Picking Andre Johnson at #2 (1 Viewer)

[smoker]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR's

Feel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.

I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.

Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TE

Thoughts

 

[aardball44]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR'sFeel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TEThoughts

Go for it.Forget about QB and TE until you've added WR2 and WR3.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR'sFeel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TEThoughts

Go for it.Forget about QB and TE until you've added WR2 and WR3.

I would pick the best player available.

 

[jon_mx]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR'sFeel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TEThoughts

Adrian Peterson >>>> Benson or Grant or Mathews or WellsYou have to weight what the drop off is for the two WR's you could pick up at 23 and 26 in comparison. I have seen someone like Moss drop that low, but in a 3 WR league that won't happen. Probably looking at Marshall or Colston

 

[rifkin]

I think it's a bad move. I'd think about Rice if not Peterson. They'll still be some nice WRs left in the 2nd and 3rd and good picks later for your WR3/4/5 (knox, gaffney, jones, driver, etc)

 

[Carver]

I think it's a horrid move. You cant pass on Rice/MJD/ADP there. AJ is a monster, but he isnt always the picture of perfect health. Too big a gamble for my blood.

 

[Mister CIA]

Anecdotal, but in last week's pre-season game against Dallas, Houston (and Andre Johnson) looked well-positioned to take advantage of new league rules that move the Umpire into the backfield.

 

[smapdi]

Why not take Ray Rice?

He has the ability to catch 70+ passes this season.

I'd say go for AJ if you were in the 5 spot all day but at pick 2, Ray Rice or Peterson are too good to pass up.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

This newfound sexiness in taking WRs early in dynasty leagues is primarily because of the idea that their careers will be much longer than a running back's. With AJ being 29, I'm not sure that's really the case with him, and his career from here on out should be about the same length as a guy like Rice or CJ3.

 

[VaTerp]

I had the first pick last nite and took CJ2K but gave serious consideration to Peterson.

Im willing to bet he catches 55-60 balls this year and is in the neighborhood of 2000 YFS. IMO the 2nd pick is the EASIEST slot to draft from in the 1st round. You take whoever is left from Johnson and Peterson and then plan the rest of your draft. Im a huge Andre Johnson guy as well but you will regret passing on Peterson at #2.

 

[Kuz]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR'sFeel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TEThoughts

There's no way I would do this. & I doubt you'll be able to choose from that lot of RB's. I would guess Deangelo & Matthews will be gone. Grant may be gone too. & I seriously doubt that Romo & Schaub will last until the 5th. You really need to rethink your draft if you plan on the above playing out.

 

[Kuz]

Anecdotal, but in last week's pre-season game against Dallas, Houston (and Andre Johnson) looked well-positioned to take advantage of new league rules that move the Umpire into the backfield.

care to explain this. How does this help Andre? It seems to me the new rule just slows down the offense. Can't snap the ball as quick at they want etc. I'm curious to know how that new rule would help a WR?

 

[Carver]

Anecdotal, but in last week's pre-season game against Dallas, Houston (and Andre Johnson) looked well-positioned to take advantage of new league rules that move the Umpire into the backfield.

care to explain this. How does this help Andre? It seems to me the new rule just slows down the offense. Can't snap the ball as quick at they want etc. I'm curious to know how that new rule would help a WR?

I dont get it either. I think it's gonna hurt certain players (Welker being one) who actually use the Refs to their benefit in the middle of the field.

 

[Mister CIA]

Anecdotal, but in last week's pre-season game against Dallas, Houston (and Andre Johnson) looked well-positioned to take advantage of new league rules that move the Umpire into the backfield.

care to explain this. How does this help Andre? It seems to me the new rule just slows down the offense. Can't snap the ball as quick at they want etc. I'm curious to know how that new rule would help a WR?

When the umpire was positioned behind linebackers, it tended to clog WR paths across the middle. Right?

 

[Go deep]

Does every position get the same amount of poinys for receptions?

I did a 12 team PPR leagues last month and took AJ with the 1.3. RB's only get .5 per reception and WR's/TE's get 1, so that made my choice easy. If your league scoress the same no matter position, then its not such an easy decision.

I seem to like alot of the RB's that can be had in the middle rounds this year, and dont like the WR's after the top 12-15, so i might lean towards AJ with the 1.2. The good news is you really cant go wrong with any player you take here. Although for some reason i do not think AD is playing 16 games this year. I dont normally try to predict injuries, but my gut wont leave me alone on this one.

 

[HenryWinklerRulez]

uhm Adrian Peterson is clearly the pick if hes there, this is a foolish move. You can get Jennings with ur 2nd pick who could have a better season than Andre. Now all of a sudden you have the #1 WR and the #1 RB. There is no possible chance in the world any of those RB you named could be the #1 RB. I just laid out a scenario in which you have both the #1's

 

[Go deep]

uhm Adrian Peterson is clearly the pick if hes there, this is a foolish move. You can get Jennings with ur 2nd pick who could have a better season than Andre. Now all of a sudden you have the #1 WR and the #1 RB. There is no possible chance in the world any of those RB you named could be the #1 RB. I just laid out a scenario in which you have both the #1's

I think it is just as likely Charles has a better season than Peterson than Jennings has of bettering Johnson. This is a PPR league, no way Jennings outcores AJ, barring injury of course.

