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NCCommish
Footballguy
Last season, Mrs. Sweet Love was diagnosed with breast cancer. We found out the last week of September and did not tell the kids until mid-October and I found the month of October to be just brutal...much of it of course was due to the cancer, but my one escape has always been Sunday Football, and it became a constant reminder. I get it from the awareness standpoint, but it was hard. I am curious how I will look at it this year, and especially how those who lost someone close view it (Mrs. SL is doing fine now).
NCCommish
Footballguy
The story is Deangelo Williams was a big driver of this based on his own families history with breast cancer. Some have given him all the credit for the NFL doing this at all but I am not sure that's completely true.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Glad Mrs SL is doing well."The idea for the shoes came from Carolina Panthers running back DeAngelo Williams. He had heard about the other pink items the N.F.L. had planned for teams and proposed the cleats because of their primacy to players."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/sports/football/30nfl.html
Recent story after she died.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/deangelo-williams-mom-died-inspired-pink-cleats-in-nfl-051614
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⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Jesus. Who cares. Let them wear pink. Big deal.
Mookie
Footballguy
The league has raised almost $5 million for the American Cancer Society, largely through the auction and sale of worn pink memorabilia. I've also read about people who were compelled to get checked out by watching the games, and had cancer detected early. I for one can tolerate having to watch a little more pink out there on game days.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
This guy probably waits for the short bus so he can make fun of the mentally challenged kids.
HellToupee
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Bumping this in honor of another month of pink oversaturation.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Happy Invasion 2015 everyone!
Shutout
Footballguy
I think with this issue, especially with the mention from several that point out that it has becomes as much about marketing to women and sales as anything else, that it should be retired.
Like most things in life, too much of anything is not good. It has went from something that we saw the first time and really took notice and paid attention to the awareness stories around it to something that is getting tuned out. It is akin to if you never had candy in your house and then suddenly do. At first you would probably be all over that kitchen, eating too much of it, etc. But if your cookie jar is always full, sooner or later, it is just another saturated thing that you take for granted.
It made it's point. It really DID increase awareness. It DID make money for the NFL. It DID draw females to the sport. Everyone won because the money making people made money and, let's face it, if it saved one life, that's a win for us all.
Like most things in life, too much of anything is not good. It has went from something that we saw the first time and really took notice and paid attention to the awareness stories around it to something that is getting tuned out. It is akin to if you never had candy in your house and then suddenly do. At first you would probably be all over that kitchen, eating too much of it, etc. But if your cookie jar is always full, sooner or later, it is just another saturated thing that you take for granted.
It made it's point. It really DID increase awareness. It DID make money for the NFL. It DID draw females to the sport. Everyone won because the money making people made money and, let's face it, if it saved one life, that's a win for us all.
tone1oc
Footballguy
Aren't we aware though?
If NFL and orgs like Komen weren't profiteering off the awareness I would have zero problems.. Well almost, I also think that there are many more forms of cancer/diseases that we could invest time in raising awareness for, especially given the inordinate amount of time that breast cancer has received.
How about Heart Disease (which kills more US citizens than ALL of cancer combined)/ALS or Alzheimers which is woefully behind in research & money/Prostate Cancer (just as prevalent as breast cancer)
And that is not to mention all the breakthrough's going on in oncology that are being burdened by redtape/lobbying from the "Cancer Industry", to which the pink movement directly promotes.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Of course they said no. So many folks deal with these things on an emotional level. Cancer sucks more than anything I can think of. I have lost a lot of family to cancer.
DeAngelo's heart is in the right place and I might make the same request. But uniforms are uniforms for a reason - so everybody on the same team looks the same making it easier for players, spectators and refs to tell the teams apart. So next you say, hey it's only one guy - it's not a big deal. But then somebody else has ANOTHER horrible loss caused by another ####ty disease, and he wants to wear yellow. And the NFL is not going to be able to say, yeah, DeAngelo can wear breast cancer pink, but John over there can't wear lung cancer white. How are they supposed to judge the worthiness of causes and hardships?
So in the end, the NFL would basically just have to allow the players to wear whatever they want all the time aside from jerseys etc, and they probably just aren't prepared to do that. And it also would take away anything that was special about pink in the first place - it wouldn't stand out.
