Player Spotlight: Rex Grossman (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2008 Player Spotlight Series

One of Footballguys best assets is our message board community. The Shark Pool is, in our view, the best place on the internet to discuss, debate and analyze all things fantasy football. In what's become an annual tradition, the Player Spotlight series is a key part of the preseason efforts. As many of you know, we consider the Player Spotlight threads the permanent record for analyzing the fantasy prospects of the player in question. Last year, we published more than 140 offensive spotlights covering the vast majority of expected skill position starters. This year will be no different.

Each week we will post a list of players to be discussed. Those threads will remain open for the entire preseason, and should be a central point to discussion expectations for the player in question. Importantly, analysis done in the first week of posting will be part of the permanent record in two ways. 1) At the end of the week, we will tally the projections into a consensus. 2) We will select a number of pull quotes from forum contributors who make a compelling statement or observation. Both the projections and pull quotes will be part of a published article on the main website.

Thread Topic: Rex Grossman, QB, Chicago Bears

Player Page Link: Rex Grossman Player Page

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For QBs: Passing Yards, Passing TDs, Ints, Rush Yards, Rush TDs
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For WRs & TEs: Receptions, Receiving Yards, Receiving TDsNow let's get on with the conversation! We look forward to your contributions and let me offer a personal thanks in anticipation of the great debate and analysis.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another QB you should not make projections for. if he wins the job in camp, draft him late in redrafts and probably only as a QB3, or if you have a top5 QB already and would only need him for 1 bye week.

 

[RexGrossman Fan]

 

[bcr8f]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

He evokes epilepsy just by walking into a room, on his organ donor card it says no thanks, he is the most uninteresting QB in the world.

 

[Jason Wood]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

He evokes epilepsy just by walking into a room, on his organ donor card it says no thanks, he is the most uninteresting QB in the world.

Fair enough M.O.P., but you know we do Spotlights on all 32 projected starters. And while it mystifies me, the Bears seem resigned to letting him run this team yet again. And with the decision to trade Griese away, I really can't imagine this team being any better with Orton at the helm. So a little analysis beyond the "he's boring" might be helpful.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

He evokes epilepsy just by walking into a room, on his organ donor card it says no thanks, he is the most uninteresting QB in the world.

Fair enough M.O.P., but you know we do Spotlights on all 32 projected starters. And while it mystifies me, the Bears seem resigned to letting him run this team yet again. And with the decision to trade Griese away, I really can't imagine this team being any better with Orton at the helm. So a little analysis beyond the "he's boring" might be helpful.

Mr Wood,My deepest apologies...I should have left it alone in the 1st post. I really think there are players that simply do not need projections, and you know I tend to shy away from them anyways as they lead people down a very fine line. So a guy like Grossman to me is a guy you need to think about as a very late pick, and someone that you only draft as a QB3, or as someone to have after a Tom Brady as your QB1...you start Brady every week and hope Grossman can have 200 yds and 1-2 TD the week you need him.

He has hardly any weapons at WR...Berrian helped him along when he tossed 20 in 2006...I would be interested to see what people would project for him.

Booker, Bradley, Bennett, and Hester are not very inspiring.

The other factor is he rarely makes it thru a season without injury.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Rex Grossman is a below average quarterback who lost his two best receivers in Bernard Berrian and Muhsin Muhammad only to have them replaced by Brandon Lloyd and Marty Booker. He still has some good tight ends in Desmond Clark and Greg Olson to throw to but other than that not much to be excited about. He is who he is so it's not like there's any upside to look forward with him. Maybe in a 24 team league he's startable and I'm not even sure about that. In most leagues though he's just about undraftable.

2800/12TD/15INT

 

[MTskibum]

I just drafted Rex as my 5th QB in the 26th round of a very deep team defense new dynasty. He was the last starting QB left(if he can stay that way come camp time).

I seem to have more optimism than most about him, because he did lead the league in 100+ QB rating games 2 years ago. He has shown flashes of brilliance.

I think that there is a 1 in 10 shot that rex can actually develop, but most likely he will be terrible.

 

[bcr8f]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

He evokes epilepsy just by walking into a room, on his organ donor card it says no thanks, he is the most uninteresting QB in the world.

Fair enough M.O.P., but you know we do Spotlights on all 32 projected starters. And while it mystifies me, the Bears seem resigned to letting him run this team yet again. And with the decision to trade Griese away, I really can't imagine this team being any better with Orton at the helm. So a little analysis beyond the "he's boring" might be helpful.

So they are putting all their eggs in the Rex Grossman basket. As a Packer fan I have to like this ideology.

 

[Jason Wood]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

He evokes epilepsy just by walking into a room, on his organ donor card it says no thanks, he is the most uninteresting QB in the world.

Fair enough M.O.P., but you know we do Spotlights on all 32 projected starters. And while it mystifies me, the Bears seem resigned to letting him run this team yet again. And with the decision to trade Griese away, I really can't imagine this team being any better with Orton at the helm. So a little analysis beyond the "he's boring" might be helpful.

So they are putting all their eggs in the Rex Grossman basket. As a Packer fan I have to like this ideology.

Packers lost Brett Favre this offseason and STILL have the best QB in the division.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Rex Grossman will probably win the job and be in a lot of passing opportunities. Off-season changes have created a diverse set of WRs, a couple of new offensive linemen, and running game. Week 5, 6 and 9 seem the lowest risk starts for INTs against Detroit and Atlanta. When most of the starting QBs are off the board, Rex Grossman could make a good backup to Ben Roethlisberger for Pittsburgh's bye week.

