Pick #6 (1 Viewer)

[Deuce'sWild]

Pick #6, not a place I'm looking forward to this year, simply because it seems too early to go WR in the 1st but the RB talent from RB 5-10 doesn't really seperate itself enough to justify taking a RB either. However, let's explore what owners are planning to do from this spot in 2009.

According to ADP, RBs available are:

1.06 Steven Jackson RB STL 6.1 2.0 1.01 2.04 471

6 1.07 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD 7.1 2.5 1.01 4.01 549

7 1.09 Chris Johnson RB TEN 8.6 2.9 1.02 3.07 524

8 1.11 Steve Slaton RB HOU 10.6 3.1 1.03 3.06 630

9 1.11 Deangelo Williams RB CAR 11.4 3.2 1.03 2.09 583

10 2.01 Frank Gore RB SF 13.3 3.0 1.05 2.09 575

WRs available are:

Take your pick of the litter

I've done numerous mocks, going WR, RB....WR, WR.....RB, RB. One thing that always seems to occur is that RB talent falls, but there just isn't much to choose from after Rd3 at WR.

Round 4 WRs

15 4.01 Brandon Marshall WR DEN 36.8 4.7 3.02 5.05 527

16 4.04 Roy Williams WR DAL 40.1 4.9 3.03 5.07 484

17 4.05 Chad Ocho Cinco WR CIN 40.9 4.8 3.04 6.11 509

18 4.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE 44.1 5.7 3.05 8.06 470

19 4.08 Vincent Jackson WR SD 44.2 5.9 3.04 6.02 489

20 5.01 Anthony Gonzalez WR IND 49.0 6.7 3.08 7.01 522

21 5.06 DeSean Jackson WR PHI 54.0 7.2 3.11 7.07 494

These guys have a lot of question marks, but are solid WRs capable of putting up big numbers. I like Ochocinco and Edwards of this group, but don't trust either one of them.

Round 4 RBs

17 3.09 Ryan Grant RB GB 32.5 4.7 2.08 5.05 574

18 3.11 Kevin Smith RB DET 35.5 5.2 2.10 5.05 545

19 4.06 Marshawn Lynch RB BUF 42.1 6.2 3.02 6.02 486

20 4.07 Reggie Bush RB NO 42.8 6.7 3.01 6.05 488

21 4.09 Knowshon Moreno RB DEN 45.5 7.9 2.12 9.07 560

22 4.10 Darren McFadden RB OAK 46.2 7.0 3.04 6.09 593

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

The RBs in this round aren't without risk either, but there is a lot of potential value here with Grant and K. Smith being the workworses for their teams. And Moreno could be this years surprise rookie like Slaton or Forte was last year.

Take a look one round later at the RBs....

Rd 5

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

25 5.07 Thomas Jones RB NYJ 55.1 8.8 3.08 7.07 508

26 5.08 Larry Johnson RB KC 55.9 7.6 3.12 7.12 575

27 5.11 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR 58.9 7.8 4.02 7.10 554

28 6.02 Willie Parker RB PIT 61.5 8.4 4.03 7.11 485

29 6.03 Chris Wells RB ARI 62.6 7.6 4.06 8.06 545

All of these guys are capable of being a solid RB2 for your squad. Addai, Jones and Johnson have been top 10 performers, going in the 5th round.

It's been said numerous times how much RB depth there is this year. It is very hard for me, personally, to take a WR in the 1st and maybe even 2nd round, but I can't help but think that's the best scenario.

You're talking about....

WR Fitz

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

RB Ronnie Brown

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

or

WR Fitz

RB Gore, Portis, Jacobs

WR White or Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Not bad,......vs

RB S Jackson

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

WR Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Discuss...

 

[FF EGGHEAD]

Pick #6, not a place I'm looking forward to this year, simply because it seems too early to go WR in the 1st but the RB talent from RB 5-10 doesn't really seperate itself enough to justify taking a RB either. However, let's explore what owners are planning to do from this spot in 2009.According to ADP, RBs available are:1.06 Steven Jackson RB STL 6.1 2.0 1.01 2.04 471 6 1.07 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD 7.1 2.5 1.01 4.01 549 7 1.09 Chris Johnson RB TEN 8.6 2.9 1.02 3.07 524 8 1.11 Steve Slaton RB HOU 10.6 3.1 1.03 3.06 630 9 1.11 Deangelo Williams RB CAR 11.4 3.2 1.03 2.09 583 10 2.01 Frank Gore RB SF 13.3 3.0 1.05 2.09 575WRs available are:Take your pick of the litterI've done numerous mocks, going WR, RB....WR, WR.....RB, RB. One thing that always seems to occur is that RB talent falls, but there just isn't much to choose from after Rd3 at WR.Round 4 WRs15 4.01 Brandon Marshall WR DEN 36.8 4.7 3.02 5.05 527 16 4.04 Roy Williams WR DAL 40.1 4.9 3.03 5.07 484 17 4.05 Chad Ocho Cinco WR CIN 40.9 4.8 3.04 6.11 509 18 4.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE 44.1 5.7 3.05 8.06 470 19 4.08 Vincent Jackson WR SD 44.2 5.9 3.04 6.02 489 20 5.01 Anthony Gonzalez WR IND 49.0 6.7 3.08 7.01 522 21 5.06 DeSean Jackson WR PHI 54.0 7.2 3.11 7.07 494These guys have a lot of question marks, but are solid WRs capable of putting up big numbers. I like Ochocinco and Edwards of this group, but don't trust either one of them.Round 4 RBs17 3.09 Ryan Grant RB GB 32.5 4.7 2.08 5.05 574 18 3.11 Kevin Smith RB DET 35.5 5.2 2.10 5.05 545 19 4.06 Marshawn Lynch RB BUF 42.1 6.2 3.02 6.02 486 20 4.07 Reggie Bush RB NO 42.8 6.7 3.01 6.05 488 21 4.09 Knowshon Moreno RB DEN 45.5 7.9 2.12 9.07 560 22 4.10 Darren McFadden RB OAK 46.2 7.0 3.04 6.09 593 23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563 24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478The RBs in this round aren't without risk either, but there is a lot of potential value here with Grant and K. Smith being the workworses for their teams. And Moreno could be this years surprise rookie like Slaton or Forte was last year. Take a look one round later at the RBs....Rd 523 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563 24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478 25 5.07 Thomas Jones RB NYJ 55.1 8.8 3.08 7.07 508 26 5.08 Larry Johnson RB KC 55.9 7.6 3.12 7.12 575 27 5.11 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR 58.9 7.8 4.02 7.10 554 28 6.02 Willie Parker RB PIT 61.5 8.4 4.03 7.11 485 29 6.03 Chris Wells RB ARI 62.6 7.6 4.06 8.06 545All of these guys are capable of being a solid RB2 for your squad. Addai, Jones and Johnson have been top 10 performers, going in the 5th round.It's been said numerous times how much RB depth there is this year. It is very hard for me, personally to take a WR in the 1st and 2nd, but I can't help but think that's the best scenario. You're talking about....WR FitzWR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre JohnsonRB Ronnie BrownWR Ochocinco or EdwardsRB Larry JohnsonorWR FitzRB Gore, Portis, JacobsWR White or BoldinWR Ochocinco or EdwardsRB Larry JohnsonNot bad,......vsRB S JacksonWR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson WR BoldinWR Ochocinco or EdwardsRB Larry JohnsonDiscuss...

Assuming PPR, I'd either go Fitz or SlatonFitz/Wayne would be a nice start and then Ronnie Brown/Bush etcI don't see Boldin lasting to you in the 3rd (if it is a 12 team league) but if he does, grab him.Slaton-Wayne/Calvin-BoldinFitz-Portis-Boldin/Jennings

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Pick #6, not a place I'm looking forward to this year, simply because it seems too early to go WR in the 1st but the RB talent from RB 5-10 doesn't really seperate itself enough to justify taking a RB either. However, let's explore what owners are planning to do from this spot in 2009.

According to ADP, RBs available are:

1.06 Steven Jackson RB STL 6.1 2.0 1.01 2.04 471

6 1.07 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD 7.1 2.5 1.01 4.01 549

7 1.09 Chris Johnson RB TEN 8.6 2.9 1.02 3.07 524

8 1.11 Steve Slaton RB HOU 10.6 3.1 1.03 3.06 630

9 1.11 Deangelo Williams RB CAR 11.4 3.2 1.03 2.09 583

10 2.01 Frank Gore RB SF 13.3 3.0 1.05 2.09 575

WRs available are:

Take your pick of the litter

I've done numerous mocks, going WR, RB....WR, WR.....RB, RB. One thing that always seems to occur is that RB talent falls, but there just isn't much to choose from after Rd3 at WR.

Round 4 WRs

15 4.01 Brandon Marshall WR DEN 36.8 4.7 3.02 5.05 527

16 4.04 Roy Williams WR DAL 40.1 4.9 3.03 5.07 484

17 4.05 Chad Ocho Cinco WR CIN 40.9 4.8 3.04 6.11 509

18 4.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE 44.1 5.7 3.05 8.06 470

19 4.08 Vincent Jackson WR SD 44.2 5.9 3.04 6.02 489

20 5.01 Anthony Gonzalez WR IND 49.0 6.7 3.08 7.01 522

21 5.06 DeSean Jackson WR PHI 54.0 7.2 3.11 7.07 494

These guys have a lot of question marks, but are solid WRs capable of putting up big numbers. I like Ochocinco and Edwards of this group, but don't trust either one of them.

Round 4 RBs

17 3.09 Ryan Grant RB GB 32.5 4.7 2.08 5.05 574

18 3.11 Kevin Smith RB DET 35.5 5.2 2.10 5.05 545

19 4.06 Marshawn Lynch RB BUF 42.1 6.2 3.02 6.02 486

20 4.07 Reggie Bush RB NO 42.8 6.7 3.01 6.05 488

21 4.09 Knowshon Moreno RB DEN 45.5 7.9 2.12 9.07 560

22 4.10 Darren McFadden RB OAK 46.2 7.0 3.04 6.09 593

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

The RBs in this round aren't without risk either, but there is a lot of potential value here with Grant and K. Smith being the workworses for their teams. And Moreno could be this years surprise rookie like Slaton or Forte was last year.

Take a look one round later at the RBs....

Rd 5

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

25 5.07 Thomas Jones RB NYJ 55.1 8.8 3.08 7.07 508

26 5.08 Larry Johnson RB KC 55.9 7.6 3.12 7.12 575

27 5.11 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR 58.9 7.8 4.02 7.10 554

28 6.02 Willie Parker RB PIT 61.5 8.4 4.03 7.11 485

29 6.03 Chris Wells RB ARI 62.6 7.6 4.06 8.06 545

All of these guys are capable of being a solid RB2 for your squad. Addai, Jones and Johnson have been top 10 performers, going in the 5th round.

It's been said numerous times how much RB depth there is this year. It is very hard for me, personally to take a WR in the 1st and 2nd, but I can't help but think that's the best scenario.

You're talking about....

WR Fitz

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

RB Ronnie Brown

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

or

WR Fitz

RB Gore, Portis, Jacobs

WR White or Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Not bad,......vs

RB S Jackson

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

WR Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Discuss...

Assuming PPR, I'd either go Fitz or SlatonFitz/Wayne would be a nice start and then Ronnie Brown/Bush etc

I don't see Boldin lasting to you in the 3rd (if it is a 12 team league) but if he does, grab him.

Slaton-Wayne/Calvin-Boldin

Fitz-Portis-Boldin/Jennings

Current ADP8 2.12 Roddy White WR ATL 23.5 3.7 2.01 4.07 538

9 3.01 Marques Colston WR NO 25.1 3.7 2.03 4.03 549

10 3.02 Anquan Boldin WR ARI 25.6 3.5 2.04 4.01 579

11 3.06 Dwayne Bowe WR KC 29.9 3.6 2.08 4.09 508

12 3.07 Terrell Owens WR BUF 30.7 4.0 2.08 4.09 525

13 3.08 Wes Welker WR NE 31.8 4.4 2.08 6.06 505

14 3.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR SEA 35.1 4.4 2.11 4.12 493

It's close, as #6 would be picking at 3.06 here. But, it wouldn't take a major slip for him to fall there. But good point, you may end up with Bowe instead, which isn't too bad.

 

[badmother]