And I generally feel obliged to mention this though it always ruffles feathers...
Breast cancer receives in the neighborhood of 5 to 10 times the amount of funding per death caused than lung cancer. When the pink movement started, it was great. But at this point, AWARENESS of breast cancer doesn't seem to be an issue - at least relative to other deadly diseases. Lung cancer kills about 160,000 people per year, and has a 17% 5 year survival rate. This is overwhelmingly more deadly than breast cancer.
Manster
Footballguy
I don't disagree that there are other diseases that need attention....my problem is with jagoffs that complain about pink because it doesn't fit into their neat little world. Who ####### cares! Kinda like the guy who was complaining about faust......maybe it's an age/life experience thing, or a pampered American thing, I dunno. ####in get over it, and grow up!
tone1oc
Footballguy
There are plenty of valid reasons to critique the pink movement, perhaps some are trivial and not valid, but doesn't mean others aren't. And when you are calling people jagoffs while using expletives because their opinion varies from your own your age/life experience point doesn't hold much water to me.
Killtops
Footballguy
This thread is disappointing.
To the people who think that wearing pink is too unmanly for a sport like football, please consider that your narrow conceptions of masculinity contribute to the worst kinds of behavior in young people, particularly bullying and sexual harassment.
To the people who think that this is one more step in the degeneration of a game that was once gloriously violent, please consider that brain injuries have nothing to do with toughness. If you've seen what concussions can do to a human being, one hopes that you would not cheer young men getting the brains permanently, irreversibly damaged for your personal entertainment.
To the people who think that we are all aware of breast cancer, so we should just stop this campaign because it mildly interferes with your enjoyment of the game, please consider that awareness is not something that you "have" or "do not have." It is something that you do continuously if you are going to succeed at it. Awareness saves lives... unless you stop doing it.
To the people who think that this is a BS cause because other things kill more people, you are right. But is it the NFL's job (or any other company raising awareness/money for charity) to sit down at the start of each fiscal year and determine what disease or tragedy causes the most deaths, and then focus on that? That's ridiculous. The NFL chose a cause that is close to many people's hearts (as this thread shows). I think it was a good decision, and shouldn't be evaluated based on casualty numbers.
To the people who point out that this is all just a cynical money grab by the cancer industry and the greedy NFL, I definitely see your point. I think that in a better world, this would be less cynical, and less of a money grab. However, this campaign does raise awareness for breast cancer, it does raise money for research, it does work as a marketing campaign for the NFL, it does target female fans. I don't think any of these things are particularly bad, although I wish more of the focus was on the first two. But in marketing it is perfectly reasonable, and perfectly common, to have these win-win kind of campaigns.
I think one of the greatest outcomes of this campaign is seeing large, athletic men wearing traditionally feminine colors. It shows that no one is too manly to embrace some form of femininity. It shows that manliness comes in many different shapes, sizes, and colors. It also shows solidarity between these large, manly men and the women in their lives who may have to face this illness.
No doubt the NFL has a problem when it comes to violence against women. I will never defend them on this front, and I'm disappointed that the commissioner didn't lose his job over his poor handling of high profile domestic abuse cases. Yet, if we can put aside our cynicism, this month-long awareness campaign can actually be one of the few positive things the NFL has done for their female fans.
To the people who think that wearing pink is too unmanly for a sport like football, please consider that your narrow conceptions of masculinity contribute to the worst kinds of behavior in young people, particularly bullying and sexual harassment.
To the people who think that this is one more step in the degeneration of a game that was once gloriously violent, please consider that brain injuries have nothing to do with toughness. If you've seen what concussions can do to a human being, one hopes that you would not cheer young men getting the brains permanently, irreversibly damaged for your personal entertainment.
To the people who think that we are all aware of breast cancer, so we should just stop this campaign because it mildly interferes with your enjoyment of the game, please consider that awareness is not something that you "have" or "do not have." It is something that you do continuously if you are going to succeed at it. Awareness saves lives... unless you stop doing it.
To the people who think that this is a BS cause because other things kill more people, you are right. But is it the NFL's job (or any other company raising awareness/money for charity) to sit down at the start of each fiscal year and determine what disease or tragedy causes the most deaths, and then focus on that? That's ridiculous. The NFL chose a cause that is close to many people's hearts (as this thread shows). I think it was a good decision, and shouldn't be evaluated based on casualty numbers.
