Player Spotlight: Brett Favre (1 Viewer)

[Traders2001]

The Favre playing in a dome discussion is missing a point. He's never had the crowd on his side before in a dome.If anything it will help him as he is not the same player in the cold/rain as he was early in his career.If/when he signs with Minnesota he inherits a nice schedule, decent WRs , an awesome O-line and a very solid runnig game. I doubt he finishes outside of the top 10 in FPPG.

You had me until that comment - decent WRs. They barely have a #2 WR, nevermind a #1 quality. And after that? bleech25td, 16 int, but AP sets the alltime rushing record in every category.

The problem with the Vikes were not the WR , they just had no QB to get them the ball since Daunte .

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Jason, in the interest of being fair and balanced, could you please start a Player Spotlight: Sage Rosenfels, QB Vikings (For Argument's Sake)?It would be really unfortunate, and kind of a traveshamockery to the Game, to have to go through what we're going to have to go through, if events transpire the way I imagine them doing...Everything written below is just complete and total speculation on my part. I'm not out to offend any Vikings Fans, and I'm not trying to be an ###. I'm just absolutely perplexed how a Team THIS (solid O-Line, Running Game, D and Specials) close to the fleeting greatness that is a Super Bowl Championship, which requires complete and total focus and dedication from every facet of the Organization, would invite this chaotic circus upon themselves? It absolutely baffles me. Especially when there's a QB on the Roster who's perfectly capable of taking this Team where it has the potential to go, with less chance to implode, and without all the drama.So, here's how I imagine it will all go down:Favre signs with the Vikings, and is immediately anointed the Starting QB, without even one practice under his belt.There's no structured QB Competition in Training Camp between Favre and Rosenfels, and no matter how good Rosenfels looks, nothing changes on the Depth Chart, due to nothing but politics. Sage loses valuable reps with the 1st Team.Favre looks serviceable in the PreSeason, just enough so that the Vikings can keep him as the named Starter, and avoid the unpleasant fallout that would accompany his being demoted even though he only looks...serviceable; Sage loses more valuable reps as the Team attempts to showcase TJax vs 2nd Stringers to raise his trade value.The Regular Season begins, and the Games count. Minnesota has a Week 9 Bye, so half their Season will be over before they have time to sit back, take stock of where they find themselves, and make a necessary adjustment.Here's a look at their 1st 8 Games, and some possible circumstances for Favre Failure:Week 1: At Browns - Home Opener for Mangini's 2nd Chance - think he'd like to embarrass Favre? Week 2: At Lions - Away, Dome, Divisional Foe that's hated Favre AND the Vikes forever, with a D-Minded Coach. Trap.Week 3: Vikes Home Opener vs Samurai Mike's psycho 49ers - Singletary still a Bear,has deep-seated hate for GB & MIN.Week 4: Packers - Waterloo? No Opponent will be more Anti-Favre agenda-driven and intent on embarrassing. Bounties?Week 5: at Rams - Away, Dome. Not a good recipe for Favre. Not to mention short week, and coming off GB Hysteria. Trap.Week 6: Ravens - See what Ray Lewis did to Mendenhall last year? When it's statement time, he's K-I-N-G King. Beatings.Week 7: at Steelers - Ravens and Steelers back to back? Only the Bengals and Browns get punished like that. Grimace.Week 8: at Packers - Geez, who designed this Schedule? Seen how the movie 'Glory' ends?***Seriously, that 3-Game stretch is pretty unkind to the Vikings. I wonder of McCombs pissed someone off?Week 9: Bye...and with both GB games out of the way, a perfect time to switch QB's and salvage what's left of the Season behind the guy who should have been the Starting QB all along: Sage Rosenfels......as a 'skins Fan, I empathize - I think I've felt the frustration you're going to face, in terms of an Organization making poor choices when it should have just left well enough alone.It's not going to be easy.Stay strong.