Pick #6, not a place I'm looking forward to this year, simply because it seems too early to go WR in the 1st but the RB talent from RB 5-10 doesn't really seperate itself enough to justify taking a RB either. However, let's explore what owners are planning to do from this spot in 2009.According to ADP, RBs available are:1.06 Steven Jackson RB STL 6.1 2.0 1.01 2.04 471 6 1.07 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD 7.1 2.5 1.01 4.01 549 7 1.09 Chris Johnson RB TEN 8.6 2.9 1.02 3.07 524 8 1.11 Steve Slaton RB HOU 10.6 3.1 1.03 3.06 630 9 1.11 Deangelo Williams RB CAR 11.4 3.2 1.03 2.09 583 10 2.01 Frank Gore RB SF 13.3 3.0 1.05 2.09 575WRs available are:Take your pick of the litterI've done numerous mocks, going WR, RB....WR, WR.....RB, RB. One thing that always seems to occur is that RB talent falls, but there just isn't much to choose from after Rd3 at WR.Round 4 WRs15 4.01 Brandon Marshall WR DEN 36.8 4.7 3.02 5.05 527 16 4.04 Roy Williams WR DAL 40.1 4.9 3.03 5.07 484 17 4.05 Chad Ocho Cinco WR CIN 40.9 4.8 3.04 6.11 509 18 4.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE 44.1 5.7 3.05 8.06 470 19 4.08 Vincent Jackson WR SD 44.2 5.9 3.04 6.02 489 20 5.01 Anthony Gonzalez WR IND 49.0 6.7 3.08 7.01 522 21 5.06 DeSean Jackson WR PHI 54.0 7.2 3.11 7.07 494These guys have a lot of question marks, but are solid WRs capable of putting up big numbers. I like Ochocinco and Edwards of this group, but don't trust either one of them.Round 4 RBs17 3.09 Ryan Grant RB GB 32.5 4.7 2.08 5.05 574 18 3.11 Kevin Smith RB DET 35.5 5.2 2.10 5.05 545 19 4.06 Marshawn Lynch RB BUF 42.1 6.2 3.02 6.02 486 20 4.07 Reggie Bush RB NO 42.8 6.7 3.01 6.05 488 21 4.09 Knowshon Moreno RB DEN 45.5 7.9 2.12 9.07 560 22 4.10 Darren McFadden RB OAK 46.2 7.0 3.04 6.09 593 23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563 24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478The RBs in this round aren't without risk either, but there is a lot of potential value here with Grant and K. Smith being the workworses for their teams. And Moreno could be this years surprise rookie like Slaton or Forte was last year. Take a look one round later at the RBs....Rd 523 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563 24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478 25 5.07 Thomas Jones RB NYJ 55.1 8.8 3.08 7.07 508 26 5.08 Larry Johnson RB KC 55.9 7.6 3.12 7.12 575 27 5.11 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR 58.9 7.8 4.02 7.10 554 28 6.02 Willie Parker RB PIT 61.5 8.4 4.03 7.11 485 29 6.03 Chris Wells RB ARI 62.6 7.6 4.06 8.06 545All of these guys are capable of being a solid RB2 for your squad. Addai, Jones and Johnson have been top 10 performers, going in the 5th round.It's been said numerous times how much RB depth there is this year. It is very hard for me, personally, to take a WR in the 1st and maybe even 2nd round, but I can't help but think that's the best scenario. You're talking about....WR FitzWR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre JohnsonRB Ronnie BrownWR Ochocinco or EdwardsRB Larry JohnsonorWR FitzRB Gore, Portis, JacobsWR White or BoldinWR Ochocinco or EdwardsRB Larry JohnsonNot bad,......vsRB S JacksonWR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson WR BoldinWR Ochocinco or EdwardsRB Larry JohnsonDiscuss...

I don't know what Mocks you've been doing or what league you play in but... in your first scenerio where you drafted fitz. Very rarely have I had A Johnson or Calvin Drop to me in the second. I think the choice is going to be R Wayne, S Smith and Jennings. But by any means starting off with Fitz and any one of those 3 is a good start. Ronnie Browns stock is starting to go up, he's going at the beg of a lot of round 3's that i'm seeing, but if he's there he's a great pick in the 3rd. The Forth and 5th rounds look solid. i like this approach.. when do you plan on taking a QB and in this format?Second Scenerio Wr Rb WR WR RBI don't think Portis Gore or Jacobs will be there and the choices at RB are going to be thing unless Westbrook slips and you want to take a chance. I don't like going WR RB in the first 2 rounds in this postion. Something i've been working on1. Rb ( Tomlinson, C johnson, S jax)2. Wr ( R Wayne, S smith3. Qb ( Rivers, Rodgers, manning if he slips4. Wr ( C Johnson B Edwards)5. Rb. ( L Johnson T Jones) - I know if Manning doesn't drop.. Rivers and Rodger are a bit of a reach here.. but it allows you to load up on Value Rb's in the 4th 5th and 6th instead of having to target a qb.. I'll only do this if a Ronnie brown or a boldin/ white don't slip to me.. There are a lot of value 3rd wr's out there that you can grab in the 7th and 8th round. I like the idea of grabbing 2 stud wr's early but I would rather take a top end Qb then draft 2 stud wr's and have one of them bust.I like your idea of loading up on wr's the only things i'd rather have is either an elite QB or TE with 2 stud WR's and taking a flyer on a couple 3rd wrs in the rounds 8-9.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I don't like taking a QB that early. And there is still a lot of value at WR in the 3rd....Boldin, White and Bowe (one of these) will likely be there.

I am probably going to wait until rd 7-9 and try to grab Schaub or Palmer (or both) and then maybe Garrard in the 12th.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Pick #6, not a place I'm looking forward to this year, simply because it seems too early to go WR in the 1st but the RB talent from RB 5-10 doesn't really seperate itself enough to justify taking a RB either. However, let's explore what owners are planning to do from this spot in 2009.

According to ADP, RBs available are:

1.06 Steven Jackson RB STL 6.1 2.0 1.01 2.04 471

6 1.07 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD 7.1 2.5 1.01 4.01 549

7 1.09 Chris Johnson RB TEN 8.6 2.9 1.02 3.07 524

8 1.11 Steve Slaton RB HOU 10.6 3.1 1.03 3.06 630

9 1.11 Deangelo Williams RB CAR 11.4 3.2 1.03 2.09 583

10 2.01 Frank Gore RB SF 13.3 3.0 1.05 2.09 575

WRs available are:

Take your pick of the litter

I've done numerous mocks, going WR, RB....WR, WR.....RB, RB. One thing that always seems to occur is that RB talent falls, but there just isn't much to choose from after Rd3 at WR.

Round 4 WRs

15 4.01 Brandon Marshall WR DEN 36.8 4.7 3.02 5.05 527

16 4.04 Roy Williams WR DAL 40.1 4.9 3.03 5.07 484

17 4.05 Chad Ocho Cinco WR CIN 40.9 4.8 3.04 6.11 509

18 4.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE 44.1 5.7 3.05 8.06 470

19 4.08 Vincent Jackson WR SD 44.2 5.9 3.04 6.02 489

20 5.01 Anthony Gonzalez WR IND 49.0 6.7 3.08 7.01 522

21 5.06 DeSean Jackson WR PHI 54.0 7.2 3.11 7.07 494

These guys have a lot of question marks, but are solid WRs capable of putting up big numbers. I like Ochocinco and Edwards of this group, but don't trust either one of them.

Round 4 RBs

17 3.09 Ryan Grant RB GB 32.5 4.7 2.08 5.05 574

18 3.11 Kevin Smith RB DET 35.5 5.2 2.10 5.05 545

19 4.06 Marshawn Lynch RB BUF 42.1 6.2 3.02 6.02 486

20 4.07 Reggie Bush RB NO 42.8 6.7 3.01 6.05 488

21 4.09 Knowshon Moreno RB DEN 45.5 7.9 2.12 9.07 560

22 4.10 Darren McFadden RB OAK 46.2 7.0 3.04 6.09 593

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

The RBs in this round aren't without risk either, but there is a lot of potential value here with Grant and K. Smith being the workworses for their teams. And Moreno could be this years surprise rookie like Slaton or Forte was last year.

Take a look one round later at the RBs....

Rd 5

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

25 5.07 Thomas Jones RB NYJ 55.1 8.8 3.08 7.07 508

26 5.08 Larry Johnson RB KC 55.9 7.6 3.12 7.12 575

27 5.11 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR 58.9 7.8 4.02 7.10 554

28 6.02 Willie Parker RB PIT 61.5 8.4 4.03 7.11 485

29 6.03 Chris Wells RB ARI 62.6 7.6 4.06 8.06 545

All of these guys are capable of being a solid RB2 for your squad. Addai, Jones and Johnson have been top 10 performers, going in the 5th round.

It's been said numerous times how much RB depth there is this year. It is very hard for me, personally, to take a WR in the 1st and maybe even 2nd round, but I can't help but think that's the best scenario.

