Pierre Thomas, RB, New Orleans Saints (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

I will take any PMs thanking me for getting our boy rolling!

You got it!! The Flying Frenchman is back

 

[cr8f]

Did you guys cut Pierre before or after the TD?

People can't judge by the first half no matter how beak seems at the time. Minny has a good run defense.

 

[the Kid]

New pt projections260 carries/1,300 yards53 rec/342 yards16 total td's

I would like that. I would like that very much.

 

[shadyridr]

So pissed I sat PT as my RB3. I knew the hype on him was real even after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton calls PTs # when he wants to move the ball. He really is a great offensive play caller. PT is talented hes gonna be a stud this yr (in other words a bunch of games with 20 pts). Just the nature of the beast named PT. His year end #s will look good and he will be a pleasure to own all yr. I plan to use him on every week even during tough matchups.

 

[jon_mx]

Reggie Bush was over-hyped this year. He will have some games, but he is not #1 RB like some people were projecting. He will post some PPR numbers on a weekly basis, but is just a low end RB2.

 

[Raider Nation]

So pissed I sat PT as my RB3. I knew the hype on him was real even after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton calls PTs # when he wants to move the ball. He really is a great offensive play caller. PT is talented hes gonna be a stud this yr (in other words a bunch of games with 20 pts). Just the nature of the beast named PT. His year end #s will look good and he will be a pleasure to own all yr. I plan to use him on every week even during tough matchups.

How many beers deep are you, GB?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

So pissed I sat PT as my RB3. I knew the hype on him was real even after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton calls PTs # when he wants to move the ball. He really is a great offensive play caller. PT is talented hes gonna be a stud this yr (in other words a bunch of games with 20 pts). Just the nature of the beast named PT. His year end #s will look good and he will be a pleasure to own all yr. I plan to use him on every week even during tough matchups.

How many beers deep are you, GB?

lol yea. stud no. they just have to many offensive weapons for him to be very consistent in FF IMO.

 

[shadyridr]

So pissed I sat PT as my RB3. I knew the hype on him was real even after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton calls PTs # when he wants to move the ball. He really is a great offensive play caller. PT is talented hes gonna be a stud this yr (in other words a bunch of games with 20 pts). Just the nature of the beast named PT. His year end #s will look good and he will be a pleasure to own all yr. I plan to use him on every week even during tough matchups.

How many beers deep are you, GB?

lol yea. stud no. they just have to many offensive weapons for him to be very consistent in FF IMO.

woosh?

 

[groin pains]

I was not so confident. Considering he only got two (2) carries in the first half, he had a VERY good game against a tough run defense. Yes, I had to roll with him and I am pleased with the overall result!

 

[cvnpoka]

if you get these results from pierre for the rest of the yr then he is easily huge value at his adp. as i mentioned in the bush thread, the saints run the ball later in the game.

 

[Da Guru]

86 yards and a TD in basically one half of play, against a tough defense. Not too shabby.

 

[VaTerp]

Im very pleased tonite. Frustrated like everyone else with the slow start but I knew I needed to be patient. In a game that was set up for Bush to get a lot of touches based on the matchup and gameplan the stats looked like this:

Pierre- 22 touches for 86 yards and 1 TD

Bush- 7 touches for 45 yards and 0 TDs

Bush did look pretty good tonite and its clear they will use him extensively in the passing game but we drafted Pierre knowing that. And yes the Saints will spread the ball around to a lot of different options. We knew that to.

But the fact is the Pierre Thomas is the best RB on what is arguably the best offense in football. He could score 15 TDs this year on about 200 touches. And with no 3rd RB really in the mix right now, he should be in line to get more touches than he ever has before. Of course there are some games where he just isnt that involved and may give you a few duds over the season but overall I think PT owners should be cautiously optimistic.

Of all the weapons in the Saints offense he may be the most versatile and has as good a nose for the endzone as anyone IMO.

ETA- I think Pierre could have a season like Addai did in 2007. Maybe not as many touches but could be just as productive, if not more. Again though, Im just cautiously optimistic.

 

[G-Money]

Yeah........he basically only played one half (and looked solid). Don't panic.......he's gonna get his.

 

[abhall]

Reggie Bush was over-hyped this year. He will have some games, but he is not #1 RB like some people were projecting. He will post some PPR numbers on a weekly basis, but is just a low end RB2.

I haven't seen anyone project him as a #1RB. This includes PPR leagues with return yardage. His ADP is in the 6th round as a RB3.

 

[el-gato-grande]

I sat Pierre as my RB3 also, but I have to admit that I'm encouraged by his production against what was one of the best run defenses in the NFL over the past couple of seasons. The interior of the Saints line looked terrific. The Saints are going to be up in a bunch of games this year and it looks like we'll benefit from that as they ground it out tonight to run down the clock. Very good start for Thomas and the Saints running game.

 

[cvnpoka]

Yeah........he basically only played one half (and looked solid). Don't panic.......he's gonna get his.

yall need to realize he is usually only gonna play one half tho. its the way the saints do it. they dont do the workhorse thang. nor should the. their workhorse is brees. its fine. if he avgs 15 carries and 3 catches a game he destroys his adp. bush can get 10 and 3-5 and destroy his.

 

[MNTom]

Im very pleased tonite. Frustrated like everyone else with the slow start but I knew I needed to be patient. In a game that was set up for Bush to get a lot of touches based on the matchup and gameplan the stats looked like thisierre- 22 touches for 86 yards and 1 TDBush- 7 touches for 45 yards and 0 TDsBush did look pretty good tonite and its clear they will use him extensively in the passing game but we drafted Pierre knowing that. And yes the Saints will spread the ball around to a lot of different options. We knew that to.But the fact is the Pierre Thomas is the best RB on what is arguably the best offense in football. He could score 15 TDs this year on about 200 touches. And with no 3rd RB really in the mix right now, he should be in line to get more touches than he ever has before. Of course there are some games where he just isnt that involved and may give you a few duds over the season but overall I think PT owners should be cautiously optimistic.Of all the weapons in the Saints offense he may be the most versatile and has as good a nose for the endzone as anyone IMO.ETA- I think Pierre could have a season like Addai did in 2007. Maybe not as many touches but could be just as productive, if not more. Again though, Im just cautiously optimistic.

Payton will use the RB during each game as he sees fit. One game it may be Thomas the next Bush. I would not base the entire season on one game.

 

[Routilla]

Nice game from PT. He was close to scoring on a pass as well.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Im very pleased tonite. Frustrated like everyone else with the slow start but I knew I needed to be patient. In a game that was set up for Bush to get a lot of touches based on the matchup and gameplan the stats looked like thisierre- 22 touches for 86 yards and 1 TDBush- 7 touches for 45 yards and 0 TDsBush did look pretty good tonite and its clear they will use him extensively in the passing game but we drafted Pierre knowing that. And yes the Saints will spread the ball around to a lot of different options. We knew that to.But the fact is the Pierre Thomas is the best RB on what is arguably the best offense in football. He could score 15 TDs this year on about 200 touches. And with no 3rd RB really in the mix right now, he should be in line to get more touches than he ever has before. Of course there are some games where he just isnt that involved and may give you a few duds over the season but overall I think PT owners should be cautiously optimistic.Of all the weapons in the Saints offense he may be the most versatile and has as good a nose for the endzone as anyone IMO.ETA- I think Pierre could have a season like Addai did in 2007. Maybe not as many touches but could be just as productive, if not more. Again though, Im just cautiously optimistic.

Payton will use the RB during each game as he sees fit. One game it may be Thomas the next Bush. I would not base the entire season on one game.

Thomas is the better conventional RB, I can't see them giving Bush more carries then Thomas, unless Thomas is injured.

 

[MNTom]

Im very pleased tonite. Frustrated like everyone else with the slow start but I knew I needed to be patient. In a game that was set up for Bush to get a lot of touches based on the matchup and gameplan the stats looked like thisierre- 22 touches for 86 yards and 1 TDBush- 7 touches for 45 yards and 0 TDsBush did look pretty good tonite and its clear they will use him extensively in the passing game but we drafted Pierre knowing that. And yes the Saints will spread the ball around to a lot of different options. We knew that to.But the fact is the Pierre Thomas is the best RB on what is arguably the best offense in football. He could score 15 TDs this year on about 200 touches. And with no 3rd RB really in the mix right now, he should be in line to get more touches than he ever has before. Of course there are some games where he just isnt that involved and may give you a few duds over the season but overall I think PT owners should be cautiously optimistic.Of all the weapons in the Saints offense he may be the most versatile and has as good a nose for the endzone as anyone IMO.ETA- I think Pierre could have a season like Addai did in 2007. Maybe not as many touches but could be just as productive, if not more. Again though, Im just cautiously optimistic.

Payton will use the RB during each game as he sees fit. One game it may be Thomas the next Bush. I would not base the entire season on one game.

Thomas is the better conventional RB, I can't see them giving Bush more carries then Thomas, unless Thomas is injured.

Maybe not more. But I can see Bush getting close to the number of carries in some games and being more involved in the passing game

 

[VaTerp]

Im very pleased tonite. Frustrated like everyone else with the slow start but I knew I needed to be patient. In a game that was set up for Bush to get a lot of touches based on the matchup and gameplan the stats looked like thisierre- 22 touches for 86 yards and 1 TDBush- 7 touches for 45 yards and 0 TDsBush did look pretty good tonite and its clear they will use him extensively in the passing game but we drafted Pierre knowing that. And yes the Saints will spread the ball around to a lot of different options. We knew that to.But the fact is the Pierre Thomas is the best RB on what is arguably the best offense in football. He could score 15 TDs this year on about 200 touches. And with no 3rd RB really in the mix right now, he should be in line to get more touches than he ever has before. Of course there are some games where he just isnt that involved and may give you a few duds over the season but overall I think PT owners should be cautiously optimistic.Of all the weapons in the Saints offense he may be the most versatile and has as good a nose for the endzone as anyone IMO.ETA- I think Pierre could have a season like Addai did in 2007. Maybe not as many touches but could be just as productive, if not more. Again though, Im just cautiously optimistic.

Payton will use the RB during each game as he sees fit. One game it may be Thomas the next Bush. I would not base the entire season on one game.

I'm not basing the entire season on one game. But I am stating the reasons why I think Pierre can have a very good FF year based on the trends of this game and the last 2 seasons.I know Payton will use the RBs as he sees fit and some games will feature Bush more. But we pretty much know what the roles will be. Bush is featured heavily in the passing game and will get his share of carries but the last 3 years, tonite, and common sense shows us that Bush is not a RB that Payton is going to just hand the ball off to. Unless its due to injury to others.Last year it was clear that when the Saints wanted to run the ball they gave it to Mike Bell or Pierre Thomas. This year with Bell not there, and PT being the more effective RB anyway, Pierre is gonna be the one who gets the ball when the Saints want to run. And that should be in a lot of 2nd halfs this year. This game was tailor made for Bush to outscore Pierre and to get a lot of touches and Thomas still put up very good numbers.The key is the absence of a 3rd RB. That's what really tempered PT's value last year. And I am cautious with my optimism b/c when Ivory gets healthy or something crazy happens and they sign some other RB, I know Payton could throw a wrench in things. But its clear to me that when the Saints primarily use 2 RBs and Pierre is one of them, he's getting a bigger piece of the pie regardless of scoring format.

 

[basher]

Pierre was the difference maker that second half. The offense did seem a little less stagnant when he was in the game (aside from the opening drive) ... either way he will get his touches all year long and be fairly efficient with them. Bush will get run but Pierre is easily the primary runner in the backfield.

 

[MNTom]

Im very pleased tonite. Frustrated like everyone else with the slow start but I knew I needed to be patient. In a game that was set up for Bush to get a lot of touches based on the matchup and gameplan the stats looked like this:

Pierre- 22 touches for 86 yards and 1 TD

Bush- 7 touches for 45 yards and 0 TDs

Bush did look pretty good tonite and its clear they will use him extensively in the passing game but we drafted Pierre knowing that. And yes the Saints will spread the ball around to a lot of different options. We knew that to.

But the fact is the Pierre Thomas is the best RB on what is arguably the best offense in football. He could score 15 TDs this year on about 200 touches. And with no 3rd RB really in the mix right now, he should be in line to get more touches than he ever has before. Of course there are some games where he just isnt that involved and may give you a few duds over the season but overall I think PT owners should be cautiously optimistic.

Of all the weapons in the Saints offense he may be the most versatile and has as good a nose for the endzone as anyone IMO.

ETA- I think Pierre could have a season like Addai did in 2007. Maybe not as many touches but could be just as productive, if not more. Again though, Im just cautiously optimistic.

Payton will use the RB during each game as he sees fit. One game it may be Thomas the next Bush. I would not base the entire season on one game.

I'm not basing the entire season on one game. But I am stating the reasons why I think Pierre can have a very good FF year based on the trends of this game and the last 2 seasons.I know Payton will use the RBs as he sees fit and some games will feature Bush more. But we pretty much know what the roles will be. Bush is featured heavily in the passing game and will get his share of carries but the last 3 years, tonite, and common sense shows us that Bush is not a RB that Payton is going to just hand the ball off to. Unless its due to injury to others.

Last year it was clear that when the Saints wanted to run the ball they gave it to Mike Bell or Pierre Thomas. This year with Bell not there, and PT being the more effective RB anyway, Pierre is gonna be the one who gets the ball when the Saints want to run. And that should be in a lot of 2nd halfs this year. This game was tailor made for Bush to outscore Pierre and to get a lot of touches and Thomas still put up very good numbers.

The key is the absence of a 3rd RB. That's what really tempered PT's value last year. And I am cautious with my optimism b/c when Ivory gets healthy or something crazy happens and they sign some other RB, I know Payton could throw a wrench in things.

But its clear to me that when the Saints primarily use 2 RBs and Pierre is one of them, he's getting a bigger piece of the pie regardless of scoring format.

I agree with most except the highlighted. The Vikings have very good LB's that can cover RB's and limit their touches thru the passing game

 

[MNTom]

Pierre was the difference maker that second half. The offense did seem a little less stagnant when he was in the game (aside from the opening drive) ... either way he will get his touches all year long and be fairly efficient with them. Bush will get run but Pierre is easily the primary runner in the backfield.

Offensive line was opening good holes. Don't forget to give them credit.

 

[basher]

Pierre was the difference maker that second half. The offense did seem a little less stagnant when he was in the game (aside from the opening drive) ... either way he will get his touches all year long and be fairly efficient with them. Bush will get run but Pierre is easily the primary runner in the backfield.

Offensive line was opening good holes. Don't forget to give them credit.

yeah I was surprised to not see K.Williams make much of an impact at all. Also, P.Williams had a nice first half but is showing that he might not have juice for a full game. Only game number one though so still a lot of season left but there were troubling signs. That secondary played about as well as could be expected and they were less than mediocre. The saints just missed on a few balls that by mid season I doubt they miss on.

 

[aimlessgun]

Well tonight made me feel better about having Pierre in 8 leagues. I usually bought him with the expectation of about 1200 YFS and 9-10 scores, and this initial absence of a 3rd RB to give him 22 touches is encouraging.

 

[Spark026]

His solid run from the 6, and then the 1yd punch-in were perhaps the 2 most important plays of the game for PT owners. If he ever becomes the go-to back near the endzone, he can go from above avg PPR RB, to elite. Btw, 19 carries matched his highest total from all of last year.

Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

The key is the absence of a 3rd RB. That's what really tempered PT's value last year.

If Thomas has 3-4 good weeks, it might be time to move him before Ivory returns.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

Pierre was the difference maker that second half. The offense did seem a little less stagnant when he was in the game (aside from the opening drive) ... either way he will get his touches all year long and be fairly efficient with them. Bush will get run but Pierre is easily the primary runner in the backfield.

Offensive line was opening good holes. Don't forget to give them credit.

+1Love Pierre but Nicks/Goodwin/Evans are dominant. They were blowing up the interior of the Vikes D line on just about every play of the 4th quarter. If they keep playing like that the Saints are going to get serious production from Pierre/Bush/Ivory or whoever they put in. I'm pretty sure the biggest, fattest, drunkest Saints fan in the building would've been able to pick up a few yards behind that line.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

I think that was just a matter of circumstance. Payton is going to look at the tape and slap himself when he realizes that Bush only got 2 carries. He looks like a different back, and that's dating back to the playoffs last year and the huge game he had against the Cards.