To the people who point out that this is all just a cynical money grab by the cancer industry and the greedy NFL, I definitely see your point. I think that in a better world, this would be less cynical, and less of a money grab. However, this campaign does raise awareness for breast cancer, it does raise money for research, it does work as a marketing campaign for the NFL, it does target female fans. I don't think any of these things are particularly bad, although I wish more of the focus was on the first two. But in marketing it is perfectly reasonable, and perfectly common, to have these win-win kind of campaigns.
I think one of the greatest outcomes of this campaign is seeing large, athletic men wearing traditionally feminine colors. It shows that no one is too manly to embrace some form of femininity. It shows that manliness comes in many different shapes, sizes, and colors. It also shows solidarity between these large, manly men and the women in their lives who may have to face this illness.
No doubt the NFL has a problem when it comes to violence against women. I will never defend them on this front, and I'm disappointed that the commissioner didn't lose his job over his poor handling of high profile domestic abuse cases. Yet, if we can put aside our cynicism, this month-long awareness campaign can actually be one of the few positive things the NFL has done for their female fans.
Manster
Footballguy
My life experience is that my wife was diagnosed with brest cacer at age 33. This was in 2014. My kids were 5 and 2 at the time. Needless to say our whole world was turned upside down in a moment......bilateral mastectomy with complete reconstruction, super aggressive chemo because of her age and genetic makeup of the cancer....basically younger women typically get nastier breast cancers....they are not all created equal....as of this moment she's cancer free. She's thinking about her "time line", raising our kids, and being able to see them become adults.
Here's some awareness for ya....u get lumpy breasts when u breast feed, apparently. My wife had finished breast feeding my son. She had a lump that she thot was milk that never expressed.....well it didn't go away, and it started growing and getting painful...it was rather large....from about the time my wife was diagnosed, until her cancer was staged I was mentally prepared to lose her and raise my kids solo....luckily, it wasn't in her lymph nodes yet.....so now we just continue to do checkups and hope it doesn't come back. When it comes back it typically comes back other parts of the body, and with a vengeance.
So, I apologize for bein a D.....I know many have been through much more than my family and I have....I still have my wife.
tone1oc
Footballguy
The emboldened is the group where I see myself in, and though we disagree this post is very well said and hard to argue with your point of view.
It bothers me when charity is done to promote self-- there is a huge grey area with this thinking in the moral obligation we have to help people. I can see both sides, but I just can't help but roll my eyes at the NFL for using this campaign to sell stuff and market to women.
All that said, it's not something I'm yelling from the rooftops or causes great distain or even any dissatisfaction with the product on the field. I think reasonable discussion is a good thing.
I wonder how someone who hates football finds his way to Football Guys. Maybe a sport that better fits your 'broad' definition of masculinity would be more suitable. Figure Skating perhaps.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I have issues with Komen specifically. They're very litigious over anyone who tries to use "..for a cure" without their endorsement/permission. I've read many articles about the efficiency of the organization and the percentage of their budget that goes toward fundraising & marketing.I also feel like the awareness for this specific disease is disproportionate relative to other diseases that have a far more devastating and widespread impact on society.
The NFL bragging about raising $5M is a joke. In six years? We're taking about a $10 billion (annual revenue) organization with nearly $3B attributable to merchandise. That $5M came from a 5% residual ("a portion of the proceeds"), meaning that on merchandise marked up 100%, they kept 90% of the profits for themselves. WTG folks, that passes for sacrifice these days.
While those are all valid points, the pink thing...oh please. Love pink. I'm wearing (not for awareness purposes) pink today. I don't think anyone is actually protesting pink, right?
Anyway, the whole thing is a bit of a sham. But people aren't interested in genuine commitment to effect change. A Like or a Share on FB, which costs absolutely nothing, that will suffice. Buying a pink shirt or walking five miles to raise money from others pledging, that stuff equates to supporting a cause. Real dedication is a quaint & antiquated notion.
We have several cancer survivors in my family. Three from breast cancer in the last two years. The rate of survival is at an all-time high, and I am grateful. But if I never see another thing from Komen the rest of my life that would be just fine.
/rant
The NFL bragging about raising $5M is a joke. In six years? We're taking about a $10 billion (annual revenue) organization with nearly $3B attributable to merchandise. That $5M came from a 5% residual ("a portion of the proceeds"), meaning that on merchandise marked up 100%, they kept 90% of the profits for themselves. WTG folks, that passes for sacrifice these days.
While those are all valid points, the pink thing...oh please. Love pink. I'm wearing (not for awareness purposes) pink today. I don't think anyone is actually protesting pink, right?
Anyway, the whole thing is a bit of a sham. But people aren't interested in genuine commitment to effect change. A Like or a Share on FB, which costs absolutely nothing, that will suffice. Buying a pink shirt or walking five miles to raise money from others pledging, that stuff equates to supporting a cause. Real dedication is a quaint & antiquated notion.
We have several cancer survivors in my family. Three from breast cancer in the last two years. The rate of survival is at an all-time high, and I am grateful. But if I never see another thing from Komen the rest of my life that would be just fine.
/rant
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
FTR I love boobies. So there's that. Pink on, brothers.
sportsphysio
Footballguy
I don't dispute that the pink theme is used as a money grab by corporations, but the ultimate money grab was performed by the Founder and former CEO of the Komen Foundation, to the tune of an annual salary of over $650,000/year. She made more than the head of the Red Cross, which is a organization that is 10 times the size of the Komen Foundation.
She was overpaid by almost half a million dollars per year, money that should have gone to research for a cure, yet she used it to pad her own purse. That is what pisses me off every time I see this time of year roll around.
She was overpaid by almost half a million dollars per year, money that should have gone to research for a cure, yet she used it to pad her own purse. That is what pisses me off every time I see this time of year roll around.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
The NFL donates a percentage of pink NFL merchandise to the American Cancer Society and not Komen. I think it is weird that some people have a problem with the players wearing pink cleats, gloves, or towels with their uniforms in October, or have a problem with just the fact the NFL joins in with many organizations in taking part in Breast Cancer Awareness month in October. Many of those players, coaches, staff, owners, etc. have lost someone to breast cancer or have love ones that are survivors. There are a lot of bad things going on in this world, but being a part of Breast Cancer Awareness in October isn't one of them. As BobbyLayne said, Pink on, Brothers.
tone1oc
Footballguy
sportsphysio
Footballguy
I think you misunderstood my posting. I'm not bashing the pink theme to promote awareness. What I do have a major problem with is someone receiving excessive financial compensation from a foundation whose primary purpose is to raise money to help find a cure (and the Komen Foundation created the pink marketing campaign). As far as I'm concerned, anything she received above that which is considered reasonable for an organization of it's size is downright thievery. That money should have gone to "the cause," not her personal bank account. I'm all for company's donating to the Cancer Society, and have no issues seeing pink this time of year. I was simply pointing out my issue with the creator of the marketing campaign, which many people are not aware of.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
You don't think that, but since you took the time to bold that part out of everything I said, I'll explain for you as simply as I can what my feelings are behind "Pink on, Brothers". My "Pink On, Brothers" is in spirit of the NFL brothers and others continuing to recognize BCA in October. If BobbyLayne meant it in a different way, then whatever.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
I don't think it's BS at all from the average spectator or player's perspective. I think many, like DeAngelo, are just trying to do right. From the NFL perspective, maybe they have great intentions, maybe they are just looking at the bottom line, hard to say.Killtops said:
But IN GENERAL, among all diseases that truly need awareness at this point, breast cancer probably ranks near the bottom. Is it the NFL's job to find the right cause to espouse? Well, it kinda does fall on the organization to do something they think will make the most impact IF that's what they are really trying to accomplish. Otherwise, they truly are just pandering. "The NFL chose a cause close to many people's hearts" sounds a whole lot like "The NFL chose a cause that will generate the most goodwill in a specific or general demographic." Great things have been accomplished by organizations with no grander goals that that, so I'm not saying it's inherently evil. Money for a good cause is money for a good cause and $5M is a lot of money any way you look at it. On the other hand, the Saints and the Dolphins alone paid more than $50M this year to players not on their team anymore
Given all of that, I kind of agree with you that this doesn't completely fall into the NFL's bucket. Knowledgeable people can help simply by doing what we are doing - having a discussion about the causes themselves. That doesn't mean I want to start a breast cancer anti-awareness campaign. Breast cancer awareness is a worthy cause that has no doubt saved lives. It just means that it's frustrating sometimes when nearly all of the attention goes to the issue that needs the least help at this point, with the reason being simply that it is convenient and "in" right now. Evaluation by casualty numbers may seem harsh, but In the real world the capacity to give and even the capacity to pay attention is limited, and I'd rather see the attention and the funds go to the areas where they can do the most good. I'd like to see the focus change - not just in the NFL, but across the board. This pink thing has been outrageously effective and I'm glad of it, but it's time we all kind of looked around and asked what's next.