You're talking about....

WR Fitz

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

RB Ronnie Brown

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

or

WR Fitz

RB Gore, Portis, Jacobs

WR White or Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Not bad,......vs

RB S Jackson

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

WR Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Discuss...

I don't know what Mocks you've been doing or what league you play in but... in your first scenerio where you drafted fitz. Very rarely have I had A Johnson or Calvin Drop to me in the second. I think the choice is going to be R Wayne, S Smith and Jennings. But by any means starting off with Fitz and any one of those 3 is a good start. Ronnie Browns stock is starting to go up, he's going at the beg of a lot of round 3's that i'm seeing, but if he's there he's a great pick in the 3rd. The Forth and 5th rounds look solid. i like this approach.. when do you plan on taking a QB and in this format?Second Scenerio Wr Rb WR WR RB

I don't think Portis Gore or Jacobs will be there and the choices at RB are going to be thing unless Westbrook slips and you want to take a chance. I don't like going WR RB in the first 2 rounds in this postion.

Something i've been working on

1. Rb ( Tomlinson, C johnson, S jax)

2. Wr ( R Wayne, S smith

3. Qb ( Rivers, Rodgers, manning if he slips

4. Wr ( C Johnson B Edwards)

5. Rb. ( L Johnson T Jones)

- I know if Manning doesn't drop.. Rivers and Rodger are a bit of a reach here.. but it allows you to load up on Value Rb's in the 4th 5th and 6th instead of having to target a qb.. I'll only do this if a Ronnie brown or a boldin/ white don't slip to me.. There are a lot of value 3rd wr's out there that you can grab in the 7th and 8th round. I like the idea of grabbing 2 stud wr's early but I would rather take a top end Qb then draft 2 stud wr's and have one of them bust.

I like your idea of loading up on wr's the only things i'd rather have is either an elite QB or TE with 2 stud WR's and taking a flyer on a couple 3rd wrs in the rounds 8-9.

Who is this (see bold)? You mean Ochocinco?

 

[joni mitchell]

I'll never understand the love for Steven Jackson. He's not worth a 1st round pick IMO. The team hasn't made enough changes to show that the offense will allow him to get into the end-zone more than 7 times next season.

 

[badmother]

Pick #6, not a place I'm looking forward to this year, simply because it seems too early to go WR in the 1st but the RB talent from RB 5-10 doesn't really seperate itself enough to justify taking a RB either. However, let's explore what owners are planning to do from this spot in 2009.

According to ADP, RBs available are:

1.06 Steven Jackson RB STL 6.1 2.0 1.01 2.04 471

6 1.07 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD 7.1 2.5 1.01 4.01 549

7 1.09 Chris Johnson RB TEN 8.6 2.9 1.02 3.07 524

8 1.11 Steve Slaton RB HOU 10.6 3.1 1.03 3.06 630

9 1.11 Deangelo Williams RB CAR 11.4 3.2 1.03 2.09 583

10 2.01 Frank Gore RB SF 13.3 3.0 1.05 2.09 575

WRs available are:

Take your pick of the litter

I've done numerous mocks, going WR, RB....WR, WR.....RB, RB. One thing that always seems to occur is that RB talent falls, but there just isn't much to choose from after Rd3 at WR.

Round 4 WRs

15 4.01 Brandon Marshall WR DEN 36.8 4.7 3.02 5.05 527

16 4.04 Roy Williams WR DAL 40.1 4.9 3.03 5.07 484

17 4.05 Chad Ocho Cinco WR CIN 40.9 4.8 3.04 6.11 509

18 4.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE 44.1 5.7 3.05 8.06 470

19 4.08 Vincent Jackson WR SD 44.2 5.9 3.04 6.02 489

20 5.01 Anthony Gonzalez WR IND 49.0 6.7 3.08 7.01 522

21 5.06 DeSean Jackson WR PHI 54.0 7.2 3.11 7.07 494

These guys have a lot of question marks, but are solid WRs capable of putting up big numbers. I like Ochocinco and Edwards of this group, but don't trust either one of them.

Round 4 RBs

17 3.09 Ryan Grant RB GB 32.5 4.7 2.08 5.05 574

18 3.11 Kevin Smith RB DET 35.5 5.2 2.10 5.05 545

19 4.06 Marshawn Lynch RB BUF 42.1 6.2 3.02 6.02 486

20 4.07 Reggie Bush RB NO 42.8 6.7 3.01 6.05 488

21 4.09 Knowshon Moreno RB DEN 45.5 7.9 2.12 9.07 560

22 4.10 Darren McFadden RB OAK 46.2 7.0 3.04 6.09 593

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

The RBs in this round aren't without risk either, but there is a lot of potential value here with Grant and K. Smith being the workworses for their teams. And Moreno could be this years surprise rookie like Slaton or Forte was last year.

Take a look one round later at the RBs....

Rd 5

23 5.01 Derrick Ward RB TB 48.8 7.7 3.04 7.05 563

24 5.05 Joseph Addai RB IND 52.8 8.6 3.06 7.09 478

25 5.07 Thomas Jones RB NYJ 55.1 8.8 3.08 7.07 508

26 5.08 Larry Johnson RB KC 55.9 7.6 3.12 7.12 575

27 5.11 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR 58.9 7.8 4.02 7.10 554

28 6.02 Willie Parker RB PIT 61.5 8.4 4.03 7.11 485

29 6.03 Chris Wells RB ARI 62.6 7.6 4.06 8.06 545

All of these guys are capable of being a solid RB2 for your squad. Addai, Jones and Johnson have been top 10 performers, going in the 5th round.

It's been said numerous times how much RB depth there is this year. It is very hard for me, personally, to take a WR in the 1st and maybe even 2nd round, but I can't help but think that's the best scenario.

You're talking about....

WR Fitz

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

RB Ronnie Brown

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

or

WR Fitz

RB Gore, Portis, Jacobs

WR White or Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Not bad,......vs

RB S Jackson

WR Calvin Johnson, Wayne or Andre Johnson

WR Boldin

WR Ochocinco or Edwards

RB Larry Johnson

Discuss...

I don't know what Mocks you've been doing or what league you play in but... in your first scenerio where you drafted fitz. Very rarely have I had A Johnson or Calvin Drop to me in the second. I think the choice is going to be R Wayne, S Smith and Jennings. But by any means starting off with Fitz and any one of those 3 is a good start. Ronnie Browns stock is starting to go up, he's going at the beg of a lot of round 3's that i'm seeing, but if he's there he's a great pick in the 3rd. The Forth and 5th rounds look solid. i like this approach.. when do you plan on taking a QB and in this format?Second Scenerio Wr Rb WR WR RB

I don't think Portis Gore or Jacobs will be there and the choices at RB are going to be thing unless Westbrook slips and you want to take a chance. I don't like going WR RB in the first 2 rounds in this postion.