 

[jon_mx]

His solid run from the 6, and then the 1yd punch-in were perhaps the 2 most important plays of the game for PT owners. If he ever becomes the go-to back near the endzone, he can go from above avg PPR RB, to elite. Btw, 19 carries matched his highest total from all of last year.Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

There will only be one player on the Saints who will be an elite fantasy player, and it ain't Pierre.

 

[groin pains]

Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

I think that was just a matter of circumstance. Payton is going to look at the tape and slap himself when he realizes that Bush only got 2 carries. He looks like a different back, and that's dating back to the playoffs last year and the huge game he had against the Cards.

Why would he slap himself? When the ball needed to be moved, PT did the job. Will PT's runs be edited from the tape he watches?

 

[shader]

Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

I think that was just a matter of circumstance. Payton is going to look at the tape and slap himself when he realizes that Bush only got 2 carries. He looks like a different back, and that's dating back to the playoffs last year and the huge game he had against the Cards.

Why would he slap himself? When the ball needed to be moved, PT did the job. Will PT's runs be edited from the tape he watches?

I think the point is that Bush looked excellent and he'll get the ball more than 2 carries. My opinion is that Bush will get 80-100 catches, and I maintain that after last night. But he's got to get more than 2 carries..he's playing too well.The problem was the pass-wacky first half offense that didn't work. Pierre and Bush need to be part of the gameplan at all times.The good thing about SP though, is that when something works, he will abuse the heck out of it. When Pierre started gouging the middle of that Dline, he stuck to it the whole 2nd half and it paid dividends.

 

[theplayer11]

Yeah........he basically only played one half (and looked solid). Don't panic.......he's gonna get his.

yall need to realize he is usually only gonna play one half tho. its the way the saints do it. they dont do the workhorse thang. nor should the. their workhorse is brees. its fine. if he avgs 15 carries and 3 catches a game he destroys his adp. bush can get 10 and 3-5 and destroy his.

15 carries will not destroy his ADP

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

I think that was just a matter of circumstance. Payton is going to look at the tape and slap himself when he realizes that Bush only got 2 carries. He looks like a different back, and that's dating back to the playoffs last year and the huge game he had against the Cards.

Why would he slap himself? When the ball needed to be moved, PT did the job. Will PT's runs be edited from the tape he watches?

I think the point is that Bush looked excellent and he'll get the ball more than 2 carries. My opinion is that Bush will get 80-100 catches, and I maintain that after last night. But he's got to get more than 2 carries..he's playing too well.The problem was the pass-wacky first half offense that didn't work. Pierre and Bush need to be part of the gameplan at all times.The good thing about SP though, is that when something works, he will abuse the heck out of it. When Pierre started gouging the middle of that Dline, he stuck to it the whole 2nd half and it paid dividends.

80-100 catches is a bit much considering the way the offense spreads the ball around. 70-90 might be a bit more reasonable.And regardless of how good Bush did tonight, he is still not the best RB on the team. He may be better than PT at catching the ball in open space but in conventional terms, PT is the superior back and should average somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 touches a game (17-18 carries 2-3 rec) vs Bushes 10 touches a game (5 carries 5 rec)Bush does a great job doing his part on the field which is being an explosive play maker, but PT is definitely the better RB. They're 2 different roles...

 

[groin pains]

Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

I think that was just a matter of circumstance. Payton is going to look at the tape and slap himself when he realizes that Bush only got 2 carries. He looks like a different back, and that's dating back to the playoffs last year and the huge game he had against the Cards.

Why would he slap himself? When the ball needed to be moved, PT did the job. Will PT's runs be edited from the tape he watches?

I think the point is that Bush looked excellent and he'll get the ball more than 2 carries. My opinion is that Bush will get 80-100 catches, and I maintain that after last night. But he's got to get more than 2 carries..he's playing too well.The problem was the pass-wacky first half offense that didn't work. Pierre and Bush need to be part of the gameplan at all times.

The good thing about SP though, is that when something works, he will abuse the heck out of it. When Pierre started gouging the middle of that Dline, he stuck to it the whole 2nd half and it paid dividends.

With those figures, he would have been a 1st round pick im my PPR league!

 

[Shadows]

I play in 0.5 PPR leagues - 6 pt TDs.

Thomas's last 22 games he has averaged 17.1 PPG.