Killtops
Footballguy
Figure skating is awesome. Just traded for Patrick Chan in my FFS dynasty league. Dude is a stud - the Julio Jones of the men's short program.Quasimoto said:
I take back my disappointment. There are some diamonds in this rough. Cheers to those who have been touched by breast cancer.
bizkliz
Footballguy
As a cancer survivor myself (diagnosed 1993, non-Hodgkins lymphoma / Burkitt's, 18 months of chemo with no radiation) I fail to see how bringing more awareness to this disease is a bad thing?
I also am glad to hear Mrs. SL is doing well.
To reiterate. F cancer! And if anybody needs a stark reminder, please rewatch the Jim Valvano speech. Personally helps me to put things in perspective.
-biz-
I also am glad to hear Mrs. SL is doing well.
To reiterate. F cancer! And if anybody needs a stark reminder, please rewatch the Jim Valvano speech. Personally helps me to put things in perspective.
-biz-
simey
Footballguy
October has been National Breast Cancer Awareness Month for many many years (since 1985), and it seems logical to me that the NFL would start recognizing it since October is a part of their season. The NFL recognizes Military Appreciation in November, and instead of using pink they use camouflage.
simey
Footballguy
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Unaware of what? Maybe I should have qualified "all diseases". I'm thinking of things like lung cancer, heart disease, ALS, etc.
September is prostrate cancer and ovarian cancer awareness month. Lung cancer awareness month is November. Pancreatic cancer is also November. All are in the middle of the NFL season.
How many folks know about those compared to the folks that know about breast cancer awareness month? How many know the colors associated with them? There are probably a few dozen types of cancer alone that have colors associated with their awareness campaigns. And of course there are many more for other serious conditions and diseases. How many can the average person name? How many know the color or month for heart disease which kills 600,000 people per year (about 15 times as many lives as breast cancer)? Now how many folks DON'T know that pink is the color for breast cancer awareness?
Breast cancer research also receives more research funding than any other type of cancer. Pancreatic cancer kills about as many people in the US as breast cancer every year. The 5 year survival rate is shockingly low. It receives about a 6th of the funding used for breast cancer research. Lung cancer kills 4 times as many per year and receives less than half the funding.
I'm not a doctor, but I'm not uninformed either. I've lost separate immediate family members to pancreatic cancer, lung cancer, brain cancer, and multiple myeloma. I've also lost immediate family to heart disease. I'm guessing most of us have.
I'm not at all saying "don't acknowledge breast cancer awareness month". I'm DEFINITELY not trying to downplay the devastation a disease like breast cancer can cause. I'm saying why not put SOME of the breast cancer emphasis on OTHER devastating diseases... Pink has worked REALLY well and I hope it continues to work well, but not at the expense of additional research for every other deadly disease.
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93_Confirmed
Footballguy
The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
I think we all know why. There's no money in that. These posts sum it up nicely:93_Confirmed said:The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
simey
Footballguy
Women make up 45 percent of the NFL’s fanbase. Anyway, there will always be some people who like to poop on something good. It's sad, but true.93_Confirmed said:The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
Do you find that people in general are unaware that breast cancer is bad news? Because I find that they are about as aware as humanly possible. Breast cancer survival rates are very high compared to say, Pancreatic cancer. Why not move on to a disease that people are less aware of if awareness is the real goal? Maybe because Pancratic Cancer awareness would appeal to a less profitable demographic, thereby generating less revenue for the NFL?simey said:
A specious stat, if it's even legit. Most of the female football 'fans' I know are casual observers at best. The NFL is obviously using breast cancer awareness to ingratiate itself to women in an attempt to monetize that goodwill. It ain't noble.Women make up 45 percent of the NFL’s fanbase. Anyway, there will always be some people who like to poop on something good. It's sad, but true.93_Confirmed said:The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
tone1oc
Footballguy
Just as there will always be naivety and corporate whoring by the NFL.Women make up 45 percent of the NFL’s fanbase. Anyway, there will always be some people who like to poop on something good. It's sad, but true.93_Confirmed said:The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
simey
Footballguy
Why wouldn't it be legit? Look it up. By the way, I am a female football fan, and I've been playing fantasy football for 16 years. The majority of my female friends and family also enjoy watching football.A specious stat, if it's even legit. Most of the female football 'fans' I know are casual observers at best. The NFL is obviously using breast cancer awareness to ingratiate itself to women in an attempt to monetize that goodwill. It ain't noble.Women make up 45 percent of the NFL’s fanbase. Anyway, there will always be some people who like to poop on something good. It's sad, but true.93_Confirmed said:The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
Ok, I will...if you'll look up specious. There is a difference between someone who "enjoys watching football" and the kind of rabid fans that spend too much money on, and devote all their free time to the sport. The latter are the fans the NFL covets, so if they can convert a large number of women into that type of fan by making themselves seem like a corporation that is in touch with its feminine side, then they are all over it. Even if they can't convert them, they may hope to earn enough goodwill so that wives and girlfriends are less likely to object to their men's obsession with the game. It's marketing.Why wouldn't it be legit? Look it up. By the way, I am a female football fan, and I've been playing fantasy football for 16 years. The majority of my female friends and family also enjoy watching football.A specious stat, if it's even legit. Most of the female football 'fans' I know are casual observers at best. The NFL is obviously using breast cancer awareness to ingratiate itself to women in an attempt to monetize that goodwill. It ain't noble.Women make up 45 percent of the NFL’s fanbase. Anyway, there will always be some people who like to poop on something good. It's sad, but true.93_Confirmed said:The irony about breast cancer awareness month in the NFL is that the very large majority of viewers are men. Men die from male-specific cancers (testicular and prostate). Men are notoriously bad at keeping up with regular medical check-ups, are known to be stubborn about ignoring medical ailments, and do not talk to one another about these ailments.
So then, why in the world are we not using this golden opportunity to raise awareness about MENS health issues?
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure the NFL covets the non-football fans.
I'm pretty sure that in America most non-football fans aren't watching football games, and past a certain age probably never will. Large numbers of women are watching, however casually, and unlike non-football fans they represent potentially profitable eyeballs that can be more effectively monetized by converting them into the more rabid fans that the NFL truly covet. And, as previously mentioned, by making them generally more sympathetic to the NFL, thereby rendering them more conciliatory toward the men in their lives who already spend big on NFL products.
First of all, I totally agree with your use of specious. However, I think you are a little off on the NFL's intent here. I don't think it is about catering to women to trick them into allowing their husbands to spend more time watching football. My hypothesis is that they're targeting that casual female fan for merchandise, and secondarily the impressionable hardcore male fan. They want the female to buy overpriced pink crap or to show enough interest that the husband will buy her a pink NFL jersey or something. I don't think the average NFL fan is that bright and a lot of them like to collect NFL paraphernalia. So the more varieties of the same crap, the more they can sell. A chick already has a green GB cap? Now there's a pink one. As for a secondary targeting of hardcore male fans, some guys think its cool for their significant other to wear stuff that supports their team so they'll start buying her pink stuff she might actually wear.
It's all a shameful ploy to push merchandise. It has nothing to do with breast cancer, which is why I think a lot of people are annoyed with the pink everywhere. If anyone thought the intentions were genuine, I don't think they'd have any problem with it at all. There are plenty of other worthwhile cancer awareness options they would champion if they cared, but this is the only one that can be monetized. They also pretty shamefully piggyback onto the army/patriotic angle as badly as Bruce Springsteen. I love watching the games, but the NFL as an organization is pretty damn despicable.
MattFancy
Footballguy
My wife watches football with me just about every Sunday and has a few Redskins shirts/jerseys. Not one of them is pink. Why? "That isn't the team's color".