Something i've been working on

1. Rb ( Tomlinson, C johnson, S jax)

2. Wr ( R Wayne, S smith

3. Qb ( Rivers, Rodgers, manning if he slips

4. Wr ( C Johnson B Edwards)

5. Rb. ( L Johnson T Jones)

- I know if Manning doesn't drop.. Rivers and Rodger are a bit of a reach here.. but it allows you to load up on Value Rb's in the 4th 5th and 6th instead of having to target a qb.. I'll only do this if a Ronnie brown or a boldin/ white don't slip to me.. There are a lot of value 3rd wr's out there that you can grab in the 7th and 8th round. I like the idea of grabbing 2 stud wr's early but I would rather take a top end Qb then draft 2 stud wr's and have one of them bust.

I like your idea of loading up on wr's the only things i'd rather have is either an elite QB or TE with 2 stud WR's and taking a flyer on a couple 3rd wrs in the rounds 8-9.

Who is this (see bold)? You mean Ochocinco?

Yea I refuse to call him Ochocinco.. talented but he's a nut. I've done some drafts were i've waited to take a Qb although i've gone Palmer/ M Hass... Schaub is everyones favorite sleeper Qb this year and someone will reach for him. I think one of Palmer and HAss have a better chance of having a good season. I also Like Hass's reg season schedule combined with Palmers Playoff schedule.

 

[badmother]

I'll never understand the love for Steven Jackson. He's not worth a 1st round pick IMO. The team hasn't made enough changes to show that the offense will allow him to get into the end-zone more than 7 times next season.

Althought not by much, an improved offensive line.. young receivers.. Means more relying on Jackson.. also he's in a cake devision for opposing defenses. He has no competition at Rb, No GL threats on that team besides him. The only concern is injury but isn't that a concern for everyone, its football.1350 rush 9 td 300 rec 2td is what i'd expect from him.

 

[ookook]

Was it established that this was PPR league?

Either way, I would take LaDanian there. If not, also woudl take Jackson.

I would not take a WR there (e.g., Fitz) but would prefer to go RB, WR, WR and take one of those listed in the third, then take 2nd RB in 4th or 5th depenidng on who is out there.

But I tend to like a lot of round 2 RBs too, so RB, RB, WR, WR is where I get to most often.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

just found out last night that I have the 6th pick in one of my drafts....gonna mock it up today....we get 6 points for all td's....leaning towards LT if he is there......I think Brady is going to have a gig year again with Moss/Welker/Galloway so he is a consideration as well even though I know it's not the best value....but I think you know what you get with him and he is a safe pick if not excited about the RB's....

as of now we get .33 per reception

 

[badmother]

I don't like taking a QB that early. And there is still a lot of value at WR in the 3rd....Boldin, White and Bowe (one of these) will likely be there. I am probably going to wait until rd 7-9 and try to grab Schaub or Palmer (or both) and then maybe Garrard in the 12th.

Its most likely going to be Colston/ Bowe/ TO i'd be shocked to see Boldin or White slip..but its could happen. I'm not comfortable with Bowe or TO as spending a number 3 pick . Bowe is probably going to see a lot more doubles.. the only thing i like about him is he is there only GL Tthreat.. Runs a great fade and can make that catch.. I don't see a huge upgrade from Cassel to Thigpen.. I actually thought Thigpen produced well considering his weapens. TO don't like that O line for edwards to get him the ball enough. Colston has that Surgeory but he's one i'd like to hear more about before draft day.. I think this thrid round pick is crucial and hoping that somone slips if not i'll reach for a QB and wait for the value at WR and RB in the 4-7rounds.

 

[Darko M]

I don't like taking a QB that early. And there is still a lot of value at WR in the 3rd....Boldin, White and Bowe (one of these) will likely be there. I am probably going to wait until rd 7-9 and try to grab Schaub or Palmer (or both) and then maybe Garrard in the 12th.

Wasn't Boldin's points per game the higher than any other WR last year? I seriously doubt you're getting him in the middle of the 3rd...it would take a huge run on RBs and the top 5 QBs for that to happen, which is unlikely because big name WR have all the hype in PPRs.I realistically see Boldin being the 5th WR taken in (a competitive) PPR, which realistically makes him an early to mid 2nd rounder.

 

[Darko M]

Was it established that this was PPR league?

Either way, I would take LaDanian there. If not, also woudl take Jackson.

I would not take a WR there (e.g., Fitz) but would prefer to go RB, WR, WR and take one of those listed in the third, then take 2nd RB in 4th or 5th depenidng on who is out there.

But I tend to like a lot of round 2 RBs too, so RB, RB, WR, WR is where I get to most often.

I don't think it was, but based on the players he was targeting I assumed it was.

 

[Sweet Love]

I am in an Antsports mock right now and here is what the guy in the six spot (12 team league) walked away with.

1.06 - Chris Johnson - S-Jax was gone, but the others you listed in the original post were all there

2.07 - Roddy White

3.06 - Marshawn Lynch

4.07 - Roy Williams - I drafted Vince Jackson a couple of picks after him and someone drafted Gonzalez right after me...I would have preferred one of those two over Roy

5.06 - Tony Romo - at this point WR was getting thin (Donald Driver went after Romo, as did D. Jackson) and Ward went after those two.

6.07 - Chris Wells

7.06 - Bernard Berrian (picked before the Favre news)

8.07 - Steve Breaston (Holt was still on the board)

9.06 - Michael Crabtree

10.07 - Vernon Davis

11.06 - Rashard Mendenhall

12.07 - Jerome Harrison

I like his RBs, but I am starting to realize that unless someone slips, you may want to wait on QB past round 5 if you want two quality RBs and three good receivers.

 

[billymays]

i have this spot in a ppr

my plan

1-LT

2- WR(johnsons, wayne, smith)

3- WR(boldin, welker)

4-RB

i like the potential of the fourth round backs a lot more than the potential of the wr's. i also am probably a bit higher than most on welker, i love guys with 100+ receptions.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

This was assuming NON PPR. but you can adjust to your league rules. it's just a #6 pick thread.

 

[zed2283]

i have this spot in a pprmy plan1-LT2- WR(johnsons, wayne, smith)3- WR(boldin, welker)4-RBi like the potential of the fourth round backs a lot more than the potential of the wr's. i also am probably a bit higher than most on welker, i love guys with 100+ receptions.

I have the #5 in one league, and I'm planning something similar.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

i have this spot in a pprmy plan1-LT2- WR(johnsons, wayne, smith)3- WR(boldin, welker)4-RBi like the potential of the fourth round backs a lot more than the potential of the wr's. i also am probably a bit higher than most on welker, i love guys with 100+ receptions.

I have the #5 in one league, and I'm planning something similar.

I'm telling ya though, the RBs you can get in the 5th are on par (as far as FBG's projections go) with the 4th rounders. So, why not grab another WR or QB and wait til the 5th to get your RB?

 

[Grahamburn]

i have this spot in a ppr

my plan

1-LT

2- WR(johnsons, wayne, smith)

3- WR(boldin, welker)

4-RB

i like the potential of the fourth round backs a lot more than the potential of the wr's. i also am probably a bit higher than most on welker, i love guys with 100+ receptions.

I have the #5 in one league, and I'm planning something similar.

I don't think the bolded is happening guys. Those players are rarely even making it to the 16th pick, and I doubt there's any chance they make it there in a PPR.