 

[HenryWinklerRulez]

uhm Adrian Peterson is clearly the pick if hes there, this is a foolish move. You can get Jennings with ur 2nd pick who could have a better season than Andre. Now all of a sudden you have the #1 WR and the #1 RB. There is no possible chance in the world any of those RB you named could be the #1 RB. I just laid out a scenario in which you have both the #1's

I think it is just as likely Charles has a better season than Peterson than Jennings has of bettering Johnson. This is a PPR league, no way Jennings outcores AJ, barring injury of course.

Well I beg to differ, Charles isn't even the starting RB in KC right now and KC sucks. Ya Ya Thomas Jones sucks blah blah Charles gonna take over whatever, I know I heard it I am a Charles owner. But the fact of the matter is as of right now today Charles is getting vultured on TD's by Thomas Jones and like I said KC sucks so not gonna be that many TD opportunities in the first place. The likelyhood of Charles outscoring AP is very slim. Jennings is the #1 WR on the best offense in the NFL in which they upgraded the Oline to give the QB a bit more time to hit him deeeeeeeeep for mega huge plays. Andre didnt score many touchdowns last year, he could easily be outscored by any number of WR's which can be had in the 2nd round.

 

[VaTerp]

uhm Adrian Peterson is clearly the pick if hes there, this is a foolish move. You can get Jennings with ur 2nd pick who could have a better season than Andre. Now all of a sudden you have the #1 WR and the #1 RB. There is no possible chance in the world any of those RB you named could be the #1 RB. I just laid out a scenario in which you have both the #1's

I think it is just as likely Charles has a better season than Peterson than Jennings has of bettering Johnson. This is a PPR league, no way Jennings outcores AJ, barring injury of course.

Well I beg to differ, Charles isn't even the starting RB in KC right now and KC sucks. Ya Ya Thomas Jones sucks blah blah Charles gonna take over whatever, I know I heard it I am a Charles owner. But the fact of the matter is as of right now today Charles is getting vultured on TD's by Thomas Jones and like I said KC sucks so not gonna be that many TD opportunities in the first place. The likelyhood of Charles outscoring AP is very slim. Jennings is the #1 WR on the best offense in the NFL in which they upgraded the Oline to give the QB a bit more time to hit him deeeeeeeeep for mega huge plays. Andre didnt score many touchdowns last year, he could easily be outscored by any number of WR's which can be had in the 2nd round.

Another Charles owner here who thinks its INSANE to suggest its just as likely for him to outscore Peterson.Let's not forget that in PPR the RBs get points for receptions too. Peterson caught 43 balls last year and had a better per catch average than CJ2K. Plus Chester Taylor and his 44 receptions from last year are no longer on the roster. Gerhart, like most rookies, is not ready to play on 3rd downs right now. Peterson, who has NEVER finished below the 5th overall RB, is in for a monster year. Pass on him at #2 at your own peril.

 

[OU#1]

Pass on Peterson at your own demise. He's been the most steady FF player since he joined the NFL. Go WR/WR at the 2/3 turn and try to grab Best in the 4th. Then look at QB and TE in the 5th and 6th.

Your team could look like:

AD

Megatron

Colston/Jennings

Best

Gates/Finley

Rivers

Not bad if you ask me...

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I think you should do whatever you think is best, of course. It's your team. But please keep in mind that a WR has two injury factors to consider. Johnson is in trouble if he gets hurt...or if Schaub gets hurt. Peterson really just has to worry about himself, because he was awfully good even with Jackson behind center a couple years ago.

Personally, I think Peterson is the best pick at 1.01. But even if you disagree, I'd take either him or Chris Johnson at 1.02. Or, at the very least, try to trade down.

 

[mdlane]

I think there is a big enough drop off between AP/CJ2k and other RBs where you could make a case for taking Andre Johnson 3rd overall in a PPR.

Unlike others, I don't see Calvin Johnson or Moss falling to you at 2.10, and I don't think a Jennings-type WR has a considerable chance to finish as the #1 WR this season. Basically, I think the separation between AJ and other WRs is only slightly less than AP/CJ and other RBs. So yeah, I think you could make a case for AJ at #3.

 

[Thanatos]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR's

Feel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.

I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.

Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TE

Thoughts

I'm pretty sure that if the guy picking at the #2 spot in my money league had taken AJ, the guy in the #3 spot would have given him a fat kiss and offered to take him out for drinks and dancing after the draft.Is this your plan? Drinks and dancing?

