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I have zero interest in buying that guy. I know he was expected to be an elite option this year, but he looks SOOOOO bad I see no reason whatsoever to expect a turnaround. If you have the space and get him for virtually nothing then go ahead. Otherwise I'd ignore him.
Ive owned Hamels and Im sick of him. So I agree with you lol.I just bought real low on Peavy (traded SDrew & GGonzalez for him)
The time to buy low on him may be over.
Nicely done.shadyridr said:
So I should trade him for Verlander?!
I'd take that and not think twice.
It might be too late now. I originally offered him Cano, Bucholz and a pick at the start of the season, he said no and asked for Sizemore and I balked. I'll try and revisit it once Cruz comes off the DL.
Didnt get the win, but 8 innings, 8 Ks, 1 earned run is pretty damn nice.
Lee has been on a slide for some time. And he's on an awful team. Quentin is still going to cost SOMETHING, and you're better off spending that something on another guy.Finless said:
Are you contradicting me?
Based on? He been on a slide for some time
He's averaged 29 HRs and 107 RBIs over the last 3 years. His career average is 30 HRs and 108 RBIs. He also spent a good chunk of 2008 on the DL. Where is this decline you speak of?I'll log off and listen
That's what I thought.Finless said:Based on? He been on a slide for some timeDr. Awesome said:
And now Finless is rubbing salt in the wound as El Caballo goes for a walk of 2 run HR
So surprise there. Just doing what he's done his whole career.
Based upon...declining numbers each of the past three years? You can take the average numbers to skew your argument. Last year was his lowest OPS since joining the Astros (and lowest since 2005). His homerun per at bat last year was the lowest since his second year in the league.If they're on the ww, snag them. Otherwise you're better off paying a bit extra and getting someone you can plug in and forget about.Finless said:Based on? He been on a slide for some time
Does Finless pay for these suckups or do you do it free of charge? And since when does one game make a season...especially for a guy who plays everyday?He's still batting under 200, and the team is still absolutely awful.
Owning Cake the way I am in my inaugural season, not sure I need to make any moves. #### my most productive guy's been on the DL for the last 10 days. Not sure you cats knew what kind of fire I'd bring. This may deserve it's own thread.Both available.Finless said:
Batting well over three the last week. You got own3d. There's not sucking up here. Just someone who knows a good ownage when he sees one. I'm sure someone will be bumping your post in a couple months and I'm pretty sure it won't be you. Now move along, noob.
Tell me, what do you expect Lee to do this year? Should I simply project him for the last three year average of 29 homers and 107 rbi's?
I agree with this. I'm not buying on Lee unless the owner is selling incredibly cheap.
That's why we call it a "buy Low"
Ah, but the point of a "buy low" is when you expect that person to provide much better value later. No Lee owner is going to sell him dirt cheap, but he's not going to be worth acquiring at a price any more than that.I can go get lots of players that suck by buying them low.That's why we call it a "buy Low"
So after a decade of some of the most consistent numbers in baseball and a bad April he sucks? Talk bout being shortsighted. So you're saying what we saw out of Carlos in April is what we're going to get the rest of the year??? Based on what?Stick to the shark pool, hoss.Ah, but the point of a "buy low" is when you expect that person to provide much better value later. No Lee owner is going to sell him dirt cheap, but he's not going to be worth acquiring at a price any more than that.I can go get lots of players that suck by buying them low.That's why we call it a "buy Low"
LOL, no idea why you seem to have an attitude when people disagree with you, but I've got 15 years of fantasy baseball experience in every type of league that says I can add a little bit to this forum as well.He'll very likely improve from what he did in April. But I'd expect more of a .270.280 hitter with 15-20 HRs, and those are a dime a dozen in the OF.Said he's not someone I'd buy low, because he won't meet expectations if you're expecting a 30 HR, 100 RBI guy. His bat is slower based on what I've watched of him, and I've heard the hometown announcers on TV make the same comment several times now. His lineup will prevent him from being a big run producer, and his best days are behind him. He's been behind a TON of fastballs this year and he's not drawing walks, either. Anyone who owns him won't be selling him for real cheap, and that's the only way a trade for him can pay dividends. Otherwise, you're paying for his name and what he did before this year. 33 isn't necessarily old, but he wouldn't be the first to start showing signs of decline at that age.So after a decade of some of the most consistent numbers in baseball and a bad April he sucks? Talk bout being shortsighted. So you're saying what we saw out of Carlos in April is what we're going to get the rest of the year??? Based on what?Stick to the shark pool, hoss.Ah, but the point of a "buy low" is when you expect that person to provide much better value later. No Lee owner is going to sell him dirt cheap, but he's not going to be worth acquiring at a price any more than that.I can go get lots of players that suck by buying them low.That's why we call it a "buy Low"
Steelers4Life absolutely nailed this one. If Lee is sitting on the ww, you should probably grab him (unless you're in a tiny league or have very limited space). Otherwise, you should spend your ammo to acquire a different guy. You're not going to get the best return on your investment with this chump.But going with the logic of well he averaged certain numbers in his 20's means we should still expect those figures today? Ortiz averaged some great numbers. Should we buy low on him and expect Big Papi to revert to career norms as well?
I don't think Grady's a bad candidate for a rebound. Not expecting 30-30 numbers, but at 28, he's got plenty of career and upside left in him. He had a bit of a sore back earlier this year, and perhaps that's affected his power so far, but I don't imagine it'll turn out to be a permanent thing and he's still plenty young.I recently traded for him in one of my 20 team dynasty leagues in which my outfield has struggled so far, and took some abuse because some thought I stole him TOO cheaply.Gave up Adam LaRoche, Brandon Allen, Jenrry Mejia and Fernando MartinezGot Grady Sizemore, Chris Davis, and Yonder AlonsoI did it so I could promote Justin Smoak from my minors. Hated giving up Mejia the most of all of those guys but I've got plenty of good young arms, and I think LaRoche should continue to put up good numbers in the desert. However, given Sizmore's age and track record, he's well worth taking a chance on, especially in a dynasty league.
He's 33, but he just said a couple days ago that he's going to retire when his contract is up in a couple years. He knows he doesn't have it anymore.shadyridr said:
