Player Spotlight: Koren Robinson (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2006 Player Spotlight Series

Over the course of the offseason, we will be evaluating a multitude of players at every fantasy position. One such way we go about that is through the Player Spotlight series. Think of the Spotlights as a permanent record on some of the more intriguing players for the upcoming season. Each Spotlight will be featured in an article on the main website.

Thread Topic: Koren Robinson, WR, Minnesota Vikings

Player Page Link: Koren Robinson Player Page

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[Garts]

83 catches

1146 yds

7 tds

 

[Phlash]

75 catches, 1050 yards, 10 TDs

 

[gang-wars]

83 catches

1146 yds

7 tds

5 starts last year, for 13 catches? BJ is still the QB. Still have Taylor, Williamson, Robinson.

Is K-rob even starting? Who knows how camp goes. People are projecting him to be top 10 in the league in catches? Top 10 WR?

Easy up on the .

 

[gang-wars]

75 catches, 1050 yards, 10 TDs

You seriously project him as a top 10 WR?Over Driver, Wayne, ROY, AJ, Plax, Ward, D-JAX, Walker, Mason?

Seriously?

I have him for 40 catches, 550 yards, 4 TDs.

Tremblay has him down for 33, 466 and 2 TDs. And both of you guys have him in the top 10 WRs? Yikes.

 

[David Yudkin]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 22 receptions is the fewest amount ever for a non-rookie to earn a Player Spotlight since we've been doing this (without a major injury involved).

To that end, I am astounded by some of the projections here. K-Rob had one good game last year and the rest were not even ho hum.

Sure, the Vikes have talked him up as a true WR1, but given the receiving options in Minnesota, I am not so sure he is a FANTASY #1--not even close. Other targets will include Wiggins, Taylor, Robinson, Williamson, Moore, and Taylor. I don't see anyone of those guys as the clear go to guy, and I don't see K-Rob. Barely Top 40.

I projected him higher earlier in the preseason, but I don't think he will be a go to type receciver.

45-720-5

 

[jurb26]

WTF is going on here? Are we doing a flash back to 2002 or something? These KRob numbers are way high IMO. It's time for Williamson and Taylor to step up and I'm of the opinion that KRob is a nice WR3 for the Vikes. Even if he is a starter, I don't see great numbers.

40 rec, 700 yds, 4 TDs

 

[hawkeyemba]

You have arguably the top receiver out of a four receiver set with K-Rob/Williamson/Taylor/M-Rob on one of the least projectable offensive teams in the NFL this year? Brad Johnson who is one injury away from retirement and a questionable running back rotation at best in Chester Taylor and Mewelde Moore? Stack that on top of a receiver who has never scored more than 5 TD's in a season and what do you have? Please tell me somebody's joking when they're talking about this guy as a #2 receiver!

K-Rob's only saving grace is playing against the Lions and Packers 4 times this year - otherwise, I think 40-600-4 is pushing it.

 

[jurb26]

45-720-5

40-600-4

OK, a sense of reason has come to this thread.

 

[tlovyankee]

He is projected to be the number one out there and someone has to catch the ball. He also looked like he has figured out that you can not survive on talent alone to get the job done in the NFL. If they can keep Brad upright he could put up decent numbers. I am not saying top 10 but he might be able to get top 20 to 25.

I can see him reaching these projections:

70

985

6

 

[{Syrus}]

K-Suck will drop more balls than he catches. That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.

 

[netnalp]

43/628/3 with 23 drops (with no coverage)

 

[Weiner Dog]

He is projected to be the number one out there and someone has to catch the ball. He also looked like he has figured out that you can not survive on talent alone to get the job done in the NFL. If they can keep Brad upright he could put up decent numbers. I am not saying top 10 but he might be able to get top 20 to 25.

I can see him reaching these projections:

70

985

6

My guestimate would be in this neighborhood.

 

[Cenobite]

He is projected to be the number one out there and someone has to catch the ball.

No, someFOUR can ctach the ball - Taylor, MRob, TW, and Wiggins and that doesn't include the RBs. I think he will rebound and project 45/800/5.

 

[Byron_nyc]

Koren Robinson has the skills and body to be an elite WR. What has held him back is his alchohol dependency, which by all accounts he's well and truly kicked. Here you have an matured athlete, savoring his second chance to get it right, with elite natural ability, on a team that is one year removed from being considered a SB-class offense, with a wide open #1 WR position, in a weak division, in a WR-friendly dome, Salivate accordingly. He could be -- again -- a total and utter bust, but, IMO no player in FF has bigger upside that K-Rob, that is, has the reasonable chance to most outperform his draft position. He could go very, very late and wind up in the top-fifteen, even ten, WRs. Or he could be out of organized football at the end of the year. But this is a game of betting, isn't it?

