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Philanthropy and Who Benefits Most (1 Viewer)

Interesting article on philanthropy and the super-rich.  It's a long article and covers a lot of ground.  At one point, it makes a somewhat compelling argument for removing tax breaks from charitable gifts.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/08/how-philanthropy-benefits-the-super-rich?utm_source=digg
Interesting read. But removing the tax exemption for charitable giving would be devastating to countless charities doing good in the community. 

 
Interesting read. But removing the tax exemption for charitable giving would be devastating to countless charities doing good in the community. 
Of course.  It's an interesting debate, in that the unfettered tax exemption for "pretty much anything that calls themselves a non-profit" clearly has negative consequences, but so does removing it.  Trying to thread the needle via policy has obvious issues as well.

 
Interesting read. But removing the tax exemption for charitable giving would be devastating to countless charities doing good in the community. 
I think one of the points of the beginning of the article is that in terms of numbers "the countless charities doing good in the community", or as it put it later in the article "can help empower ordinary people" are, in terms of donations the exceptions.   While I don't want to sound dismissive, we shouldn't be creating overall policy based around the exceptions.

And I get it as I understand the challenges of one of your major concerns in life being a disease that 30,000 out of 330,000,000 Americans have or 70,000 of 7,594,000,000 of the world population.  (This is Cystic Fibrosis which killed my baby sister almost 40 years ago.  I think your own concern has roughly the same kind of rarity.)  And I get that the break through treatment for some about a decade ago came because the CF Foundation gave up on government and market interests aligning and invested directly into private sector research companies.  So I get the "small number" exceptions and the good that charity can do and am not suggesting that we don't care.    I just think that we can find a way to keep these charities getting their pennies while stopping the funding of small fortunes [by tax payers] to the latest cathedrals and power grabs of the rich.  Sure we will probably make mistakes and do harm here and there as we move to a greater good, but I think we are overdue to take the journey. And I'd like to think that the need for good many of these countless charities goes away.

I pray for the day that the CFF can close its doors!  I pray for the day that no one quite remembers why it was needed to begin with.  I doubt I'll see it unless there is some form of awareness in an afterlife.

 
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Of course.  It's an interesting debate, in that the unfettered tax exemption for "pretty much anything that calls themselves a non-profit" clearly has negative consequences, but so does removing it.  Trying to thread the needle via policy has obvious issues as well.
I dont think it would be hard to thread the needle at all. Would be pretty easy to set rules for charities and enforce them in a revenue neutral manner. In other words, no deduction on monies you still control or benefit from. You could also group charities into buckets and cap the amount of deductible donations per bucket. 

It just will never happen because the politicians that would need to pass such a thing wont even touch it, because...money. 

 
I dont think it would be hard to thread the needle at all. Would be pretty easy to set rules for charities and enforce them in a revenue neutral manner. In other words, no deduction on monies you still control or benefit from. You could also group charities into buckets and cap the amount of deductible donations per bucket. 

It just will never happen because the politicians that would need to pass such a thing wont even touch it, because...money
I think the two portions of your post that I bolded are in direct opposition to one another.  That is, one of the issues to which I was alluding is giving politicians the ability to determine which charities are worthy and which are not.

As a general rule, I think we should strive to remove the ability of politicians to pick winners and losers, rather than increase that ability.  Not to change the topic, but that's exactly one of the reasons I like BIG/UBI as opposed to our current mishmash of welfare and social safety net programs.

 
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I think the two portions of your post that I bolded are in direct opposition to one another.  That is, one of the issues to which I was alluding is giving politicians the ability to determine which charities are worthy and which are not.
They dont have to determine which are worthy and which are not. 

 
I dont think it would be hard to thread the needle at all. Would be pretty easy to set rules for charities and enforce them in a revenue neutral manner. In other words, no deduction on monies you still control or benefit from. You could also group charities into buckets and cap the amount of deductible donations per bucket. 

It just will never happen because the politicians that would need to pass such a thing wont even touch it, because...money. 
The entire problem with making charities and their donation tax exempt is that you are left with the government deciding what is and what is not a charity.  In the Scientology documentary "Going Clear" there is a segment on when Scientology and all of its profit centers were formally labeled "church".  Part of that segment is a discussion on how such a decision is hard and whether or not some IRS bureaucrat is the one that should make it.  The same issue was at the center of the IRS "Tea Party" Scandal.  So maybe the decision is removed from the two conservative employees in Cincinnati creating a short cut as the demands on their jobs become overwhelming and place it higher up in government.  Is there such a place in government where such a decision should be made?   Absent hiring me I don't really want government picking and choosing what qualifies and what doesn't.  And most people seem to agree as with a few exceptions just about anything that wants to get called a charity gets the status.  I'd just prefer we go the other way and nothing gets the special tax status.  And then work on the little bit (in comparison to the overall scope) of harm that results.

 
I think the two portions of your post that I bolded are in direct opposition to one another.  That is, one of the issues to which I was alluding is giving politicians the ability to determine which charities are worthy and which are not.
They dont have to determine which are worthy and which are not. 
Once again I took too long.

But the question is why should my tax dollars being used to fund unworthy charities?  And when this happens is it not at the expense of worthy charities? (Ignoring other possible good that could at least theoretically come from those tax dollars.)

 
Once again I took too long.

But the question is why should my tax dollars being used to fund unworthy charities?  And when this happens is it not at the expense of worthy charities? (Ignoring other possible good that could at least theoretically come from those tax dollars.)
Why would you donate to unworthy charities? 

 
I think one of the points of the beginning of the article is that in terms of numbers "the countless charities doing good in the community", or as it put it later in the article "can help empower ordinary people" are, in terms of donations the exceptions.   While I don't want to sound dismissive, we shouldn't be creating overall policy based around the exceptions.

And I get it as I understand the challenges of one of your major concerns in life being a disease that 30,000 out of 330,000,000 Americans have or 70,000 of 7,594,000,000 of the world population.  (This is Cystic Fibrosis which killed my baby sister almost 40 years ago.  I think your own concern has roughly the same kind of rarity.)  And I get that the break through treatment for some about a decade ago came because the CF Foundation gave up on government and market interests aligning and invested directly into private sector research companies.  So I get the "small number" exceptions and the good that charity can do and am not suggesting that we don't care.    I just think that we can find a way to keep these charities getting their pennies while stopping the funding of small fortunes [by tax payers] to the latest cathedrals and power grabs of the rich.  Sure we will probably make mistakes and do harm here and there as we move to a greater good, but I think we are overdue to take the journey. And I'd like to think that the need for good many of these countless charities goes away.

I pray for the day that the CFF can close its doors!  I pray for the day that no one quite remembers why it was needed to begin with.  I doubt I'll see it unless there is some form of awareness in an afterlife.
Yeah, I’d like to see a breakdown of charitable giving in the US. I get that churches and schools likely get a lot. I wouldn’t categorically write those off as not doing good in the community. And sometimes I hear criticism of rich people donating to the arts. While those donations do not necessarily help the poor, they do nevertheless provide cultural benefits to the community.

And I’m so sorry to hear of the loss of your sister. I can imagine how much that has impacted you in your life. 

 
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