 

[coachjim]

just found out last night that I have the 6th pick in one of my drafts....gonna mock it up today....we get 6 points for all td's....leaning towards LT if he is there......I think Brady is going to have a gig year again with Moss/Welker/Galloway so he is a consideration as well even though I know it's not the best value....but I think you know what you get with him and he is a safe pick if not excited about the RB's....as of now we get .33 per reception

Before I am certain that Brafy is a safe pick I want to see if he is gunshy about his knee in the preseason.

 

[cj*]

What I did from the 6 in"No Mercy".

Powellsville Monkey Spankers

Brady, Tom NEP QB (P) - 8 2.07

Pennington, Chad MIA QB - 6 14.07

Brown, Ronnie MIA RB - 6 3.06

Forte, Matt CHI RB (P) - 5 1.06

Lewis, Jamal CLE RB (P) - 9 8.07

Wells, Chris ARI RB - 4 6.07

Williams, Ricky MIA RB - 6 11.06

Burress, Plaxico FA* WR - - 13.06

Engram, Bobby KCC WR - 8 17.06

Harrison, Marvin FA* WR - - 18.07

Jackson, Vincent SDC WR - 5 5.06

Ochocinco, Chad CIN WR - 8 4.07

Smith, Steve NYG WR - 10 10.07

Ward, Hines PIT WR (P) - 8 7.06

Davis, Vernon SFO TE - 6 15.06

Shockey, Jeremy NOS TE - 5 12.07

Rackers, Neil ARI PK - 4 16.07

Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def - 8 9.06

I like this team alot. Wr and Te are my weak spots. Qb, RB, DEF, are all strengths.

 

[badmother]

i have this spot in a pprmy plan1-LT2- WR(johnsons, wayne, smith)3- WR(boldin, welker)4-RBi like the potential of the fourth round backs a lot more than the potential of the wr's. i also am probably a bit higher than most on welker, i love guys with 100+ receptions.

I have the #5 in one league, and I'm planning something similar.

I'm telling ya though, the RBs you can get in the 5th are on par (as far as FBG's projections go) with the 4th rounders. So, why not grab another WR or QB and wait til the 5th to get your RB?

The value is def there, so much that i'd like to go RB,WR, WR, RB, RB .. Running back depth is always important especially if you have the right guys. Someone still needs to talk me out of taking Rivers in the 3rd or 4th. He's got so many weapons I'd be shocked if he wasn't top 3 and toped 30 passing tds again.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I've mocked this out SEVERAL TIMES. And the total points seems to always ben relatively the same throught the first 6 rounds, no matter what combination I use EXCEPT if I go RB, RB in the first two rounds, it's DROPS by 20 points on the year. Not a huge amount when we're talking about per week scoring, but it is something to consider.

I'm just not sold on SJax, LT or Chris Johnson....and they always seem to be the RBs there in the first round. I like Portis just as much in the 2nd round. But he doesn't ALWAYS make it back to me. I'm thinkng Moss, Fitz in the 1st and then Portis or Gore in the 2nd....but it's risky.

 

[badmother]

I've mocked this out SEVERAL TIMES. And the total points seems to always ben relatively the same throught the first 6 rounds, no matter what combination I use EXCEPT if I go RB, RB in the first two rounds, it's DROPS by 20 points on the year. Not a huge amount when we're talking about per week scoring, but it is something to consider.I'm just not sold on SJax, LT or Chris Johnson....and they always seem to be the RBs there in the first round. I like Portis just as much in the 2nd round. But he doesn't ALWAYS make it back to me. I'm thinkng Moss, Fitz in the 1st and then Portis or Gore in the 2nd....but it's risky.

is it a 10 team or a 12 team.. 10 team you have a chance to land portis/ gore .. 12 team you don't.

 

[Instinctive]

What do you see that isn't to like about Steven Jackson?

 

[sentr]

i have this spot in a pprmy plan1-LT2- WR(johnsons, wayne, smith)3- WR(boldin, welker)4-RBi like the potential of the fourth round backs a lot more than the potential of the wr's. i also am probably a bit higher than most on welker, i love guys with 100+ receptions.

I have the #5 in one league, and I'm planning something similar.

I'm telling ya though, the RBs you can get in the 5th are on par (as far as FBG's projections go) with the 4th rounders. So, why not grab another WR or QB and wait til the 5th to get your RB?

Slots 1-4 I'd probably go RB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB through 6 rounds. Slots 9-12 I'd probably go WR, WR, RB, WR, RB, RB through 6 roundsSlots 5-8 it would depend on which RB's were there in round one, but I am pretty set on grabbing 3 WR's in the first 4 rounds. I've mocked it mulitple times, multiple ways and the supply/demand and value seems to dictate the value of drafting 3 WR's in the first 4 rounds. One constant that I've noticed is other owners seem to be scrambling for WR's in rounds 3 & 4 which keeps pushing solid RB's into the 4, 5, 6 rounds. While they are busy chasing the end of WR#2/WR#3 talent, I've stocked up on two #1's and a very good #2 for my 3WR's. And as you said, I like RB's in the 4th/5th round as much as some being taken in the 3rd/4th round. This trend has strengthened in recent weeks' drafts so I hope drafter's tendencies hold through both of my big $$$ drafts. We'll see????

 

[robb]

I too have the "dreaded" 6th slot out of a 12 owner league.

So...if people are skittish and TURNER is there at 1.06, do you take him over Fitz?

Would Slaton be a pick over Fitz too?? Draft in 3 weeks.

 

[DarkManX]

Just had a draft myself out of the 6th spot, non PPR, 12 team. Decided to go WR, WR and take a QB early and see how I fair. Turned out like this...

1. (6) Larry Fitzgerald WR

2. (19) Calvin Johnson WR

3. (30) Pierre Thomas RB

4. (43) Aaron Rodgers QB

5. (54) Darren McFadden RB

6. (67) Greg Olsen TE

7. (78) Ray Rice RB

8. (91) Torry Holt WR

9. (102) Cedric Benson RB

10. (115) Julius Jones RB

11. (126) Ted Ginn Jr. WR

All in all not that great but not that bad either. Had to take a few of the lower-end RBs to sure up a questionable backfield. Not really impressed with my depth at WR either but hopefully can swing a trade or 2 and upgrade that.

 

[bcr8f]

What do you see that isn't to like about Steven Jackson?

He started 11 and 12 games the last 2 years?

 

[robb]

Just had a draft myself out of the 6th spot, non PPR, 12 team. Decided to go WR, WR and take a QB early and see how I fair. Turned out like this...1. (6) Larry Fitzgerald WR2. (19) Calvin Johnson WR3. (30) Pierre Thomas RB4. (43) Aaron Rodgers QB5. (54) Darren McFadden RB6. (67) Greg Olsen TE7. (78) Ray Rice RB8. (91) Torry Holt WR9. (102) Cedric Benson RB10. (115) Julius Jones RB11. (126) Ted Ginn Jr. WRAll in all not that great but not that bad either. Had to take a few of the lower-end RBs to sure up a questionable backfield. Not really impressed with my depth at WR either but hopefully can swing a trade or 2 and upgrade that.