My conservative projection, because this guy is a risk.

60 700 4

But its possible it could look like:

90 1150 11

I think you don't win this game if you don't take some chances.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

Repeat.

Koren will end up around 55/800/5. And be the top WR in MN.

Think a poor man's Eddie Kennison.

*The sleeper in this offense is Jermaine Wiggins.

 

[zamboni]

I'm a bit more optimistic than others, but still relatively modest expectations:

65-800-6

As a savvy QB, Brad Johnson often spreads the ball around, and I think he'll continue to do with Robinson, Taylor, Williamson and Wiggins. Plus Taylor and Moore can catch out of the backfield.

 

[the branded hand]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 22 receptions is the fewest amount ever for a non-rookie to earn a Player Spotlight since we've been doing this (without a major injury involved).

To that end, I am astounded by some of the projections here. K-Rob had one good game last year and the rest were not even ho hum.

Sure, the Vikes have talked him up as a true WR1, but given the receiving options in Minnesota, I am not so sure he is a FANTASY #1--not even close. Other targets will include Wiggins, Taylor, Robinson, Williamson, Moore, and Taylor. I don't see anyone of those guys as the clear go to guy, and I don't see K-Rob. Barely Top 40.

I projected him higher earlier in the preseason, but I don't think he will be a go to type receciver.

45-720-5

Irony? SEA gets a "WR 1" from MIN that's better at the WR 2 spot than "WR 2" SEA traded who's being touted as Min's WR 1... David's right, the "mossy" shadow in MIN MIGHT put up great numbers, but I'm not willing to underestimate so many other skill players to think he's the MAN just yet.

50-770-4

 

[chocolate bomber]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

Chiefs, maybe. Eagles haven't run that much in Reid's tenure.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

87 receptions, 1200 yards, 8 TDs

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

Also underestimating the the Chiefs history of passing the game... just a bit...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

Also underestimating the the Chiefs history of passing the game... just a bit...

Yes. I exaggerated for effect.The point I was trying to make is that the WR1 is the third option in the passing game.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I think there is about a 20% chance he get suspended for failing another drug test. Seems everyone is convinced he's a saint now after having half a season of no trouble.

40-560-3

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 22 receptions is the fewest amount ever for a non-rookie to earn a Player Spotlight since we've been doing this (without a major injury involved).

To that end, I am astounded by some of the projections here. K-Rob had one good game last year and the rest were not even ho hum.

Sure, the Vikes have talked him up as a true WR1, but given the receiving options in Minnesota, I am not so sure he is a FANTASY #1--not even close. Other targets will include Wiggins, Taylor, Robinson, Williamson, Moore, and Taylor. I don't see anyone of those guys as the clear go to guy, and I don't see K-Rob. Barely Top 40.

I projected him higher earlier in the preseason, but I don't think he will be a go to type receciver.

45-720-5

As the guy who schedules the Spotlights, Yudkin has a point about K-Rob being a bit different than a normal spotlight. Ultimately I view him as a starter there for two reasons: 1) They lost Burleson, and 2) They made a concerted effor to keep K-Rob. However, certainly it's possible he could be relegated to backup duties; nothing is set in stone with a new offense and coaching staff in place. Personally I think the hiring of Childress and Bevell works in his favor. K-Rob was at his best (pre substance abuse) in Seattle running a WCO not dissimilar to what Childress and Bevell are schooled in.

 

[Assani Fisher]

The amount of K-Rob hate astounds me. He is a #1 WR and has performed well in the past. He is over his problems.

80 catches

1300 yards

12 TDs

 

[Blackjacks]

The amount of K-Rob hate astounds me. He is a #1 WR and has performed well in the past. He is over his problems.

80 catches

1300 yards

12 TDs

Even as a dynasty owner of K-Rob I think that is a crazy statement.I do think he has upside but in a limited offense I'm thinking a good year would be 1100 yards and 5 td's.

I would definetly be happy with those #'s.

 

[Sopranos]

700-5td's.. Good #'s for a guy that cant catch..

 

[mlball77]

700-5td's.. Good #'s for a guy that cant catch..

...sounds about right to me though.

 

[hollaatyaboy]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

Also underestimating the the Chiefs history of passing the game... just a bit...

Yes. I exaggerated for effect.The point I was trying to make is that the WR1 is the third option in the passing game.

