Picking a Second Half RB (1 Viewer)

[Ketamine Dreams]

I think I'd also take a shot at Morency if cheap enough.

I agree. Someone may emerge out of that mess and he has a good a chance as any.

 

[thehornet]

Kevin Jones

The word is out on KJ, fantasy owners drafted in anticipation of his return. He is not going to be undervalued right now.

In non-ppr I don't think he has much value. PPR a bit.

not really the point. he was drafted late in most drafts and ha can still be had fairly cheap.

But I think he has limited upside. That is the point.

yup, it's your opinion. But he was pretty much a super stud last year when he was healthy. Rushing yards, receiving yards, catches, tds...he does it all.

yeah a whole 689 yards rushing last year, oh and 664 the year before. And a whopping 6 rushing TDs too. He made a living off a bunch of catches last year in PPR.

His versatility is what makes him such a threat, much in the way Marshall Faulk was used. Even though he doesn't put up as many rush yds, he balances it out with more reception than most of the league, PPR or not.

You have got to bbe joking righht???In 12 games, 1 in which he didnt finish due to getting hurt:

1209 total yards

8 Touchdowns

61 receptions

PLEASE STOP THE INSANITY!!

Edit: Oh ya, he just turned 25.

 

[Everclear333]

I think I'd also take a shot at Morency if cheap enough.

What are his chances of holding the starting job? And even so, is he going to produce?

 

[Banger]

I think I'd also take a shot at Morency if cheap enough.

What are his chances of holding the starting job? And even so, is he going to produce?

A. Green did ok in that offense. He looked as good as Green at times last year. He's got no competition at all, they are all a bunch of stiffs.

 

[Gopher State]

Kevin Jones

The word is out on KJ, fantasy owners drafted in anticipation of his return. He is not going to be undervalued right now.

In non-ppr I don't think he has much value. PPR a bit.

not really the point. he was drafted late in most drafts and ha can still be had fairly cheap.

But I think he has limited upside. That is the point.

yup, it's your opinion. But he was pretty much a super stud last year when he was healthy. Rushing yards, receiving yards, catches, tds...he does it all.

yeah a whole 689 yards rushing last year, oh and 664 the year before. And a whopping 6 rushing TDs too. He made a living off a bunch of catches last year in PPR.

His versatility is what makes him such a threat, much in the way Marshall Faulk was used. Even though he doesn't put up as many rush yds, he balances it out with more reception than most of the league, PPR or not.

You have got to bbe joking righht???In 12 games, 1 in which he didnt finish due to getting hurt:

1209 total yards

8 Touchdowns

61 receptions

PLEASE STOP THE INSANITY!!

The 1209 yards was in 2006, we are now playing 2007 the lions are running 4 WR sets with a empty back field around 40+ percent, Jones may catch some passes but he will never perform as he did in 2006, look to the present not to past.

 

[Everclear333]

I think I'd also take a shot at Morency if cheap enough.

What are his chances of holding the starting job? And even so, is he going to produce?

A. Green did ok in that offense. He looked as good as Green at times last year. He's got no competition at all, they are all a bunch of stiffs.

You seem pretty certain that he isn't one of those 'stiffs'

 

[Banger]

I think I'd deal L. Jordan for L. White and some thing else back. Jordans value will never be higher all year.

 

[gianmarco]

The problem with trading Jordan is this:

He was most likely drafted pretty late and was a RB3/4 for most teams that drafted him. He's now moved into the starting lineup. Unfortunately, he just doesn't command a lot of trade value right now. Suggesting to get someone like LenDale White for him is just horrible value for what he's done so far. To expect to get a reasonably solid #2 RB or better just isn't going to happen.

So, even if you think he won't continue to produce, most likely you'll only be swapping him out for another RB3 or marginal RB2 (like White). Since that's the value you originally drafted Jordan as, you're really not getting anything for him. And, of course, if you're wrong, and he DOES continue to produce like he is (which is quite possible), then your trade is really, really bad. I just can't see trading him unless you're seriously upgrading another position and have some legit starters at RB. Given the injuries we've seen already coupled with some severe underproduction from 1st and 2nd round picks, Jordan just shouldn't be traded unless the value is really there.

 

[thehornet]

Regarding the KJ debate above:

The 1209 yards was in 2006, we are now playing 2007 the lions are running 4 WR sets with a empty back field around 40+ percent, Jones may catch some passes but he will never perform as he did in 2006, look to the present not to past.

- Gopher State

Jeez, tough crowd. Maybe I am confused, but are we not talking aout low valued RB's for the 2nd half of the year? What else am I supposed to base my opinion on? I could say someone like Jerious Norwood like others or Dominic Rhodes but they are less than half the back that KJ is.

Jones will never perform the way he did in 2006 again? Wow, that is a bold statement. Funny someone earleier in the post was scoffing at what he did last year. Now, you are saying he'll never do it again. I am truly perplexed.

Ya, KJ sucks dont pick him up as a 2nd half sleeper. I have been convinced with all these intelligent one liners.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Regarding KJ

Let it go.... The guy had one sort of decent year and now you worship him. Whatever. People act like he ran for 1,600 yards or something. He averaged 3.8 and 3.6 ypc the last two years and hasn't rushed for over 700 yards in a season in 3 years. He inflated his numbers with a bunch of dump-off passes last year. Even if he gets involved a lot this year he still has competition in the backfield. Oh, and he's injury-prone and still recovering from a Lis-Franc fracture....

 

[Sabertooth]

LenDale and Morency look like good candidates.

 

[Everclear333]

Gopher State

Jeez, tough crowd. Maybe I am confused, but are we not talking aout low valued RB's for the 2nd half of the year? What else am I supposed to base my opinion on? I could say someone like Jerious Norwood like others or Dominic Rhodes but they are less than half the back that KJ is.

Jones will never perform the way he did in 2006 again? Wow, that is a bold statement. Funny someone earleier in the post was scoffing at what he did last year. Now, you are saying he'll never do it again. I am truly perplexed.

Ya, KJ sucks dont pick him up as a 2nd half sleeper. I have been convinced with all these intelligent one liners.

Regarding KJ

Let it go.... The guy had one sort of decent year and now you worship him. Whatever. People act like he ran for 1,600 yards or something. He averaged 3.8 and 3.6 ypc the last two years and hasn't rushed for over 700 yards in a season in 3 years. He inflated his numbers with a bunch of dump-off passes last year. Even if he gets involved a lot this year he still has competition in the backfield. Oh, and he's injury-prone and still recovering from a Lis-Franc fracture....

You do not need to defend an idea once you place it on the table. Let it speak for itself. Allow the other person to leave with bad logic, if that's what they want. Sometimes, a person you cannot change a person's mind.

 

[gianmarco]

Regarding KJ

Let it go.... The guy had one sort of decent year and now you worship him. Whatever. People act like he ran for 1,600 yards or something. He averaged 3.8 and 3.6 ypc the last two years and hasn't rushed for over 700 yards in a season in 3 years. He inflated his numbers with a bunch of dump-off passes last year. Even if he gets involved a lot this year he still has competition in the backfield. Oh, and he's injury-prone and still recovering from a Lis-Franc fracture....

You don't have to rush for 1600 yds to be worthwhile and you don't need a fantastic ypc to be valuable in fantasy football. Kevin Jones had 1200 total yds and 8 TDs in 11 games last year (1 game he left after the first few minutes). Now, of course extrapolating out for a full season isn't ideal, but after 11 games, you have significant data to at least be close. Over 16 games, that projects to about 1750 total yds and 11-12 TDs. Who cares if his ypc is only 3.8. Last year, Rudi Johnson had a 3.8 ypc average and only finished with 1450 total yds and 12 TDs. In 5 less games, KJ was only 250 yds and 4 TDs off those total #'s. This isn't even counting receptions and his value in a PPR league.

Now, who do you think would be easier to acquire at this point (if Rudi were healthy), Rudi or KJ? Not saying that KJ will repeat those #'s, but given the information we have and the current price of those 2 players, I'll take KJ any day of the week.

And, he's not recovering from a Lisfranc fracture. It's healed and he's not at any increased risk of a repeat fracture. This isn't a thread to determine whether or not KJ is great or is good enough to be a top 10 RB, but whether or not he's a 2nd half RB to target. Given what he did over 11 games last year, the answer to that is an absolute yes if you can get him at a good price.