Passing Yards 3500, Passing TDs 22, Ints 17, Rush Yards 50, Rush TDs 0

 

[Jon_Moore]

Another QB you should not make projections for. if he wins the job in camp, draft him late in redrafts and probably only as a QB3, or if you have a top5 QB already and would only need him for 1 bye week.

I usually disagree with such a notion, as there is "always" a point when anyone becomes value...but I really believe Grossman is the exception. As said here, he's probably your QB3 if you get him...You'd be just as well not drafting him at all, waiting for the starter and backup somewhere else to go down, and using that 3rd stringer to fill the void if it comes to that.There's the really bad play the last couple of years. The fact that he might not even start at the beginning of the season...the fact he might not be starting mid way through the season, no receivers, nothing really proven in the running game...for this case, I think you're just best off to stay away.If he plays all 16 games265/5003100 yards16 tds18 ints4 lost fumbles40 rushes65 yardsI think he'll be in a spot where he has to try to scramble a bit more this year...I know 40 is above his normal.

 

[sholditch]

I'll be kind:

2200 yards, 12 TDs, 17 ints, 8 fumbles lost

 

[T Bell]

Assuming 16 starts:

2800/14/19

Hilarity ensues.

 

[valence]

He may not beat out Kyle Orton.

He evokes epilepsy just by walking into a room, on his organ donor card it says no thanks, he is the most uninteresting QB in the world.

Fair enough M.O.P., but you know we do Spotlights on all 32 projected starters. And while it mystifies me, the Bears seem resigned to letting him run this team yet again. And with the decision to trade Griese away, I really can't imagine this team being any better with Orton at the helm. So a little analysis beyond the "he's boring" might be helpful.

So they are putting all their eggs in the Rex Grossman basket. As a Packer fan I have to like this ideology.

Packers lost Brett Favre this offseason and STILL have the best QB in the division.

I've been saying this for a long while now.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I've seen enough of Rex Grossman, he isn't going to mature into good QB. Fortunately for him, there just isn't a lot of quarterbacks out there who can step in and take his position. If you're looking at the glass half full, he is still pretty young and he's led the Bears to the Super Bowl in the past. To make the playoffs, they don't need him to win games, they just need him to not lose them. With that said, I just don't think he can do that. I don't think he starts all season long and his fantasy numbers will reflect that:

1400 yards passing 6 Td's and 8 INt's

 

[Chase Stuart]

Little to like here, but:

Grossman did have a tougher than average schedule last year.

His rate numbers are actually better than Eli Manning's or Marc Bulger's.

He was better than Kyle Orton.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

He was better than Kyle Orton.

That's like saying syphilis is better than gonorrhea.I can't see Rexxy doing much more than maybe 15 TDs if he plays all year. Probably 20 picks(or more). Yardage? I guess if he played all 16 he'd get at around 2,700-ish.Nothing to like here at all, in my mind. As mentioned, about the ONLY thing he brings of any value is that, if he's the starter at the beginning of the year, he's a guy who you can grab with one of your last picks, if you burnt an early one on Brady or Manning, with the intention of him only seeing your lineup one week. However, that's mitigated by the fact that he IS Rex Grossman....so he could be benched for "Saint Benedictus Neck Beard" at any moment. So now you're faced with taking BOTH Bears QBs to back up your Manning/Brady pick? Nobody wants to do that.Move along.

 

[Coach Pantusso]

Move along.

I would, but some guys (myself included) are in a 2-QB start league...so separating TEdwards from RGrossman may be the difference in winning or losing a couple of weeks.No reason to type a lot about the guy, but I think your passing yardage is a bit low if he plays 16 games (although, we don't expect him to)...you have to figure they will be down and throwing at the end of games forcing them to go to the air. Even if the offense is worse than last season (say 920 plays) and they throw a percentile less than in 2007 (57%) and RGrossman averages a meager 6.2 per attempt with 56% completed...well, you are looking at 3200+ yards. Nothing to jump and over down about...but 500 yards better than 2700.Of course, he will throw so few TDs and too many INTs.So, yeah...I wish I could move along, he won't be of any help.296/504-3299-14-19

 

[sholditch]

He was better than Kyle Orton.

That's like saying syphilis is better than gonorrhea.

well done sir. bravo.

 

[rzrback77]

The Bears sure have dropped off the cliff in the past two years. Hard to believe that Rex Grossman is still here and especially that he is likely to be their starting QB. Perception of the Bears passing game can't get much lower.

You have to either be in a 14-team league or in one that plays 2 QBs for him to help, but he is draftable there. The Bears passing offense has goen from 416 attempts in 05 to 512 in 06 and to 566 in 07. Their passing yardage has progressed from 2183 to 3413 and finally to 3689 in 07. Grossman's stats have only been decent in 06 when he played all 16 games and finished as QB 15, but even in that year he had three games with negative fantasy points and can anybody forget the Monday nighter in Arizona where the Cards "let em off the hook"?

They will likely trail in a lot of games and despite the lack of any name receivers will probably put up decent passing numbers. If Grossman stays healthy he'll produce out of necessity of the number of opportunities.

Grossman wins the starting job and doesn't get hurt. Not likely, but the basis of this projection.

Grossman 300 completions in 540 attempts 55.6% 3400 yards and 16 TDs with neglible rushing

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

I would put Kitna as the top qb in the division at the moment but anyway ....

I don't project him to play 16 games

1992 yards

11 TD

14 Picks

30 yards rushing

0 Rushing TD