While its true that the eagles RBs and TEs had lots of rec. yards relative to the WR, thats where the talent was. Throwing to Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell would really want any QB to throw to other options. Minnesota is different. Having 3 top 10 draft WRs you're going to play the game differently. KRob is better than any reciever the Eagles have had with childress (minus TO).

And KC? They have had 1 good reciever in Kennison who has had 2 1000+ seasons and 4 over 900. I don't get it.

Don't compare these teams.

When you have talent in the WR position, you throw to it. KRob has turned his life around, is saying all the right things this season and is the declared #1. They're also taking him away from punt returning albeit he's one of the best in the league. Brad Johnson is more than servicable and had a great end to last year while having little experience with the team. He's going to have a good year and go up from there.

70/900/6

(williamson to follow next, and TT and MR will have <700 yards combined

 

[mightyeskimo]

I think it's absurd to speculate KROB is over his addictions. Who's trailing him on his day to day activities? Who's watching his house and going through his cupboards for bottles? How in the world can you simply say "He's over his problems". We said that about Ricky too. I think there's about a 30% chance he cracks 1000 yards. Williamson will be much more involved and with that line, they will feature Chester Taylor a lot.

 

[NoCheese]

63 catches, 1004 yards, 6 TD's

 

[PhilyFn]

Andy is dead on. True on the comparisons to the other Eagle receivers but, your looking at it the wrong way. They never had a true 1, but Minnesota has a bunch of 2's. It will be spread around, there will be no true 1.

60 catches

870 yards

7 TD's

3 rushes

19 yards

0 TD's

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

Also underestimating the the Chiefs history of passing the game... just a bit...

Yes. I exaggerated for effect.The point I was trying to make is that the WR1 is the third option in the passing game.

While its true that the eagles RBs and TEs had lots of rec. yards relative to the WR, thats where the talent was. Throwing to Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell would really want any QB to throw to other options. Minnesota is different. Having 3 top 10 draft WRs you're going to play the game differently. KRob is better than any reciever the Eagles have had with childress (minus TO).

And KC? They have had 1 good reciever in Kennison who has had 2 1000+ seasons and 4 over 900. I don't get it.

Don't compare these teams.

When you have talent in the WR position, you throw to it. KRob has turned his life around, is saying all the right things this season and is the declared #1. They're also taking him away from punt returning albeit he's one of the best in the league. Brad Johnson is more than servicable and had a great end to last year while having little experience with the team. He's going to have a good year and go up from there.

70/900/6

(williamson to follow next, and TT and MR will have <700 yards combined

You go through all that just to project 100 more yards and 1 more TD than I did?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Andy is dead on. True on the comparisons to the other Eagle receivers but, your looking at it the wrong way. They never had a true 1, but Minnesota has a bunch of 2's. It will be spread around, there will be no true 1.

 

[Blackjacks]

I think it's absurd to speculate KROB is over his addictions. Who's trailing him on his day to day activities? Who's watching his house and going through his cupboards for bottles? How in the world can you simply say "He's over his problems". We said that about Ricky too. I think there's about a 30% chance he cracks 1000 yards. Williamson will be much more involved and with that line, they will feature Chester Taylor a lot.

I can agree with this. We have to remember when this guy went to jail to do his sentence for drinking......HE WAS DRUNK. I know that was over a year ago and you can get away from being dependeant on drinking but the stupitidy (sp) will always be there.

 

[doomsdaydoc]

while Koren is talented, he is a head case. Brad Johnson does not have the arm to get it to receivers downfield. If Koren were the #1 receiver and played on the Colts- and he had his head on straight, I think he could be a 100 catch, 1400 yard, 12 TD receiver. Since he does not always have his head on straight and he plays with Brad Johnson, I would expect 60 catches, 750- 850 yards, and 5-6 TDs

 

[Kleck]

Question for the masses. Have you ever seen Koren Robinson make a great and memorable grab? Even just one? I watched him for years in Seattle and can't recall even one catch that sticks out in my memory.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Question for the masses. Have you ever seen Koren Robinson make a great and memorable grab? Even just one? I watched him for years in Seattle and can't recall even one catch that sticks out in my memory.

I don't agree with that. I've seen him make some pretty spectacular catches. His problem is that he can't make the easy catches.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

One thing people need to remember is that the Vikings are changing their offensive scheme. It will be about short patterns that take advantage of the running after the catch ability of the WRs. I think that bodes well for Robinson (as well as Williamson). If they can get the ball in the open field (and Johnson doesn't have to throw it deep), that will allow for game breaking type plays from Robinson, much like he did on special teams last year.