 

[coachjim]

After drafting RB, WR, WR, WR, I went Dominic Rhodes late in the draft just for this reason.Seasoned Vet, Good Off. line much improved from last year (luckely). My only concern is what knd of shape is he insince he's not with the team? Lamont is doing Great but can he substain the rigor of a every day back? Rhodes, I figure will be READY by week 7....One of them Gut Feelings......we'll see.Go Dominic!...............hopefully.

I agree. I did the same thing.

 

[Steeler07]

Kevin Jones

The word is out on KJ, fantasy owners drafted in anticipation of his return. He is not going to be undervalued right now.

In non-ppr I don't think he has much value. PPR a bit.

not really the point. he was drafted late in most drafts and ha can still be had fairly cheap.

But I think he has limited upside. That is the point.

Then your point is wrong. His upside is big.

 

[abe froman]

Regarding KJLet it go.... The guy had one sort of decent year and now you worship him. Whatever. People act like he ran for 1,600 yards or something. He averaged 3.8 and 3.6 ypc the last two years and hasn't rushed for over 700 yards in a season in 3 years. He inflated his numbers with a bunch of dump-off passes last year. Even if he gets involved a lot this year he still has competition in the backfield. Oh, and he's injury-prone and still recovering from a Lis-Franc fracture....

sounding like someone who traded away K.Jones and now needs to justify his decision..??..facts are every fantasy league is different. In our PPR league where yardage means nothing and TD yardage bonus applies, KJones is potentially a top 6-7back. His receptions are themain reason. This Det team is a totally different offense now so defenses are having to respect the pass. K.Jones will face less defenders and that alone will allow him raise his yardage #'s from seasons past as well as counter the 2-4 less rush attempts he may have saying DET keeps throwing 40+ times a game. KJ catching 6 passes a game is earning me the same as 1 TD each game. plus throw in the actual TD's..enough already with this thread..btw saying he inflated his numbers by having a bunch of dump off passes is just dumb. Thats what he's suppsed to do! Thats what makes him valuable..Portis ran for 1500 yds in 05 for 11 TD's with 30 receptions and 200 yds..(just noting a great year) Id take a healthy KJ with 8-9 TDs for 900+ yds, 80+ catches for 3+ TD's and 700+ yads rec all day. (Thats is AT WORST where KJ would of ended up if he would of played all 16 games last year. And there is no competion in that backfield so stop kidding yourself. Tatum is a bum PERIOD. iF Detroit had faith in Bell that would not be trying to get KJ in there before the week 6 bye. Good job on providing the ypc info though..here's a list premature list of RB's also avging around 3.5 ypc through first 3 games..SJAX 3.4RUDI 3.1BENSON 3.2 GORE 3.4LJ 2.8LT2 2.3BUSH 2.8i have a few of these guys wasting roster space on a couple different teams right now..thanks for the insight, I will be cutting them loose by gametime :(

 

[dirk diggler]

ok, really really deep ones here.

Brian Calhoun

Tony Hunt

lorenzo booker

ryan grant

piere thomas

Certainly all long shots, but if the cards fell right any of them could find themselves in a favorable situation.

 

[pizzatyme]

I wonder if haivng a sucky Tatum Bell in the backfield has influenced the decision to go 4 WR sets more often this year?

I healthy KJ is way better an option than Tater.

I would think KJ is a good 2nd half play.

Kitna is getting killed due to running these 4WRs sets too. KJ makes teams stay honest to the RB position.

 

[Everclear333]

After drafting RB, WR, WR, WR, I went Dominic Rhodes late in the draft just for this reason.Seasoned Vet, Good Off. line much improved from last year (luckely). My only concern is what knd of shape is he insince he's not with the team? Lamont is doing Great but can he substain the rigor of a every day back? Rhodes, I figure will be READY by week 7....One of them Gut Feelings......we'll see.Go Dominic!...............hopefully.

I agree. I did the same thing.

LJordan goes down with an injury in the 1st Series.. Looks like Dominic could pan out for the better.