6 games in 08 (His average carries over the first 10 weeks were 4, over the last 6 games his average carries lifted to 16)

13 games in 09

3 play off games in 09

Thomas is going to be dead set money this year. Goal Line Duties added. He is ur typical unsexi pick that falls continually leading up to draft day.

 

[gsmayes]

Reggie Bush was over-hyped this year. He will have some games, but he is not #1 RB like some people were projecting. He will post some PPR numbers on a weekly basis, but is just a low end RB2.

I haven't seen anyone project him as a #1RB. This includes PPR leagues with return yardage. His ADP is in the 6th round as a RB3.

In what league does he last to the 6th? MFL has Pierre Thomas' ADP as 36.18, ranked as the 15th rb off the board; which makes him a high level #2 rb. And he could be someone's #1 rb if they went QB/WR or WR/WR in the first round.

 

[Moniker]

So glad I only have PT as my RB3. Cant believe I "fell" for the hype again after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton spreads the ball around to everybody and plays to the defenses weaknesses. He really is a great offensive play caller. Although I think PT is talented hes gonna be very inconsistent this yr (in other words a bunch of games of 5 pts and a bunch at 20). Just the nature of the beast when drafting a player on the Saints. His year end #s will look good but he will be frustrating to own all yr. I plan to use him on bye weeks and only great matchups unless I could trade him after a big game.

So pissed I sat PT as my RB3. I knew the hype on him was real even after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton calls PTs # when he wants to move the ball. He really is a great offensive play caller. PT is talented hes gonna be a stud this yr (in other words a bunch of games with 20 pts). Just the nature of the beast named PT. His year end #s will look good and he will be a pleasure to own all yr. I plan to use him on every week even during tough matchups.

Things can change fast in 30 minutes

 

[metoo]

His solid run from the 6, and then the 1yd punch-in were perhaps the 2 most important plays of the game for PT owners. If he ever becomes the go-to back near the endzone, he can go from above avg PPR RB, to elite. Btw, 19 carries matched his highest total from all of last year.Bush looked good, but I don't think you'll see him be much more heavily involved than that heading forward.

There will only be one player on the Saints who will be an elite fantasy player, and it ain't Pierre.

Yep. Brees is the only Saints player I want. Bush looked good on his runs as well.

 

[Casting Couch]

The key is the absence of a 3rd RB. That's what really tempered PT's value last year.

If Thomas has 3-4 good weeks, it might be time to move him before Ivory returns.

This.

 

[fightingillini]

The key is the absence of a 3rd RB. That's what really tempered PT's value last year.

If Thomas has 3-4 good weeks, it might be time to move him before Ivory returns.

I would start looking now if you have a decent option to replace him......selling that PT will get 15-20 carries a game. IMO, his value might not be any higher than it is right now. Bush did look good and could easily get 7-9 carries a game along with his 4-6 receptions.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So glad I only have PT as my RB3. Cant believe I "fell" for the hype again after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton spreads the ball around to everybody and plays to the defenses weaknesses. He really is a great offensive play caller. Although I think PT is talented hes gonna be very inconsistent this yr (in other words a bunch of games of 5 pts and a bunch at 20). Just the nature of the beast when drafting a player on the Saints. His year end #s will look good but he will be frustrating to own all yr. I plan to use him on bye weeks and only great matchups unless I could trade him after a big game.

So pissed I sat PT as my RB3. I knew the hype on him was real even after saying I would never draft him again after the frustration of last season. Fact is Peyton calls PTs # when he wants to move the ball. He really is a great offensive play caller. PT is talented hes gonna be a stud this yr (in other words a bunch of games with 20 pts). Just the nature of the beast named PT. His year end #s will look good and he will be a pleasure to own all yr. I plan to use him on every week even during tough matchups.

Things can change fast in 30 minutes

It was clever postings by shady but lets be honest here. This is how many of us think and feel when a player stinks up the joint for a few quarters or games.

 

[cvnpoka]

Yeah........he basically only played one half (and looked solid). Don't panic.......he's gonna get his.

yall need to realize he is usually only gonna play one half tho. its the way the saints do it. they dont do the workhorse thang. nor should the. their workhorse is brees. its fine. if he avgs 15 carries and 3 catches a game he destroys his adp. bush can get 10 and 3-5 and destroy his.

15 carries will not destroy his ADP

i meant it in a good way. like he would be great value where he was drafted.