Nothing great, but not terrible:

63/912/6

 

[Sinrman]

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235239

So a guy, who was in a more favorable offense in Seattle, is being predicted to be a top 10 WR this year? A guy, who has had ONE season of 1000+ yards? A guy, who has never scored more than 5 TDs in a season? A guy, who is notorious for dropping balls? A guy, who is playing on an offense with no identity?

Are we talking the same Koren Robinson?!

42 catches

713 yards

4 TDs

I've been wrong before, but man some of these predictions are a bit

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I am delighted that the "masses" are projecting mediocrity for K-Rob in 2006.

Granted he must be watched carefully between now and ~ mid-August (fantasy draft season) for adverse developments. However, absent a relapse of adverse circumstance, I will merrily be rostering K-Rob in all my leagues, similarly pervaded by like-minded thinkers as those herein.

In this Age of Info Technology, it is increasingly difficult to land "sleepers" that have not be awaken come draft day.

 

[hollaatyaboy]

Question for the masses. Have you ever seen Koren Robinson make a great and memorable grab? Even just one? I watched him for years in Seattle and can't recall even one catch that sticks out in my memory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JLcxJjkr_s...oren%20robinsonsticks out pretty well for me

 

[hollaatyaboy]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

Also underestimating the the Chiefs history of passing the game... just a bit...

Yes. I exaggerated for effect.The point I was trying to make is that the WR1 is the third option in the passing game.

While its true that the eagles RBs and TEs had lots of rec. yards relative to the WR, thats where the talent was. Throwing to Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell would really want any QB to throw to other options. Minnesota is different. Having 3 top 10 draft WRs you're going to play the game differently. KRob is better than any reciever the Eagles have had with childress (minus TO).

And KC? They have had 1 good reciever in Kennison who has had 2 1000+ seasons and 4 over 900. I don't get it.

Don't compare these teams.

When you have talent in the WR position, you throw to it. KRob has turned his life around, is saying all the right things this season and is the declared #1. They're also taking him away from punt returning albeit he's one of the best in the league. Brad Johnson is more than servicable and had a great end to last year while having little experience with the team. He's going to have a good year and go up from there.

70/900/6

(williamson to follow next, and TT and MR will have <700 yards combined

You go through all that just to project 100 more yards and 1 more TD than I did?

Ooops. yes I did; thats what I project. Thats a solid season -- better than ANYTHING an Eagles WR did before TO with Mcnabb on board. Plus, I guess I forgot to mention he has tremendous upside. Especially for where he's being taken.

 

[PhilyFn]

This offense will resemble a TO-less Eagles or Cheifs offense.

Run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, run, run, run, throw to the TE*, run, run, run, throw to the TE, throw to the WR.

I think you might be overestimating the Eagles history of running the ball... just a bit...

[post=5027433][/post]

Also underestimating the the Chiefs history of passing the game... just a bit...[post=5027447][/post]

Yes. I exaggerated for effect.The point I was trying to make is that the WR1 is the third option in the passing game.

[post=5027491][/post]

While its true that the eagles RBs and TEs had lots of rec. yards relative to the WR, thats where the talent was. Throwing to Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell would really want any QB to throw to other options. Minnesota is different. Having 3 top 10 draft WRs you're going to play the game differently. KRob is better than any reciever the Eagles have had with childress (minus TO).

And KC? They have had 1 good reciever in Kennison who has had 2 1000+ seasons and 4 over 900. I don't get it.

Don't compare these teams.

When you have talent in the WR position, you throw to it. KRob has turned his life around, is saying all the right things this season and is the declared #1. They're also taking him away from punt returning albeit he's one of the best in the league. Brad Johnson is more than servicable and had a great end to last year while having little experience with the team. He's going to have a good year and go up from there.

70/900/6

(williamson to follow next, and TT and MR will have <700 yards combined

[post=5032679][/post]

You go through all that just to project 100 more yards and 1 more TD than I did?[post=5032934][/post]

Ooops. yes I did; thats what I project. Thats a solid season -- better than ANYTHING an Eagles WR did before TO with Mcnabb on board. Plus, I guess I forgot to mention he has tremendous upside. Especially for where he's being taken.

[post=5038686][/post]

I would argue with that statement, better check your Dominator...Name Pos Year Rec Yards Avg TD Points

James Thrash wr 2001 63 833 13.22 8 137.00

 

[Sigfawn]

75 catches, 1050 yards, 10 TDs

So much for K-ROB being a top 10 WR. Unless TD stands for Tangerine Dream, then yes I can see him getting 10 of those.