.com lists 3, and only 6 CBs made the Pro Bowl. Will you please explain this? If it turns out this is because you are including multiple All Pro teams, is there some way to distinguish them (e.g., is the AP All Pro team the “official” one)?

Can you address this? TIA.I love the changes in general. Once the dust settles and you work through the problems associated with the update, I'd love to see you add split stats, like those found at ESPN.com.

Thanks for your hard work and dedication in this area. Keep up the good work.

 

[Doug Drinen]

* In addition to pro bowl appearances, we now have all-pro selections.

Doug, I posted this in the PFR blog comments but didn't see any response:

Where did the All Pro information come from? I have always wanted a source of that info, and the only one I was aware of online was the All NFL info at football.about.com. But now I think I don’t understand the difference between All Pro selections and All NFL selections... as an example, your 1991 All Pro team lists 7 CBs, but the 1991 All NFL team at about.com lists 3, and only 6 CBs made the Pro Bowl. Will you please explain this? If it turns out this is because you are including multiple All Pro teams, is there some way to distinguish them (e.g., is the AP All Pro team the “official” one)?

Can you address this? TIA.I love the changes in general. Once the dust settles and you work through the problems associated with the update, I'd love to see you add split stats, like those found at ESPN.com.

Thanks for your hard work and dedication in this area. Keep up the good work.

Sorry JWB, it's been pretty crazy keeping up with everything.Right now, what we have is all-pro information from essentially every organization that named a team in a given year. It's all mushed together. If you were named to the first or the second team by the AP or the UPI or the Sporting News or whatever, then you are an All-Pro. One project that's on our medium-term to-do list (i.e. not this month, but hopefully in the offseason (but no guarantees)) is to disaggregate that info and list specifically who was on which team.

 

[Tau837]

* In addition to pro bowl appearances, we now have all-pro selections.

Doug, I posted this in the PFR blog comments but didn't see any response:

Where did the All Pro information come from? I have always wanted a source of that info, and the only one I was aware of online was the All NFL info at football.about.com. But now I think I don’t understand the difference between All Pro selections and All NFL selections... as an example, your 1991 All Pro team lists 7 CBs, but the 1991 All NFL team at about.com lists 3, and only 6 CBs made the Pro Bowl. Will you please explain this? If it turns out this is because you are including multiple All Pro teams, is there some way to distinguish them (e.g., is the AP All Pro team the “official” one)?

Can you address this? TIA.I love the changes in general. Once the dust settles and you work through the problems associated with the update, I'd love to see you add split stats, like those found at ESPN.com.

Thanks for your hard work and dedication in this area. Keep up the good work.

Sorry JWB, it's been pretty crazy keeping up with everything.Right now, what we have is all-pro information from essentially every organization that named a team in a given year. It's all mushed together. If you were named to the first or the second team by the AP or the UPI or the Sporting News or whatever, then you are an All-Pro. One project that's on our medium-term to-do list (i.e. not this month, but hopefully in the offseason (but no guarantees)) is to disaggregate that info and list specifically who was on which team.

Thanks for explaining. I figured it must be something like that, when there are fewer Pro Bowlers at a position in a given year than All Pros using your site info.I was excited to see that you were going to have All Pro info, because I find All Pro selections to be more valuable than Pro Bowls in terms of assessing players. But the inclusion of all the teams and both first and second team leaves me thinking the about.com info is more relevant for that purpose for now. Glad it is on your priority list somewhere to address this.

Again, love the site.

 

[Doug Drinen]

testRk Week Date Tm Opp Tm Opp Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate Att Yds Y/A Rec Yds Y/R RRTD 5 1 2007 W MIN ATL 24 3 13 23 163 1 1 7.1 56.5 75.1 2 10 5.0 0 6 2 2007 L MIN @ DET 17 20 17 33 166 0 4 5.0 51.5 26.4 5 16 3.2 1 7 6 2007 W MIN @ CHI 34 31 9 23 136 1 0 5.9 39.1 73.8 0 8 7 2007 L MIN @ DAL 14 24 6 19 72 0 0 3.8 31.6 44.2 4 20 5.0 0 9 9 2007 W MIN SDG 35 17 6 12 63 0 0 5.3 50.0 65.6 2 19 9.5 0 10 11 2007 W MIN OAK 29 22 17 22 171 0 1 7.8 77.3 79.9 3 19 6.3 0 11 12 2007 W MIN @ NYG 41 17 10 12 129 1 0 10.8 83.3 139.2 5 38 7.6 0 12 13 2007 W MIN DET 42 10 18 24 204 2 1 8.5 75.0 110.4 5 20 4.0 0 13 14 2007 W MIN @ SFO 27 7 16 25 163 1 0 6.5 64.0 95.9 9 13 1.4 0 14 15 2007 W MIN CHI 20 13 18 29 249 0 3 8.6 62.1 50.0 7 25 3.6 0

