PFT: Packers Talking Trade with Vikings? (1 Viewer)

[mozzy84]

Always nice to see objectivity go out the windown in the midst of a intra-division rivalry.

Vikings fans are delusional if they think that Favre isn't a dramatic improvement over Jackson in 2008. Before you react - stop and reread the last sentence. I said "in 2008." Even the most passionate TJ supporter has to acknowledge that he's a developmental QB prospect with absolutely no guarantees as to where he'll end up, or even that he'll keep improving.

Frankly, I think TJ's ceiling is somewhere around Gus Frerotte's (a guy on your roster too, coincidentally enough) who can spot start for teams and win games, but who you don't want as your starter long term. And for now, I'd probably trust Frerotte as my starter more than TJ just because I can rely upon a veteran to avoid mistakes more than a young QB.

Regardless, outside of the QB position, the Vikings are in the top 10 of teams with the most talent, and playing in the weaker conference have a great opportunity to make a strong playoff run. Choosing to force the rest of the team to wait while you develop Jackson, instead of acquiring a guy like Favre, is insanity under the circumstances.

Obviously, the cost for acquiring Favre needs to be acceptable, but that's a separate issue. I'm just addressing the notion that TJ is good enough that you don't need Favre.

have any vikings fans said he's not? of course he is, he's just not worth a 1st round pick at this stage of the game.

BTW- given that the first rounder that they'd give up (assuming of course that that's indeed the price) is likely to be in the last 8 picks or so of that round, doesn't that make the price much more palatable? Isn't the 1.26, for example, worth giving up to have a legit shot at a Super Bowl?

they make it to the super bowl and its a first, if not its a 3rd or 4th, I would be good with that. It would have to be conditional if they give up a first for a guy who will play probably one year.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.

What is it with the Vikings' fans? You'd think that none of them actually watched the games last year. When your rivalry with GB outweighs your willingness to do what it takes to win the SB then you know you aren't mentally stable.If they get what they wish for all they're going to have is a few years with one of the most talented RBs ever and nothing to show for it. AD will just be Billy Sims II.

Look, I admit that my post above was emotionally tinged. And it's a way to vent Pre-Favre. Everything changes when a deal is actually done, cuz then he's your guy.After calming down following Mort's "1st Rd and a player" talk, I've clarified my position, and Christo hit it on the head. I've always given the team management/coaches great latitude because of course they know far more than the fans and media. If they believe a player will make the team better, then you go get him. And I'm smart enough to know that a SB with Favre > No SB w/o Favre. It's part of the game. But you can't blame me for hating that f.

 

[jestertj]

Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.

Actually, with the proper COACHING and the potential of the Vikings defense, I think they have a shot now.Favre can be coached out of being an INT machine if he has a good defense and a rushing game.

Yeah right!

 

[Donnybrook]

Green Bays cards are all face up on the table. Here is what we know:

1. GB is desperate to get rid of him. Paying him 20 M to stay home says it all.

2. No other team in the NFL is interested in him. If they were why would they be interested in doing a deal with the Vikings

3. His contract is a backbreaker. Probably the reason that no one wants to trade for him.

4. He will probably only play for a single season. He has been talking retirement for the last three years.

Is Favre better than Jackson? No ####. But giving up a first under the present circumstances would be silly.

 

[Texican]

IF Favre gets traded to Minn, what would be the best move? Move him right away? Keep him and trade away your original #1 QB? Or ....... ?