Philosophical debate with RTSports (1 Viewer)

[JimOtto#2]

I set up a playoff fantasy league at RTSports. For scoring parameters they have -

1 rule defined:

For position: QBs, RBs, WRs, TEs, Ks, Def/STs

6.0 point(s) for each touchdown.

2.0 point(s) for each 2-point conversion.

They have this kind of choice for passing, recieving and rushing. So I look at and think that, yes it's possible that on a fake field goal the Special team could throw a passing score. So I include them in this choice. Then when Seahawks converted yesterday their scoring credited Hasselback, the reciever, AND THE SPECIAL TEAMS with 2 pts. I am trying to tell them it's not a special teams play. My only option is to turn DEF/ST scoring completely off for all recieving, rushing, and passing if I don't want that.

 

[GregR_2]

I set up a playoff fantasy league at RTSports. For scoring parameters they have -

1 rule defined:

For position: QBs, RBs, WRs, TEs, Ks, Def/STs

6.0 point(s) for each touchdown.

2.0 point(s) for each 2-point conversion.

They have this kind of choice for passing, recieving and rushing. So I look at and think that, yes it's possible that on a fake field goal the Special team could throw a passing score. So I include them in this choice. Then when Seahawks converted yesterday their scoring credited Hasselback, the reciever, AND THE SPECIAL TEAMS with 2 pts. I am trying to tell them it's not a special teams play. My only option is to turn DEF/ST scoring completely off for all recieving, rushing, and passing if I don't want that.

If it were a fake field goal then it wouldn't be a special teams play. No kick would take place which would make it an offensive play. So yes, you should have had the receiving/rushing/passing TDs turned off for special teams since it's impossible for them to get them. Best they could do would be something like a fumble recovery TD (blocked FG picked up by other team -> force fumble -> recover and return it for TD).

 

[JimOtto#2]

A fake field goal is a special teams play for fantasy purposes. I respect you GregR, but think you are way off on that one. They line up for a field goal and then throw a pass for a score. If I have that DEF/ST on my fantasy squad I expect to get 6 pts credit.

What offensive players are on the field? What fantasy player would you see getting credit for that?

 

[smcindoe]

A fake field goal is a special teams play for fantasy purposes. I respect you GregR, but think you are way off on that one. They line up for a field goal and then throw a pass for a score. If I have that DEF/ST on my fantasy squad I expect to get 6 pts credit.

I've never seen fake kicks scored for ST/Def in any of my leagues.

 

[GregR_2]

A fake field goal is a special teams play for fantasy purposes. I respect you GregR, but think you are way off on that one. They line up for a field goal and then throw a pass for a score. If I have that DEF/ST on my fantasy squad I expect to get 6 pts credit.What offensive players are on the field? What fantasy player would you see getting credit for that?

It's an offensive play. The guy who threw the TD should get a TD pass and the guy who caught it should get a receiving pass, the same as every other offensive play.Why do you even have special teams in fantasy? To put the kicking return game into the fantasy equation. So why try to pigeonhole a play as special teams when it wasn't a kicking play... when the only reason you consider it to be "special teams" is because the team deceived you into thinking it would be.Your system has problems classifying clearly what is or isn't a special teams play, not me. Mine is extremely clear... if a kick or an attempted kick took place it's a special teams play.But what are you going to use for your basis? The presence of a kicker on the field? The formation they line up in? By those measures, a QB who pooch punts on 3rd and long isn't a special teams play... so how are you going to rule the TD when a safety grabs it and runs it back? What will you do when a QB out of a regular formation drop kicks the ball through the goalposts? Why is it a special teams play in those cases? Because a kick took place.So why not just go with that in the first place and get rid of all the ambiguity of what is a special teams unit and what is a special teams formation? The way you are advocating you want to score an offensive play that pretended to be a special teams play, as a special teams play. So what do you plan to do about a special teams play that pretended to be an offensive play? Why not just call everything what it is, and not what it pretended to be... if it wasn't a kick it was an offensive play.ETA: And thank you for the kind words, they were appreciated.