Players who always got drafted too high for their numbers. (1 Viewer)

[coolnerd]

This thread is a :(

How is that?

Oh, I don't know. There's that meaningless back-and-forth banter about Aikman. Then there's posters naming players like KJ Carter (maybe drafted high one season with a season high of 464 rushing yards), Curtis Enis (a three year career) and Blair Thomas (two average seasons and basically out of the league). Also, Steve Smith has only been drafted highly the past two seasons, and still finished a respectable 8th and 16th amongst WRs, higher on a ppg basis with a few games missed. Edge being named, while he's finished top 10 for RBs 4 of the past 5 seasons and 6 of his 9 (his two down years coming while recovering from his ACL injury and in his first year in Zona). Barry Sanders? Yeah, I wouldn't want to take a RB who averaged 1,800 yards and 10 TD's over his 10 seasons early in fantasy drafts either. Although granted, he was often one of the top 2 or 3 picks and didn't always put up top 2 or 3 numbers. But really, who does?

I just think about half the people posting in this thread don't get it. Hence, the

Yeah, but it's great for figuring who you realize is clueless & to put on ignore.

One flaw in this discussion is that it has an underlying assumption that every fantasy owner drafts a player @ position 5 as a bet that said player will finish in position 5. Many of the players who fit into this category are players whose relative risk not to perform well is relatively low. In other words, Edge in Indy was drafted as the 4 th or 5th RB, because he was a considered a near lock to finish in the top 10, same with Sanders etc. Different owners weigh risk differently and end of the year rankings don't reflect that difference. Also, overtime the fantasy football market changes so that value (whether over or under) on a player moves constantly and sometimes greatly.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Shockey

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Barry Sanders, except for one multiple td year.

Professor, how could you say Barry Sanders who is one of the best Rb's of all time.

 

[Ranethe]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

If it weren't for the Irvin push offs Aikman's numbers would have been even worse than they were. He was a game manager, albeit a very good one, but nothing more than that.

You really hate the Cowboys it's pretty plain to see. This is more nonsense, like your Emmitt Smith arguments. Aikman was very certainly "more" than just a game manager. I'm not sure how old you are and whether you were able to watch him play. Numbers do not equal the sum of a player's talent.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

seems like Boldin always goes as a WR1 but always has a disappointed owner.

 

[TD Ryan]

Peyton Manning

Clinton Portis

Aaron Brooks

Steve McNair

Derrick Mason

Thomas Jones

DeAngelo Williams

Matt Jones

 

[3nOut]

Ricky Williams and Michael Vick.

Key word in the question was ALWAYS. Ricky had a couple of great seasons that warranted a high pick.The players that come to mind for me, even though some had good seasons, but not enough to be warranted where they were drafted:

McGahee

Chambers

Willie green

Barlow

Porter

Pittman

T. Henry

C. Brown

T. JOnes

and any Denver 'flavor of the year" RB (always ended up being to much of a risk for RBBC)

 

[Prof. Chaos]

Barry Sanders, except for one multiple td year.

Professor, how could you say Barry Sanders who is one of the best Rb's of all time.

I stand corrected. I was thinking of 93.94 when he would break off long runs,get tackled inside the five and be pulled for the goal line back. Memory is the 2nd thing to go.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Roy WilliamsLadanian Tomlinson

 

[Liquid Tension]

Peyton ManningClinton PortisAaron BrooksSteve McNairDerrick MasonThomas JonesDeAngelo WilliamsMatt Jones

How could Manning be a disappointment?...no way

 

[switz]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

If it weren't for the Irvin push offs Aikman's numbers would have been even worse than they were. He was a game manager, albeit a very good one, but nothing more than that.

You really hate the Cowboys it's pretty plain to see. This is more nonsense, like your Emmitt Smith arguments. Aikman was very certainly "more" than just a game manager. I'm not sure how old you are and whether you were able to watch him play. Numbers do not equal the sum of a player's talent.

No, it's not Cowboys hate, it's called reality. And I'm not the only one in this thread that has shared that view.

 

[TD Ryan]

How could Manning be a disappointment?...no way

he's a first rounder every year.he's the first QB taken every year.is he worth drafting in the first round?how often has he finished as the #1 fantasy QB?the bar is set extremely high for him. that's why he's on my list.

 

[Sea Bass]

Y. A. Tittle

Bronco Nagurski

 

[mbuehner]

You can't count handcuffs. They are drafted as insurance. You HOPE you dont need them.