See...I'd take that team. The only changes I would do is not take a QB at 4th (get a 3rd WR or 2nd RB!) and even if I did take a QB that early(per your plan), then I would have to sacrifice at the TE position and draft that position later. I never draft a QB and a TE early! I like your value in the 7th, 9th & 10th rounds!JMO! Great draft tho.

 

[Penguins]

I think the #6 spot is a difficult one for sure....I think most of the RBs on the board still have some downside to the 6 spot....I am drafting the 6 spot - but would think heavily about one of these:

Strategy 1:

Round 1 WR1 - your pick of Fitz or Moss

Round 2 Best available RB - if 14 RBs have been taken - take another WR or top QB

Round 3 If 1WR/1RB - look at who is available at QB - if Rodgers is there take him otherwise best available

Strategy 2:

Round 1 QB - your pick of any of them - have heard its a bit risky - but I think you can come up with a decent RB round 2

Round 2 same as above strategy - if 14 RBs have been taken take a WR

Round 3 If 1WR/1QB - take best available RB, if 1QB/1RB - take best available WR/RB

In rounds 4 - 6 I think there are plenty of servicable RBs - albeit not great ones - but some with upside.....

There are only 2 RBs I think I'd be willing to look at in the 6 spot this year - LT and Gore....(of course I also got burned with Shaun Alexander so LT is a bit of a risk - but hedge it by taking sproles in round 6 or 7)....this is my personal strategy and I'm sure there are plenty of alternate opinions about the above 2 strategies that say I'm an idiot - but I think those two strategies take a swing for the fences and put more emphasis on careful choices in rounds 4-6 on RB....

 

[theToes]

i have the 6th pick also in league where the scoring favors the QB's heavily.

All td's a 6 points and the yardage is the same for passing, rushing and receiving(1 pt /25 yds). I'm pretty sure the 5 in front of me go rb. With the 6 point td's is one of the stud qb's the play here?

Maybe something like

round 1 Brady / Brees

round 2 Calvin / Portis/ Barber

round 3 Jacobs / Brown / Boldin

I've done a few mocks and the points at the end seem to be fairly close no matter which way I start

 

[Deuce'sWild]

i have the 6th pick also in league where the scoring favors the QB's heavily.All td's a 6 points and the yardage is the same for passing, rushing and receiving(1 pt /25 yds). I'm pretty sure the 5 in front of me go rb. With the 6 point td's is one of the stud qb's the play here?Maybe something likeround 1 Brady / Breesround 2 Calvin / Portis/ Barberround 3 Jacobs / Brown / BoldinI've done a few mocks and the points at the end seem to be fairly close no matter which way I start

I am the same way. I think you mock it out several ways and find some consistency (ie who is there most of the time) and then decide which team are you MOST comfortable with, and which team do you feel most vulnerable? It's purely a gut feeling and you just how to go with it.

 

[theToes]

Here is another thought but it is a little more rsisky. I live in the Phia. area and have been seeing a lot of the reports on the rehab progress of Westbrook. By all accounts he is way ahead of schedule and was running some pass routes the other day.

My lwague is 6pt TD's and PPR. Westbrook when healthy is PPR gold. Even in what most would consider a down year for him last season, Westbrook was the 5th ranked running back with more points than Peterson, Slaton, c johnson and LT.

My draft is very late, the day before the season starts, so I should have a lot of chances to see how he progressing.

Is Westbrook a viable choice at 6?

 

[Mr. Fusion]

Here is another thought but it is a little more rsisky. I live in the Phia. area and have been seeing a lot of the reports on the rehab progress of Westbrook. By all accounts he is way ahead of schedule and was running some pass routes the other day.My lwague is 6pt TD's and PPR. Westbrook when healthy is PPR gold. Even in what most would consider a down year for him last season, Westbrook was the 5th ranked running back with more points than Peterson, Slaton, c johnson and LT.My draft is very late, the day before the season starts, so I should have a lot of chances to see how he progressing.Is Westbrook a viable choice at 6?

From what I have seen, Westbrook would very likely be available to you in the 2nd round.

 

[theToes]

Here is another thought but it is a little more rsisky. I live in the Phia. area and have been seeing a lot of the reports on the rehab progress of Westbrook. By all accounts he is way ahead of schedule and was running some pass routes the other day.My lwague is 6pt TD's and PPR. Westbrook when healthy is PPR gold. Even in what most would consider a down year for him last season, Westbrook was the 5th ranked running back with more points than Peterson, Slaton, c johnson and LT.My draft is very late, the day before the season starts, so I should have a lot of chances to see how he progressing.Is Westbrook a viable choice at 6?

From what I have seen, Westbrook would very likely be available to you in the 2nd round.

Probably not in my league. We have a lot of Phila homers and Eagles tend to get drafted early and often. Even before the reports of him improving he would most likely have been a 1st round pick where he would fall in other drafts.I didn't want to make this a should I draft Westbrook post. I was more looking at players like him that were down last year and could possibly return to form this year. I guess you can throw LT in this mix as well.Is therer a difference in taking someone like C. Johnson / Slaton or taking a flyer on Westbrook / LT.

 

[Macadooski]

A question (very possibly a dumb one) ... I'm in a 12 team, league with standard lineup and standard scoring, no PPR. The last couple years, QBs have represented the majority of top 10 and top 20 scoring e.g. last year the scoring leaders went Brees, Rodgers, RB, Rivers, RB, Cutler, Warner, Manning, Cassel, RB. The scoring differential between Brees and Cassel was like 75 pts (~6 pts a week).

Should I or shouldn't I take a QB with my first round pick (6)?

 

[ATC1]

A question (very possibly a dumb one) ... I'm in a 12 team, league with standard lineup and standard scoring, no PPR. The last couple years, QBs have represented the majority of top 10 and top 20 scoring e.g. last year the scoring leaders went Brees, Rodgers, RB, Rivers, RB, Cutler, Warner, Manning, Cassel, RB. The scoring differential between Brees and Cassel was like 75 pts (~6 pts a week).Should I or shouldn't I take a with my first round pick (6)?

Yes, it's 75 points, but the difference between the #1 and #7 RB I would say is around 75 points as well, right? The #7 Qb off the board will be around the 7th round. Whereas the #7 RB will be in the late first round.

 

[Macadooski]

That's correct, the diff between the 1 RB and 7 RB is around 70 pts. Ok so since we only start 1 QB but 2-3 RBs, the demand for RBs is higher, hence grab RBs early. The people in my draft seem to make picks out of the context of what is recommended by draft dominator. I have had good teams over the past couple years but was wondering if I should rethink my strategy/reliance on the DD. Thanks for the help.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Westbrook is the definition of high risk, reward this year. You can't win your league in the 1st rd but you can lose it. Let someone else take the chance on him in the 1st rd. Yeah, he's money but microfx surgery is VERY cloudy and the results very a lot. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Penguins]

Here's my latest thoughts (I don't draft until Aug 29th):

hmmmm - what to do:

RBs:

LT - is he really done - some expecting big bounceback year - I personally bought into that in Shaun Alexander's bounceback season - which was a bust

SJAX - if he was on a better team - I think I'd have a better opinion - having had him 2 of 3 past seasons - he was great to have when healthy - but an absolute headache when he's not

DeAngelo - have loved him his entire career - does he regress? if so - how much - I don't think anyone could say 1300 yds and 10 total TDs is a bust - but at number 6 is that worth it vs. picking an elite at another position....I believe there are some 3-5 round RBs that will probably hit around 1100 yds and 8-10 tds....so hmmm

WRs:

Fitzgerald - absolutely awesome - but does ARI regress? and the potential curses of super bowl, Madden, and "every other year fitz"

Moss - I think a good floor is what we saw last year 1000 yds and 11tds - which isn't too shabby but are these two picks worth a 6 pick?