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm pretty sure Im doing it. Our league you have to play 3 WR'sFeel confident grabbing 2 rb's with the 23, and 26 pick.I think I can get 2 players in the Benson/Grant/Mathews/Wells/Deangelo/Piere Thomas type.Then hopefully either Schaub or Romo with the next turn along with a TEThoughts

I'm in a ten team league, non-PPR (for RBs, that is), drafting 3rd...I'm also going AJ with that early pick..WR's 1pt per rec, 1 pt per 20 yards receiving. and tds are mostly 4-6pts.the reasoning behind it is a. ten team league, talent will be there when the second round pick comes back to me..b. AJ has less uncertaintly than any other player I'd select at that position, such as Rice ( McGahee stealing GL carries, Boldin stealing receptions), MJD ( injured - just not a big fan of his anyways), Gore ( sure to miss 2-3 games/yr, number of carries has steadily declined in each of the past few seasons.great talent otherwise), too early for Turner or a QB..AJ produces at a high level, seemingly every year.he's just about the safest pick you could make that early in the first round..too much uncertainty otherwise..in a few mocks I've done at FFcalculator.com, I've been able to select RB's like Mathews, D. Williams, Benson in the second, Ryan Grant in the third..so you can still get quality RB's in rounds 2-3..

 

[Go deep]

uhm Adrian Peterson is clearly the pick if hes there, this is a foolish move. You can get Jennings with ur 2nd pick who could have a better season than Andre. Now all of a sudden you have the #1 WR and the #1 RB. There is no possible chance in the world any of those RB you named could be the #1 RB. I just laid out a scenario in which you have both the #1's

I think it is just as likely Charles has a better season than Peterson than Jennings has of bettering Johnson. This is a PPR league, no way Jennings outcores AJ, barring injury of course.

Well I beg to differ, Charles isn't even the starting RB in KC right now and KC sucks. Ya Ya Thomas Jones sucks blah blah Charles gonna take over whatever, I know I heard it I am a Charles owner. But the fact of the matter is as of right now today Charles is getting vultured on TD's by Thomas Jones and like I said KC sucks so not gonna be that many TD opportunities in the first place. The likelyhood of Charles outscoring AP is very slim. Jennings is the #1 WR on the best offense in the NFL in which they upgraded the Oline to give the QB a bit more time to hit him deeeeeeeeep for mega huge plays. Andre didnt score many touchdowns last year, he could easily be outscored by any number of WR's which can be had in the 2nd round.

Nobody really has any idea of how the Chiefs are going to use their RB's or if they are going to suck or not. What we do know is that Charles 2nd half numbers prorated would have him finishing as a top 3 RB. Also, dont you think if te Chuefs did suck they would want their best player on the field as much as possible? Its not like they will be protecting many leads. In a PPR, that could lead to alot of Charles points.As far as injuries, AD is roughly 3 times more likely to get hurt than AJ, because he will get hit/tackled 350 times and AJ will only get hit/tackled 100 times. Of course that is far from an exact science, but its the only real thing we have to base potential injuries on.Sure, Greg Jennings is in one of the best offenses in the league, but that isnt always a good thing for a WR, especially in PPR's. While nothing in FF is for sure, one thing we can almost know for sure is AJ will lead his team in targts, and it likely wont even be close. As big of a fan of Jennings as i am, im not even sure i can say he will be the #2 for GB(although i think he will). Either way, there are too many mouths to feed in GB, so Jennings upside is limited, while AJ is a safe bet for 100 receptions and 1500 yards. TD's are fluky, and AJ has never really had a big TD season, yet he has still been the easy #1 PPR WR over the last two seasons. Just imagine if his TD numbers ever did match his reception and yardage numbers, would anyone really be suprised if they did?One more thing, Jennings probably wouldnt even be there at the 2.09 of a PPR, and it is almost guaranteed that Charles would be there for his 3.02 pick. With the depth there is at RB this year, i dont think taking AJ at the 1.2, Jennings at the 2.09(if he made it), then Charles at he 3.02 would be a bad strategy at all. I would bet there is better RB value in the 4th/5th round than there is WR value, at keast that seems to always be the case in PPR's leagues i have done.

 

[pantherclub]

My draft last weekend: 5 pick, ppr, 12 team

Ajohnson

Roddy White

Matt Schuab

Dwayne Bowe

Jermichael Finely

JStewart

Forsett

J Harrison

Marion Barber

VJackson

Darren McFadden

Zach Miller

Philly D

Garrett Hartley

Andre Brown

Panther D

I think my team is off the hook. All I need is Forsett or Harrison to be average at best. I have been screaming this all off season. You have to go against the grain with WR's and in the middle rounds a steal will drop to you. Jon Stewart and Marion Barber were steals in my book.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Anecdotal, but in last week's pre-season game against Dallas, Houston (and Andre Johnson) looked well-positioned to take advantage of new league rules that move the Umpire into the backfield.

care to explain this. How does this help Andre? It seems to me the new rule just slows down the offense. Can't snap the ball as quick at they want etc. I'm curious to know how that new rule would help a WR?

When the umpire was positioned behind linebackers, it tended to clog WR paths across the middle. Right?

No, it created an extra pick for the WRs to use. Moving the ref will make it easier to cover guys going across the middle.