 

[switz]

How could Manning be a disappointment?...no way

he's a first rounder every year.he's the first QB taken every year.is he worth drafting in the first round?how often has he finished as the #1 fantasy QB?the bar is set extremely high for him. that's why he's on my list.

Even if he finishes as the #2 fantasy QB he's worth the pick I can't think of another QB who consistently performs as such a high statistical level.Note: I also disagree with your Clinton Portis comment... he finished pretty high this past season, and most people weren't drafting him until mid second round.

 

[cstu]

I'm sure someone has the time to dig up old ADP's and fantasy stats and put them in a spreadsheet, right?

 

[TD Ryan]

How could Manning be a disappointment?...no way

he's a first rounder every year.he's the first QB taken every year.is he worth drafting in the first round?how often has he finished as the #1 fantasy QB?the bar is set extremely high for him. that's why he's on my list.

Even if he finishes as the #2 fantasy QB he's worth the pick I can't think of another QB who consistently performs as such a high statistical level.Note: I also disagree with your Clinton Portis comment... he finished pretty high this past season, and most people weren't drafting him until mid second round.

it's more about drafting a QB in the first round than "Peyton Manning".this isn't an easy thread to find players that really "qualify". Most mid to late rounders won't qualify because it's tough to bash a mid to late round pick.and guys who were drafted high once (ex. Barlow) but then fall off the radar are tough to include in a thread titled: "always drafted too high".Manning made the list because he's in a no-win situation. The QB who's drafted in the first round every year when QBs probably shouldn't be taken that early.Portis made the list because he's been a high draft pick (top 2 rounds) most years and disappointed his owners on more than one occasion.

 

[coolnerd]

I'm sure someone has the time to dig up old ADP's and fantasy stats and put them in a spreadsheet, right?

Why? So that everyone (including me) could be proven wrong by using facts instead of our pre-exiting notions.

 

[Liquid Tension]

How could Manning be a disappointment?...no way

he's a first rounder every year.he's the first QB taken every year.is he worth drafting in the first round?how often has he finished as the #1 fantasy QB?the bar is set extremely high for him. that's why he's on my list.

I won't hijack this thread but it has been discussed and proven that taking Manning in the 1st round has been a valuable pick almost every year. He has NEVER busted and has finished 3,1,3,1,1 the last 5 years. he is money. When you think about all the bust RB's that have been taken, his value increases more. The draft dominator even shows he should be taken in the 1st round.I now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

 

[Jason Wood]

How could Manning be a disappointment?...no way

he's a first rounder every year.he's the first QB taken every year.is he worth drafting in the first round?how often has he finished as the #1 fantasy QB?the bar is set extremely high for him. that's why he's on my list.

Depends on your scoring system. In leagues that reward 6 pts for passing TDs, he's been the top fantasy passer three of the last five years.

 

[gigantor]

Before last season it was Tom Brady. How quickly we forget.

 

[Sweet Love]

Corey Dillon during the Cincy days...most thought he would go for 10+ TDs to match his rushing #s, but he rarely did after his rookie year.

Also, during his first stint with Tampa in NON PPR, Dunn was drafted early often.

 

[gigantor]

Bettis

 

[trader jake]

The top kicker from the previous season always goes too early...and the top kicker never repeats as the top scorer the next season anyway.

The triplets of underachieving fantasy WR's:

Chris Chambers

Jerry Porter

Deion Branch

 

[FUBAR]

Note: I also disagree with your Clinton Portis comment... he finished pretty high this past season, and most people weren't drafting him until mid second round.

Portis made the list because he's been a high draft pick (top 2 rounds) most years and disappointed his owners on more than one occasion.

He's actually quite underrated. Portis - 6 seasons, ranked 4,4,5,6,11,36. The season he ranked 36 was only because he played in 8 games.

 

[heidbrink]

Someone mentioned Michael Bennet. Agree there. The experiments of turning speedsters into footballers just hasn't seem to have worked out as planned. Track stars skills do not seem to convert as well to football skills as say ... B-Ball. Maybe a star Rugby player could make some noise in the NFL???

Others mentioned Vick. Yep. Though in later years he seemed to actually become a bargain because so many owners had simply blackballed him. It's to early to toss Vince Young into this category (exciting scrabler/ff ??) but he certainly didn't live up to expectations last year (at least he didn't live up to what I thought he'd do).

I could maybe add to the list...

Julius Jones as a guy who always seemed to underwhelm (rookie flash of brilliance aside). I will be interested to see how his change in scenery to the Pacific Coast changes his performance. I am not optimistic, however.