QBs:

Brady - hmmm - knee?

Brees - anyone else feel like NO may regress?

I am absolutely stumped - the minute I feel confident about DeAngelo, Moss, or Brees - I talk myself out of each one.....

 

[bocksheesh]

Here's my latest thoughts (I don't draft until Aug 29th):hmmmm - what to do:RBs:LT - is he really done - some expecting big bounceback year - I personally bought into that in Shaun Alexander's bounceback season - which was a bustSJAX - if he was on a better team - I think I'd have a better opinion - having had him 2 of 3 past seasons - he was great to have when healthy - but an absolute headache when he's notDeAngelo - have loved him his entire career - does he regress? if so - how much - I don't think anyone could say 1300 yds and 10 total TDs is a bust - but at number 6 is that worth it vs. picking an elite at another position....I believe there are some 3-5 round RBs that will probably hit around 1100 yds and 8-10 tds....so hmmm

I don't think LT ends up being a Top 3 RB this year, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't a Top 10 RB. And I think if you can get him at #6, you should consider yourself fortunate and not hesitate.A lot has been made about LT hitting 30, and pulling a Sean Alexander, but it's important not to get too caught up in those sorts of trends and look at the specific situations involved. And I HATE the Shaun Alexander comparisons. I live up in Seattle and know Alexander well. Shaun Alexander completely fell apart because (a) Steve Hutchinson left as a free agent and was and still probably is the most dominant run blocking lineman in the game and (b) Alexander was never that good to start with.Tomlinson is on a whole different level of talent than Alexander. And he's a much more similar player to Emmitt Smith - who had two very good years when he was 30 and 31.So don't be afraid of LT at #6.

 

[Keith1]

I am absolutely stumped - the minute I feel confident about DeAngelo, Moss, or Brees - I talk myself out of each one.....

I feel the same exact way (I have the # 5 pick). Only add Slaton and SJax to the discussion.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I am really starting to think R. Moss is the safest pick here. His floor is probably 1100 and 11 tds. His ceiling is probably 1400 and 20 tds.

 

[Penguins]

Deuce's Wild - I am coming around to that philosophy - the more I think about it - solidifying a top WR - that according to scoring will be around (although not quite) a RB score.....The RBs that I see available there don't have a much higher ceiling than where their ranked....but I think its safe to say that Randy Moss' projected 1100 yds and 14 tds - are a pretty safe bet.....

I'm leaning more and more to Randy Moss here.....

Note: I love the idea of Fitzgerald, had him last year and he is an absolute stud - but if something happens to Warner is Leinart going to be able to get him the ball enough (add in the Madden curse, superbowl curse).....I also like the idea of getting LT - never had him before and would love to call him mine - but probably not this high - as he could regress a little more....but could bounce back in a big way as he is in a league of his own....

I think playing it safe - Moss (which I'll probably do)

I think swing for the fence - LT or DeAngelo

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Deuce's Wild - I am coming around to that philosophy - the more I think about it - solidifying a top WR - that according to scoring will be around (although not quite) a RB score.....The RBs that I see available there don't have a much higher ceiling than where their ranked....but I think its safe to say that Randy Moss' projected 1100 yds and 14 tds - are a pretty safe bet.....

I'm leaning more and more to Randy Moss here.....

Note: I love the idea of Fitzgerald, had him last year and he is an absolute stud - but if something happens to Warner is Leinart going to be able to get him the ball enough (add in the Madden curse, superbowl curse).....I also like the idea of getting LT - never had him before and would love to call him mine - but probably not this high - as he could regress a little more....but could bounce back in a big way as he is in a league of his own....

I think playing it safe - Moss (which I'll probably do)

I think swing for the fence - LT or DeAngelo

I hear ya, and that is my fear with Brady/Moss. The backup is Walther now...and he played with Moss in Oakland, so there may be some chemistry there....but I don't think Randy was even trying at that point.Any WR is more of a risk than a RB I think because not only can they get hurt but if their QB goes down it kills them too.

 

[Instinctive]

What do you see that isn't to like about Steven Jackson?

He started 11 and 12 games the last 2 years?

So you don't like Boldin either?

 

[puckalicious]

Time for a bump. I just found out I'm picking at 6 in a standard league but with 6pt passing TDs and starting 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1K/1Def.

Using latest consensus ADPs, I'm looking at:

1.06 - LT, Dwill, Chris Johnson; would take Jackson if he's on the board though.

2.07 - Best avail of Calvin/Andre/Wayne; Brees/Brady; Portis/Ronnie.

3.06 - Liking KSmith/Grant here, so likely will skip RB in round 2.

4.07 - Braylon/Ochocinco; or Rodgers/Rivers or Witten if they fall.

5.06 - DD tells me I'd be stupid to pass up Gonzo here, but I'm really liking LJ or DeSean especially if I took a QB/TE early.

6.07 - This is where things get ugly. I don't like the value of any RB/WR here which makes me not want to take a QB/TE early. Olsen?

7.06 - Schaub/Palmer - probably only 1 of them drops to here, they are getting too much hype.

After this I am really losing interest in my possible team. Maybe taking Rodgers/Rivers in round 3 is the way to go but I really want a RB here.

This is making me pull my hair out.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

1.06 - LT, Dwill, Chris Johnson; would take Jackson if he's on the board though.2.07 - Best avail of Calvin/Andre/Wayne; Brees/Brady; Portis/Ronnie.3.06 - Liking KSmith/Grant here, so likely will skip RB in round 2.4.07 - Braylon/Ochocinco; or Rodgers/Rivers or Witten if they fall.5.06 - DD tells me I'd be stupid to pass up Gonzo here, but I'm really liking LJ or DeSean especially if I took a QB/TE early.6.07 - This is where things get ugly. I don't like the value of any RB/WR here which makes me not want to take a QB/TE early. Olsen?7.06 - Schaub/Palmer - probably only 1 of them drops to here, they are getting too much hype.

I have the #6 pick in my 12 team draft as well and I am almost dead on in agreement with your analysis. In the first round, I am really hoping Stephen Jackson falls to #6. Otherwise I really have no clue who to take. LT's age is really scaring me. Which RB are you favoring at that spot? As for round 2, I am hoping Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson falls to me. But I haven't seen their ADP to know whether they do. I do think mid second round is too high for Reggie Wayne. Round 3 I am in agreement that Smith or Grant would be great picks. PIerre Thomas would be solid there as well. As for round 4, are there any decent running backs who might fall to that spot? Otherwise Edwards and Ochocinco would be my targets. I also intend to wait on quarterback like Palmer or SChaub in the mid rounds.