Player Spotlight: Calvin Johnson (1 Viewer)

[ceo3west]

I have to ask. Hornet. Where does Calvin fall on your draft board? He's truly 1 on mine, but In my head I treat him as WR4 as thats where it seems I can get him in the mocks I run (though I have him as a keeper in a league already at 4th value)

Dude, I just watched that video and the dude is amazing. Sky is the limit. I got him high. Top 3 in dynasty, no question. In redarft, I just would have a hard time buying him so early. I think Top 5 numbers are attainable, but there is a part of me that wouldnt be at all shocked if he finished outside of the TOP 10 for WR. The lions are that bad and starting with a Rookie QB.I'm really not trying to stir the pot. I like calvin as much as the next, but i try to be realistic and if that includes being too conservative, then so be it.

I applaud you for being willing to step back from the number crunching and just ciew the raw talent he displays. I am a lions homer, but this isn't homerism. This is a receiver that you create in Madden Superstar mode. He went to GA tech (smart) he's 6'5. he's cut, He's fast, and His hands are sick. And he prolly rivals fitz for the best fade route in the game right now.I agree. But that's why we research. But when people talk about "the numbers lying" (especially with a guy who had a 96 yard td, and multiple 3-4 catches 100+ yards games, this doesn;t seem to be that case. Dbs didnt fall, or slip, they were BEAT. And the margins by which he was OPEN when 2x covered tells me that if the lions QB play even marginally improves (while I see a more drastic improvement-- i like the schwartz regime and liken it to mike smiths regime and the effect that a SOLID coach/coaching staff can have on an organiztion. Plus Culpepper knows how to throw the fade, and the deep ball, and thas all CJ needs) Safetys didn't miss tackles, or even take bad angles, he just is faster and bigger than anyone out there. It is truly a men among boys situation.

Great post. Some people just don't understand pedigree. They see a second year wr who blew up last year and is bound to take a step back from those gaudy numbers just because.

 

[Steelfan7]

You're worried about CJ hitting double digits TDs, but yet want to draft Steve Smith and AJ ahead of him?

Yes. As well as Jennings, Boldin, White, and others. I think they're much safer picks to get receptions, yards, and td's.

Smith has hit double digits Tds only once and AJ has never done it, but they are safer picks? Not to mention both players and Boldin's history with injuries. OK

I think I read that Steve Smith has the NFL record for avereage receiving yards per game, or something like that. His yardage is very consistent, moreso then almost anyone to play the game.

Not counting Smith's rookie year he avg 79/game. Not counting CJ's rookie year he avg 83/game. Obviously Smith has done it over a longer period, but he has also proven to get injured and suspended. I just don't see where these guys are safer picks than CJ.

 

[thehornet]

Matt Berry? Seriously? I'm not even the type to bash the internet fantasy analyst and gurus, but this guy 100%, without a question in my mind steals all of his information and stats from the internet. It is absolutely mind blowing that this guy has a job, let alone the largest sports network on the planet, ESPN. This blowhard makes thousands of wild guesses annunally and totes out the old"you should have listened to me" when his crap mistakenly hits the wall. Damn, whoever just brought that fool's name up in this thread, just ruined my day. And it's friday. I hate you.

I'm not a big fan either, but these are facts that he brought up, not opinions. Ignore them at your own risk.

LOL, I was actually in the middle of updating my rant when you wrote this. Seriously, what do any of those things have to do with CJ aside from the stuff driectly relating to him? Dont look. I'll tell you.



NOTHING.

 

[footballnerd]

Jerry Rice's, oops Randy Moss' single season TD record.

Both of those players played on very good teams/offenses. While Johnson should score a good chunk of DET's TDs, lack of opportunity won't allow him to approach those numbers at this point, imo.

Don't forget being behind means you pass a lot, and Johnson does not get deducted for passing mistakes. He just gets back on the field after the opponent runs through the Lion's D again and pads his stats some more.

 

[puckalicious]

With the improvement in QB play by Culpepper (and Stafford since he won't be playing unless he's at least as good), I fully expect Calvin's catch% and receptions to go up from last season.

He only caught 78 balls last year at a 52% rate last year and I'd say both are more a product of the QB and pass quality than Calvin's ability. Even with a drop in his insane yd/catch of 17 he should pretty easily match his totals from last year. I honestly can't think of any reason he won't match last year's totals barring injury.