So far this looks pretty good. Signs and immeditately is taking reps, starting this week, no competition and will start the season.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

When a player has 20 threads devoted to him does he really need a spotlight?

 

[fatness]

Jason, in the interest of being fair and balanced, could you please start a Player Spotlight: Sage Rosenfels, QB Vikings (For Argument's Sake)?It would be really unfortunate, and kind of a traveshamockery to the Game, to have to go through what we're going to have to go through, if events transpire the way I imagine them doing...Everything written below is just complete and total speculation on my part. I'm not out to offend any Vikings Fans, and I'm not trying to be an ###. I'm just absolutely perplexed how a Team THIS (solid O-Line, Running Game, D and Specials) close to the fleeting greatness that is a Super Bowl Championship, which requires complete and total focus and dedication from every facet of the Organization, would invite this chaotic circus upon themselves? It absolutely baffles me. Especially when there's a QB on the Roster who's perfectly capable of taking this Team where it has the potential to go, with less chance to implode, and without all the drama.So, here's how I imagine it will all go down:Favre signs with the Vikings, and is immediately anointed the Starting QB, without even one practice under his belt.There's no structured QB Competition in Training Camp between Favre and Rosenfels, and no matter how good Rosenfels looks, nothing changes on the Depth Chart, due to nothing but politics. Sage loses valuable reps with the 1st Team.Favre looks serviceable in the PreSeason, just enough so that the Vikings can keep him as the named Starter, and avoid the unpleasant fallout that would accompany his being demoted even though he only looks...serviceable; Sage loses more valuable reps as the Team attempts to showcase TJax vs 2nd Stringers to raise his trade value.The Regular Season begins, and the Games count. Minnesota has a Week 9 Bye, so half their Season will be over before they have time to sit back, take stock of where they find themselves, and make a necessary adjustment.Here's a look at their 1st 8 Games, and some possible circumstances for Favre Failure:Week 1: At Browns - Home Opener for Mangini's 2nd Chance - think he'd like to embarrass Favre? Week 2: At Lions - Away, Dome, Divisional Foe that's hated Favre AND the Vikes forever, with a D-Minded Coach. Trap.Week 3: Vikes Home Opener vs Samurai Mike's psycho 49ers - Singletary still a Bear,has deep-seated hate for GB & MIN.Week 4: Packers - Waterloo? No Opponent will be more Anti-Favre agenda-driven and intent on embarrassing. Bounties?Week 5: at Rams - Away, Dome. Not a good recipe for Favre. Not to mention short week, and coming off GB Hysteria. Trap.Week 6: Ravens - See what Ray Lewis did to Mendenhall last year? When it's statement time, he's K-I-N-G King. Beatings.Week 7: at Steelers - Ravens and Steelers back to back? Only the Bengals and Browns get punished like that. Grimace.Week 8: at Packers - Geez, who designed this Schedule? Seen how the movie 'Glory' ends?***Seriously, that 3-Game stretch is pretty unkind to the Vikings. I wonder of McCombs pissed someone off?Week 9: Bye...and with both GB games out of the way, a perfect time to switch QB's and salvage what's left of the Season behind the guy who should have been the Starting QB all along: Sage Rosenfels......as a 'skins Fan, I empathize - I think I've felt the frustration you're going to face, in terms of an Organization making poor choices when it should have just left well enough alone.It's not going to be easy.Stay strong.

So far this looks pretty good. Signs and immeditately is taking reps, starting this week, no competition and will start the season.

I was noticing that too. Pretty detailed and on the money so far.

 

[two_dollars]

Think Joe Montana numbers in 1994 with the Chiefs. He should have stayed retired.

 

[apalmer]

Interesting tweaks from Dodds: Favre +212.7; Sage -201.8; Jackson -20.7. Vikings net= -9.8

 

[smackdaddies]

Vikings schedule is easy - as a Packer fan, I can say they only have two really tough games (Ravens/Steelers)

v. the Pack - should be good games, it will come down to the new Pack D - if it's working the Pack can win, if it's like last year (in terms of performance) the pack at best split, possibly lose both

The rest of the games? Easy wins. They should be no worse than 4-4, odds probably say 5-3, and it's far more likely they would be 6-2 than 4-4. However 7-1 or 8-0 is not likely at all. But who cares? 5-3 or 6-2 still has them win the division.