Hey reg, we've got the PRE feature working. On the top of (almost) any table, just click PRE and it will give you a table that should paste nicely. Like this (2003 Vikes' game results):

Scor Scor Offe  Offe  Offe  Offe Offe Defe  Defe  Defe  Defe DefeWeek			  Date   Rec				Opp   Tm  Opp 1stD TotYd PassY RushY   TO 1stD TotYd PassY RushY   TO1	  Sun  September7 W  10	GreenBayPackers   30   25   21   337   183   154	2   22   304   242	62	52	  Sun September14 W  20	   ChicagoBears   24   13   25   400   198   202	1   10   208   128	80	13	  Sun September21 W  30	   DetroitLions   23   13   14   414   287   127	1   22   302   225	77	34	  Sun September28 W  40  SanFrancisco49ers   35	7   19   354   252   102		18   372   227   145	35	  Sun	October5 W  50	 AtlantaFalcons   39   26   16   399   233   166	1   21   440   336   104	36									   ByeWeek																  7	  Sun   October19 W  60	  DenverBroncos   28   20   14   340   268	72		27   321   183   138	38	  Sun   October26 L  61	  NewYorkGiants   17   29   22   359   222   137	2   26   450   367	83	19	  Sun   November2 L  62	GreenBayPackers   27   30   20   323   198   125		24   451   190   261	110	 Sun   November9 L  63   SanDiegoChargers   28   42   27   460   350   110	2   26   458   247   211	 11	 Sun  November16 L  64	 OaklandRaiders   18   28   24   467   373	94	6   19   375   184   191	212	 Sun  November23 W  74	   DetroitLions   24   14   18   307   186   121	2   16   241   167	74	413	 Sun  November30 L  75	   St.LouisRams   17   48   25   465   276   189	3   21   396   255   141	114	 Sun   December7 W  85	SeattleSeahawks   34	7   22   465   272   193		13   258   202	56	315	 Sun  December14 L  86	   ChicagoBears   10   13   22   393   215   178	1   15   232   145	87	 16	 Sat  December20 W  96   KansasCityChiefs   45   20   27   469   246   223	1   21   329   224   105	417	 Sun  December28 L  97   ArizonaCardinals   17   18   20   342   192   150	2   15   219   155	64	1

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Will there be a notice on the site when the 2007 stats are all in there?

 

[AB in DC]

This database pre-dates the re-launch of PFR in December of 2007. Much of the data on PFR's current site is licensed from the creators of the ESPN Pro Football Encyclopedia. Under the terms of this license we are not allowed to provide a downloadable database of these stats. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will continue to use PFR as before.

Does this mean data will not be available for download beyond the current 2006 file?

I'm fairly certain that I'll be allowed to maintain the database going forward at the same scope that it always has been. I just can't release the older data and the data I didn't have before (e.g. return data, sacks, etc.)

Bump. I take it you won't have any 2007 downloadable stats after all?

 

[reg]

abrecher:

This database pre-dates the re-launch of PFR in December of 2007. Much of the data on PFR's current site is licensed from the creators of the ESPN Pro Football Encyclopedia. Under the terms of this license we are not allowed to provide a downloadable database of these stats. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will continue to use PFR as before.

 

[AB in DC]

abrecher:

This database pre-dates the re-launch of PFR in December of 2007. Much of the data on PFR's current site is licensed from the creators of the ESPN Pro Football Encyclopedia. Under the terms of this license we are not allowed to provide a downloadable database of these stats. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will continue to use PFR as before.

Thanks so much for quoting again what I had already quoted in my original post.

 

[reg]

oops sorry dude, just read the last post.

 

[thejag]

It's stuff like this that makes this site a goldmine. Checking out players born on my kids' birthdays. 7/7 provided this set of brothers. Born exactly one year apart, both make the NFL. Both 6'0", one 184 lbs. the other 185.

33 Vince Heflin WR 1959 1982 1986 0 0 0 47 9 140 1 46

34 Victor Heflin DB 1960 1983 1984 0 0 0 24

Just love this kind of stuff.