Still stand by my earlier statement - AP shatters all records, Farve has a good year (top 10 in stats). Minnie still has no great receivers. You could argue they have the #1 and #3 RB in the division. But their best WR would be fighting it out for the #3/4 slot on the Packers. Might even end up at the #5 slot.

 

[caglassc]

I think Favre will have a solid year for several reasons.

1. Playbook! He will be running an offense that he is more familiar with than the one he ran in NY last year.

2. Motivation! Being able to play in the same division and against teams that defined your career has to be a motivator. Along with what Favre feels as a legitimate shot at winning a Superbowl.

3. Schedule. If you look at and put any faith in Clayton Gray's "Strength of Schedule" then it is apparent heading into the season that the Vikings have a fairly easy schedule that Favre and the Vikings should be able to take advantage of.

4. Adrian Peterson. In all the years that Favre has played, he has never had a talent on the offensive side of he ball that could match him. Peterson should make Favre a better QB.

5. Health. It would seem that Favre is healthier at this point and hopefully that remains the case.

480 Passing Attempts

317 Completions

3310 Passing Yards

24 TDs

19 INTs

 

[Banger]

Think Joe Montana numbers in 1994 with the Chiefs. He should have stayed retired.

so hopes the Bear fan...

 

[Jason Wood]

Think Joe Montana numbers in 1994 with the Chiefs. He should have stayed retired.

Montana led the Chiefs to the AFC Championship game in his first year in KC and then followed that up with a QB12 fantasy season and another playoff berth in the next season.There are a LOT of veteran players who had forgettable final seasons in new digs that would've served your argument well, Montana isn't one of them.

 

[Tau837]

I think the number of attempts people are projecting are too high. The RBs are too good not to get more carries.I will say 475 attempts, 3150 yards, 22 TDs and 16 INTs.

Though there were only two projections before yours. Last season, Minnesota attempted 452 passes, and the season before they attempted just 432. It is hard to say for certain how much of that had to do with the (lack of) quality of the passing game... so it's hard to say how much that number might increase with an upgraded passing game (Favre and Harvin). In Childress's first year, the Vikes passed 540 times, but (a) they didn't have AP, and (b) they had their worst record of his tenure (6-10).475 attempts seems reasonable.

Well, I definitely didn't see 531 attempts coming, nor the accompanying great performance.

 

[Tau837]

I wish we had a stat for his record indoors vs. outdoors, I don't think he does nearly as well while playing in a dome.

This is incorrect. Check his QB ratings indoors vs. outdoors this decade (from ESPN, presumably only including regular season games):2008: no games indoors2007: 108.0 indoors, 92.2 outdoors2006: 112.5 indoors, 66.9 outdoors2005: 83.6 indoors, 67.8 outdoors2004: 102.7 indoors, 87.5 outdoors2003: 92.2 indoors, 89.9 outdoors2002: 84.9 indoors, 85.8 outdoors2001: 99.1 indoors, 93.4 outdoors2000: 91.7 indoors, 75.8 outdoorsOnly once this decade did Favre have a better rating outdoors (2002), and that was by a very small margin. Particularly in the past 5 years, he has performed much better indoors than outdoors.Now, he has a much smaller sample size indoors, and it's true that the majority of those games were against Detroit and Minnesota, which did not have strong defenses for most of that time. Nevertheless, there is no evidence that supports your claim that he has performed worse indoors unless you go back to the 1990s... and that wouldn't seem to be particularly relevant. If anything, the available evidence shows the opposite of your claim.

This year: 112.5 QB rating indoors, 95.8 QB rating outdoors. Amazing season.